Theme: Institution

  • THE MARKET DEMAND FOR SERVICES PROVIDED BY RELIGION 1. The market demand for per

    THE MARKET DEMAND FOR SERVICES PROVIDED BY RELIGION

    1. The market demand for personal mindfulness (Spiritualism) whether empathic-femining (theological), moral-masculine(rational), or analytic-masculine(scientific) exists, and all three demands exist for most of us. The question is, given how the various religions solved mindfulness (Stoicism-epicureanism, buddhism, hinduism, abrahamism) which produces agency (stoicism), which produces optimism (hinduism), which produces withdrawal from reality (buddhism) and which denies and escapes reality (abrahamism).

    2. Religions must provide interpersonal mindfulness by creating a standard dialog, set of signals, and manners that are costly to learn and practice, but that by practicing display to others you are worthy of honest cooperation on the same terms.

    3. Religions must also provide social mindfulness (limitation of fear and comfort in the ethical, and moral. These are moral rules that serve the group’s competitive strategy – and all reflect the environmental challenges of the age of transformation in which men invented religions.,

    4. Religions must also provide political mindfulness (limits on political action and on rulers actions). I won’t cover each of them here.

    5. Religions must also provide a group strategy – gypsy parasitism, jewish parasitism, muslim parasitism, predation and conquest, christian undermining of the truth, knowledge, reason, law, property, aristocracy by rallying the peasantry and women and slaves against all and being as expansionary as islam – to counter islam. Buddhist submission and obedience Hindu class duty and function in the ‘harmony’. Chinese hierarchical family (bureaucracy). Anglo aristocratic egalitarianism (entrepreneurship and corporation).

    So 1. personal mindfulness (peace of mind), 2. interpersonal, 3. social, 4. political, 5. strategic.

    All of these are served by training in stoicism and epicureanism(realism, naturalism, reciprocity, living within your means, surrounding yourself with family and friends, and insulation from competitive status signaling), training interpersonal reciprocity, social reciprocity, training in political reciprocity, and training in group strategic reciprocity.

    The fact that we train people in reading, writing, arithmetic, mathematics, and the sciences, and indoctrinate them into falsehoods of marxism (class undermining), feminism(male undermining), and postmodernism (group undermining), but DON”T train them in stoic mindfulness, epicurean happiness, basic money, household finance, and accounting, basic law of contract and reciprocity, the testimony, the grammars, logics, rhetoric, and produce holidays that celebrate our seasons and heroes, thinkers, and saints is just a choice.

    The only addiction christianity adds is the transformation of western paternalism of masculine aristocracy, to the feminine submission to a false god, the pretense of equality of all, and the one good thing: the feminine emulation of jesus in the extension of forgiveness instead of semitic hypersensitivity to insult and slight – we call this christian love. It’s just self virtue signaling in exchange for immunity from offense by petty people endemic among the desperate, poor and ignorant.

    The real reason people rely on abrahamic religion is to disintermediate themselves from others status signals so that they can preserve mindfulness and self image despite continuous rejection. The reason we want to live in the christian world is because we are not subject to continuous rejection but continuous tolerance and forgiveness (love).

    The program of the marxists, feminists, and postmodernists, is to UNDERMINE christian love from within. Undermine the faith. Undermine the ethics Generate envy and hatred between genders, classes, and identity groups, in order to sew discord that creates demand for an authoritarian state which can extract almost unlimited income from the population to resolve the conflicts that the government created.

    This is all you need to understand about (a) religion, (b) christianity in politics (c) how we can state christianity in legal terms, (d) how we can teach stoicism and epicureanism and history and truth rather than semitic lies, and (e) how we are undermined because christians will not fight the enemy.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-30 12:26:00 UTC

  • WHY DO ANGLO GOVERNMENTS LAST SO LONG? It’s just much easier to reform a contrac

    WHY DO ANGLO GOVERNMENTS LAST SO LONG?

    It’s just much easier to reform a contract (constitution) that is adjudicated by an independent judiciary, than it is to reform a dictatorship, oligarchy, bureaucracy, or theocracy that lacks an independent judiciary and constitutional means of decision making given a division of powers, and fundamental rights especially to property.

    Most of western history is the difficulty in maintaining our rule of law from attempts to usurp it by the aristocracy, the theocracy, the burghers, and now the underclass communists, devoted, and socialists.

    A constitution if well written is an algorithm for the operation of a polity under falsification, tested before judges who are not involved in the operations of whatever function is in conflict.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-30 12:23:00 UTC

  • TWO ANSWERS ON RELIGION —“You are clearly analyzing religion as some kind of i

    TWO ANSWERS ON RELIGION

    —“You are clearly analyzing religion as some kind of intentional civilization building thing rather than a set of existential beliefs that individuals possess in light of the full human ignorance of the origins and purpose of reality.”—John Marshall

    A) Yes I understand human demand for mindfulness. I simply observe that this particular means of mindfulness is catastrophically destructive, and that there are scientific and philosophical means of achieving the same ends, without the same side effects. So did the conquering christians – which is why they closed all the stoic schools, and killed or chased off the philosophers, and destroyed the arts letters and architecture of the ancient world – to prevent men from independence they would gain by stoic training, and epicurean lifestyles, rather than abrahamic mindfulness submission and slavery.

