Theme: Grammar

  • Are All Set-Arguments Deceptions?

    (thought) I’m getting the feeling that all set based argument is just lying. I mean we can TEACH by transferring properties via sets. But you know, you gotta criticize that nonsense once you turn the lightbulb on, oyu gotta look around the room a bit and make sure you see what you think you see. You do that by sequences. Not just ORDERED SETS, but supply demand CURVES with LIMITS.

  • (thought) I’m getting the feeling that all set based argument is just lying. I m

    (thought)

    I’m getting the feeling that all set based argument is just lying.

    I mean we can TEACH by transferring properties via sets. But you know, you gotta criticize that nonsense once you turn the lightbulb on, oyu gotta look around the room a bit and make sure you see what you think you see.

    You do that by sequences. Not just ORDERED SETS, but supply demand CURVES with LIMITS.


    Source date (UTC): 2016-10-02 05:23:00 UTC

  • Infinity, And The Fictional Justificationary Narratives Used In Mathematics

    infinite = **’unknown, because without context of correspondence we cannot determine limits’**, that’s all it means. Because that’s all it *can* mean and not argumentatively convert from mathematics to theology or fictional justification is perhaps a better term. The irony is that mathematicians seek precision in their statements and take pride in the precision of their language, but on this subject they do the opposite: obscure. There is no difference at all between making theological justificationary narratives, and making mathematically platonic justificationary narratives other than in theology and mathematics, theologians and mathematicians both seek to enforce existing dogma, while at the same time obscuring the fact that they have no idea what they’re talking about, and therefore resort to fictional narrative justification. “God gave us the ten commandments” is a fictional justificationary narrative obscuring the lack of causal understanding, and “evolutionary constraints produced natural laws of cooperation at scale” articulates the causal understanding. I can obey those ten commandments and cooperate at scale whether I use the fictional justificationary narrative, or the causal scientific narrative. So the operations I take are identical. What differs is the consequences of using a fictional justificationary narrative and a causally parsimonious narrative – just as what differs in our ability to make consequential deductions from allegorical justificationary narratives, and axiomatic causal properties differs. Mathematics is literally full of holdovers from the greek and Christian eras of mysticism as well as the modern era’s rationalism – and mathematicians have not reformed mathematics as science has been reformed. And so mathematics still contain’s is fictional justificationary narratives. This retention of fictional justificationary narratives (the theology of mathematical platonism), does not necessarily inhibit the practice of mathematics any more than obeying the ten commandments inhibits the art of cooperating at scale. What matters is the consequence of teaching mathematics platonically (theologically) and teaching it scientifically (existentially). Now, in testimonialism we account for the ethics of externality and we require warranty of truthfulness in public speech. Therefore it would be unethical and immoral (and possibly criminal or at least negligent) for mathematicians to continue to teach or publish or speak in public using theological language while at the same time making proof or truth claims – because one cannot warranty due diligence against externality caused by the false statements. So someday we hope we can reform mathematics so that it is taught scientifically not theologically, and as such by superior methods of teaching, we expand the use of mathematics to increasing numbers of people, and export less theology via fictional justificationary narrative into the public domain.

  • Infinity, And The Fictional Justificationary Narratives Used In Mathematics

    infinite = **’unknown, because without context of correspondence we cannot determine limits’**, that’s all it means. Because that’s all it *can* mean and not argumentatively convert from mathematics to theology or fictional justification is perhaps a better term. The irony is that mathematicians seek precision in their statements and take pride in the precision of their language, but on this subject they do the opposite: obscure. There is no difference at all between making theological justificationary narratives, and making mathematically platonic justificationary narratives other than in theology and mathematics, theologians and mathematicians both seek to enforce existing dogma, while at the same time obscuring the fact that they have no idea what they’re talking about, and therefore resort to fictional narrative justification. “God gave us the ten commandments” is a fictional justificationary narrative obscuring the lack of causal understanding, and “evolutionary constraints produced natural laws of cooperation at scale” articulates the causal understanding. I can obey those ten commandments and cooperate at scale whether I use the fictional justificationary narrative, or the causal scientific narrative. So the operations I take are identical. What differs is the consequences of using a fictional justificationary narrative and a causally parsimonious narrative – just as what differs in our ability to make consequential deductions from allegorical justificationary narratives, and axiomatic causal properties differs. Mathematics is literally full of holdovers from the greek and Christian eras of mysticism as well as the modern era’s rationalism – and mathematicians have not reformed mathematics as science has been reformed. And so mathematics still contain’s is fictional justificationary narratives. This retention of fictional justificationary narratives (the theology of mathematical platonism), does not necessarily inhibit the practice of mathematics any more than obeying the ten commandments inhibits the art of cooperating at scale. What matters is the consequence of teaching mathematics platonically (theologically) and teaching it scientifically (existentially). Now, in testimonialism we account for the ethics of externality and we require warranty of truthfulness in public speech. Therefore it would be unethical and immoral (and possibly criminal or at least negligent) for mathematicians to continue to teach or publish or speak in public using theological language while at the same time making proof or truth claims – because one cannot warranty due diligence against externality caused by the false statements. So someday we hope we can reform mathematics so that it is taught scientifically not theologically, and as such by superior methods of teaching, we expand the use of mathematics to increasing numbers of people, and export less theology via fictional justificationary narrative into the public domain.

