Theme: Constitutional Order

  • Notes for John Mark Interview – Part 7

    So is it accurate to say that full-franchise democracy is a disaster, we need to limit who gets to vote, and at the same time people can have representation, but those representatives need to be negotiating with each other within the bounds of reciprocity, not violating reciprocity? Anything you would change or add to that statement?

    The only thing I would add is that it’s not clear at all that our experiment in expanding the franchise has been valuable at all. It’s pretty clear from the historical record that monarchies did a better job of governance at far lower costs, and thats partly by denying people access to political power used to circumvent the market, and instead, forcing them to obtain status in the commercial and aesthetic market. The fact that the middle class had to struggle to modify government as economics returns changed from land to industry and from aristocracy to burgher was simple a rational failure of the people of the time to understand the macro level of the transformation. All that was necessary was adding another house to the government. And this is the general trend we should have followed. More ‘houses’ rather than parties. Access to political power in the via-negativa provides defense against a state with policies coherent or not. Access to political power via positiva eliminates the suppression of the use of government for non-market functions, and creates a war of all against all. The mistake in history is that inclusive government should consist of via positiva rather than via-negativa (veto) or juridical (Assent or Veto) rather than the construction of policy. The problem is via positiva franchise must and dose create opportunity for corruption and deceit which is what we have seen throughout the democratic era. The ability for nations to compete by the use of the state to produce commons of internationally competitive value. Direct production of commons by the people by economic vote does put tremendous pressure on institutions that provide public services, just as privatization of public services provides incentive. What we have seen however is that privatization of public services – namely prisons and transportation, do not work as anticipated, since the state is as bad a customer of services as it is a vendor of services. However, we can change the market such that the people economically vote for institutions that are not institutions within the domain of insurer of last resort, but preferential or those that provide customer services. Intellectual work prior to the majority democratic era is not pseudoscientific of sophist, while intellectual work after the majority democratic era is far superior, because the market for deceits in politics doesn’t exist. Worse we have lost the ability to use the market for suppression of parasitism against out politicians, judges, and enforcement personnel. While at the same time making a policeman’s job almost impossible. The more obvious solutions depend on the caliber of the population and The classes. It’s not even clear we need a single market economy. There is no reason we don’t have a socialistic economy for the working and laboring classes, a market economy for the middle and upper classes, a venture economy funded by the state for the research classes, and a gratitude economy funded by say a monarchy for the artistic classes. We hae element of these already but they are all half truths. The problem is one of conducting trades, and doing so by a full accounting of costs and returns. If people knew the returns on investment in military technology for example, they would have no problem funding it. They don’t tho. Most states retain the wealth of their innovations. We give it away to entrepreneurs. There is no reason we do that. We can just retain some small interest in the profits of entrepreneurial ventures, as returns on our research and development gambles – it’s all gambling. So the general rule of political orders is that the franchise increases in either: – via positiva choice of commons by equalitarian vote, where majoritarian rules of some percentage pass (monopoly model) – via-positiva egalitarian vote of economic contribution, where any funded proposal will pass (market model) – via-negativa veto or assent of any given proposal by the state. And via positiva dissolution of the state (meaning the board of directors, or in the case of the state the cabinet). I have also suggested that we could return to antiquity and create a juridical via negativa government, and a commons producing via positiva government, and a via positiva social insurance government and let the market the commons and the insurance compete for people’s resources. This would come closest to restoring the judiciary and the market, the state and the military, and the church and the masses. Anything at all to restore the markets and eliminate the monopolies. But all of these permutations are contingent upon the suppression of falsehood and ir-reciprocity in public speech. And of course the only limiting factor we have is christians – which is our only material problem as an ethnicity. The christians will not tolerate constraint on public speech to the public (even though they are so constrained today) even in exchange for a monopoly on religion, and return to political control of family, education and welfare. Which was my hope. But the christians apparently want to fail along with the catholic church by not separating the spiritual from the material in public speech. For the united states I’ve proposed one in which in limited form restores the british empire, which is the optimum choice for western civilization, devolves the federal government to functions of insurer of last resort – eliminating it from social policy, re-organizes the states by converting all cities over 300k people to city states, leaving the choice of state formation to the counties, since counties already have governments,,and the voluntary choice of the districts on a district by district level, to join existing counties or form new ones. This process guts both the federal via-positiva bureaucracy, and the state via-positiva bureaucracy. The result of which is converting the USA to old europe, and probably successfully ending the attempt of europe to convert into a strong central government like the USA. My hope is that between the monarchies of europe and the size of the us-british military, and the british, american, canadian, australian, and new zealand collective bargaining on military and trade matters, that we would reverse the great crime of the 20th century which was the fall of the british empire for failing to grasp that the ascent of germany into continental dominance was a defense against the east, and south. This would give english speaking europe greater power than even the chinese, maintain american interest in bearing the cost of blue water navies, and leave western europe exposed as a weak peninsula, forcing either the horrid french or the virtuous germans to reinvest in security. I do not see much value in via positiva politics under this model, (nor did the british monarchy). But there is value in via-negativa politics, requiring approval. A monarchy can easily pull talent from around the world to work for it. This would perform military and trade at the highest level, insurance betlow that, preserve local custom (‘liberty’), and give precedent to local custom over regional and national except where in conflict with truth and reciprocity. In other words, as long as it’s true and reciprocal anyone can do it, and that just means all local policy is constructed as a contract of exchanges rather than issued commands. Assuming that taxes are paid to local, state (National), and federal(imperial) levels, then we have restored the marketplace of political systems in which we compete for people we want to live with and work with. This would restore our ancestral strategy of the church as a weak judiciary over a large set of small homogenous nation states, but this time with a military capable of power projection across the empire and insurer of last resort services to vast numbers of people. Meanwhile individual states producing those commons most suitable to their populations and their cultures and their traditions producing identities we all crave, in small enough populations that none of us is too far distant from power (power distance and status are related). There is no model superior to the swiss so to speak. Every other alternative is some variation of this strategy with less ambitious objectives.

