Curt Doolittle

Theme: Cooperation

  • “With high trust we have beneficial social momentum (other people’s predictable

    —“With high trust we have beneficial social momentum (other people’s predictable actions), which is what energy is, a source of momentum we can use to our benefit.”—Steve Pender

    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-17 14:38:00 UTC

  • “With high trust we have beneficial social momentum (other people’s predictable

    —“With high trust we have beneficial social momentum (other people’s predictable actions), which is what energy is, a source of momentum we can use to our benefit.”—Steve Pender

    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-17 14:37:00 UTC

  • (Yes, trade unions are necessary and beneficial. Non trade unions (clerical) are

    (Yes, trade unions are necessary and beneficial. Non trade unions (clerical) are not. And collective bargaining (blackmail) is not. )

    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-17 12:38:00 UTC

  • but rarely if ever for a group. Just the opposite. At least, I can’t find any ev

    … but rarely if ever for a group. Just the opposite. At least, I can’t find any evidence of it in history. At some point reciprocity within limits of proportionality are necessary to prevent defection or limit one’s replacement (assassination).

    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-16 21:01:35 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1184575137074548741

    Reply addressees: @MattPirkowski

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1184574304366845952

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    @MattPirkowski Economic (productive) is not a necessity (‘square’) however unproductive (false, irreciprocal, parasitic, predatory) does (‘square’) in-group, while such questions as ethics and morality are then meaningless out-group. In other words, predation is always adaptive for some…

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1184574304366845952

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    @curtdoolittle

    @MattPirkowski Economic (productive) is not a necessity (‘square’) however unproductive (false, irreciprocal, parasitic, predatory) does (‘square’) in-group, while such questions as ethics and morality are then meaningless out-group. In other words, predation is always adaptive for some…

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1184574304366845952

  • What does Moral mean? It can only mean reciprocity (voluntary exchange) within l

    What does Moral mean? It can only mean reciprocity (voluntary exchange) within limits of proportionality (defection). Normative morals vary because reciprocal traditions vary. Personal moral bias is just a demonstration of Class, Gender, Gender Expression and Sexual Market Value.

    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-15 22:00:15 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1184227513150726144

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1184227512332836864

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    Kate: study physics, economics, cognitive science, and developmental biology emphasizing gender and class differences. Then study the differences in mental illness, anti-social behavior, and conflict between men and women instead of philosophy: the language of sophism and deceit.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1184227512332836864

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    @curtdoolittle

    Kate: study physics, economics, cognitive science, and developmental biology emphasizing gender and class differences. Then study the differences in mental illness, anti-social behavior, and conflict between men and women instead of philosophy: the language of sophism and deceit.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1184227512332836864

  • AND THE STORE OF TRUST by @[1013719133:2048:Luke Weinhagen] ( CD: I’m Sharing be

    https://standard.co.uk/lifestyle/books/jonathan-haidt-the-coddling-of-the-american-mind-a4261081.htmlSCALE AND THE STORE OF TRUST

    by @[1013719133:2048:Luke Weinhagen]

    ( CD: I’m Sharing because of this bit of genius:

    —“The system can not scale beyond its ability to generate and store trust and begins to fail immediately when the extraction of stored trust exceeds the production of trust. That store can act as a buffer during a period of backsliding (and can enable a lot of really destructive behavior in the guise of “tolerance”), but it will not save us.”— @[1013719133:2048:Luke Weinhagen]

    )

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    —-“We came out of a century that had some of the worst horrors in history but which made extraordinary progress on almost every conceivable front in the decades afterwards, and now we’re backsliding.” — Jon Haidt

    Putting this in the context I’ve been building over the last couple weeks, the “progress” Haidt is describing (from my perspective) are the mechanisms we developed to foster the development of trust that became possible through the shared exposure to those horrors.

    I agree with both Haidt and Doolittle in that the outcome of this backsliding in inevitable should it continue. The lesson will impose itself. Whether we learn from it, kindly or not, is another matter.

    Looking at Curt’s response in the same context I’ve been using –

    “…conspicuous consumption of compromises between genes, gender, class, and interests” = extraction of trust.

