Theme: Deception

  • Lying By Willful or Un-Willful Ignorance?

    LYING BY INTENT, OR LYING BY LACKING DISCIPLINE AND AGENCY? FYI: On “Lying” our position is that our genes drive our intuition, and our intuition biases our reason, such that we are constantly negotiating on behalf of our reproductive strategy and are entirely unconscious of it. Therefore we seek to produce ‘agency’ under which we are free of the genes, the intuition(elephant), and that our reason (Rider) is in control. (think of it as a very scientific take on stoicism. So in this sense it is quite easy for people who have not achieved agency (insulation from our genes and intuition) to lie by NOT working sufficiently to possess agency, and therefore remaining an attractor, and distributor of falsehoods (lies). And so just as you must carefully examine your senses to speak honestly, you must carefully develop the skill of truthfulness so that you do not attract and distribute lies and falsehoods. -cheers

  • Lying By Willful or Un-Willful Ignorance?

    LYING BY INTENT, OR LYING BY LACKING DISCIPLINE AND AGENCY? FYI: On “Lying” our position is that our genes drive our intuition, and our intuition biases our reason, such that we are constantly negotiating on behalf of our reproductive strategy and are entirely unconscious of it. Therefore we seek to produce ‘agency’ under which we are free of the genes, the intuition(elephant), and that our reason (Rider) is in control. (think of it as a very scientific take on stoicism. So in this sense it is quite easy for people who have not achieved agency (insulation from our genes and intuition) to lie by NOT working sufficiently to possess agency, and therefore remaining an attractor, and distributor of falsehoods (lies). And so just as you must carefully examine your senses to speak honestly, you must carefully develop the skill of truthfulness so that you do not attract and distribute lies and falsehoods. -cheers

  • The Lies We Seek To Tell: Evolutionary Biases.

    LIES WE SEEK TO TELL: THE BIASES BUILT UPON OUR ANCIENT ‘CIRCUITS’ by William Butchman “the lies they seek to tell” Human bias is interesting. We have evolved machinery in our brains, and we are processing novel situations with these ancient systems, processing things that they were never designed to process. We use these mental models which are simplistic, and when something happens in the universe which breaks our model (because we don’t account for it) we ‘startle’ and a circuit built for snakes is activated. (I don’t know if I have this exactly right, I’ve only heard it once) (From elsewhere:) Why we believe snakes are the most evil things: Dr. Peterson suggested that the reason why we have a particular antipathy towards snakes is because we’ve long been their prey (since our ancestors were tiny rodents). I believe our fear and terror and hatred of snakes might also be particularly strong because they continued to kill us long after we outgrew the other reptilian predators (once you’ve evolved to be monkey-sized, you can handle lizards because you’re big enough to fight them and you can see far enough around you to avoid them. But you can’t see so well around your feet or the topside of tall branches, aka where snakes lurk. The threats we fear most are the ones we can’t see, Snakes happen to fit into all the hard to see places. There’s also something particularly traumatizing about having one of your primate relatives eaten by a snake as opposed to any other predator. Their deaths are the most agonizing. Unlike one of those big cats with teeth evolved to puncture skulls or a wolf that goes for the jugular, snakes kill by poison or suffocation and they swallow prey whole. Oftentimes over the course of several hours. Prior to human inventiveness, I can’t imagine a more torturous and agonizing way to die. Snakes: these surprising dangers that lurk and jump out at us. We startle as we try to assess, an ancient circuit is activated. So, we have a bias to express the unknown, dangers, as snakes. At least this is the evolutionary theory of the prevalence of the mythology. So, I can see (if this is true) how our biases may be built on ancient circuits.

  • The Lies We Seek To Tell: Evolutionary Biases.

