October 23rd, 2018 10:08 AM A HARD CONCEPT TO INTERNALIZE: VIA-NEGATIVA LYING [S]cience and Law are via-negativa disciplines. We know truth by eliminating what is false. We know legal, ethical, moral, and good, by eliminating what is irreciprocal, unethical, immoral, criminal, and bad. Science is the means by which we perform due diligence against ignorance, error, bias, suggestion, fictionalism, and deceit – leaving only truth candidates remaining. So, when we say someone is LYING it does not require that they via-positiva relied upon intent. Instead, we require via-negativa, that we take involuntary responsibility for performing due diligence against spreading a falsehood suggestion or deceit. So via-negativa, someone is lying if they distribute a falsehood suggestion or deceit, regardless of whether they intend to. This is a higher standard of suppression of falsehood – one that is necessary to prevent the spread of falsehoods. Because we have been defeated once by the falsehood of monotheism, and the same people are trying to defeat us with mono-classism, and monopoly. We are the only people to create a market between classes and ideas, and everyone else produced a monopoly equalitarianism, or a monopoly hierarchy, rather than the markets that have made our successes possible. People always resist paying the costs of incremental increases in suppression of opportunity for free riding, conspiracy, deception, fraud, theft and violence, just as they resist paying all costs of creating and maintaining the commons: physical, normative, and informational. That does not mean that we are always and everywhere paying those costs in exchange for the most valuable commons we can produce: good information, truthful speech, the trust, economic velocity, and innovation that results from it. Because the only way a small, high-individual-investment, superior population can compete is by producing the economy necessary to pay for the superior technological means ( and arms) by which to compensate for their numbers. Cheers. Curt Doolittle The Philosophy of Aristocracy The Propertarian Institute Kiev, Ukraine
Theme: Deception
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A HARD CONCEPT TO INTERNALIZE: VIA-NEGATIVA LYING Science and Law are via-negati
A HARD CONCEPT TO INTERNALIZE: VIA-NEGATIVA LYING
Science and Law are via-negativa disciplines. We know truth by eliminating what is false. We know legal, ethical, moral, and good, by eliminating what is irreciprocal, unethical, immoral, criminal, and bad. Science is the means by which we perform due diligence against ignorance, error, bias, suggestion, fictionalism, and deceit – leaving only truth candidates remaining.
So, when we say someone is LYING it does not require that they via-positiva relied upon intent. Instead, we require via-negativa, that we take involuntary responsibility for performing due diligence against spreading a falsehood suggestion or deceit. So via-negativa, someone is lying if they distribute a falsehood suggestion or deceit, regardless of whether they intend to.
This is a higher standard of suppression of falsehood – one that is necessary to prevent the spread of falsehoods. Because we have been defeated once by the falsehood of monotheism, and the same people are trying to defeat us with mono-classism, and monopoly. We are the only people to create a market between classes and ideas, and everyone else produced a monopoly equalitarianism, or a monopoly hierarchy, rather than the markets that have made our successes possible.
People always resist paying the costs of incremental increases in suppression of opportunity for free riding, conspiracy, deception, fraud, theft and violence, just as they resist paying all costs of creating and maintaining the commons: physical, normative, and informational.
That does not mean that we are always and everywhere paying those costs in exchange for the most valuable commons we can produce: good information, truthful speech, the trust, economic velocity, and innovation that results from it.
Because the only way a small, high-individual-investment, superior population can compete is by producing the economy necessary to pay for the superior technological means ( and arms) by which to compensate for their numbers.
Cheers.
Curt Doolittle
The Philosophy of Aristocracy
The Propertarian Institute
Kiev, Ukraine
Source date (UTC): 2018-10-23 10:08:00 UTC
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I didn’t foresee the ‘play’ of paying south americans to crash the border prior
I didn’t foresee the ‘play’ of paying south americans to crash the border prior to the election. Whoever set that up (Soros?) did a great job.
Things (the direction) is moving fast.
Revolution Comes.
Source date (UTC): 2018-10-23 01:34:22 UTC
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They are taking advantage of you just as “Mediums” took advantage of people in t
They are taking advantage of you just as “Mediums” took advantage of people in the victorian era. They are no more sophisticated than children’s toys.
Source date (UTC): 2018-10-22 22:18:54 UTC
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I didn’t foresee the ‘play’ of paying south americans to crash the border prior
I didn’t foresee the ‘play’ of paying south americans to crash the border prior to the election. Whoever set that up (Soros?) did a great job.
Things (the direction) is moving fast.
Revolution Comes.
