Theme: Deception

  • BTW: Because we had to lie to implement democracy in sufficient numbers to wrest

    BTW: Because we had to lie to implement democracy in sufficient numbers to wrest control from the monarchies.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-04-18 17:13:09 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/854382304759861250

    Reply addressees: @mcmaz1ng @JayMan471 @primalpoly

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/853950076439474178


    IN REPLY TO:

    @Its_Lynnocent

    @curtdoolittle @JayMan471 @gmiller If it was so easy to “deconflate” oh wise truth bearer then explain why do we still live in a world divided and ruled by ideology?

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/853950076439474178

  • TRY NOT TO LOOK TOUGH AND ACT STUPID I’ve had a bunch of these the past few days

    TRY NOT TO LOOK TOUGH AND ACT STUPID

    I’ve had a bunch of these the past few days. I’ll translate them as this: “Don’t talk tough, I’m tougher than you, I’m more alpha, and I want alpha attention, so here are my peacock feathers”. Animal talk. Monkey words.

    —-“Your “interesting” essay showed up on my feed yesterday. When I read such rambunctious call to action, I immediately get interested in the persona. After reading your bio I had two questions: 1) When is the last time you lifted, ran or explosively sprinted? 2) What would you do if, during a test of physical prowess, I slapt that steroid inhaler out of your hands while you are gasping for air? I’m thinking you would Doolittle.”—Andi Mell

    1) This morning I sprinted. It’s spring. It sucked. Explosino isn’t my problem. Hiking isn’t a problem. Toggling between rest and exertion is the problem. Lifting isn’t available to me at the moment.)

    As if it mattered, It doesn’t. It’s a kind of stupid question isn’t it? A sort of claim of equality that doesnt exist? Besides, I’m willing to fight anyone who challenges me over an argument. It’s part of the ethic. But you sure you wanna take a risk with someone that much smarter than you are?

    2) You could have done the same to Marx right? would that have saved 100M deaths? Who is more dangerous? A Marx , an Eisenhower, or a Guy with six inches and thirty pounds on me? I mean, It makes you look kind of stupid right?

    I always think these are childish comments. I mean, who started the revolution? a guy with a gun or a guy with a pen? Who was more powerful? Rousseau or an infrantryman? Who was a better warrior, Napoleon (who was about my build) or some british soldier?

    I know my job. My job is to produce for my people to conduct war, what marx produced to war against my people. Strength in war is the result of strategy, logistics, and numbers.

    Man up to that if you can. (Not gonna happen.)

    Otherwise be a good boy, and learn something.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-04-18 12:05:00 UTC

  • Did priests and prophets teach us to lie? They did

    Did priests and prophets teach us to lie? They did.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-04-18 11:33:00 UTC

  • TRUTH AND LIES All truth is very simple: Deflation and Full Accounting, and abse

    TRUTH AND LIES

    All truth is very simple: Deflation and Full Accounting, and absence of suggestion by consequence.

    The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

    All Lying is very simple: Conflation, and Partial Accounting, and Suggestion.

    No truth, a little truth, not enough truth to require a combination of self substitution and suggestion.

    The problem is that the transfer of meaning is conducted by the same method as lying – because its cheap and independent of prior knowledge in the audience.

    While at the same time the transfer of truthfulness (parsimony: deflated yet fully accounted), is expensive and dependent upon prior knowledge in the audience.

    We suggest by conflation of properties that assist in the formation of free associations, then we deflate until only the truthful associations remain.

    So you get an ‘aha’ moment, if you convey meaning, but then you deflate error from that meaning.

    Or, as popper said, you cast a really wide net to convey meaning, and then you have to filter out all the stuff you didn’t mean to catch.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-04-18 11:14:00 UTC

  • THE EVOLUTION OF LYING: Wisdom Literature > …. Scriptural (Authoritarian) LIte

    THE EVOLUTION OF LYING:

    Wisdom Literature >

    …. Scriptural (Authoritarian) LIterature >

    …. …. Pilpul (Jewish Priests) >

    …. …. …. Hermeneutics (All cults) >

    …. …. …. …. Ideal Rationalism (Plato Aquinas) >

    …. …. …. …. …. Legal Rationalism (everywhere)>

    …. …. …. …. …. …. Kantian Rationalism (europe) >

    …. …. …. …. …. …. …. Marxist Rationalism (spread fast)>

    …. …. …. …. …. …. …. …. Rothbardian Rationalism >

    …. …. …. …. …. …. …. …. Postmodern Pseudo-Rationalism >

    …. …. …. …. …. …. …. …. Postmodern Pseudoscience.

    …. …. …. …. …. …. …. …. Postmodern / Feminist Lying


    Source date (UTC): 2017-04-18 11:01:00 UTC

  • THE EVIL OF COMFORTING LIES I have a thing: I like calculations. I like calculat

    THE EVIL OF COMFORTING LIES

    I have a thing: I like calculations. I like calculative technologies. I like them because they require specialists. And because they require specialists we get fewer idiots claiming they know what they’re talking about.

    why isn’t public speech in politics regulated as highly as a series seven license for example? Or a Legal License? Or a medical license?