    LIES WE SEEK TO TELL: THE BIASES BUILT UPON OUR ANCIENT ‘CIRCUITS’ by William Butchman “the lies they seek to tell” Human bias is interesting. We have evolved machinery in our brains, and we are processing novel situations with these ancient systems, processing things that they were never designed to process. We use these mental models which are simplistic, and when something happens in the universe which breaks our model (because we don’t account for it) we ‘startle’ and a circuit built for snakes is activated. (I don’t know if I have this exactly right, I’ve only heard it once) (From elsewhere:) Why we believe snakes are the most evil things: Dr. Peterson suggested that the reason why we have a particular antipathy towards snakes is because we’ve long been their prey (since our ancestors were tiny rodents). I believe our fear and terror and hatred of snakes might also be particularly strong because they continued to kill us long after we outgrew the other reptilian predators (once you’ve evolved to be monkey-sized, you can handle lizards because you’re big enough to fight them and you can see far enough around you to avoid them. But you can’t see so well around your feet or the topside of tall branches, aka where snakes lurk. The threats we fear most are the ones we can’t see, Snakes happen to fit into all the hard to see places. There’s also something particularly traumatizing about having one of your primate relatives eaten by a snake as opposed to any other predator. Their deaths are the most agonizing. Unlike one of those big cats with teeth evolved to puncture skulls or a wolf that goes for the jugular, snakes kill by poison or suffocation and they swallow prey whole. Oftentimes over the course of several hours. Prior to human inventiveness, I can’t imagine a more torturous and agonizing way to die. Snakes: these surprising dangers that lurk and jump out at us. We startle as we try to assess, an ancient circuit is activated. So, we have a bias to express the unknown, dangers, as snakes. At least this is the evolutionary theory of the prevalence of the mythology. So, I can see (if this is true) how our biases may be built on ancient circuits.

  • Why Do U.s. Americans Give False Comments Of Appreciation?

    America is a high trust society. We allow people to perform below their capacity, or even fail, as long as (a) they try hard, (b) they are honest.

    When an american says something complimentary he is saying, ‘you can trust me to act in your interests even if you are imperfect or fail’, or ‘as long as you are honest and trying hard we will not criticize you, and will only offer advice if asked’.

    In other words, we cannot fix everthing, education of others is costly, education of others may be unwanted, and people getnerally will learn on their own. If you’re adding benefit to something, it is not our place to create more benefit. It is our place only to prevent harm. By preventing harm, most people will achieve success at their own rates, and learn to be independent.

    By this process we “Teach Men to Fish” at their own pace, at their own choice, and we ‘eliminate’ the people who (a) dont try hard (b) aren’t honest. If we instruct people then they learn only to obey commands.

    FWIW: Most of our charity work in the world has caused more harm than good. It is not clear that aside from teaching literacy, and providing health care, that we do any good at all. Although in retrospect, bringing christianity rather than islam has been one of the great achievements of western civilization. Christianity builds commerce and literacy, and islam creates illiteracy ignorance and poverty.

    https://www.quora.com/Why-do-U-S-Americans-give-false-comments-of-appreciation

  • Why Do U.s. Americans Give False Comments Of Appreciation?

    America is a high trust society. We allow people to perform below their capacity, or even fail, as long as (a) they try hard, (b) they are honest.

    When an american says something complimentary he is saying, ‘you can trust me to act in your interests even if you are imperfect or fail’, or ‘as long as you are honest and trying hard we will not criticize you, and will only offer advice if asked’.

    In other words, we cannot fix everthing, education of others is costly, education of others may be unwanted, and people getnerally will learn on their own. If you’re adding benefit to something, it is not our place to create more benefit. It is our place only to prevent harm. By preventing harm, most people will achieve success at their own rates, and learn to be independent.

    By this process we “Teach Men to Fish” at their own pace, at their own choice, and we ‘eliminate’ the people who (a) dont try hard (b) aren’t honest. If we instruct people then they learn only to obey commands.

    FWIW: Most of our charity work in the world has caused more harm than good. It is not clear that aside from teaching literacy, and providing health care, that we do any good at all. Although in retrospect, bringing christianity rather than islam has been one of the great achievements of western civilization. Christianity builds commerce and literacy, and islam creates illiteracy ignorance and poverty.

    https://www.quora.com/Why-do-U-S-Americans-give-false-comments-of-appreciation

  • LIES WE SEEK TO TELL: THE BIASES BUILT UPON OUR ANCIENT ‘CIRCUITS’ by William Bu

    LIES WE SEEK TO TELL: THE BIASES BUILT UPON OUR ANCIENT ‘CIRCUITS’

    by William Butchman

    “the lies they seek to tell”

    Human bias is interesting. We have evolved machinery in our brains, and we are processing novel situations with these ancient systems, processing things that they were never designed to process. We use these mental models which are simplistic, and when something happens in the universe which breaks our model (because we don’t account for it) we ‘startle’ and a circuit built for snakes is activated. (I don’t know if I have this exactly right, I’ve only heard it once)

    (From elsewhere:)