    “…cooperative necessity in social orders…” = mechanisms for the production of trust

    The system can not scale beyond its ability to generate and store trust and begins to fail immediately when the extraction of stored trust exceeds the production of trust. That store can act as a buffer during a period of backsliding (and can enable a lot of really destructive behavior in the guise of “tolerance”), but it will not save us.

    “Domestication” is the process of transcendence from each of the lower foundational rules of human interaction to the next higher form of interaction/expansion of the capacity to store trust.

    THE FOUNDATIONS

    1. Via Positiva: ……. The Golden Rule.

    2. Via Negativa: ….. The Silver Rule.

    3. Via Logica: ……….The Natural Law of Reciprocity.

    4. Via Existentia: …. Rule of Law,

    ………………………….. … The Jury, and

    ………………………….. … Markets in everything.

    5. Via Violentia: …. The Iron Rule. Might Makes Right.

    Both of these texts are worth a read when you get a chance. – Luke WeinhagenUpdated Oct 15, 2019, 2:22 PM

    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-15 14:22:00 UTC

  • 4) But cooperative necessity in social orders, like gravity in physical orders,

    4) But cooperative necessity in social orders, like gravity in physical orders, is inescapable – and resistance is expected but ultimately futile. Your mistake is confusing PROGRESS with CONSUMPTION. And confusing OPPRESSION with DOMESTICATION.

    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-15 13:56:48 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1184105849666584577

    Reply addressees: @JonHaidt @EveningStandard

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1184105414046162946

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    @JonHaidt @EveningStandard 3) The left is by demonstrated preference cognitively feminine: consumptive, reproductive, maternal, the right masculine: conservative, capital producing, paternal. And women resist tightening the belt more than men do. So you will continue to tighten your belt and resist it all.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1184105414046162946

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    @curtdoolittle

    @JonHaidt @EveningStandard 3) The left is by demonstrated preference cognitively feminine: consumptive, reproductive, maternal, the right masculine: conservative, capital producing, paternal. And women resist tightening the belt more than men do. So you will continue to tighten your belt and resist it all.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1184105414046162946

  • THE ECONOMICS OF FEMALE MATE SELECTION Women voluntarily pair with men, (a) to d

    THE ECONOMICS OF FEMALE MATE SELECTION

    Women voluntarily pair with men, (a) to defend against involuntary pairing with other men; (b)to gain access to resource and defense, (c) status (market value) largely among women, (d) to capture genes, attention and resources and keep them away from other women, (e) mates will sacrifice more than all other combined except mothers for children (ie: friendship), (f) cooperation is disproportionately more productive than all other individual actions.

    This produces the emotional reaction of friendship: ready access to attention and care. Our emotions evolved to inform us that these are the optimum actions.

    Marriage is only an optimum under property. As we can see reversing in modernity. Successful people with assets stay together. Poor without them far less so. I can explain that also but it’s not very ‘nice’.

    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-14 10:12:00 UTC

  • WE AREN’T ENEMIES, NOT IN THE LEAST, UNITED BY NATURAL LAW —“No, neither of us

    WE AREN’T ENEMIES, NOT IN THE LEAST, UNITED BY NATURAL LAW

    —“No, neither of us advocates forcing people to believe anything. All we demand is that due diligence against error, bias and deceit be made in all speech to public (commercial, academic, political etc.). All this means for Christians is to either keep their faith a private matter or, if they feel the need to speak about matters of faith to public, to do so only as a matter of faith, with no pretense of speaking an objective truth. … We’re not enemies, not in the slightest. We just have to agree that the natural law is what unites us.”– Martin Štěpán

    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-12 20:32:00 UTC

  • YOU MUST BEGIN WITH A HIGH TRUST POLITY by Bill Joslin I would take the discussi

    YOU MUST BEGIN WITH A HIGH TRUST POLITY

    by Bill Joslin

    I would take the discussion of Trust a step further.

    Law and contract eliminate the NEED for trust. However, law and contract that results in this, can only emerge out of a polity that has established high trust in their informal institutions.

    (which is why, if you introduce a low trust population into the mix, law shifts from rule of law (system which constrains arbitrary discretion) to rule by law (arbitrary discretion hidden behind a mask of calculation).

    The low trust population erodes the informal institutions which results in a demand for formal institutions to fill the gap.

    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-12 19:48:00 UTC