Theme: Cooperation

  • I want a high trust, moral, ethical, and truthful, and redistributive society. A

    I want a high trust, moral, ethical, and truthful, and redistributive society. And I want room for all the wacky people in this world. They’re a luxury good. I want the ability for the left coasts to do as they will, the heartland as they will. And every variation in between. And I see no reason for continent-wide cultural monopoly that creates conflcit now boiling into hatred, and soon in to civil war. And most importantly, what I don’t want is the continued erosion of Rule of Law, Juridical Law making, and pervasive lying in government, and so I want to wreck it and start over – so we can have both. There are good ways and bad ways of doing things and oppression of one another is not a good way. The constitution was designed to require us to preserve at the state level our differences, and only the common at the federal level. Unfortunately the civil war ended our constitution. But, that said, now that the land grasp of the western continent is over, there is no reason NOT to Devolve the fed. So, let us diversify the culture. And may the best men win.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-03-30 19:52:00 UTC

  • A Short Course In Sociology (Group Cooperation)

    HORIZONTAL CLASS CLASS MEANS REPRODUCTIVE  VALUE https://propertarianinstitute.com/2015/06/29/definition-of-class-reproductive-value/ THREE COERCIVE TECHNOLOGIES AND THE THREE VERTICAL CLASSES (DIAGRAM) https://propertarianinstitute.com/2011/02/15/rock-paper-scissors-three-coercive-technologies-and-three-social-classes/ MORE ON VERTICAL CLASSES https://propertarianinstitute.com/2013/11/26/propertarian-class-theory/ HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL CLASSES https://propertarianinstitute.com/2017/03/17/using-horizontal-and-vertical-classes/ THE INTERTEMPORAL DIVISION OF MORAL PERCEPTION BETWEEN CLASSES (DIAGRAM) https://propertarianinstitute.com/2016/06/19/the-intertemporal-division-of-moral-perception/ THE FUNCTIONS OF THE CLASSES  https://propertarianinstitute.com/2017/03/17/the-functions-of-the-classes-2/ ECONOMIC (POLITICAL) METHODS AS EXPRESSION OF CLASS PHILOSOPHY https://propertarianinstitute.com/2015/11/08/economic-methodologies-as-expressions-of-class-philosophy-and-reproductive-strategy/ IQ EDUCATION AND OCCUPATION https://propertarianinstitute.com/2016/10/01/levels-of-education/   DEFINING MIDDLE CLASS https://propertarianinstitute.com/2016/09/17/qa-curt-what-defines-middle-class/ WHY SO LITTLE CLASS ROTATION? https://propertarianinstitute.com/2014/06/06/why-so-little-social-class-rotation-nature-all-nature/ THE REPRODUCTIVE CLASS HIERARCHY https://propertarianinstitute.com/2016/09/18/reproductive-classes/ — POLITICS — CLASS INTERPRETATIONS OF LIBERTIES https://propertarianinstitute.com/2016/11/24/class-liberties/ CLASSES REQUIRE DIFFERENT ECONOMIES (THERE IS NO SINGLE BEST) https://propertarianinstitute.com/2016/11/25/different-economies-for-different-classes/ THREE ORDERS: KIN, CULT, STATE https://propertarianinstitute.com/2016/11/14/the-three-orders-kin-cult-state/ KIN, CLASS, CASTE POLITICAL SYSTEMS https://propertarianinstitute.com/2016/11/25/kin-class-caste-models-and-functions/ THE MEANS OF RULE – EACH CONTEXT https://propertarianinstitute.com/2017/03/17/series-means-of-rule/ WHY MINORITY RULE IS SUPERIOR TO MAJORITY https://propertarianinstitute.com/2016/10/03/adding-depth-to-talebs-insight-that-minority-rule-is-superior-to-majority/ — MARRIAGE AND CIVILIZATION — THE ORIGINS OF CIVILIZATION, SOVEREIGNTY, PROPERTY, MILITIA, MARRIAGE https://propertarianinstitute.com/2017/03/23/the-origins-of-civilization-militia-property-marriage/ THE IMPORTANCE OF THE INSTITUTION OF MARRIAGE AS COMPROMISE BETWEEN GENDERS – A TRADE. https://propertarianinstitute.com/2015/05/01/on-marriage/ HOW DO FAMILY STRUCTURES VARY? https://propertarianinstitute.com/2014/08/26/how-do-family-structures-vary/ DOMESTICATION BY FAMILY UNIT https://propertarianinstitute.com/2016/10/07/domestication-by-family-unit/ MORALS REFLECT GENETIC DISTANCE https://propertarianinstitute.com/2016/10/15/morals-reflect-genetic-distance/    

