Theme: Decidability

  • What’s The Difference? 1) Differences

    a) Competition: Without competition (comparison, differences) we have no means of distinction and without distinction we cannot make a choice. Forms of competition: b) Constant Relations: Referrers, Properties, relations, and values are determined by marginally indifferent, comparable, or commensurable Constant Relations vs Inconstant Relations between states. |Comparable|: Identical > Indifferent(in context/limits) > Marginally Indifferent > comparable > commensurable(via intermediary measure) > incommensurable (different) 2) DECIDABILITY DECIDABLE: a) In the REVERSE: a question (statement) is DECIDABLE if an algorithm (set of operations) exists within the limits of the system (rules, axioms, theories) that can produce a decision (choice). In other words, if the sufficient information for the decision is present (ie: is decidable) within the “system”(ie: grammar). b) In the OBVERSE: Instead, we should determine if there is a means of choosing without the need for additional information supplied from outside the system (ie: not discretionary). Or in simple terms, if DISCRETION is necessary the question is undecidable, and if discretion is unnecessary, a proposition is decidable. This separates reason (or calculation in the wider sense) from computation (algorithm). Given these Dimensions: a) Distinguishability (indistinguishable, distinguishably, meaningful(categorical), identifiable(memorable). b) Possibility (unimaginable, imaginable, rational, empirical, operational, unavoidable ) c) Actionability (inactionable,contingently actionable, actionable) d) Population (Self, Others, All, Universal) Yields: a) Indistinguishable(perception) > Distinguishable(cognition) > Memorable(categorical-referrable) > Possible(material) > Actionable(physical) > Choosable(for use) > Preferable(Personal) > Good(interpersonal) > Decidable(political) > True(most parsimonious descriptive name possible)(universal) > Analytic > Tautological. 3) DEMAND FOR DECIDABILITY Demand for Truth (Decidability): a) True enough to imagine a conceptual relationship (mental) b) True enough for me to feel good about myself (psychological) c) True enough for me to take actions that produce positive results (actionable) d) True enough for me to not cause others to react negatively to me. (Moral) e) True enough to resolve a conflict without subjective opinion among my fellow people with similar values. (Normative or legislative) f) True enough to resolve a conflict without subjective opinion across different peoples with different values. (Natural Law) g) True regardless of all opinions or perspectives. (True (Proper)) h) True for the purposes of internal consistency. (Analytic) h) Tautologically true: in that the two referrers consist of sets (networks) of marginally indifferent in properties in the given context (limits). 4) TRUTH: INFORMATION SUFFICIENT FOR DECIDABILITY IN CONTEXT |TESTIMONY|: IMPULSE > HONESTY > TRUTHFULNESS(Contingent) > TRUTH (Idea) > TRUE (Analytic) > TAUTOLOGY HONESTY: that testimony (description) you give with full knowledge that knowledge is incomplete, your language is insufficient, but you have not performed due diligence in the elimination of error and bias, but which you warranty is free of deceit; within the scope of precision limited to the question you wish to answer; and the promise that another possess of the same knowledge (information), performing the same due diligence, having the same experiences, would provide the same testimony. TRUTHFULNESS (TRUE): that testimony (description) you give if your knowledge (information) is incomplete, your language is insufficient, you have performed due diligence in the elimination of error, imaginary content, wishful thinking, bias, and deceit; within the scope of precision limited to the question you wish to answer; and which you warranty to be so; and the promise that another possessed of the knowledge, performing the same due diligence, having the same experiences, would provide the same testimony. IDEAL TRUTH: That testimony (description) you would give, if your knowledge (information) was complete, your language was sufficient, stated without error, cleansed of bias, and absent deceit, within the scope of precision limited to the context of the question you wish to answer; and the promise that another possessed of the same knowledge (information), performing the same due diligence, having the same experiences, would provide the same testimony. ANALYTIC TRUTH: Internally consistent, independent of external correspondence. In the construction of proofs, open to substitution and independent of context, we produce tests of internal consistency (generally speaking, the preservation of ratios). Or more simply, the preservation of constant relations. TAUTOLOGICAL TRUTH: Marginally indifferent description expressing constant relations between referrers. 4) POSSIBILITY 5) ACTIONABILITY 6) CONTINGENCY (DEPENDENCY) Free-Association( Guess(Uncritical)) > Hypothesis(Critical) > Premise(Assumption)) > Axiom(Declaration) > Identity(tautology) > Differences(consistent and inconsistent relations) ? 7) JUSTIFICATION (MATH, LAW, SCRIPTURE, LITERATURE – UN-INTERROGATABLE.) Thinking > Imagining > Reasoning(external competition) > Argument (Informal Logics)(argumentative competition) > Justification(Formal Logics)(internal competition) > Math(Positional Logics) > category > identity > differences(consistent and inconsistent relations)? 8) JUSTIFICATIONARY OPERATIONS Free Association > Guess > Abduction > Induction > Deduction > Identity(tautology) > differences(consistent and inconsistent relations)? Decidability under Justification: Uses of Justification: 9) LIMITS OF JUSTIFICATION Dependency and Deducibility: Evidence, Argument: No accumulation of justifications (confirmations) can a Closure in any dimension is impossible without appeal to the consequent dimension. 