  • Notes for John Mark Interview – Part 7

    So is it accurate to say that full-franchise democracy is a disaster, we need to limit who gets to vote, and at the same time people can have representation, but those representatives need to be negotiating with each other within the bounds of reciprocity, not violating reciprocity? Anything you would change or add to that statement?

    The only thing I would add is that it’s not clear at all that our experiment in expanding the franchise has been valuable at all. It’s pretty clear from the historical record that monarchies did a better job of governance at far lower costs, and thats partly by denying people access to political power used to circumvent the market, and instead, forcing them to obtain status in the commercial and aesthetic market. The fact that the middle class had to struggle to modify government as economics returns changed from land to industry and from aristocracy to burgher was simple a rational failure of the people of the time to understand the macro level of the transformation. All that was necessary was adding another house to the government. And this is the general trend we should have followed. More ‘houses’ rather than parties. Access to political power in the via-negativa provides defense against a state with policies coherent or not. Access to political power via positiva eliminates the suppression of the use of government for non-market functions, and creates a war of all against all. The mistake in history is that inclusive government should consist of via positiva rather than via-negativa (veto) or juridical (Assent or Veto) rather than the construction of policy. The problem is via positiva franchise must and dose create opportunity for corruption and deceit which is what we have seen throughout the democratic era. The ability for nations to compete by the use of the state to produce commons of internationally competitive value. Direct production of commons by the people by economic vote does put tremendous pressure on institutions that provide public services, just as privatization of public services provides incentive. What we have seen however is that privatization of public services – namely prisons and transportation, do not work as anticipated, since the state is as bad a customer of services as it is a vendor of services. However, we can change the market such that the people economically vote for institutions that are not institutions within the domain of insurer of last resort, but preferential or those that provide customer services. Intellectual work prior to the majority democratic era is not pseudoscientific of sophist, while intellectual work after the majority democratic era is far superior, because the market for deceits in politics doesn’t exist. Worse we have lost the ability to use the market for suppression of parasitism against out politicians, judges, and enforcement personnel. While at the same time making a policeman’s job almost impossible. The more obvious solutions depend on the caliber of the population and The classes. It’s not even clear we need a single market economy. There is no reason we don’t have a socialistic economy for the working and laboring classes, a market economy for the middle and upper classes, a venture economy funded by the state for the research classes, and a gratitude economy funded by say a monarchy for the artistic classes. We hae element of these already but they are all half truths. The problem is one of conducting trades, and doing so by a full accounting of costs and returns. If people knew the returns on investment in military technology for example, they would have no problem funding it. They don’t tho. Most states retain the wealth of their innovations. We give it away to entrepreneurs. There is no reason we do that. We can just retain some small interest in the profits of entrepreneurial ventures, as returns on our research and development gambles – it’s all gambling. So the general rule of political orders is that the franchise increases in either: – via positiva choice of commons by equalitarian vote, where majoritarian rules of some percentage pass (monopoly model) – via-positiva egalitarian vote of economic contribution, where any funded proposal will pass (market model) – via-negativa veto or assent of any given proposal by the state. And via positiva dissolution of the state (meaning the board of directors, or in the case of the state the cabinet). I have also suggested that we could return to antiquity and create a juridical via negativa government, and a commons producing via positiva government, and a via positiva social insurance government and let the market the commons and the insurance compete for people’s resources. This would come closest to restoring the judiciary and the market, the state and the military, and the church and the masses. Anything at all to restore the markets and eliminate the