Um. You know. If i asked you “How would you go about creating a value-neutral, cross-disciplinary, fully commensurable language that could survive in court under testimony in all matters of conflict.”, I’ll bet you can’t even begin to imagine where to start and how to go about it. So yeah, that’s Propertarianism (or that’s the spectrum within Propertarianism, including vitruvianism->metaphysics, acquisitionism->psychology, compatibilism->sociology, propertarianism->ethics, testimonialism->epistemology, and algorithmic natural law->politics). And it includes reformation of every one of the grammars (disciplines). So of COURSE you aren’t going to understand THAT LANGUAGE off the bat. You aren’t going to understand how to convert from IDEAL language (pretense of knowledge) we use today to REAL language (demonstrating knowledge). Worse you are not going to understand how to convert your thinking from simple human scale justification, to post human scale via negativa falsification, and finally into well formed statements in operational language. So please don’t waste my time until you catch up to the people who HAVE done so. Ok. Yeah. Thanks. sigh…
Theme: Decidability
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Nassim: idea: Solving for reasonableness (reverse justification) rather than sol
Nassim: idea: Solving for reasonableness (reverse justification) rather than solving for decidability (truth: surviving construction and falseification)
Source date (UTC): 2018-11-06 18:44:41 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1059879258120687616
Reply addressees: @nntaleb @SamHarrisOrg
Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1009872629673717760
IN REPLY TO:
@nntaleb
The other problem with Charlatan @SamHarrisOrg is that he talks about “rationality” without even remotely knowing what it means.
Charlatan.
https://t.co/0WwJtmeeGuOriginal post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1009872629673717760
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THEM (MIDDLE EAST) VS US (WEST) Face ………………………vs Truth Reasona
THEM (MIDDLE EAST) VS US (WEST)
Face ………………………vs Truth
Reasonableness ……..vs Decidability
Pilpul ……………………..vs Construction
Critique ………………….vs Falsification
Authority ………………..vs Market
Equality ………………….vs Hierarchy
Proportionality ………..vs Reciprocity
Herd ………………………vs Pack.
Feminine ………………..vs Masculine
Source date (UTC): 2018-10-30 20:15:00 UTC
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Table: The Middle East vs The West
October 30th, 2018 8:15 PM
THEM (MIDDLE EAST) VS US (WEST) Face ..................vs Truth Reasonableness ........vs Decidability Pilpul ................vs Construction Critique ..............vs Falsification Authority .............vs Market Equality ..............vs Hierarchy Proportionality .......vs Reciprocity Herd ..................vs Pack. Feminine ..............vs Masculine
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Table: The Middle East vs The West
October 30th, 2018 8:15 PM
THEM (MIDDLE EAST) VS US (WEST) Face ..................vs Truth Reasonableness ........vs Decidability Pilpul ................vs Construction Critique ..............vs Falsification Authority .............vs Market Equality ..............vs Hierarchy Proportionality .......vs Reciprocity Herd ..................vs Pack. Feminine ..............vs Masculine
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AGAIN: OPERATIONS (REAL) VS SETS (IDEAL) – CANTOR AS AN EXAMPLE OF THE PROBLEM I
AGAIN: OPERATIONS (REAL) VS SETS (IDEAL) – CANTOR AS AN EXAMPLE OF THE PROBLEM IN MATHEMATICS AND BY EXTENSION EVERYTHING.
—“Ok but Cantor’s work is specifically set-theoretic, not analytical. Also, an infinite sum is by definition a sum over a countable set. So cantor’s notions are in fact relevant for this.”—Alex Pareto
Yes it is a sacred cow because people who are (knowingly or unknowingly) mathematical platonists are just as indoctrinated into superstitious nonsense as people who are indoctrinated into platonism proper, and people indoctrinated into theology. They know how to DO what they do (meaning make arguments with the objects, relations, and values of their vocabulary and grammar) but they don’t know how and why what they do functions.
Frequencies are the scientific description and infinities (sizes) the fictional (imaginary) description. The difference is that those of us who work in the sciences, where we CANNOT engage in Platonism, because that is the purpose of science: to prevent such ‘magical’ speech, and instead force us to undrestand the causal relations between reality and our speech.
So in this case a number consists of nothing more than the name of a position. That’s it. Mathematics consists of the vocabulary and grammar of positional names. Nothing more. Period.