10) REPLACEMENT OF JUSTIFICATION WITH PROSECUTION (FALSIFICATION) 11) PROSECUTORIAL OPERATIONS (WARRANTIES OF DUE DILIGENCE)ATION – INTERROGATABLE) Free association > idea(survives) > hypothesis(survives) > theory(survives) > law(survives) > Identity(tautology)(survives) > differences(consistent and inconsistent relations)(evolves) > [Loop]. 12) PROSECUTORIAL OPERATIONS (WARRANTIES OF DUE DILIGENCE) Falsification(Survival) by Measurement (cardinal, ordinal, decidable)) Dimensions of survival. a) Categorical Consistency (identity) (competition between properties, relations and values and some reference consisting of properties relations and values) b) Internal consistency (logical) c) Observable Consistency (empirical) d) Existential Consistency (operational) e) Rational Consistency (praxeological (rational choice)) f) Moral Consistency (reciprocal) g) Scope Consistency (limits and full accounting) h) Coherence (dimensional consistency). Decidability under Prosecution: ||Incomprehensible > Comprehensible(Decidable) > Possible(Decidable) > Contingent(True, Decidable) > False (Decidable) ……………………….. FALSE……..TRUE(CONTINGENT)……UNDECIDABLE ———————————————————————- FALSE ……………..|..FALSE…….FALSE………………………..UNDECIDABLE TRUE……………….|..FALSE…….TRUE………………………….UNDECIDABLE UNDECIDABLE….|..FALSE…….TRUE………………………….UNDECIDABLE Uses for Prosecution: TABLE OF JUSTIFICATION VS FALSIFICATION JUSTIFICATION (CONSTRUCTION) (“PHILOSOPHY”) Think…Imagine..Reason………InformalLogic…FormalLogic…Identity…Diff F-A ….Statmt….Statement…..Premise…………Axiom………….Identity…Diff. F-A…..Guess…..Abduction…..Induction……….Deduction……Identity…Diff. *F-A = Free Association —vs.— PROSECUTION (SURVIVAL FROM FALSIFICATION) (SCIENCE) F-A……Idea……..Hypoth………Theory……………Law…………..Identity……Diff. F-A……Falsify…..Falsify……….Falsify…………….Falsify………Parsimony…Diff. ….Internal……. ..Internal………External………….Market………Survival…. ‘True’. *True in science – true within scope. RATIONAL Productive…..Fully Informed…… Voluntary…..Warrantied…. Contained. MORAL(RECIPROCAL) Productive ….. Fully Informed …. Voluntary …. Warrantied… Contained … Reciprocal. *Contained = Free from imposition of costs by externality. TESTIMONY A warranty of due diligence in the test of consistency of the categorical, internal, external, existential, reasonable(action), reciprocal (moral), limits, full accounting, and of coherence. We often use the test of consistent(internal), correspondent(External), and coherent (commensurable between dimensions). And we either assume or skip limited and fully accounted, because those are most often supplied by context – however, context fails at non-trivial causal density (economics in particular), but our vulnerability to cherry picking appears endemic, such that without specific demands for limits and full accounting, we are easily suggestible (vulnerable to fraud). DEMAND FOR WARRANTY OF DUE DILIGENCE Mathematics Mathematics constant relations due to composition of all referrers using the single dimension of position (mathematics consists of the constant relation of position, due to the use of what we call ‘Numbers’ but which consist of positional names.) By use of positional names, all relations are reduced to positions in n dimensions. Thus enforcing constant relations. Logics ( Algorithms Empiricism Science [F]alsehood Techniques. 1) Ignorance (of information) 2) Error (in reasoning) 3) Overconfidence 4) Bias, and Wishful thinking 5) Loading, Framing, Suggestion, Obscurantism, 6) Fiction, Inflation, Conflation 7) Fictionalism (idealism, pseudoscience, supernaturalism, (primary means of overloading) 8) Deceit. (full fiction) 9) (Conspiracy – Scale 2) 10) (Propagandism – Scale 3) 11) (Institutionalization – Scale 4) If you cannot answer these questions or do not understand them you cannot know if you speak the truth, or if you are polluting the commons with fantasy, bias, error, or deception. EVIL < IMMORAL < UNETHICAL < |AMORAL| > ETHICAL > MORAL > GOOD. MORAL (USAGE) The term “Moral” can be used in a specific sense or a general sense. Either as behavior that imposes costs anonymously and indirectly, or as a general term to refer to all moral, ethical, and criminal behavior. Specific: 0) In the series criminal, ethical, and moral, criminal refers to overt crimes, ethical to crimes of interpersonal informational asymmetry (crimes against a person you deal with), and moral to indirect crimes of informational asymmetry (crimes against the social order). General: 1) Objective (decidable) morality: non imposition / reciprocity (Productive, fully informed, warrantied, voluntary transfer, free of imposition of costs against demonstrated investments by externality.) 2) Normative morality: that portfolio of norms that in the aggregate produce a group evolutionary strategy, and therefore immoral and moral actions may be judged objectively or normatively. 3) Subjective moral intuitions: that moral intuition we possess because of the combination of genetics, environment and training, and our attempt to survive genetic , social, and economic competition. These may be judged normatively and objectively. 4) Fictional Morality: those wishful arguments we make.. etc. These may be judged subjectively, normatively, and objectively. CLOSING The question is, how can we speak in a manner that limits the semantics, grammar, and syntax to constant relations that are invulnerable to, resistant to, or which expose, the various falsehoods that skew, eliminate, or replace, existing constant relations?
  • WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE? 1) DIFFERENCES a) Competition: Without competition (compa

    WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE?

    1) DIFFERENCES

    a) Competition: Without competition (comparison, differences) we have no means of distinction and without distinction we cannot make a choice.

    Forms of competition:

    b) Constant Relations: Referrers, Properties, relations, and values are determined by marginally indifferent, comparable, or commensurable Constant Relations vs Inconstant Relations between states.

    |Comparable|: Identical > Indifferent(in context/limits) > Marginally Indifferent > comparable > commensurable(via intermediary measure) > incommensurable (different)

    2) DECIDABILITY

    DECIDABLE:

    a) In the REVERSE: a question (statement) is DECIDABLE if an algorithm (set of operations) exists within the limits of the system (rules, axioms, theories) that can produce a decision (choice). In other words, if the sufficient information for the decision is present (ie: is decidable) within the “system”(ie: grammar).

    b) In the OBVERSE: Instead, we should determine if there is a means of choosing without the need for additional information supplied from outside the system (ie: not discretionary).

    Or in simple terms, if DISCRETION is necessary the question is undecidable, and if discretion is unnecessary, a proposition is decidable. This separates reason (or calculation in the wider sense) from computation (algorithm).

    Given these Dimensions:

    a) Distinguishability (indistinguishable, distinguishably, meaningful(categorical), identifiable(memorable).

    b) Possibility (unimaginable, imaginable, rational, empirical, operational, unavoidable )

    c) Actionability (inactionable,contingently actionable, actionable)

    d) Population (Self, Others, All, Universal)

    Yields:

    a) Indistinguishable(perception) > Distinguishable(cognition) > Memorable(categorical-referrable) > Possible(material) > Actionable(physical) > Choosable(for use) > Preferable(Personal) > Good(interpersonal) > Decidable(political) > True(most parsimonious descriptive name possible)(universal) > Analytic > Tautological.