    Are you saying that the construction of commons by political mans, backed by violence, is somehow less dangerous or open to misuse than financial predation, legal predation, or medical predation?

    Why is it so hard to imagine a world in which a journalist, in order to publish content for money, would have to be able to write in propertarian language, a propertarian argument, defending his or her position, even if summarizing that argument in an abstract?

    Why is it so hard for a politician to do the same?

    Why can we ship s—t arguments into the commons?


    Source date (UTC): 2017-04-18 10:48:00 UTC

  • THE ORIGINS OF RATIO-DECEPTIONISM – AND ROMAN COUNTER VIA LAW Both the Jews and

    THE ORIGINS OF RATIO-DECEPTIONISM – AND ROMAN COUNTER VIA LAW

    Both the Jews and the Greeks discovered Ratio-Deceptionism. The greeks were treated the same way we treat the Jews today (as skillful liars). But the Romans, from whom we inherit our laws, and our government, actively ridiculed the greeks, used them as we use jews today, and prohibited them from office, and instead adopted the stoicism and empirical law.

    The greeks proliferated ‘ways of thinking’ – advocating markets for preferences, the jews doubled-down on one way of thinking – advocating an authoritarian way of thinking.

    But the Romans, conquering both sets of ‘liars’ did the opposite: there exist ways of not-acting and ways of not-speaking, and ways of not-arguing, that you may not demonstrate – but you may think and choose otherwise however you please. It was their failure to crush religious lies that was their falling.

    In other words, roman social science, like the social science I advocate, was via negativa: law. Why? aristocracy vs peasantry.

    We have, with the scientific enlightenment, continued this tradition to the present – and in the current era, to our detriment.

    The technique is quite simple: Rationalism is easily used to deceive, so when the information is insufficient to decide by rational means, we must gain more information by the empirical (existential). if that information is insufficient to decide by empirical means, we must gain more information by the operational (causal). If that information is insufficient to decide by causal means, then we must gain more information by the full accounting of consequences. If we possess categorical, internal-rational, external empirical, causal operational, fully accounted consequence, then the only means of decidability is PREFERENCE (trade).

    Cheers


    Source date (UTC): 2017-04-18 09:40:00 UTC

  • ROTHBARDIANS ARE EXCEPTIONAL AT DEMONSTRATING THE EVOLUTION OF LYING I love dest

    ROTHBARDIANS ARE EXCEPTIONAL AT DEMONSTRATING THE EVOLUTION OF LYING

    I love destroying Rothbardians. It’s…. it’s such a great way of showing the way that Pilpul > Scriptural Justification > Hermeneutics > Legal Rationalism > and Lying by Rationalism > Lying by Pseudoscience, has evolved from the origins of scriptural monotheism until today.

    Wisdom Literature > Scriptural (Authoritarian) LIterature > Pilpul > Hermeneutics > Legal Rationalism > Kantian Rationalism > Marxist Rationalism > Rothbardian Rationalism > Postmodern Pseudo-Rationalism > Postmodern Pseudoscience.

    THE EVOLUTION OF LYING


    Source date (UTC): 2017-04-18 09:32:00 UTC

  • ANOTHER USEFUL ROTHBARDIAN IDIOT —“> asserts that there can never be a social

    ANOTHER USEFUL ROTHBARDIAN IDIOT

    —“> asserts that there can never be a social order based on private property norms

    > engages in argumentation, thereby demonstrating a preference for and participation in a libertarian social order based on private property norms

    You wrote 10 paragraphs of performative contradiction, but at least you felt cool doing it.”—-Jared Howe

    Interesting how you’d even imagine that such a statement wasn’t anything but profoundly stupid.

    (Not sure I can provide a complete analysis of the fraud of marxist argumentation ethics without writing a whole book but lets at least lay down the outline and show how ridiculous you are – and how useful, educated but unintelligent, idiots are in the cause against possible liberty: Aristocratic Sovereignty)

    1) All humans argue (produce a series of statements for the purpose of persuasion: changing state of another’s behavior.) They argue with ignorance, error, bias, and deciet. They argue with contradictions. They argue with fallacies. They outright lie.

    2) No humans exist in a rothbardian political, social, familial, and personal order wherein the definition and scope of property is limited to physical, intersubjectively verifiable property.

    3) An insignificant portion of populations STATES a preference for a rothbardian order. NO portion of ANY polity DEMONSTRATES a preference for a rothbardian order.

    Why? It is impossible to praxeologically (operationally) argue for the rational construction of a rothbardian order. It does not appear to be able to praxeologically (operationally) argue for the migration of such an order. It appears only possible that a tribal and migratory polity parasitically living off the territorial defenses and juridciald efenses of some other order, might employ this strategy as an ethical basis. Or for separate states to rely upon this form of non-normative, separatist ethics. And, this is what we find. That Rothbardianism is rhetorically similar to international law limited by violence, rather than national law, limited by cooperation.

