Theme: Decidability

  • One can seek decidabiity in the laws of the universe or one can anthropomorphize

    One can seek decidabiity in the laws of the universe or one can anthropomorphize those laws into divinities. The convenience of a divinity is that it is most comprehensible to humans by requiring the least knowledge – and it can diverge from the laws of the universe to suit the interests of the prophets at the expense of others.
    East asia was and in many ways remains comparatively atheist – and they consistently ridicule us for our ‘silly superstitions’.
    To say religion is necessary for indoctrination into a system of weights and measure such that there is relative uniformity sufficient to suppress potential conflict (ethical and moral diversity) is true just as money and accounting are necessary for the formation of large scale markets, and mathematics is necessary for engineering scale architecture.
    Man evolved cooperation, division of labor, reciprocity and altruistic punishment in the absencse of any superstition, while preserving selfishness, cheating, parasitism, and predation. The benefit of doing so is the adaptive range of man to either cooperate or survive stresses is preserved in the genome.
    We do not need religion for morality because morality is always and everywhere merely sovereignty and reciprocity – non aggression. However, the conditions necessary to survive scarcity vs the degree of sovereignty and reciprocity necessary to survive by cooperation to defeat that scarcity, cause us to incrementally increase the precision of morality becuase morality is simply advantagous in cooperative velocity and therefore productivity and therefore competitive survial against both nature and man.
    We need RITUAL INDOCTRINATION (of which recitation of myths during feast festival oath and burial are the cheapest form) to produce the protocol of reciprocal cooperation in the context of our environment using our group evolutionary strategy. This indoctrination provides mindfulness (the suppression of neuroticism) as our relative insurance by the group we depend upon for survival produces alienation given our relative irrelevance as the scale of cooperation and trade increases.
    Sorry for the theists, but as Augustine Aquinas Smith Hume Blackstone Darwin Menger and the rest of the economists explained, ‘natural law’ is observable, and that law is just sovereignty and reciprocity limiting us to voluntary cooperation in all possible contexts – contexts we call markets, and markets for association, cooperation, production, reproduction, commons, polities, and war.

    Cheers
    Curt Doolittle
    The Natural Law Institute
    The Science of Cooperation

    Reply addressees: @Uncommonsince76 @SethDillon


    Source date (UTC): 2023-08-07 12:26:54 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1688527132765343745

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  • Interesting. No. Reducibility to a formula. The scope of computational redicibil

    Interesting. No. Reducibility to a formula. The scope of computational redicibility (an algorithm or program) is much greater than the scope of mathematical reducibility (an equation).
    I suppose I should do a video. Because, its not that complicated. And it seems to cause some…


    Source date (UTC): 2023-07-28 20:18:42 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1685021985070292992

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  • Microsoft X box context. and different context, and not conflatable

    Microsoft X box context. http://X.com and http://x.app different context, and not conflatable.


    Source date (UTC): 2023-07-24 20:28:29 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1683574897451171840

    Reply addressees: @IntuitMachine

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1683548703741681664

  • I hope working with GPT4 demonstrates that what’s necessary is sufficient disamb

    I hope working with GPT4 demonstrates that what’s necessary is sufficient disambiguation of the criteria necessary for decidability such that an AI can render a decision by satisfying or failing to satisfy the criteria. In other words if an AI can do it we can be certain that a court can do it. Even such when the AI can’t do it what it provides us with is a set of criteria that state why it can’t decide. IMO this will make courtrooms more honest as well.

    Reply addressees: @ToddNQuick1 @PepeFisher


    Source date (UTC): 2023-07-18 18:01:54 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1681363681202798603

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  • GPT4 NATURAL LAW TESTS (FUN) (this thing is amazing – at least until it runs out

    GPT4 NATURAL LAW TESTS (FUN)
    (this thing is amazing – at least until it runs out of context memory)

    CurtD
    Did we discuss the criteria for truth earlier?

    ChatGPT
    Yes, we did discuss the criteria for truth in our earlier conversation. As we defined it, truth is a performative action, which can be testified to across several dimensions. These dimensions include:

    Realism: The statement or claim aligns with the observable and measurable reality.

    Categorical Identity (Unambiguity): The statement or claim is clear, precise, and unambiguous.

    Internal Consistency (Logic): The statement or claim is logically consistent and does not contradict itself.

    Operational Possibility (Constructability): The statement or claim can be operationalized or constructed in reality.

    External Correspondence (Empirical Correspondence): The statement or claim corresponds with empirical evidence or observations.

    Rational Choice (Bounded Rational Choice): The statement or claim aligns with rational choice theory, considering the limits of human rationality.

    Reciprocity (Reciprocally Bounded Rational Choice): The statement or claim aligns with the principle of reciprocity, considering the limits of human rationality.

    Full Accounting: The statement or claim accounts for all relevant factors and does not omit important information.

    Restitutability: The statement or claim allows for restitution or correction if proven false.

    These criteria provide a comprehensive framework for evaluating the truthfulness of a statement or claim. They emphasize the importance of evidence, logic, clarity, and accountability in the pursuit of truth.

