[W]e aren’t debating, or discoursing. We can’t debate or discourse until we’re not lying. Until we’re not lying we’re in conflict. So I am prosecuting your ideas to ensure you’re not lying. Only after you’re no longer lying, can we say that we are negotiating an exchange. But if we start from your premise of lying, and your premise of falsehoods, an honest exchange is not possible. If an honest exchange is not possible, then violence is preferable. So I am not trying to discover the truth. The truth is unknowable. I am not trying to discover an optimum solution, because it may be unknowable. I am only trying to ensure that you are not engaging in error, bias, wishful thinking, and deception. At that point, what remains is but truth. And all truthful exchanges of mutual benefit are ‘true’ and ‘optimum’. And all lies and thefts by lie are neither true nor optimum. So you start from the position of maximizing benefit. I start from the position of needing a reason not to kill you for lying.
Theme: Deception
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I’m Prosecuting You. It’s not a Debate.
(PS: If you combine ethical propertarianism with personal stoicism you are probably the very best thinker that man can be.) -
“We don’t agree that…”– [W]ell saying we don’t agree is to use a rhetorical f
–“We don’t agree that…”–
[W]ell saying we don’t agree is to use a rhetorical fallacy. Statements are true, false, or incomplete, whether we agree with one another or not. 1) There exist no laws of science itself. There exist, and we have evolved, procedures that we use to eliminate error, bias, wishful thinking and deceit from our hypothesis. These processes do not tell us a statement is true, they tell us only that it remains a truth candidate if it survives that set of criticisms. 2) There exist intuitions, hypothesis, theories, laws, and tautologies, because we have constructed them, and demonstrate them as such. 3) But there exist no non-tautological, yet certain premises: in other words, in any statement of arbitrary precision, we must seek limits, because all general rules possess limits. This is where mises failed by attempting to make use of justificationary Kantian rationalism instead of critical Popperian rationalism:science. Since there are no certain premises there are no certain deductions. Since there are laws we may deduce from them outcomes of equal precision. But if these are imprecise, then so are our deductions. 4) We can construct descriptive statements (theories) that are true, but inactionable, because they lack sufficient precision. A regularity may be so slow (business cycles, political cycles, generation cycles, and civilizational cycles) that no matter what we do within them, it is merely noise. Mises proposition that history is non-regular is based upon the presumption that each exchange is unique because it is both subjective and momentary. But he also proposes that we can empathize (sympathize) with economic statements and thereby test the rationality of any incentive. This pair of propositions constitutes is a logical contradiction. Since we can decide whether an incentive is rational, and we can test the rationality of others decisions (it’s how we test liars in court), then our judgements are marginally indifferent. If they are marginally indifferent, then they can be represented as constants. So at one end of the spectrum, decisions are marginally indifferent and we have tested this in thousands of ways in both economics and experimental psychology. And at the other end his purported axioms (action), and his purported laws (inflation, the neutrality of money, minimum wage) are both sufficiently imprecise as to be inactionable. When in fact, it is possible to produce intentional externalities by intentionally mainpulating these behaviors caused by assymetric information and resource distribution. And we can (quite accurately) measure those distortions. So it is not that these systems are not regular (they are), or that they are not deterministic (they are), or that they are not actionable (they are actionable), and therefore they are scientifically testable. Instead of being impervious to science in the development of general rules, it’s that these actions are immoral: they cause involuntary transfers from people with lower/longer time preference, to those with higher/shorter time preference, and thereby not only steal, but deprive the commons of behavioral change necessary to preserve extended time preference. ie: mises confused a moral theft, with a scientific truth. This is just one of his many failings in developing his pseudoscientific kantian nonsense – for which he was outcast from the profession, justifiably. His second main failing was that he did not grasp that he intuited (as did brouwer in math and bridgman in physics) that praxeology produced proofs of construction, but was insufficient for deduction. A proof of construction is necessary (not only in economics but in mathematics) to demonstrate that an economic statement is existentially possible. It is a means of attempting to falsify a statement. But most economic effects are not deducible, they are only observable empirically, and then explainable. They are explainable by attempting to construct them from a sequence of rational operations. If they cannot be constructed, then we cannot construct an existence proof, and as such a statement cannot be possible. It is possible to construct existence proofs for human actions under Keynesianism. But these proofs tell us that such manipulation is an act of deception that causes involuntary transfers (thefts). It is not that such actions are unscientific. As such mises was incorrect. He convused the immoral and the unscientifc. He confused justifiacationism under moral contract, with truth-candidates that survive criticism. This is a non-trivial subject. It is probably one of the most important philosopihical questions that hte 20th century philosophers failed to solve. As did all those before them. But it’s solved now. Mises was just wrong. He was a cosmopolitan, and an austro-hungarian both, and he simple failed. He failed worse than brouwer and bridgman. And because he failed, and Hayek failed, we were subject to a century of deceit. Curt Doolittle The Propertarian Institute Kiev, Ukraine