    3) DEMAND FOR DECIDABILITY

    Demand for Truth (Decidability):

    a) True enough to imagine a conceptual relationship (mental)

    b) True enough for me to feel good about myself (psychological)

    c) True enough for me to take actions that produce positive results (actionable)

    d) True enough for me to not cause others to react negatively to me. (Moral)

    e) True enough to resolve a conflict without subjective opinion among my fellow people with similar values. (Normative or legislative)

    f) True enough to resolve a conflict without subjective opinion across different peoples with different values. (Natural Law)

    g) True regardless of all opinions or perspectives. (True (Proper))

    h) True for the purposes of internal consistency. (Analytic)

    h) Tautologically true: in that the two referrers consist of sets (networks) of marginally indifferent in properties in the given context (limits).

    4) TRUTH: INFORMATION SUFFICIENT FOR DECIDABILITY IN CONTEXT

    |TESTIMONY|: IMPULSE > HONESTY > TRUTHFULNESS(Contingent) > TRUTH (Idea) > TRUE (Analytic) > TAUTOLOGY

    HONESTY: that testimony (description) you give with full knowledge that knowledge is incomplete, your language is insufficient, but you have not performed due diligence in the elimination of error and bias, but which you warranty is free of deceit; within the scope of precision limited to the question you wish to answer; and the promise that another possess of the same knowledge (information), performing the same due diligence, having the same experiences, would provide the same testimony.

    TRUTHFULNESS (TRUE): that testimony (description) you give if your knowledge (information) is incomplete, your language is insufficient, you have performed due diligence in the elimination of error, imaginary content, wishful thinking, bias, and deceit; within the scope of precision limited to the question you wish to answer; and which you warranty to be so; and the promise that another possessed of the knowledge, performing the same due diligence, having the same experiences, would provide the same testimony.

    IDEAL TRUTH: That testimony (description) you would give, if your knowledge (information) was complete, your language was sufficient, stated without error, cleansed of bias, and absent deceit, within the scope of precision limited to the context of the question you wish to answer; and the promise that another possessed of the same knowledge (information), performing the same due diligence, having the same experiences, would provide the same testimony.

    ANALYTIC TRUTH: Internally consistent, independent of external correspondence. In the construction of proofs, open to substitution and independent of context, we produce tests of internal consistency (generally speaking, the preservation of ratios). Or more simply, the preservation of constant relations.

    TAUTOLOGICAL TRUTH: Marginally indifferent description expressing constant relations between referrers.

    4) POSSIBILITY

    5) ACTIONABILITY

    6) CONTINGENCY (DEPENDENCY)

    Free-Association( Guess(Uncritical)) > Hypothesis(Critical) > Premise(Assumption)) > Axiom(Declaration) > Identity(tautology) > Differences(consistent and inconsistent relations) ?

    7) JUSTIFICATION (MATH, LAW, SCRIPTURE, LITERATURE – UN-INTERROGATABLE.)

    Thinking > Imagining > Reasoning(external competition) > Argument (Informal Logics)(argumentative competition) > Justification(Formal Logics)(internal competition) > Math(Positional Logics) > category > identity > differences(consistent and inconsistent relations)?

    8) JUSTIFICATIONARY OPERATIONS

    Free Association > Guess > Abduction > Induction > Deduction > Identity(tautology) > differences(consistent and inconsistent relations)?

    Decidability under Justification:

    Uses of Justification:

    9) LIMITS OF JUSTIFICATION

    Dependency and Deducibility:

    Evidence, Argument: No accumulation of justifications (confirmations) can a

    Closure in any dimension is impossible without appeal to the consequent dimension.

    10) REPLACEMENT OF JUSTIFICATION WITH PROSECUTION (FALSIFICATION)

    11) PROSECUTORIAL OPERATIONS (WARRANTIES OF DUE DILIGENCE)ATION – INTERROGATABLE)

    Free association > idea(survives) > hypothesis(survives) > theory(survives) > law(survives) > Identity(tautology)(survives) > differences(consistent and inconsistent relations)(evolves) > [Loop].

    12) PROSECUTORIAL OPERATIONS (WARRANTIES OF DUE DILIGENCE)

    Falsification(Survival) by Measurement (cardinal, ordinal, decidable))

    Dimensions of survival.

    a) Categorical Consistency (identity) (competition between properties, relations and values and some reference consisting of properties relations and values)

    b) Internal consistency (logical)

    c) Observable Consistency (empirical)

    d) Existential Consistency (operational)

    e) Rational Consistency (praxeological (rational choice))

    f) Moral Consistency (reciprocal)

    g) Scope Consistency (limits and full accounting)

    h) Coherence (dimensional consistency).