    Ergo:

    3) engaging in argumentation (Rationalism) cannot demonstrate a preference for, or possibility of, a rothbardian (purely private property) social order. In fact, argumentation then demonstrates a preference for non-rothbardian social orders. In fact, as I argue, rationalism was invented as an extension of pilpul > theological interpretation > legal interpretation, specifically as a method of avoiding empirical evidence – ie: for lying. (ie: Kant/Marx/Rothbart/hoppe). Argumentation ethics then, by extension of this method, and refusal to use the operational and empeirical methods, demonstrates how easy it is to use rationalism to lie.

    4) The reason being that people engage in ignorance, error, bias, wishful thinking, suggestion, obscurantism, propagandism, and deceit – and they must, because argumentation is itself a process of trades consisting of names (categories), properties, relations, values: a negotiation on meaning, and value. Argument, unlike mathematics, does not consists of axioms, but of theories, and hypotheses.

    5) In fact, by the addition of full accounting, and productivity, warranty, and operational definitions to argument (categorical consistency, internal consistency, external consistency and reciprocity: voluntary exchange) we can dramatically improve the truth content of negotiations, producing something much closer to a discourse using laws (not axioms), even if it increases the cost of negotiating, heavily, such that truthful negotiation (argument) is closer to “possible”.

    You see, people do not engage in axiomatic argument, (truth) they engage in hypothetical negotiation (persuasion). Because the rarely if ever possess the information, intellectual agency, and rhetorical technology (or time for that matter) to engage in anything else.

    Argumentation is evidentially self-refuting, if we ourselves argue that argument consists of axiomatic and truthful propositions, rather than a negotiation on meaning and value.

    The means by which we force negotiations (ignorance, error bias and deceit) into something close to argumentation, is by the organized application of violence to demand truthful negotiations and attempt to improve argument from fraud into truth telling; and by doing so create a high trust, and therefore competitively profitable polity (market). The means by which we force negotiations (trades) closer to argument (truths), is through the organized threat of and application of violence prior to the negotiation (denial of violence, theft, and falsehood), during the negotiation (demand for truthfulness), and after the negotiation (violence by dispute resolution).

    People engage in ignorance, error, bias and lie.

    If it isn’t clear, I”m not negotiating, I’m threatening violence so that non-parasitic negotiation with long term returns can be brought into existence, by denying you the opportunity for parasitism that you seek. Otherwise I prefer violence, theft, or fraud, to parasitically exploit you. Because it is only under full reciprocity that you are worth not preying upon.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-04-18 09:26:00 UTC

  • Why Cant We Speak Religion In The Language of Truth?

    If you cannot speak in the language of truth how do we know you do not lie, and how do we know you are capable of making a truth claim? To rationalize is to make excuses. To tell children’s stories is to rationalize by imitation rather than reason. To analogize in history is to offer evidence. To argue in physical and natural law is to offer proof. The truth is forever unknown to us even if we speak it. The best we can do is offer proof that we have performed due diligence against all known alternatives. So we see the simple truth: that simpletons talk in Children’s stories, semi-simpletons in rational excuses, those that argue using wisdom stated historical references, and those that have obtained that wisdom in the laws of nature that cause that history to occur without our comprehension of it at the time. To be christian is to be european, is to follow the law of nature and natural law, in correspondence with reality. To argue in Christan verse is to argue in children’s stories. To argue in rationalism is to argue in excuses. To argue in law and history is to argue basted on the evidence of our actions. To argue in science is to argue in the laws of nature, and in natural law, drawn from that evidence, corresponding to that history, in spite of excuses, and children’s stories. A MAN DOES NOT DEBAT A CHILD, HE RULES CHILDREN FOR THEY ARE NOT READY – THEY LACK AGENCY Have we not transcended? Are we still ignorant, illiterate, poor, lacking knonwledge, technology and institutions? Do we still require morality by children’s story, rather than by literature, history, law, science, and mathematics? Are we admitting we are children and that we are not able to speak and think in the language that the gods have written the universe with? if you speak the truth then why must you lie? The judeo christian of the church constitutes a framing: a lie. Why must you have that lie? Can’t you look at history as a greater story than the children’s story of the myths and superstitions? the chidren’s stories for the dim, the ignorant, and the impoverished? Why aren’t your own histories superior to those? They are. I can speak the words of natural law in the words of jesus(myths), of augustine(wisdom), of plato(ideals), and of aristotle(description). WE can obtain meaning from myth, wisdom and ideals, But I will only argue them in the language of truth: Aristotle. To deny Natural Law is to destroy mankind. Islam and Judaism deny natural law. Natural Law of the West > Laws of Men, Sharia of Islam, Talmud of Jews. Natural Law results in man’s transcendence into gods. Abrahamism, Paul, and Muhammed results in landlessness and parasitism (jews) or mindlessness and parasitism (islam). The god of Abraham is the devil. in order to prevent the poverty of every other civilization, we must develop trust. In order to prevent the stagnation of every other civlization we must develop markets. In order to prevent the fall of our markets and trust we must develop market institutions. In order to prevent the failure of our institutions we must develop methods of measurement. A civilization fails when it can no longer measure success and failure. What must we measure? The treasury? In part. Because it is the first capital to expire. But in sum, all capital. What have we done in the 21st century to our measurements and to our capital?