    Why we believe snakes are the most evil things: Dr. Peterson suggested that the reason why we have a particular antipathy towards snakes is because we’ve long been their prey (since our ancestors were tiny rodents). I believe our fear and terror and hatred of snakes might also be particularly strong because they continued to kill us long after we outgrew the other reptilian predators (once you’ve evolved to be monkey-sized, you can handle lizards because you’re big enough to fight them and you can see far enough around you to avoid them. But you can’t see so well around your feet or the topside of tall branches, aka where snakes lurk. The threats we fear most are the ones we can’t see, Snakes happen to fit into all the hard to see places. There’s also something particularly traumatizing about having one of your primate relatives eaten by a snake as opposed to any other predator. Their deaths are the most agonizing. Unlike one of those big cats with teeth evolved to puncture skulls or a wolf that goes for the jugular, snakes kill by poison or suffocation and they swallow prey whole. Oftentimes over the course of several hours. Prior to human inventiveness, I can’t imagine a more torturous and agonizing way to die.

    Snakes: these surprising dangers that lurk and jump out at us. We startle as we try to assess, an ancient circuit is activated. So, we have a bias to express the unknown, dangers, as snakes.

    At least this is the evolutionary theory of the prevalence of the mythology. So, I can see (if this is true) how our biases may be built on ancient circuits.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-03-16 16:51:00 UTC

  • LYING BY INTENT, OR LYING BY LACKING DISCIPLINE AND AGENCY? FYI: On “Lying” our

    LYING BY INTENT, OR LYING BY LACKING DISCIPLINE AND AGENCY?

    FYI: On “Lying” our position is that our genes drive our intuition, and our intuition biases our reason, such that we are constantly negotiating on behalf of our reproductive strategy and are entirely unconscious of it. Therefore we seek to produce ‘agency’ under which we are free of the genes, the intuition(elephant), and that our reason (Rider) is in control. (think of it as a very scientific take on stoicism. So in this sense it is quite easy for people who have not achieved agency (insulation from our genes and intuition) to lie by NOT working sufficiently to possess agency, and therefore remaining an attractor, and distributor of falsehoods (lies). And so just as you must carefully examine your senses to speak honestly, you must carefully develop the skill of truthfulness so that you do not attract and distribute lies and falsehoods. -cheers


    Source date (UTC): 2017-03-16 16:46:00 UTC

  • THE FUNCTION OF PROPERTARIAN GRAMMAR by James Augustus With out factoring in IQ,

    THE FUNCTION OF PROPERTARIAN GRAMMAR

    by James Augustus

    With out factoring in IQ, most humans cannot (or struggle to) separate/deflate intuited self-interest (the elephant) from their perception (solipsism) —which is to say that the average human struggles to launder imaginary content from cognition and so they approach truthfulness as a function of rationalizing intuition.

    Those with masculinized, autistic brains benefit from the decreased cost of laundering imagination & emotional content from our perception, and reporting/testimony thereof. And (we) see the flaws (cognitive biases) in our thinking and especially in the testimony of others. And because of our ‘awareness’, we find it necessary to perform ‘test’/criticisms across multiple dimensions.

    Propertarian grammar boils down to just that—it limits us to constructing arguments that are open to criticism across multiple dimensions: terms/categories, logic, existential possibility, parsimony, full accounting, empirical correspondence, & reciprocity (natural law/social science).

    (Note: A person’s/group epistemological methodology [literary, hermeneutic, mythological, occultist, theological, rationalist, pseudo scientific, asymmetrical empiricism] is most often derivative of the lies they seek to tell.)


    Source date (UTC): 2017-03-16 15:52:00 UTC

  • (from elsewhere) (Note: this fellow, is calling me a pompous, illiterate, autist

    (from elsewhere)

    (Note: this fellow, is calling me a pompous, illiterate, autist. -And I’m offended by the false accusation of illiteracy- But the truthful criticism of my ‘research through prosecution’ is that it’s a violation of reciprocity that we currently assume in our culture of discourse and debate. I use people to conduct tests. Usually against their will. And the reason is that it’s the only way to get demonstrated behavior rather than reported behavior. Anyway, my immorality in pursuit of moral ends aside, and the continued success of this admittedly duplicitous investigatory technique aside, this serves as a record of my technique:

    1 – Look for opportunity to test arguments

    2 – Construct a ‘truthful’ criticism that will bait an argument.

    3 – If you get an engagement in the argument you have found someone intellectually honest enough to continue investigation with.

    4 – Most commonly you will be subject to attacks rather than the argument. Most people are not intellectually honest. Nor do they possess sufficient agency to question their own frames.