    CurtD
    So can I claim that i saw a unicorn and that I”m speaking truthfully?

    ChatGPT
    Based on the criteria for truth we discussed earlier, your claim of seeing a unicorn would be evaluated across several dimensions:

    Realism: Unicorns, as traditionally depicted (horse-like creatures with a single horn), are not known to exist in observable and measurable reality. This would challenge the realism of your claim.

    Categorical Identity (Unambiguity): The term “unicorn” is clear and unambiguous, so this criterion is met.

    Internal Consistency (Logic): There’s no inherent logical contradiction in claiming to have seen something, so this criterion is met.

    Operational Possibility (Constructability): Seeing a creature is an operationally possible action, so this criterion is met.

    External Correspondence (Empirical Correspondence): Given that unicorns are not empirically observed or documented in our world, this criterion is not met.

    Rational Choice (Bounded Rational Choice): Claiming to see a unicorn doesn’t necessarily align with rational choice theory, as it doesn’t provide a clear benefit or advantage given the lack of empirical evidence for unicorns’ existence.

    Reciprocity (Reciprocally Bounded Rational Choice): This criterion is more applicable to interactions between individuals, so it may not be directly relevant to your claim.

    Full Accounting: Unless you provide more information about the circumstances of your sighting (e.g., where and when it happened, what the unicorn looked like, etc.), this criterion may not be fully met.

    Restitutability: If your claim is proven false, there would need to be a way to correct the misinformation or make restitution.

    So, based on these criteria, your claim of seeing a unicorn would likely be challenged due to the lack of realism and empirical correspondence, and possibly other factors depending on the specifics of your claim.


    Source date (UTC): 2023-07-18 17:58:24 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1681362799857893385

  • No I Don’t Underestimate Other Civs. And if I must explain limits-based reasonin

    No I Don’t Underestimate Other Civs.
    And if I must explain limits-based reasoning, or its application to decidability (exhaustive limits) or first principles (exhaustive limits), and how doing so prevents such errors of relativism that you and others make with frequency, then I… https://twitter.com/curtdoolittle/status/1680952552655843328


    Source date (UTC): 2023-07-17 15:07:38 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1680957439569477632

  • You are mistaken. Though it is not uncommon that those unfamiliar with the scien

    You are mistaken. Though it is not uncommon that those unfamiliar with the scientific method haven’t learned yet.
    Given the hierarchy of certainty:
    unknown > incomprehensible > undecidable > possibly true > false.
    (a) all premises are contingent
    (b) so justificationism is false
    (c) so all logic is falsificationary
    (d) so all truth claims must satisfy survival from adversarial competition, consisting of tests of: realism, categorical identity, internal consistency, operational possibility, external correspondence, rational choice, reciprocal rational choice (ethical), and fully accounted, within stated limits, and within the limits of restitutabilty. Because one cannot make a truth claim without satisfying those criteria.

    In other words:
    A mathematical proof tells us that something is possible.
    An argumentative proof tells us only that all alternatives are eliminated.
    A testimonial truth tells us only that something is testifiable given the knowledge available.
    All other truth claims ARE LIES.

    And yes, as far as I know, I understand this as well or better than anyone living or dead. And almost certainly anyone at all. 😉

    Reply addressees: @RocMurdoch @AdvInteritus @KUHoopes @W9746024628651 @Logos_Elect @Lord__Sousa


    Source date (UTC): 2023-07-16 03:33:00 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1680420238968463360

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  • Where is there no proof? Do you understand the term proof? It means ‘falsified a

    Where is there no proof? Do you understand the term proof? It means ‘falsified alternative explanations’. This is because all logic is falsificationary. Though you probably don’t understand that because you have been taught to lie and obey lies. We have falsified every supernatural claim. And at present we know that there is no ‘space’ in reality for the transmission of information that we cannot ‘see’. But again, you lack the knowledge, and the habit of truth before face, because you’ve been taught to lie and live in a narrative of lies, so you cannot know these things.

    Reply addressees: @dawahadvocate92 @Lord__Sousa @sneako


    Source date (UTC): 2023-07-14 15:54:27 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1679882054622740483

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  • Confuses authority with decidability. But this is one of those subtleties that w

    Confuses authority with decidability. But this is one of those subtleties that we often fuss over.


    Source date (UTC): 2023-07-13 18:43:48 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1679562287621853202

    Reply addressees: @TheAutistocrat

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1679558800318013457

  • Computation = a sequence of operations to bring about a desired end. In other wo

    Computation = a sequence of operations to bring about a desired end.
    In other words, if we know all the first principles (we do) then we can create a constructive logic (computational, ‘real’) not a descriptive logic (mathematical, ‘ideal’).
    So yes, it means knowledge is relatively complete other than the ability to invent new permutations with that knowledge.
    So yes, it’s the end MODEL of human thought.

    Reply addressees: @Bayonne59552234


    Source date (UTC): 2023-07-07 15:37:00 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1677340949519777792

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