Theme: Cooperation

  • ELI ON ALTRUISTIC PUNISHMENT —“ALTRUISTIC PUNISHMENT: “I will bear a cost in o

    ELI ON ALTRUISTIC PUNISHMENT

    —“ALTRUISTIC PUNISHMENT: “I will bear a cost in order to impose a cost on someone for imposing costs on others.”

    Directly, no one wins, it’s a lose/lose/lose; costs all the way around.

    Indirectly, we all benefit from the maintenance of a normative commons that discourages people from imposing costs, negative externalities, on others or refraining from contributing to benefits, positive externalities, which are shared.

    This is a common human behavior and it is impossible to understand human behavior, or the evolution of societies and polities, without understanding altruistic punishment.”—


    Source date (UTC): 2014-08-10 09:22:00 UTC

  • UNSOLICITED ALTRUISM —“Unsolicited and unconditional altruism breeds contempt”

    UNSOLICITED ALTRUISM

    —“Unsolicited and unconditional altruism breeds contempt”—Ayelam Valentine Agaliba


    Source date (UTC): 2014-08-08 10:24:00 UTC

  • PERCEPTIONS: FAMILY STRUCTURE, TRUST AND CLASS Protestants practice the Absolute

    http://www.quora.com/Ethnic-and-Cultural-Differences-1/What-are-the-most-difficult-cultural-understandings-the-French-from-France-have-to-face-when-living-in-North-America/answer/Curt-Doolittle?share=1FRENCH PERCEPTIONS: FAMILY STRUCTURE, TRUST AND CLASS

    Protestants practice the Absolute Nuclear Family and the High Trust Society. In the Protestant (northern european) social model, high trust is extended to non-family members. In the catholic countries, they practice the extended family model, and high trust is retained for use only by family members, and not extended to ‘everyone you meet’.

    This explains the size of statism, and the authoritarianism in France, versus the libertarianism and rate of entrepreneurship in Anglo countries. The lower the trust in your polity, the more demand there is for authority to organize society, organize production and prevent conflicts. The more trust in your society, the less need demand (or need) there is for the authoritarian organization of society and production. This explains the difference between anglo high trust absolute nuclear, and french lower-trust extended families.

    Furthermore, as the original question positions, the high trust polity means that it is easier to take advantage of that trust and abuse it. So anglos demonstrate higher Altruistic Punishment of offenders, whereas the French do not.

    To French, Anglos appear to be ‘stupid’ and ‘dishonestly friendly’. And treat family members badly To anglos, the French appear to be ill mannered, if not outright rude, coddle laziness in the family; and the government appears to be predatory and corrupt. (In Quebec, it is possibly true.)

    SOME INTERESTING DATA

    1) In negotiations, who are the least hostile people in the world? Americans, Anglo-Canadians, and Germans. Who are the most hostile people in the world: the French. (The study counts the use of certain categories of words).

    2) In Canada, the Anglo immigrants came largely from the lower middle and middle classes. The French citizens of Quebec came disproportionately from the lower classes. This difference in classes provides greater insight into the different cultures than background alone.

    Curt Doolittle


    Source date (UTC): 2014-08-06 12:12:00 UTC

  • POST-DEMOCRATIC PATRIOTISM: THE ARISTOCRATIC CONTRACT I don’t like the word patr

    POST-DEMOCRATIC PATRIOTISM: THE ARISTOCRATIC CONTRACT

    I don’t like the word patriot, because it suggests fealty to church or state. Instead: the obligation of every man who accepts the aristocratic contract is to deny power to any and all over any and all.

    In this sense patriotism is impossible for members of the aristocracy because it implies a moral choice rather than a necessary contractual obligation to all other members of the aristocratic corporation.


    Source date (UTC): 2014-08-06 02:31:00 UTC

  • What Are The Most Difficult Cultural Understandings The French (from France) Have To Face When Living In North America?

    Protestants practice the Absolute Nuclear Family and the High Trust Society. In the Protestant (northern european) social model, high trust is extended to non-family members.  In the catholic countries, they practice the extended family model, and high trust is retained for use only by family members, and not extended to ‘everyone you meet’. 