We generate positional names by the process of positional naming. We can scientifically describe that process as did Babbage, Turing, and Computer Science (consisting of nothing but addition), with gears, or the positional equivalent of gears (positional names), or the electronic-switch(memory) of positional names, and use these gears to produce positional names and operations on positional names at varying speeds. We can also tell a ‘story’ about those things (a fiction) which is what we do with literary, symbolic, and set mathematics. And then we can tell a fairy tale about sets, as if they are an equivalent to red riding hood.
But no matter what we do, operationally, (scientifically) all we can do is produce a series of positional names faster or slower than another series of positional names.
Ergo, there exists only one name “infinity” for “unknown limit of operations” and different rates (frequencies) by which we generate positional names, using any set of operations with which we produce positional names.
This is why mathematics ‘went off the rails’ into fictionalism despite Poincare’s and others efforts at the beginning of the 20th century. Math is just the use of positional names which have only one property: position, and therefore only ONE constant relation: position.
All logic consists of the study of constant relations, and as such mathematics provides the most commensurable language of constant relations, since it has only ONE constant relation: position.
Source date (UTC): 2018-10-28 08:43:00 UTC
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Cont. 7) And this difference between dependence upon COMPUTATION and CALCULATION
Cont. 7) And this difference between dependence upon COMPUTATION and CALCULATION and MEASUREMENT in the overthrow of bias and priors, rather than REASON and INTUITION and EXPERIENCE in justification of bias and priors. ie:continental from rousseau onward is religion by sophistry.
Source date (UTC): 2018-10-25 21:20:02 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055569701005377536
Reply addressees: @PhilosophyCuck @MrKennan1948 @WorMartiN
Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055556675585875968
IN REPLY TO:
@Jonas_Ceika
@MrKennan1948 @curtdoolittle @WorMartiN The language is very familiar to me. What confuses me is the fact that it’s completely detached from any of my criticisms on the topic.
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055556675585875968
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You know. Again. I curate my feed. That means I delete what wastes my time and t
You know. Again. I curate my feed. That means I delete what wastes my time and that of others: not an argument, stupid, unhelpful, not funny, and indeterminable. And if I can’t understand your attempt at disapproval, ridicule, sarcasm, humor, or support in about half a second that’s why I deleted your comment. OK? Nothin’ personal. We teach argument here. We teach argument competitively by an endless king of the hill game. And yes, we trash talk a little bit too. So if you were pushed off the hill, you need to try harder. lolz -hugs.
Source date (UTC): 2018-10-20 13:01:00 UTC
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PROPERTARIANISM ISN’T AN IDEOLOGY. IT’S THE LOGIC OF RECIPROCITY (Propertarianis
PROPERTARIANISM ISN’T AN IDEOLOGY. IT’S THE LOGIC OF RECIPROCITY (Propertarianism) AND THE SCIENCE OF TESTIMONY, COMBINED INTO A FORMAL RATIO-EMPIRICAL SYSTEM OF LAW (Decidability) FOR ETHICS, AND POLITICS.
In other words, it’s the solution to social science.
—“This is crucial for people that want to claim they don’t adhere to the “propertarian ideology”. It is not an ideology. It is a methodology and much like science it focuses on empirical evidence and the falsification of proposed truth claims. Most people that say they don’t agree with “propertarian ideology” have an ideology of their own that has been found to be based on lies via propertarian methods and that’s the real objection.”– Curtus Maximus (A Sock/Alias of Someone Else)
You cannot defeat it. Sorry. You can however, state that despite your ideology being parasitic, predatory(immoral) and dishonest (fraudulent) that you cannot compete by meritocratic (market, evolutionary, eugenic) means, (meaning you’re inferior) and therefore must resort to parasitism, predation, and deceit (fraud), to survive by parasitism, predation, and fraud.
It’s ok to do that. It’s just the truth. But you can’t make any kind of moral argument to support it.
Source date (UTC): 2018-10-16 16:22:00 UTC
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Disambiguation provides commensurability across grammars
October 14th, 2018 5:03 PM by Bill Joslin
Note: Grammars of ambiguation, each obscures calculation. Grammars of disambiguation clarify calculation and the boon being commensurability when available. Ambiguity-disambiguation provides commensurability across grammars – a quality measure of a grammar —- CD: Bill is there. I am no longer alone in the universe. lol 😉