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“We don’t agree that…”– [W]ell saying we don’t agree is to use a rhetorical f
–“We don’t agree that…”–
[W]ell saying we don’t agree is to use a rhetorical fallacy. Statements are true, false, or incomplete, whether we agree with one another or not. 1) There exist no laws of science itself. There exist, and we have evolved, procedures that we use to eliminate error, bias, wishful thinking and deceit from our hypothesis. These processes do not tell us a statement is true, they tell us only that it remains a truth candidate if it survives that set of criticisms. 2) There exist intuitions, hypothesis, theories, laws, and tautologies, because we have constructed them, and demonstrate them as such. 3) But there exist no non-tautological, yet certain premises: in other words, in any statement of arbitrary precision, we must seek limits, because all general rules possess limits. This is where mises failed by attempting to make use of justificationary Kantian rationalism instead of critical Popperian rationalism:science. Since there are no certain premises there are no certain deductions. Since there are laws we may deduce from them outcomes of equal precision. But if these are imprecise, then so are our deductions. 4) We can construct descriptive statements (theories) that are true, but inactionable, because they lack sufficient precision. A regularity may be so slow (business cycles, political cycles, generation cycles, and civilizational cycles) that no matter what we do within them, it is merely noise. Mises proposition that history is non-regular is based upon the presumption that each exchange is unique because it is both subjective and momentary. But he also proposes that we can empathize (sympathize) with economic statements and thereby test the rationality of any incentive. This pair of propositions constitutes is a logical contradiction. Since we can decide whether an incentive is rational, and we can test the rationality of others decisions (it’s how we test liars in court), then our judgements are marginally indifferent. If they are marginally indifferent, then they can be represented as constants. So at one end of the spectrum, decisions are marginally indifferent and we have tested this in thousands of ways in both economics and experimental psychology. And at the other end his purported axioms (action), and his purported laws (inflation, the neutrality of money, minimum wage) are both sufficiently imprecise as to be inactionable. When in fact, it is possible to produce intentional externalities by intentionally mainpulating these behaviors caused by assymetric information and resource distribution. And we can (quite accurately) measure those distortions. So it is not that these systems are not regular (they are), or that they are not deterministic (they are), or that they are not actionable (they are actionable), and therefore they are scientifically testable. Instead of being impervious to science in the development of general rules, it’s that these actions are immoral: they cause involuntary transfers from people with lower/longer time preference, to those with higher/shorter time preference, and thereby not only steal, but deprive the commons of behavioral change necessary to preserve extended time preference. ie: mises confused a moral theft, with a scientific truth. This is just one of his many failings in developing his pseudoscientific kantian nonsense – for which he was outcast from the profession, justifiably. His second main failing was that he did not grasp that he intuited (as did brouwer in math and bridgman in physics) that praxeology produced proofs of construction, but was insufficient for deduction. A proof of construction is necessary (not only in economics but in mathematics) to demonstrate that an economic statement is existentially possible. It is a means of attempting to falsify a statement. But most economic effects are not deducible, they are only observable empirically, and then explainable. They are explainable by attempting to construct them from a sequence of rational operations. If they cannot be constructed, then we cannot construct an existence proof, and as such a statement cannot be possible. It is possible to construct existence proofs for human actions under Keynesianism. But these proofs tell us that such manipulation is an act of deception that causes involuntary transfers (thefts). It is not that such actions are unscientific. As such mises was incorrect. He convused the immoral and the unscientifc. He confused justifiacationism under moral contract, with truth-candidates that survive criticism. This is a non-trivial subject. It is probably one of the most important philosopihical questions that hte 20th century philosophers failed to solve. As did all those before them. But it’s solved now. Mises was just wrong. He was a cosmopolitan, and an austro-hungarian both, and he simple failed. He failed worse than brouwer and bridgman. And because he failed, and Hayek failed, we were subject to a century of deceit. Curt Doolittle The Propertarian Institute Kiev, Ukraine
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Grid of Cultural Tactics
1) TRUTH AND DECEIT,
2) MASCULINE AND FEMININE,
3) HOMOGENOUS AND HETEROGENEOUS.———————TRUTH——————————
MASCULINE————————-FEMININE
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TEXAS………..GERMAN…………BRITISH
…………………..JAPAN…………….FRENCH
……………………………………………LATIN
AMERICAN………………………….HINDU
…………………..CHINA…………………………..