Source date (UTC): 2018-10-22 21:33:00 UTC
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Man: Known as In Self Deceptions or Known as In Demonstrated Actions (truth)?
October 21st, 2018 1:36 PM MAN: KNOWN AS IN SELF DECEPTIONS OR KNOWN AS IN DEMONSTRATED ACTIONS (TRUTH)?
—“If Propertarianism is grounded solely on science and not religion, then on what basis is Man (with a great M) known?”—Josef Kalinin
Joseph : I can’t decompose that question. Man ‘is’, (exists as) that which he has demonstrated by his history. the stories (sedations) we tell ourselves at any point in history, merely serve to ameliorate our instincts (largely status) in relation to our resources (physical, emotional, mental) budges, and existential resources in all their forms – from physical things to relationships to knowledge. So are you asking “What is man?”, or “What methods of sedation (self medication) has man used through history?” Propertarianism ‘accounts for’ (takes account of): Math, Logic, Science (Physics-Chemistry-Biology, Psychology, Law, Economics, History, Literature, Philosophy, Religion, The Occult, the Fictionalisms, and Methods of Deceit. What it most takes account of, and no others do, is the transition of our understanding, knowledge and instrumentation from human scale to pre (supra/below) and post (super/above) human scale. And as such at humans scale (Morality, Instructions, arithmetic(construction),confirmation) we speak in justifications (Via-Positivas) because we can directly apprehend such constant relations, where at below and above human scale (Law, Science, Mathematics(deduction), Falsification) we speak in falsifications (Via-Negativas) because we cannot directly perceive those constant relations with our senses. The world wars (Anglo/Balance and Russian/Expansion Screw Ups) interrupted the darwinian-mengerian-specerian-maxwellian-poincarian-nietzschiean-romanticist revolution. And the 20th century in social science was lost, as the cult-of-dysgenic-socialism found itself in a christ figure versus a darwinian evil of eugenic-national-socialism, which allowed the suppression of the second scientific revolution (in germany). But beginning in the 1990’s science has (slowly) rescued us such that without immigration we would have corrected the problem already.
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Man: Known as In Self Deceptions or Known as In Demonstrated Actions (truth)?
October 21st, 2018 1:36 PM MAN: KNOWN AS IN SELF DECEPTIONS OR KNOWN AS IN DEMONSTRATED ACTIONS (TRUTH)?
—“If Propertarianism is grounded solely on science and not religion, then on what basis is Man (with a great M) known?”—Josef Kalinin
Joseph : I can’t decompose that question. Man ‘is’, (exists as) that which he has demonstrated by his history. the stories (sedations) we tell ourselves at any point in history, merely serve to ameliorate our instincts (largely status) in relation to our resources (physical, emotional, mental) budges, and existential resources in all their forms – from physical things to relationships to knowledge. So are you asking “What is man?”, or “What methods of sedation (self medication) has man used through history?” Propertarianism ‘accounts for’ (takes account of): Math, Logic, Science (Physics-Chemistry-Biology, Psychology, Law, Economics, History, Literature, Philosophy, Religion, The Occult, the Fictionalisms, and Methods of Deceit. What it most takes account of, and no others do, is the transition of our understanding, knowledge and instrumentation from human scale to pre (supra/below) and post (super/above) human scale. And as such at humans scale (Morality, Instructions, arithmetic(construction),confirmation) we speak in justifications (Via-Positivas) because we can directly apprehend such constant relations, where at below and above human scale (Law, Science, Mathematics(deduction), Falsification) we speak in falsifications (Via-Negativas) because we cannot directly perceive those constant relations with our senses. The world wars (Anglo/Balance and Russian/Expansion Screw Ups) interrupted the darwinian-mengerian-specerian-maxwellian-poincarian-nietzschiean-romanticist revolution. And the 20th century in social science was lost, as the cult-of-dysgenic-socialism found itself in a christ figure versus a darwinian evil of eugenic-national-socialism, which allowed the suppression of the second scientific revolution (in germany). But beginning in the 1990’s science has (slowly) rescued us such that without immigration we would have corrected the problem already.
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Answering Criticisms
On Curt’s Rules of Discourse
“The Teaching Law on Social Media Is Like Teaching in A Locker Room”
- Rules of Discourse
- Are You Acting In Good Faith?
- The Intellectually Honest Skeptic Asks…
(… and the Intellectually Dishonest Overconfident Demands.) - Dear Overconfident Young Men
- Blocking Policy
- The New Standard on Social Media
Criticisms of Curt
Well, you know, teaching in a locker room requries certain chops.
- Curt, Why Are You a Pompous Ass? (good Reason)
- A Good Criticism.