    5 – Prosecute the individual’s argument by attempting to force the other person to draw his own honest, correct, and position-changing conclusion. (This is the hard part. Don’t tell them the answer. Get them to draw it themselves.)

    5a – Answer any ridicule with (truthful) accusation of his incentives. The purpose here is to neutralize the adhom’s, and exhaust the emotion.

    5b – Return to the central question by repeating it. We succeed and inform through repetition in ways that even the most well reasoned statements cannot. In addition, the argument doesn’t get lost or distracted from. And moreover, those following the argument are educated through repetition. You will find that repetition succeeds where no other method can. I suggest reprahsing the central argument very slightly each time if you can do so creatively. (which is an art in itself).

    5c – Try to connect it with the moral responsibility for preservation of the informational commons. Insinuate his immorality and if possible, ask why the individual is immoral for not doing due diligence in preservation of the informational commons. OR Try to connect it with why he needs to appeal to false authority rathe than simply providing institutional means for voluntary exchanges.

    6 – just keep iterating (5) above until the emotion is exhausted and his attempts at avoidance are exhausted. It does not matter what conclusion he comes to in the moment. What matters is whether you have influence him a little – or the audience. People are just vehicles for educating the audience, and discovering candidates who themselves might be able to conduct operational arguments.

    )

    ===

    ….Interesting that you would call me illiterate.

    Pompous (actually it’s arrogant), Autism (actually it’s the practice of deflationary truth), and Parasitic (taking advantage of other’s conversations to run experiments) are all true.

    The theory remains: book choices (like cites) function as ability, personality, moral, and evolutionary strategy surveys in ways that self reporting does not. (it is hard to argue with this as evidence of demonstrated preference)

    The central argument remains: of all the books one would choose why does one choose a higher proportion of those that justify postwar moralizing, rather than prewar struggle? (demonstrated preference, paradigm adherence)

    If you want to attack the argument that’s very different from attacking the arguer. If attacking the argument is beyond you (this is how I taunt the persistence of the argument) then thats moral, but by attacking the arguer, that’s immoral.

    If your philosophical position (mine) seeks to test the costs of and means of policing the commons against error, bias, wishful thinking, suggestion, obscurantism, propaganda, and deceit; and if your effort in developing your philosophical position requires testing..

    You see, while debate consists of reciprocal exchanges in pursuit of reciprocal meaning, I do not pursue the act of *prosecution* under the assumption of equality or reciprocity, but instead as a social scientist conducting experiments. In other words, I *use* people like you to run tests (which I’ve been stating openly since 2012 and where my first public experiment was against Kinsella, in which he failed gloriously ). Like fighting, like mathematics, like programming the only way to develop the skill is to practice it.

    I teach people this technique as a means of defeating error, bias, and deceit. For example: https://www.facebook.com/curt.doolittle/posts/10155118766937264

    So by retaining your position of attacking the person rather than the argument you learn nothing, and merely demonstrate that I am correct: that reason is insufficient and therefore the informational commons CAN ONLY be defended from pollution (harm) by the demand for warranty of due diligence.

    You see, what you consider ‘autistic’ is an attempt to create a formal logic that can be incorporated into law, and that will survive constant challenges from critics during legal conflicts.

    So there is no ‘room’ per se, for conflationary experience and analogy that we seek in ‘meaning’, in the demand for deflationary truth that we seek to provide means of decidability (dispute resolution) across networks of meaning.

    There is a very deliberate method to my ‘madness’. And strangely, the fact that I’m open about it, does nothing to change the reaction to it.

    Compare this current ‘educational’ post (comment), with previous ‘prosecutorial’ comments. In this post I’m explaining to you what I am doing and why. In the previous posts I was prosecuting you. This is because in previous posts you were attacking me rather than the argument, and doing so without asking WHY?

    So, now that I have been forthcoming with my experiment upon you, in closing, we are left with a few questions:

    1) Why didn’t you take the original post, labeled in all caps with the word ‘criticism’, as simply information? And ask WHY?

    2) Why did you fall prey to the common criticism of me rather than investigate the tactics?

    4) Who is more pompous illiterate and myopically attached to priors?

    (And, humorously, why would you fail to categorize your book list by theory of man’s nature, and theory of western civilization as I’d proposed – which would demonstrate that I’d been correct in the original post?)

    Thanks for letting me play in your sandbox, and use your involuntarily given test results for the education of myself and others.

    We are all victims of cognitive bias.

    Cheers.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-03-13 10:05:00 UTC