  • A Short Course In Sociology (Group Cooperation)

    HORIZONTAL CLASS CLASS MEANS REPRODUCTIVE  VALUE https://propertarianinstitute.com/2015/06/29/definition-of-class-reproductive-value/ THREE COERCIVE TECHNOLOGIES AND THE THREE VERTICAL CLASSES (DIAGRAM) https://propertarianinstitute.com/2011/02/15/rock-paper-scissors-three-coercive-technologies-and-three-social-classes/ MORE ON VERTICAL CLASSES https://propertarianinstitute.com/2013/11/26/propertarian-class-theory/ HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL CLASSES https://propertarianinstitute.com/2017/03/17/using-horizontal-and-vertical-classes/ THE INTERTEMPORAL DIVISION OF MORAL PERCEPTION BETWEEN CLASSES (DIAGRAM) https://propertarianinstitute.com/2016/06/19/the-intertemporal-division-of-moral-perception/ THE FUNCTIONS OF THE CLASSES  https://propertarianinstitute.com/2017/03/17/the-functions-of-the-classes-2/ ECONOMIC (POLITICAL) METHODS AS EXPRESSION OF CLASS PHILOSOPHY https://propertarianinstitute.com/2015/11/08/economic-methodologies-as-expressions-of-class-philosophy-and-reproductive-strategy/ IQ EDUCATION AND OCCUPATION https://propertarianinstitute.com/2016/10/01/levels-of-education/   DEFINING MIDDLE CLASS https://propertarianinstitute.com/2016/09/17/qa-curt-what-defines-middle-class/ WHY SO LITTLE CLASS ROTATION? https://propertarianinstitute.com/2014/06/06/why-so-little-social-class-rotation-nature-all-nature/ THE REPRODUCTIVE CLASS HIERARCHY https://propertarianinstitute.com/2016/09/18/reproductive-classes/ — POLITICS — CLASS INTERPRETATIONS OF LIBERTIES https://propertarianinstitute.com/2016/11/24/class-liberties/ CLASSES REQUIRE DIFFERENT ECONOMIES (THERE IS NO SINGLE BEST) https://propertarianinstitute.com/2016/11/25/different-economies-for-different-classes/ THREE ORDERS: KIN, CULT, STATE https://propertarianinstitute.com/2016/11/14/the-three-orders-kin-cult-state/ KIN, CLASS, CASTE POLITICAL SYSTEMS https://propertarianinstitute.com/2016/11/25/kin-class-caste-models-and-functions/ THE MEANS OF RULE – EACH CONTEXT https://propertarianinstitute.com/2017/03/17/series-means-of-rule/ WHY MINORITY RULE IS SUPERIOR TO MAJORITY https://propertarianinstitute.com/2016/10/03/adding-depth-to-talebs-insight-that-minority-rule-is-superior-to-majority/ — MARRIAGE AND CIVILIZATION — THE ORIGINS OF CIVILIZATION, SOVEREIGNTY, PROPERTY, MILITIA, MARRIAGE https://propertarianinstitute.com/2017/03/23/the-origins-of-civilization-militia-property-marriage/ THE IMPORTANCE OF THE INSTITUTION OF MARRIAGE AS COMPROMISE BETWEEN GENDERS – A TRADE. https://propertarianinstitute.com/2015/05/01/on-marriage/ HOW DO FAMILY STRUCTURES VARY? https://propertarianinstitute.com/2014/08/26/how-do-family-structures-vary/ DOMESTICATION BY FAMILY UNIT https://propertarianinstitute.com/2016/10/07/domestication-by-family-unit/ MORALS REFLECT GENETIC DISTANCE https://propertarianinstitute.com/2016/10/15/morals-reflect-genetic-distance/    

  • Struggling with Eli’s suggestion that we should (I should) be less accommodating

    Struggling with Eli’s suggestion that we should (I should) be less accommodating (kind, considerate) of those with less agency, because they will always, to some degree, be the enemy.

    My view is, that in the search for, and production of, fellow sovereigns, there is no order other than Natural Law’s markets-in-everything, that will allow us to filter (cull), breed (domesticate), train (educate), test (through markets), identify candidates (sovereigns), evolve the animals (human or otherwise), accumulate (capital in all its forms) and defeat the universe (transcend), and do so at a profit (tax, technology, competitive utility).

    I do not think that this argument is defeatable without at the same time saying we lack the ability and therefore agency to possess sovereignty, and transcend.

    So this then is my criticism of my fellows who desire aristocracy. Either we are able or unable – testably – to do such a thing.