ISLAM……….. RUSSIA……………JUDAISM
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——————DECEPTION—————
Note that the american/hindu line represents “idealism” more so than deception.
Latins and french are pragmatic. Anglos and Germans ‘truthful’.More later. Just capturing the idea while I’m thinking of it.
Source: (3) Curt Doolittle
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Grid of Cultural Tactics
1) TRUTH AND DECEIT,
2) MASCULINE AND FEMININE,
3) HOMOGENOUS AND HETEROGENEOUS.———————TRUTH——————————
MASCULINE————————-FEMININE
—————————————————————-
TEXAS………..GERMAN…………BRITISH
…………………..JAPAN…………….FRENCH
……………………………………………LATIN
AMERICAN………………………….HINDU
…………………..CHINA…………………………..
ISLAM……….. RUSSIA……………JUDAISM
—————————————————————
——————DECEPTION—————
Note that the american/hindu line represents “idealism” more so than deception.
Latins and french are pragmatic. Anglos and Germans ‘truthful’.More later. Just capturing the idea while I’m thinking of it.
Source: (3) Curt Doolittle
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How To Repair The Western Press?
[R]oman got me thinking last week, about the central difficulty with western press’ reliance on telling both sides of the STATED story, instead of whether they tell the truth given the INCENTIVES of both sides, regardless of what they state. Telling both sides merely gives the liars equal air play as the truth tellers.
And it’s much easier for a ‘journalist’ to report on someone’s feelings, and speech than it is to report on facts and incentives. It’s much easier to create moral outrage or high ground with verbalism that obscures incentives, rather than the incentives themselves. To report ‘scientifically’ is possible with propertarian incentives and testimonial truth. We can systematically criticize what people say, and report on their incentives rather than their propaganda. But that means retraining a lot of ‘journalists’ and eliminating the perverse incentives that we have produced with the popular press. And the press, who free rides on destruction of the informational commons, may not like carrying the burden. On the other hand, we would have a lot fewer ‘journalists’ and they would be highly respected – and highly paid. And I think that’s something all of us would like. -
How To Repair The Western Press?
[R]oman got me thinking last week, about the central difficulty with western press’ reliance on telling both sides of the STATED story, instead of whether they tell the truth given the INCENTIVES of both sides, regardless of what they state. Telling both sides merely gives the liars equal air play as the truth tellers.
And it’s much easier for a ‘journalist’ to report on someone’s feelings, and speech than it is to report on facts and incentives. It’s much easier to create moral outrage or high ground with verbalism that obscures incentives, rather than the incentives themselves. To report ‘scientifically’ is possible with propertarian incentives and testimonial truth. We can systematically criticize what people say, and report on their incentives rather than their propaganda. But that means retraining a lot of ‘journalists’ and eliminating the perverse incentives that we have produced with the popular press. And the press, who free rides on destruction of the informational commons, may not like carrying the burden. On the other hand, we would have a lot fewer ‘journalists’ and they would be highly respected – and highly paid. And I think that’s something all of us would like. -
Choice: Truth vs Lies
[W]E HAVE A CHOICE: Truth and Trade (propertarianism) -versus- Lies and Takings (progressivism) Source: (2) Curt Doolittle
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Choice: Truth vs Lies
[W]E HAVE A CHOICE: Truth and Trade (propertarianism) -versus- Lies and Takings (progressivism) Source: (2) Curt Doolittle
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Names (truth) vs Analogies (deceits)
[A] sequence of operations consists of names. I can name that sequence of operations. An experience or an observation or an imagination of cause and effect is an analogy. Names may or may not convey meaning. THey may or may not convey loadings which we, as moral creatures, feel are terribly important. But operations are names and experiences are analogies. I have a pretty low opinion of meaning. It’s a vehicle for comprehension yes.
But that comprehension is by definition loaded. And loading and framing are means of deceit.Source: (1) Curt Doolittle