  • Propertarianism Gives Aspies A Language With Which To Discourse With Normals.

    [W]orking with the intense-world model of autism, what we ‘aspies’ experience is a lot of localized (intense) but un-integrated phenomenon, and then we try to explain these intense phenomenon to others. Conversely, normals tend to explain the (diluted) single aggregate experience without having visibility into the (intense) localized phenomenon. It’s much easier for them to communicate the RESULTING experience that we DON”T have, than it is for us to communicate the SET of experiences we DO have. Unfortunately for them and fortunately for us, and therefore fortunately for all of us, just as we cannot inspect how we move our limbs – they just move, normals cannot inspect how they obtain those aggregates. We can inspect how we obtain those aggregates at the cost of losing the ability to communicate in aggregates. Or put differently, we speak in much higher information density with higher causal relation. They speak in lower information density with higher experiential description. One of the things I feel most proud of is giving us (intense world thinkers) a language that lets us communicate WITHOUT Experiential loading, in a language that while wordy is comprehensible both to us and to normals. Curt Doolittle The Propertarian Institute Kiev, Ukraine.

  • Propertarianism Gives Aspies A Language With Which To Discourse With Normals.

    [W]orking with the intense-world model of autism, what we ‘aspies’ experience is a lot of localized (intense) but un-integrated phenomenon, and then we try to explain these intense phenomenon to others. Conversely, normals tend to explain the (diluted) single aggregate experience without having visibility into the (intense) localized phenomenon. It’s much easier for them to communicate the RESULTING experience that we DON”T have, than it is for us to communicate the SET of experiences we DO have. Unfortunately for them and fortunately for us, and therefore fortunately for all of us, just as we cannot inspect how we move our limbs – they just move, normals cannot inspect how they obtain those aggregates. We can inspect how we obtain those aggregates at the cost of losing the ability to communicate in aggregates. Or put differently, we speak in much higher information density with higher causal relation. They speak in lower information density with higher experiential description. One of the things I feel most proud of is giving us (intense world thinkers) a language that lets us communicate WITHOUT Experiential loading, in a language that while wordy is comprehensible both to us and to normals. Curt Doolittle The Propertarian Institute Kiev, Ukraine.

  • EQUATION / LAW, PROOF / ALGORITHM, JUSTIFICATION / THEORY It’s interesting. A PR

    EQUATION / LAW, PROOF / ALGORITHM, JUSTIFICATION / THEORY

    It’s interesting.

    A PROOF(deduction) and an ALGORITHM(construction) are approximately equal processes, with the algorithm greater in informational content.

    And that an EQUATION(description) and a THEORETICAL-LAW(description) are approximately equal processes.

    Everything that can be described in mathematical language can be described in ordinary language. Everything that can be described in ordinary language cannot be described in mathematical language.

    Everything that can be described in justificationary language can be described in theoretical language with greater exclusion. Everything that can be explained in theoretical language cannot be explained in justificationary language.

    Everything that can be described in operational language can be described in allegorical language. Everything that can be described in allegorical language cannot be described in operational language.

    All of this means something very profound that I am still trying to put into words.

    (I am also trying to narrow in on the cause of our natural justificationism, and I am getting very close now. Taleb inspired me to try to answer what he intuits but can’t explain.)


    Source date (UTC): 2016-09-29 07:30:00 UTC

  • analogy is the only way to transfer properties by symbols. But operate#ii all de

    analogy is the only way to transfer properties by symbols. But operate#ii all descriptions are least false


    Source date (UTC): 2016-09-28 08:45:23 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/781052173186633728

    Reply addressees: @Aristokles11235 @NotEvenWrongRTs

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/780890917444001792


    IN REPLY TO:

    @Aristokles11235

    @curtdoolittle @NotEvenWrongRTs
    Anology seems to be the way the human mind is structered to transfer information from one domain to another.

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/780890917444001792

  • two step process. 1-Xfer meaning. 2-remove falsehood. Ergo: free assoc, hypoth.,

    two step process. 1-Xfer meaning. 2-remove falsehood. Ergo: free assoc, hypoth., theory, law.


    Source date (UTC): 2016-09-28 08:08:57 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/781043003129532417

    Reply addressees: @Aristokles11235 @NotEvenWrongRTs

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/780890917444001792


    IN REPLY TO:

    @Aristokles11235

    @curtdoolittle @NotEvenWrongRTs
    Anology seems to be the way the human mind is structered to transfer information from one domain to another.

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/780890917444001792

  • there exist no existentially possible infinities, and no sizes. These are word g

    there exist no existentially possible infinities, and no sizes. These are word games.


    Source date (UTC): 2016-09-25 12:14:17 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/780017577510731776

    Reply addressees: @Outsideness @NickLand7 @ReactionaryTree @Pale_Primate

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/779498637135007744


    IN REPLY TO:

    @Outsideness

    @NickLand7 @ReactionaryTree @Pale_Primate @curtdoolittle (The attack on Cantor is ridiculous IMHO.)

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/779498637135007744