- Ad Hom’s Why Is Curt Out Of Country? (He Isn’t)
- Ad Hom in Response to Non-Argument, Falsehood, or Fraud Is Warranted.
Criticisms of Propertarianism
“There Are Some. You Aren’t Making Them. But They’re Not Of The Work”
- Known Criticisms of The Work
- Legitimate Criticism of Prop
- Another Legitimate Criticism of Prop
- A Legit Criticism that Is an Unreasonable Criticism
- On Whether Propertarianism Contains an Aesthetic
- What You *Can* Criticize
- I Don’t Have Any Technical Critics – at All
- Preface to Would Be Critics
- Limits of Criticism: Crossing the Line Into Legally Actionable
Criticism of Open Discourse on Revolt
“All Revolutions are Suspect in Prospect but Deterministic in Retrospect.”“The Surest Means of Preventing People From Stumbling into Civil War Is To Make them Certain They Are Doing It, And That You Have A Solution To Prevent it.”
- Why No Secrecy?
- Why Talk of Revolt, Revolution, Civil War?
- How Revolutions Are Made
- The Biggest Army in The World? Us.
- The Hierarchy of Warfare
Approach to Other Conservatives
“Men Form Packs, Wear Uniforms of their Packs, and Choose Leaders of their Packs that Share Their Paradigms and Interests. Packs must work together not coalesce into a herd, It won’t happen.”
- Visions of The Future
- Thoughts on Others
- Our Packs Must Work Together Toward Shared Ends
- The Languages of Male Packs
- Fearful Conservatives – Understand Yourselves
- Intolerance – We Don”t Need You if You’re Costly
- Any Good Arguments for Supremacy?
Criticism of Others
“Mises, Rothbard, Hoppe, Yarvin, and Hayek and yes, Doolittle all tried to solve the problem of social sciences under rule of law versus rule by men. They just did so dragging their cultural means of persuasion, and reasoning with them. The difference is that Anglo empiricism and its scientific method is simply the operation of the court of tort applied outside the courtroom. I knew they were all close but failing. It was a hard problem made harder by their backgrounds.”“It is rarely valuable to criticize others except to learn by doing so. They aren’t interested. The best you can do is counteract whatever harm they’re doing.”David Friedman ( David is the least bad of the jewish libertarians. But at some point someone asked me to do a treatment and I did. It was so embarrassing I had to stop after ten pages. )
- asdfasdfasdf
Jordan Peterson (“Peterson has probably run his course but done well doing so. My principal criticism is that he retains devotion to parable and mysticism. In his business of therapy this means of suggestion is an appeal to an authority that serves his purposes of reprogramming the patient without cognitive resistance. That is problematic but tolerable. What’s not tolerable is his conflation of Useful Wisdom with Truth.”)
- asdasdfasdf
Stefan Molyneux (“I don’t really criticize Stefan, it’s more that I want him to complete his journey on the one hand and stop reinforcing silly libertarian NAP nonsense on the other.”)
- fasdfasdf
Nassim Taleb (“Taleb and I work on a similar problem from two ends of the spectrum of that problem, and we have similarly intolerant personalities. However, his attempt to discredit IQ as a means of defending immigration into Europe by his people was something I couldn’t pass on.”)
- adsfasdf
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Answering Criticisms
On Curt’s Rules of Discourse
“The Teaching Law on Social Media Is Like Teaching in A Locker Room”
- Rules of Discourse
- Are You Acting In Good Faith?
- The Intellectually Honest Skeptic Asks…
(… and the Intellectually Dishonest Overconfident Demands.) - Dear Overconfident Young Men
- Blocking Policy
- The New Standard on Social Media
Criticisms of Curt
Well, you know, teaching in a locker room requries certain chops.
- Curt, Why Are You a Pompous Ass? (good Reason)
- A Good Criticism.
- Ad Hom’s Why Is Curt Out Of Country? (He Isn’t)
- Ad Hom in Response to Non-Argument, Falsehood, or Fraud Is Warranted.
Criticisms of Propertarianism
“There Are Some. You Aren’t Making Them. But They’re Not Of The Work”
- Known Criticisms of The Work
- Legitimate Criticism of Prop
- Another Legitimate Criticism of Prop
- A Legit Criticism that Is an Unreasonable Criticism
- On Whether Propertarianism Contains an Aesthetic
- What You *Can* Criticize
- I Don’t Have Any Technical Critics – at All
- Preface to Would Be Critics
- Limits of Criticism: Crossing the Line Into Legally Actionable
Criticism of Open Discourse on Revolt
“All Revolutions are Suspect in Prospect but Deterministic in Retrospect.”“The Surest Means of Preventing People From Stumbling into Civil War Is To Make them Certain They Are Doing It, And That You Have A Solution To Prevent it.”