    This explains the size of statism, and the authoritarianism in France, versus the libertarianism and rate of entrepreneurship in Anglo countries. The lower the trust in your polity, the more demand there is for authority to organize society, organize production and prevent conflicts.  The more trust in your society, the less need demand (or need) there is for the authoritarian organization of society and production.  This explains the difference between anglo high trust absolute nuclear, and french lower-trust extended families.

    Furthermore, as the original question positions, the high trust polity means that it is easier to take advantage of that trust and abuse it.  So anglos demonstrate higher Altruistic Punishment of offenders, whereas the French do not.

    To French, Anglos appear to be ‘stupid’ and ‘dishonestly friendly’.  And treat family members badly  To anglos, the French appear to be ill mannered, if not outright rude,  coddle laziness in the family; and the government appears to be predatory and corrupt. (In Quebec, it is possibly true.)

    SOME INTERESTING DATA
    1) In negotiations, who are the least hostile people in the world? Americans, Anglo-Canadians, and Germans.  Who are the most hostile people in the world: the French. (The study counts the use of certain categories of words). 

    2) In Canada, the Anglo immigrants came largely from the lower middle and middle classes. The French citizens of Quebec came disproportionately from the lower classes. This difference in classes provides greater insight into the different cultures than background alone.

    Curt Doolittle

    https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-most-difficult-cultural-understandings-the-French-from-France-have-to-face-when-living-in-North-America

  • What Are The Most Difficult Cultural Understandings The French (from France) Have To Face When Living In North America?

    Protestants practice the Absolute Nuclear Family and the High Trust Society. In the Protestant (northern european) social model, high trust is extended to non-family members.  In the catholic countries, they practice the extended family model, and high trust is retained for use only by family members, and not extended to ‘everyone you meet’. 

    This explains the size of statism, and the authoritarianism in France, versus the libertarianism and rate of entrepreneurship in Anglo countries. The lower the trust in your polity, the more demand there is for authority to organize society, organize production and prevent conflicts.  The more trust in your society, the less need demand (or need) there is for the authoritarian organization of society and production.  This explains the difference between anglo high trust absolute nuclear, and french lower-trust extended families.

    Furthermore, as the original question positions, the high trust polity means that it is easier to take advantage of that trust and abuse it.  So anglos demonstrate higher Altruistic Punishment of offenders, whereas the French do not.

    To French, Anglos appear to be ‘stupid’ and ‘dishonestly friendly’.  And treat family members badly  To anglos, the French appear to be ill mannered, if not outright rude,  coddle laziness in the family; and the government appears to be predatory and corrupt. (In Quebec, it is possibly true.)

    SOME INTERESTING DATA
    1) In negotiations, who are the least hostile people in the world? Americans, Anglo-Canadians, and Germans.  Who are the most hostile people in the world: the French. (The study counts the use of certain categories of words). 

    2) In Canada, the Anglo immigrants came largely from the lower middle and middle classes. The French citizens of Quebec came disproportionately from the lower classes. This difference in classes provides greater insight into the different cultures than background alone.

    Curt Doolittle

    https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-most-difficult-cultural-understandings-the-French-from-France-have-to-face-when-living-in-North-America

  • GETING CLOSER : UNIVERSALISM AND HIGH TRUST Integration into a high trust polity

    GETING CLOSER : UNIVERSALISM AND HIGH TRUST

    Integration into a high trust polity, without damage (without parasitism or conquest), requires high trust, which in turn requires, truth telling, the nuclear family with prohibition on cousin marriage, legal enforcement of not only criminal but both ethical and moral prohibitions, codified as property rights, universal standing and loser-pays, use of the common language, eliminating of separatist dress, and celebration of the same holidays, and contributory production.

    Cultural heterogeneity in the sense, that we aggregate into neighborhoods and rely on different rituals and signals within our tribes, is only possible if we adopt all theses high trust constraints.