    Decidability under Prosecution:

    ||Incomprehensible > Comprehensible(Decidable) > Possible(Decidable) > Contingent(True, Decidable) > False (Decidable)

    ……………………….. FALSE……..TRUE(CONTINGENT)……UNDECIDABLE

    ———————————————————————-

    FALSE ……………..|..FALSE…….FALSE………………………..UNDECIDABLE

    TRUE……………….|..FALSE…….TRUE………………………….UNDECIDABLE

    UNDECIDABLE….|..FALSE…….TRUE………………………….UNDECIDABLE

    Uses for Prosecution:

    TABLE OF JUSTIFICATION VS FALSIFICATION

    JUSTIFICATION (CONSTRUCTION) (“PHILOSOPHY”)

    Think…Imagine..Reason………InformalLogic…FormalLogic…Identity…Diff

    F-A ….Statmt….Statement…..Premise…………Axiom………….Identity…Diff.

    F-A…..Guess…..Abduction…..Induction……….Deduction……Identity…Diff.

    *F-A = Free Association

    —vs.—

    PROSECUTION (SURVIVAL FROM FALSIFICATION) (SCIENCE)

    F-A……Idea……..Hypoth………Theory……………Law…………..Identity……Diff.

    F-A……Falsify…..Falsify……….Falsify…………….Falsify………Parsimony…Diff.

    ….Internal……. ..Internal………External………….Market………Survival…. ‘True’.

    *True in science – true within scope.

    RATIONAL

    Productive…..Fully Informed…… Voluntary…..Warrantied…. Contained.

    MORAL(RECIPROCAL)

    Productive ….. Fully Informed …. Voluntary …. Warrantied… Contained … Reciprocal.

    *Contained = Free from imposition of costs by externality.

    TESTIMONY

    A warranty of due diligence in the test of consistency of the categorical, internal, external, existential, reasonable(action), reciprocal (moral), limits, full accounting, and of coherence.

    We often use the test of consistent(internal), correspondent(External), and coherent (commensurable between dimensions). And we either assume or skip limited and fully accounted, because those are most often supplied by context – however, context fails at non-trivial causal density (economics in particular), but our vulnerability to cherry picking appears endemic, such that without specific demands for limits and full accounting, we are easily suggestible (vulnerable to fraud).

    DEMAND FOR WARRANTY OF DUE DILIGENCE

    Mathematics

    Mathematics constant relations due to composition of all referrers using the single dimension of position (mathematics consists of the constant relation of position, due to the use of what we call ‘Numbers’ but which consist of positional names.) By use of positional names, all relations are reduced to positions in n dimensions. Thus enforcing constant relations.

    Logics (

    Algorithms

    Empiricism

    Science

    [F]alsehood Techniques.

    1) Ignorance (of information)

    2) Error (in reasoning)

    3) Overconfidence

    4) Bias, and Wishful thinking

    5) Loading, Framing, Suggestion, Obscurantism,

    6) Fiction, Inflation, Conflation

    7) Fictionalism (idealism, pseudoscience, supernaturalism, (primary means of overloading)

    8) Deceit. (full fiction)

    9) (Conspiracy – Scale 2)

    10) (Propagandism – Scale 3)

    11) (Institutionalization – Scale 4)

    If you cannot answer these questions or do not understand them you cannot know if you speak the truth, or if you are polluting the commons with fantasy, bias, error, or deception.

    EVIL < IMMORAL < UNETHICAL < |AMORAL| > ETHICAL > MORAL > GOOD.

    MORAL (USAGE)

    The term “Moral” can be used in a specific sense or a general sense. Either as behavior that imposes costs anonymously and indirectly, or as a general term to refer to all moral, ethical, and criminal behavior.

    Specific:

    0) In the series criminal, ethical, and moral, criminal refers to overt crimes, ethical to crimes of interpersonal informational asymmetry (crimes against a person you deal with), and moral to indirect crimes of informational asymmetry (crimes against the social order).