    B) You don’t think each and every institutional religion was designed to employ suggestion, empathy, and false promise as a means of coercing primitive illiterate ignorant petty people into a politically beneficial behavior?

    I mean, I’m pretty well read on the development of every religion and by and large there isn’t any difference between the development of a logic, a science, a philosophy, a work of literature, a work of mythology, and a theology. it’s all engineering the human experience by a combination of techniques.

    There is no difference between the script writer and director provoking an experience, than that of Saul of Tarsus trying merge the various Roman, Greek, Persian, Mesopotamian religions into a jewish rebel’s narrative, in order to replace the primary religious works of the Mediterranean (Homer and Achilles), with an anti-hero (Abraham and Jesus).

    The fact that we desire the provisions of science, history, literature, philosophy, and theology and that we have produced religions for different classes in every civilization except islam is rather obvious. it’s just that the underclasses are better governed by theological superstition, the middle by philosophical sophism, and the upper by exercise of power, is nothing more than evidence of the need for a system of achievement accessible to classes possessed of different degrees of agency. Escapism and supernaturalism; justification and sophism; empiricism and power.

    You need to feel you aren’t manipulated by those with greater agency – I understand.It’s just false.

    Religion largely provides sedation as a means of mindfulness, while buddhism, stoicism, and wisdom(science, history) incrementally provide mindfulness by providing one with agency – rather than sedation.

    Just because drugs feel good doesn’t mean that they are good for you. Just because theology makes you feel good doesn’t mean it is good for you. Just because lying feels good doesn’t mean it is good for you.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-30 12:22:00 UTC

  • WITCH TRIALS. WHY? AFAIK the increase in witch trials was an extension of the in

    WITCH TRIALS. WHY?

    AFAIK the increase in witch trials was an extension of the inquisition, then the reformation, as a means of creating examples by suppressing newly enabled social dissent under the decline of the influence of the church and the personalization of the religious experience by disintermediation from the priesthood. There isn’t really a consensus on it, but my rough understanding is that as wealth increased and local agency increased we saw the the protestant reformation put more control in the local hands at all levels – including religious. About 80% of prosecutions were of women, and most in central europe (germanic) countries. And women were uneducated and … uneducated women (as we see in daily videos) .. and as evidenced by asylum populations (mostly women), and current mental health statistics, were as disruptive in the past with psychosis as they are today – just like males -although we control males aggressively and we don’t control anti-social behavior in females. In other words I interpret it as a puritan reaction to the transfer of power of catholic inquisition to protestant hands, and the ‘fashion’ of exercising that power, until it was rather obvious that it was out of hand, and (a) judges would no longer accept testimony obtained under torture, (b) it was increasingly outlawed.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-30 12:21:00 UTC

  • THE MOST IMPORTANT LESSON FROM THE CHURCH EXPERIENCE The most important lesson I

    THE MOST IMPORTANT LESSON FROM THE CHURCH EXPERIENCE

    The most important lesson I’ve observed, and perhaps the most important, is that sitting still in church, and the social pressure of sitting still in church, no matter how hard it is, teaches us the meaning of ‘sacred’ which is ‘we have no rights of self fulfillment’.

    I think it is underrated, how much the respect we demonstrate for one another in religious ceremony translates to how we ALWAYS act in the commons – and I think the loss of this ‘sacredness’ and this training in the ‘submission’ by develops ‘agency’ over impulses such that we do not impose so many costs of self expression (hyper-consumption) on the commons and therefore the polity.

    You do know what group did this right? What one group undermined it? I do.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-30 12:19:00 UTC

  • THE ROLE OF CHURCHES IN THE PROPOSED CONSTITUTION —“I do have a question regar

    THE ROLE OF CHURCHES IN THE PROPOSED CONSTITUTION

    —“I do have a question regarding churches. Under P Law, would they be considered public or private property? And if considered public, would that limit what the preacher can and cannot say? Or would it being private, grant them some clemency when speaking on their faith?”—Stephen Thomas

    P law doesn’t say anything other than “don’t lie”.

    P-law says you have no rights in the commons other than to continuously walk along property-borders and common ways, while silent, and looking at your feet. That is the only necessary exchange we must grant one another given the impossibility of circumventing three dimensional reality. So teaching ‘sacredness’ is a matter of law under threat of prosecution, not membership in a community under threat of ostracization. So yes, we restore sacredness of the commons.

    The church’s past and present primary function is education of the psychological, moral, and political intuition – largely in an illiterate (and possibly intentionally illiterate) society. The academy’s primary function is education in the grammars of calculation: letters, numbers, reading, writing, the logics, mathematics, the physics, the law, the economics, and argument. What occurred in the 20th thanks to the second abrahamic attack on western civilization is the invasion of the academy with training the intuition rather than training reason, argument, and calculation. And we must either prevent this from happening, or require both institutions teach universal grammars, universal ethics, morality, and politics, but different means of providing mindfulness given the different constitutions of our minds.