    The problem is that while we do that and people from every society can volunteer to do that, many people prefer to host in a high trust society as parasites. And for many groups, it is a necessary reproductive advantage. And advantage without which they would be absorbed into the polity at the loss of their identity.

    So in this sense, you can retain your signaling identity but not your reproductive and competitive strategies.

    I think that is enough to separate those who wish to integrate from those who wish to conduct parasitism.

    WE GET AROUND OUR CURSE OF ALTRUISM WITH TRUTH, CALCULABILITY, AND UNIVERSAL ENFORCEMENT BY UNIVERSAL STANDING.


    Source date (UTC): 2014-08-03 03:12:00 UTC

  • THE DEVELOPMENT, DESTRUCTION AND RESTORATION OF TRUTH THE CONSEQUENCES OF TRUTH

    THE DEVELOPMENT, DESTRUCTION AND RESTORATION OF TRUTH

    THE CONSEQUENCES OF TRUTH TELLING

    What we westerners didn’t and don’t understand is the importance of truth telling as constant training for seeing the world in terms that we would eventually call ‘scientific’. And, consequently, if you tell the truth then you require debate to resolve conflicts. If you conduct debate you require reason. If you conduct reason you will eventually require science (evidence). If you conduct science you will eventually run into the problem of observability and scale and require instruments (instrumentalism). You do not require a third party ideal mythology as means of arbitrating rules. If you tell the truth you can use a jury, and do not need a third party authority arbitrating disputes. Instead of a mythology you can construct common laws. If you tell the truth and have common laws you can build trade FASTER than other people build trade. And that is the secret to the west. We started the bronze age later than everyone else, and produce the first steps of the industrial revolution in greece. We were forcibly indoctrinated into authoritarianism under Christianity, but once we rid ourselves of the authoritarianism, we built the second industrial revolution, and dragged the world out of ignorance and poverty in only 500 years.

    Truth telling creates universalism. Just as much as distributed family structures do under manorialism.

    BRIBERY INTO A CULTURE OF LIES

    Meanwhile the utility of not speaking the truth, or speaking in allegory (loaded and framed language) or using overloading to force allegorical speech (monotheistic religion), is a constant competitor to the high cost of truth telling to the individual, but the high value of truth telling to the group.

    So, competitor need only bribe you marginally, and eliminate the punishment for not telling the truth, and eventually, not thinking truthfully, or even, turning lying into a ‘good’, in order easily persuade a population to justify not telling the truth.

    The easiest way to to do that is by overloading: To use the media. Public intellectuals. Academics. Writers. To saturate society with bribes to cease paying the high cost of truth telling.

    The conspiracy against truth telling. Bribery into lying. And funding it with the state redistribution, and entertainment media.

    THE RESTORATION

    The commons is our property. The property of any man who would fight to keep the land upon which we build physical and normative commons. Any shareholder can bring a suit against violations of that property. And under common law we can force the truth. And we can re-habituate truth by prosecuting and punishing liars, and those who create the incentive to lie. There is no difference between a virus that damages hardware and a meme that damages the commons of truth telling. Intellectuals produce products for the commons, and if you are paid for the production of those products then you are open to prosecution for the selling of defective and harmful products.

    Curt Doolittle

    The Philosophy of Aristocracy

    The Propertarian Institute

    Kiev, Ukraine


    Source date (UTC): 2014-07-31 03:21:00 UTC

  • TELLING THE TRUTH VS BUILDING HIGH TRUST An essay on responsibility for speaking

    TELLING THE TRUTH VS BUILDING HIGH TRUST

    An essay on responsibility for speaking the truth, producing the consequence of high trust.


    Source date (UTC): 2014-07-30 13:34:00 UTC

  • You know, our culture, our protestant culture, tells you to suppress all shortcu

    You know, our culture, our protestant culture, tells you to suppress all shortcuts and produce for yourself and the group. That is a very hard norm to create, and a very easy norm to undermine.

    If you sell ‘you can cheat this way’ you can make a profit at it.

    They did.


    Source date (UTC): 2014-07-29 07:24:00 UTC