    General:

    1) Objective (decidable) morality: non imposition / reciprocity (Productive, fully informed, warrantied, voluntary transfer, free of imposition of costs against demonstrated investments by externality.)

    2) Normative morality: that portfolio of norms that in the aggregate produce a group evolutionary strategy, and therefore immoral and moral actions may be judged objectively or normatively.

    3) Subjective moral intuitions: that moral intuition we possess because of the combination of genetics, environment and training, and our attempt to survive genetic , social, and economic competition. These may be judged normatively and objectively.

    4) Fictional Morality: those wishful arguments we make.. etc. These may be judged subjectively, normatively, and objectively.

    CLOSING

    The question is, how can we speak in a manner that limits the semantics, grammar, and syntax to constant relations that are invulnerable to, resistant to, or which expose, the various falsehoods that skew, eliminate, or replace, existing constant relations?


    Source date (UTC): 2017-12-11 16:39:00 UTC

  • David (all) It is quite possible to reduce human categories, relations and value

    David (all) It is quite possible to reduce human categories, relations and values to a correspondent, consistent, coherent, and commensurable set of references. And as far as I know we can also simulate the same changes in state within the machine that we experience via our reward systems (emotions). Now, just as some people can’t imitate your actions, sympathize with your thinking, and empathize with your feelings, because the differences in frames are too hard to overcome, I suspect that machines will ‘get it wrong’ with some of us now and then. Some people want to work with the neural network architecture. And NN’s are exceptional at reducing inputs to symbols (objects, relations, values). And in my opinion the NN ceases being useful(cost effective and controllable) at the point at which we develop symbols (objects, relations, values). Beyond the construction of symbols, the game engine (algorithmic) architecture appears to be a better solution. We can create transparency, auditability, and yes, conscience, as long as we use such an architecture. For example, imagine that you could only act upon what you could vocalize? I’ll also stay on message that the fundamental problem any intelligence faces is taking action to conduct tests. Ergo the primary problem with ‘superintelligence’ or even ‘general intelligence’ as I understand it, (and I have been at this a long time), are the same as the primary problem with knowledge creation in any other field: cost, logistics, and permission to organize a network of actions. There don’t seem to be many other people in AI that have both an understanding of computer science, an understanding of economics, and the economics of the increasingly complex problem of experimentation whether personal, political, entrepreneurial, technical, or It is, believe it or not, within one lifetime, possible for a human being of adequate ability and time to comprehend the limits of each and every major discipline. And it is equally possible to ‘keep up’ with the current status of those disciplines. As far as I know computers will not mine much that is good out of the existing base of knowldge. The primary difference is that machies will be able to think and act faster than us in work capacities. In creativity? Creativity isn’t a process of reasoning but free association, and experimentation. The problem in every field today is that where it took one person to solve a scientific problem a century ago, it takes armies of them today. The problem is cost.
  • David (all) It is quite possible to reduce human categories, relations and value

    David (all) It is quite possible to reduce human categories, relations and values to a correspondent, consistent, coherent, and commensurable set of references. And as far as I know we can also simulate the same changes in state within the machine that we experience via our reward systems (emotions). Now, just as some people can’t imitate your actions, sympathize with your thinking, and empathize with your feelings, because the differences in frames are too hard to overcome, I suspect that machines will ‘get it wrong’ with some of us now and then. Some people want to work with the neural network architecture. And NN’s are exceptional at reducing inputs to symbols (objects, relations, values). And in my opinion the NN ceases being useful(cost effective and controllable) at the point at which we develop symbols (objects, relations, values). Beyond the construction of symbols, the game engine (algorithmic) architecture appears to be a better solution. We can create transparency, auditability, and yes, conscience, as long as we use such an architecture. For example, imagine that you could only act upon what you could vocalize? I’ll also stay on message that the fundamental problem any intelligence faces is taking action to conduct tests. Ergo the primary problem with ‘superintelligence’ or even ‘general intelligence’ as I understand it, (and I have been at this a long time), are the same as the primary problem with knowledge creation in any other field: cost, logistics, and permission to organize a network of actions. There don’t seem to be many other people in AI that have both an understanding of computer science, an understanding of economics, and the economics of the increasingly complex problem of experimentation whether personal, political, entrepreneurial, technical, or It is, believe it or not, within one lifetime, possible for a human being of adequate ability and time to comprehend the limits of each and every major discipline. And it is equally possible to ‘keep up’ with the current status of those disciplines. As far as I know computers will not mine much that is good out of the existing base of knowldge. The primary difference is that machies will be able to think and act faster than us in work capacities. In creativity? Creativity isn’t a process of reasoning but free association, and experimentation. The problem in every field today is that where it took one person to solve a scientific problem a century ago, it takes armies of them today. The problem is cost.
  • David (all) It is quite possible to reduce human categories, relations and value

    David (all)

    It is quite possible to reduce human categories, relations and values to a correspondent, consistent, coherent, and commensurable set of references.