    They have, in one century, demonstrated their folly – and the severe consequences for our civilization, our kin, our nations, our race. They have ignored that migrations cause ignorance, dark ages, civilization-cide, and genocide. And they ignore that only western civilization has dragged man out of ignorance, poverty, starvation, disease, and tyranny. And we have failed to be honest in stating that the method was through the forcible domestication of man and woman like we domesticated plants and animals before them.

    Pandora is the root of all evils. It is the violence of men to suppress her and her impulses, men and their impulses, that produces civilization and transcendence.

    We let pandora free. Time again to box her. Along with the host of lies.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-03-26 11:26:00 UTC

  • “Cooperation is preferable when profitable. Otherwise it is cuckoldry”—Micah P

    —“Cooperation is preferable when profitable. Otherwise it is cuckoldry”—Micah Pezdirtz


    Source date (UTC): 2017-03-26 09:13:00 UTC

  • Universalism vs Particularism

    UNIVERSALISM AND PARTICULARISM ARE STRATEGIES @Eli I don’t think universalism has to be ‘taught’. It’s just the rational choice when you are wealthy enough to gamble on the potential to increase the scale of cooperation. Conversely, non-cooperation in a condition of wealth where you forgo opportunities for cooperation is costly. These are evident in all walks of life. I think universalism arises in periods of empire (colonialism) and declines in periods of contraction – and now that the gains of the enlightenment have been equi-distributed across the world, I think that we are in a period of contraction so that particularism is returning to the ‘natural state’ of man. I have been looking at history as progressions through economic phases, and the demand for different abilities at each phase and scale and I see a world where calories are of little coast and consequence but VALUE to one another is reduced to zero OTHER than political value. This is what we are ‘intuiting’. This is a ‘return to normal’ so to speak.

  • Universalism vs Particularism

    UNIVERSALISM AND PARTICULARISM ARE STRATEGIES @Eli I don’t think universalism has to be ‘taught’. It’s just the rational choice when you are wealthy enough to gamble on the potential to increase the scale of cooperation. Conversely, non-cooperation in a condition of wealth where you forgo opportunities for cooperation is costly. These are evident in all walks of life. I think universalism arises in periods of empire (colonialism) and declines in periods of contraction – and now that the gains of the enlightenment have been equi-distributed across the world, I think that we are in a period of contraction so that particularism is returning to the ‘natural state’ of man. I have been looking at history as progressions through economic phases, and the demand for different abilities at each phase and scale and I see a world where calories are of little coast and consequence but VALUE to one another is reduced to zero OTHER than political value. This is what we are ‘intuiting’. This is a ‘return to normal’ so to speak.

  • Chasing Down ‘Libertarian’ Smells

    CHASING DOWN ‘LIBERTARIAN’ (free rider) SMELLS Matt Mitchell —“Curt, is there anything in particular that I said that goes against what you said? For markets to function there needs to be a particular order in the first place, right? Things can change in time, yes, though there are things that do not change or are unlikely to change. Forcing people to live one way or the other, doesn’t help in any way.”—

    Curt Doolittle Hmmm…. well, you know, I have a job right? And in my job I look for opportunities to encourage people to think ‘completely’. So to some degree I’m just ‘riffing’ off your post to get people to think. But in the context of your post, you are implying steady state, homogeneity, and religious authority necessary to indoctrinate those beliefs – when people merely choose the beliefs that suit their circumstances. So that I felt the need to do was to remind you and others, that we are not agrarians any longer. That the world of modern urbanity is much more like living as diasporic tribes floating between city-markets, trading our goods (skills, labor), and that we do not have the steady state, the homogeneity, or the ability to indoctrinate under these conditions, and as such we can only struggle to impose limits and exceptions (laws) in a jurisdiction, not ‘regularities’ (beliefs). So I was reacting to a ‘libertarian smell’, and ‘false assumption’ smell to your argument. Trade always existed. Cities were created by violence. Markets were created by violence. Trade routes were created by violence. More violence than the thieves could muster to prey upon them. The truth is, we have to fight. And that’s all there is to it. So what is the social order that both allows us to fight and eliminates the need to fight? Rule of law. So yes, forcing people to live under increasing suppression of parasitism is unquestionably in all of history a ‘good’. It may in fact, be the good that produces the highest returns of all. Even more so than the division of labor. Because it is the first good that makes the division of labor possible. 😉 Force, fire, water, air, and words, are good things put to good purpose. Or bad things put to bad purpose. They are not intrinsically good or bad. ———–definition———– “Code smell”, also known as bad smell, in computer programming code, refers to any symptom in the source code of a program that possibly indicates a deeper problem. According to Martin Fowler, “a code smell is a surface indication that usually corresponds to a deeper problem in the system”.
  • Chasing Down ‘Libertarian’ Smells

