–“You don’t have a right to rights. Pay full price, like everyone else.”– Eli Harman
–“The entrance fee to the land of Liberty is your contractual obligation to risk life, limb and property to obtain and defend it. Free riders have permission only – not Liberty. Only fee paying members have existential rights.”– Curt Doolittle (Punish the wicked.)
–“You don’t have a right to rights. Pay full price, like everyone else.”– Eli Harman
–“The entrance fee to the land of Liberty is your contractual obligation to risk life, limb and property to obtain and defend it. Free riders have permission only – not Liberty. Only fee paying members have existential rights.”– Curt Doolittle (Punish the wicked.)
The entrance fee to the land of Liberty is your contractual obligation to risk life, limb and property to obtain and defend it.
Free riders have permission only – not Liberty. Only fee paying members have existential rights.
(Punish the wicked.)
Source date (UTC): 2014-12-03 14:06:00 UTC
CHEAPER FOR THE STRONG TO GIVE PEOPLE PROPERTY RIGHTS
Property exists prior to codification in a constitution. So does promise, prior to the institution of contract. A constitution is merely an agreement for reciprocal insurance of the terms of property and contract.
It so happens that allocation of property rights determines the incentives possible, and the incentives determine the degree of market participation – how many hands make the work light – and therefore the cost of providing individuals with incentives.
It’s just cheaper for the strong to give everyone property rights – so long as none of the weak band together to extract from the strong under platonic justification via those self-same rules.
This is the same reason that Slavery is illogical as well as immoral: assuming the prior slaves respect property rights and do not form a government of extraction, then it is merely cheaper and easier to have one’s slaves as vendors and customers.
Source date (UTC): 2014-12-03 12:55:00 UTC
SYNONYMS:
The only moral society is one in which property, morality and law are synonyms.
(i) PROPERTY : that which we demonstrate.
(ii) MORALITY: that which we require.
(iii) LAW: that which we promise.
Source date (UTC): 2014-12-03 10:35:00 UTC
We Don’t Need To Discuss Property – it’s Settled Science.
1) Property that we consider ours, is that which we bear costs to obtain or bear costs if we lose.
2) Property that is necessary within a cooperative kinship group is determined by that which is necessary to prevent free-riding.
3) Property that we demonstrate to others that we consider ours, is determined by what one is willing to defend.
4) Property rights demonstrated by others are limited to the property that others are willing to defend on our behalf.
The question then, is not what is property, but how willing are we to defend the property that we demonstrate.
We don’t need to invent property – or a limit to it.
We need to adjudicate disputes over what we demonstrate to be property ourselves, among our cooperatives and kin, from those who we must defend it from, and those who we ask to help us in that defense.
Every other argument is merely an attempt to gain a discount through verbal deception.
(Punish The Wicked)
Source date (UTC): 2014-12-03 08:17:00 UTC
Anyone want to buy a Kiev nightclub with me? (Cheap)
One of the best? I can’t justify it because I can’t give it that much attention. Best management, best property available. Right in the center. $20-25k buy in. I don’t need to remind you of the various benefits. :).
I really want to do it but not alone. I’ll do 50k but not the rest. This would leave us with lots of working capital and runway.
I wouldn’t do it myself if it wasn’t a good idea.
Cheers.
Source date (UTC): 2014-12-03 05:17:00 UTC
—“Property is what one is willing to defend.”— William L. Benge
Source date (UTC): 2014-12-02 06:30:00 UTC
Priceless. On Locke.
Source date (UTC): 2014-12-02 03:44:00 UTC
(Very interesting to watch people’s ability to use propertarianism – the logic of cooperation – expand far beyond the promise of praxeology – the logic of action. Equally interesting: seeing Hoppe abandon German rationalism in his most recent work – and to at least acknowledge allodial property – originated in violence and aristocratic reciprocal insurance. Equally interesting that MI continues to have so much trouble with funding. So I think I was right: the rothbardians jumped the shark and we are in a new era of liberty. – Cheers)
Source date (UTC): 2014-11-30 08:24:00 UTC