    And as far as I know we can also simulate the same changes in state within the machine that we experience via our reward systems (emotions).

    Now, just as some people can’t imitate your actions, sympathize with your thinking, and empathize with your feelings, because the differences in frames are too hard to overcome, I suspect that machines will ‘get it wrong’ with some of us now and then.

    Some people want to work with the neural network architecture. And NN’s are exceptional at reducing inputs to symbols (objects, relations, values). And in my opinion the NN ceases being useful(cost effective and controllable) at the point at which we develop symbols (objects, relations, values).

    Beyond the construction of symbols, the game engine (algorithmic) architecture appears to be a better solution.

    We can create transparency, auditability, and yes, conscience, as long as we use such an architecture. For example, imagine that you could only act upon what you could vocalize?

    I’ll also stay on message that the fundamental problem any intelligence faces is taking action to conduct tests. Ergo the primary problem with ‘superintelligence’ or even ‘general intelligence’ as I understand it, (and I have been at this a long time), are the same as the primary problem with knowledge creation in any other field: cost, logistics, and permission to organize a network of actions.

    There don’t seem to be many other people in AI that have both an understanding of computer science, an understanding of economics, and the economics of the increasingly complex problem of experimentation whether personal, political, entrepreneurial, technical, or

    It is, believe it or not, within one lifetime, possible for a human being of adequate ability and time to comprehend the limits of each and every major discipline. And it is equally possible to ‘keep up’ with the current status of those disciplines.

    As far as I know computers will not mine much that is good out of the existing base of knowldge.

    The primary difference is that machies will be able to think and act faster than us in work capacities.

    In creativity? Creativity isn’t a process of reasoning but free association, and experimentation.

    The problem in every field today is that where it took one person to solve a scientific problem a century ago, it takes armies of them today.

    The problem is cost.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-12-08 16:35:00 UTC

  • The Function Of Philosophizing

    The function of philosophizing is the continuous improvement in decidability, choice and preference through the continuous reorganization of narratives, paradigms, theories, categories, relations and values, in response to continuous introduction of new knowledge , ideas, and experience, by the fairly simple process of permuting through sets of constant relations, in the fairly complex, high causal density we call reality.
  • The Function Of Philosophizing

    The function of philosophizing is the continuous improvement in decidability, choice and preference through the continuous reorganization of narratives, paradigms, theories, categories, relations and values, in response to continuous introduction of new knowledge , ideas, and experience, by the fairly simple process of permuting through sets of constant relations, in the fairly complex, high causal density we call reality.
  • THE FUNCTION OF PHILOSOPHIZING The function of philosophizing is the continuous

    THE FUNCTION OF PHILOSOPHIZING

    The function of philosophizing is the continuous improvement in decidability, choice and preference through the continuous reorganization of narratives, paradigms, theories, categories, relations and values, in response to continuous introduction of new knowledge , ideas, and experience, by the fairly simple process of permuting through sets of constant relations, in the fairly complex, high causal density we call reality.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-12-05 13:35:00 UTC

  • Decidability For Newbs

    “Decidability in logic or mathematics means that the information to distinguish between 3 and 4 for example, requires no additional information for comparison. Whereas choice and preference require information external to the argument. I use ‘decidability’ and ‘truth’ very precisely.
  • DECIDABILITY FOR NEWBS “Decidability in logic or mathematics means that the info

    DECIDABILITY FOR NEWBS

    “Decidability in logic or mathematics means that the information to distinguish between 3 and 4 for example, requires no additional information for comparison. Whereas choice and preference require information external to the argument.

    I use ‘decidability’ and ‘truth’ very precisely.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-12-04 11:22:00 UTC