    CHASING DOWN ‘LIBERTARIAN’ (free rider) SMELLS Matt Mitchell —“Curt, is there anything in particular that I said that goes against what you said? For markets to function there needs to be a particular order in the first place, right? Things can change in time, yes, though there are things that do not change or are unlikely to change. Forcing people to live one way or the other, doesn’t help in any way.”—

    Curt Doolittle Hmmm…. well, you know, I have a job right? And in my job I look for opportunities to encourage people to think ‘completely’. So to some degree I’m just ‘riffing’ off your post to get people to think. But in the context of your post, you are implying steady state, homogeneity, and religious authority necessary to indoctrinate those beliefs – when people merely choose the beliefs that suit their circumstances. So that I felt the need to do was to remind you and others, that we are not agrarians any longer. That the world of modern urbanity is much more like living as diasporic tribes floating between city-markets, trading our goods (skills, labor), and that we do not have the steady state, the homogeneity, or the ability to indoctrinate under these conditions, and as such we can only struggle to impose limits and exceptions (laws) in a jurisdiction, not ‘regularities’ (beliefs). So I was reacting to a ‘libertarian smell’, and ‘false assumption’ smell to your argument. Trade always existed. Cities were created by violence. Markets were created by violence. Trade routes were created by violence. More violence than the thieves could muster to prey upon them. The truth is, we have to fight. And that’s all there is to it. So what is the social order that both allows us to fight and eliminates the need to fight? Rule of law. So yes, forcing people to live under increasing suppression of parasitism is unquestionably in all of history a ‘good’. It may in fact, be the good that produces the highest returns of all. Even more so than the division of labor. Because it is the first good that makes the division of labor possible. 😉 Force, fire, water, air, and words, are good things put to good purpose. Or bad things put to bad purpose. They are not intrinsically good or bad. ———–definition———– “Code smell”, also known as bad smell, in computer programming code, refers to any symptom in the source code of a program that possibly indicates a deeper problem. According to Martin Fowler, “a code smell is a surface indication that usually corresponds to a deeper problem in the system”.
  • CHASING DOWN ‘LIBERTARIAN’ (free rider) SMELLS Matt Mitchell —“Curt, is there

    CHASING DOWN ‘LIBERTARIAN’ (free rider) SMELLS

    Matt Mitchell

    —“Curt, is there anything in particular that I said that goes against what you said? For markets to function there needs to be a particular order in the first place, right? Things can change in time, yes, though there are things that do not change or are unlikely to change. Forcing people to live one way or the other, doesn’t help in any way.”—

    Curt Doolittle

    Hmmm…. well, you know, I have a job right? And in my job I look for opportunities to encourage people to think ‘completely’. So to some degree I’m just ‘riffing’ off your post to get people to think. But in the context of your post, you are implying steady state, homogeneity, and religious authority necessary to indoctrinate those beliefs – when people merely choose the beliefs that suit their circumstances.

    So that I felt the need to do was to remind you and others, that we are not agrarians any longer. That the world of modern urbanity is much more like living as diasporic tribes floating between city-markets, trading our goods (skills, labor), and that we do not have the steady state, the homogeneity, or the ability to indoctrinate under these conditions, and as such we can only struggle to impose limits and exceptions (laws) in a jurisdiction, not ‘regularities’ (beliefs).

    So I was reacting to a ‘libertarian smell’, and ‘false assumption’ smell to your argument.

    Trade always existed. Cities were created by violence. Markets were created by violence. Trade routes were created by violence. More violence than the thieves could muster to prey upon them.

    The truth is, we have to fight. And that’s all there is to it. So what is the social order that both allows us to fight and eliminates the need to fight?

    Rule of law.

    So yes, forcing people to live under increasing suppression of parasitism is unquestionably in all of history a ‘good’. It may in fact, be the good that produces the highest returns of all. Even more so than the division of labor. Because it is the first good that makes the division of labor possible.

    😉

    Force, fire, water, air, and words, are good things put to good purpose. Or bad things put to bad purpose. They are not intrinsically good or bad.

    ———–definition———–

    “Code smell”, also known as bad smell, in computer programming code, refers to any symptom in the source code of a program that possibly indicates a deeper problem. According to Martin Fowler, “a code smell is a surface indication that usually corresponds to a deeper problem in the system”.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-03-25 13:29:00 UTC