    But, in a constitution written in P-law, that restores the balance of powers between the institutions, I have suggested that the religious institutions are restored to previous condition as a competitor to the military and the government (not the judiciary), and has dominion over matters of the family, and that we fund these like the schools (instead of the schools) whether scientific, rational, traditional, military, pagan(european historical), or christian – a description of the order we want to be long to.

    This allows people to choose the educational and social conditions they prefer, with the only constant relation being natural law and the grammars.

    It allows them to construct churches in the christian ethic of natural law; the extension of christian (familial) love to all as a means of both eliminating petting conflict, eliminating petty emotional and psychological coercion, and eliminating the demand to retaliate, and thereby producing the optimum social order with optimum reciprocal incentives, that assists in the formation of an economically and politically ( commercial) political order; the imitation of jesus in expression of that christian love; surrender of responsibility for fate to god or jesus, thereby limiting self criticism due to normal human frailty and error; and limiting the burden of ethical and moral decision making to dependence upon the accumulated evidence of religious history. If that is the case then they are not only sponsored and defended by the state but competing organizations on competing ethics are prohibited.

    So in this sense it is difficult to disambiguate the ownership of current libraries and churches as other than state-private partnerships. In fact, hard to describe any institutions as other than partnerships.

    So as long as a ‘church’ teaches compatibility with natural law, and teaches the grammars,

    My conflict and the one I just am leaving for markets to search out is that faith and truth are not the same things, and if they were we would not need faith. So christians must be taught the difference between an expression of faith and an expression of truth, and that we deliver undo the faithful and unto our gods, what is due them (the spiritual) and we delver unto the polity and the law what is due it.

    This has been the practice for all of our history. No other solution is possible while preserving both.

    Meanwhile those of us who think in archetypal masculine terms will focus our empathy on the pagan, and those who think in archetypal feminine terms will focus our empathy on the christian, and those of us who use reason and science rather than empty will focus on history, economics, and the law.

    And my hope (and suspicion) is that most people will do ALL OF THEM, and some people will do only ONE of them. And that will keep us unified despite our cognitive differences – without having to oppress one another. It is impossible to make people like me have faith – we are incapable of it. it is impossible to make people who need faith abandon it. But since we all share the natural law across that spectrum – or we are the enemy of not just our people, but all mankind, then this is an amenable solution for military unity, political unity, economic unity, and spiritual unity despite our differences.

    “MARKETS IN EVERYTHING.”

    (And yeah, that was freaking hard problem.)


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-30 12:19:00 UTC

  • RT @Outsideness: … Gate-keepers should generally assumed to be corrupt, and ge

    RT @Outsideness: … Gate-keepers should generally assumed to be corrupt, and getting more corrupt.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-28 10:52:30 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1188770508990550017

  • RT @Outsideness: When thinking of the things that have gone wrong with the scien

    RT @Outsideness: When thinking of the things that have gone wrong with the sciences (peer review for e.g.), academic journals merit special…


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-28 10:52:21 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1188770471124312064

  • Throughout history love evolved from mutual care, because of economic utility –

    Throughout history love evolved from mutual care, because of economic utility – it was only the 1300’s during the plague love entered literature, and only in the 1970’s, marriage became a matter exclusively of attraction and friendship. Romantic love is a luxury good.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-27 20:16:15 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1188549993210306560

    Reply addressees: @OfSalamis

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1188549514652737537


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    Unknown author

    @OfSalamis Now, sure, prostitution and polygamy are voluntary adult contracts but, they are not something we want our daughters to end up the victim of.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1188549514652737537


    IN REPLY TO:

    @curtdoolittle

    @OfSalamis Now, sure, prostitution and polygamy are voluntary adult contracts but, they are not something we want our daughters to end up the victim of.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1188549514652737537

  • So those are the reasons marriage evolved. It’s the nash equilibrium where every

    So those are the reasons marriage evolved. It’s the nash equilibrium where everyone has the best possible for all even if no one has the optimum possible. Humans are naturally serially monogamous. It’s farming, property, eugenics that made long term monogamous marriage useful


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-27 20:13:31 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1188549305247903747

    Reply addressees: @OfSalamis

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1188548985516113923


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    Unknown author

    @OfSalamis None of that really holds up given that in history 70% of women reproduced and 30% of men. So throughout history reproduction has been asymmetric.Marriage evolved to control conflcit, property and responsibility for offspring, thereby shielding the population from hazard of care.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1188548985516113923


    IN REPLY TO:

    @curtdoolittle

    @OfSalamis None of that really holds up given that in history 70% of women reproduced and 30% of men. So throughout history reproduction has been asymmetric.Marriage evolved to control conflcit, property and responsibility for offspring, thereby shielding the population from hazard of care.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1188548985516113923