- Why No Secrecy?
- Why Talk of Revolt, Revolution, Civil War?
- How Revolutions Are Made
- The Biggest Army in The World? Us.
- The Hierarchy of Warfare
Approach to Other Conservatives
“Men Form Packs, Wear Uniforms of their Packs, and Choose Leaders of their Packs that Share Their Paradigms and Interests. Packs must work together not coalesce into a herd, It won’t happen.”
- Visions of The Future
- Thoughts on Others
- Our Packs Must Work Together Toward Shared Ends
- The Languages of Male Packs
- Fearful Conservatives – Understand Yourselves
- Intolerance – We Don”t Need You if You’re Costly
- Any Good Arguments for Supremacy?
Criticism of Others
“Mises, Rothbard, Hoppe, Yarvin, and Hayek and yes, Doolittle all tried to solve the problem of social sciences under rule of law versus rule by men. They just did so dragging their cultural means of persuasion, and reasoning with them. The difference is that Anglo empiricism and its scientific method is simply the operation of the court of tort applied outside the courtroom. I knew they were all close but failing. It was a hard problem made harder by their backgrounds.”“It is rarely valuable to criticize others except to learn by doing so. They aren’t interested. The best you can do is counteract whatever harm they’re doing.”David Friedman ( David is the least bad of the jewish libertarians. But at some point someone asked me to do a treatment and I did. It was so embarrassing I had to stop after ten pages. )
- asdfasdfasdf
Jordan Peterson (“Peterson has probably run his course but done well doing so. My principal criticism is that he retains devotion to parable and mysticism. In his business of therapy this means of suggestion is an appeal to an authority that serves his purposes of reprogramming the patient without cognitive resistance. That is problematic but tolerable. What’s not tolerable is his conflation of Useful Wisdom with Truth.”)
- asdasdfasdf
Stefan Molyneux (“I don’t really criticize Stefan, it’s more that I want him to complete his journey on the one hand and stop reinforcing silly libertarian NAP nonsense on the other.”)
- fasdfasdf
Nassim Taleb (“Taleb and I work on a similar problem from two ends of the spectrum of that problem, and we have similarly intolerant personalities. However, his attempt to discredit IQ as a means of defending immigration into Europe by his people was something I couldn’t pass on.”)
- adsfasdf
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MAN: KNOWN AS I SELF DECEPTIONS OR KNOWN AS IN DEMONSTRATED ACTIONS (TRUTH)? —
MAN: KNOWN AS I SELF DECEPTIONS OR KNOWN AS IN DEMONSTRATED ACTIONS (TRUTH)?
—“If Propertarianism is grounded solely on science and not religion, then on what basis is Man (with a great M) known?”—Josef Kalinin
Joseph : I can’t decompose that question. Man ‘is’, (exists as) that which he has demonstrated by his history. the stories (sedations) we tell ourselves at any point in history, merely serve to ameliorate our instincts (largely status) in relation to our resources (physical, emotional, mental) budges, and existential resources in all their forms – from physical things to relationships to knowledge.
So are you asking “What is man?”, or “What methods of sedation (self medication) has man used through history?”
Propertarianism ‘accounts for’ (takes account of):
Math, Logic, Science (Physics-Chemistry-Biology, Psychology, Law, Economics, History, Literature, Philosophy, Religion, The Occult, the Fictionalisms, and Methods of Deceit.
What it most takes account of, and no others do, is the transition of our understanding, knowledge and instrumentation from human scale to pre (supra/below) and post (super/above) human scale.
And as such at humans scale (Morality, Instructions, arithmetic(construction),confirmation) we speak in justifications (Via-Positivas) because we can directly apprehend such constant relations, where at below and above human scale (Law, Science, Mathematics(deduction), Falsification) we speak in falsifications (Via-Negativas) because we cannot directly perceive those constant relations with our senses.
The world wars (Anglo/Balance and Russian/Expansion Screw Ups) interrupted the darwinian-mengerian-specerian-maxwellian-poincarian-nietzschiean-romanticist revolution. And the 20th century in social science was lost, as the cult-of-dysgenic-socialism found itself in a christ figure versus a darwinian evil of eugenic-national-socialism, which allowed the suppression of the second scientific revolution (in germany).
But beginning in the 1990’s science has (slowly) rescued us such that without immigration we would have corrected the problem already.
Source date (UTC): 2018-10-21 13:36:00 UTC