monopolies. But all of these permutations are contingent upon the suppression of falsehood and ir-reciprocity in public speech. And of course the only limiting factor we have is christians – which is our only material problem as an ethnicity. The christians will not tolerate constraint on public speech to the public (even though they are so constrained today) even in exchange for a monopoly on religion, and return to political control of family, education and welfare. Which was my hope. But the christians apparently want to fail along with the catholic church by not separating the spiritual from the material in public speech. For the united states I’ve proposed one in which in limited form restores the british empire, which is the optimum choice for western civilization, devolves the federal government to functions of insurer of last resort – eliminating it from social policy, re-organizes the states by converting all cities over 300k people to city states, leaving the choice of state formation to the counties, since counties already have governments,,and the voluntary choice of the districts on a district by district level, to join existing counties or form new ones. This process guts both the federal via-positiva bureaucracy, and the state via-positiva bureaucracy. The result of which is converting the USA to old europe, and probably successfully ending the attempt of europe to convert into a strong central government like the USA. My hope is that between the monarchies of europe and the size of the us-british military, and the british, american, canadian, australian, and new zealand collective bargaining on military and trade matters, that we would reverse the great crime of the 20th century which was the fall of the british empire for failing to grasp that the ascent of germany into continental dominance was a defense against the east, and south. This would give english speaking europe greater power than even the chinese, maintain american interest in bearing the cost of blue water navies, and leave western europe exposed as a weak peninsula, forcing either the horrid french or the virtuous germans to reinvest in security. I do not see much value in via positiva politics under this model, (nor did the british monarchy). But there is value in via-negativa politics, requiring approval. A monarchy can easily pull talent from around the world to work for it. This would perform military and trade at the highest level, insurance betlow that, preserve local custom (‘liberty’), and give precedent to local custom over regional and national except where in conflict with truth and reciprocity. In other words, as long as it’s true and reciprocal anyone can do it, and that just means all local policy is constructed as a contract of exchanges rather than issued commands. Assuming that taxes are paid to local, state (National), and federal(imperial) levels, then we have restored the marketplace of political systems in which we compete for people we want to live with and work with. This would restore our ancestral strategy of the church as a weak judiciary over a large set of small homogenous nation states, but this time with a military capable of power projection across the empire and insurer of last resort services to vast numbers of people. Meanwhile individual states producing those commons most suitable to their populations and their cultures and their traditions producing identities we all crave, in small enough populations that none of us is too far distant from power (power distance and status are related). There is no model superior to the swiss so to speak. Every other alternative is some variation of this strategy with less ambitious objectives.

  • The Difference is LAW not GOVERNMENT

    The Difference is LAW not GOVERNMENT https://propertarianism.com/2019/09/15/the-difference-is-law-not-government/


    Source date (UTC): 2019-09-15 13:12:19 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1173223017608110080

  • The Difference is LAW not GOVERNMENT

    Just to clarify, it’s our LAW, not our GOVERNMENT that creates anglodom’s excellence:  the exclusivity of Tort, meaning ‘Trespass’ – the natural law of reciprocity – that libertarians pretend under Non-Aggression is some innovation on their part,rather than a sophism to entice useful idiots into a moral and arbitrary definition of trespass rather than an empirical one evolved from thousands of years of evidence – a law that has been the basis of western civilization since the western indo-european expansion. This is an unconstrained vision of the law, in which we do not limit people’s experimentation (we do not exercise prior restraint) we only punish trespass, tort, imposition of costs upon the demonstrated interests of others.  And we punish in court, which is terribly expensive, and can be horridly expensive if the jury finds you greedy, dishonest, or immoral. What makes america great is our LAW. What makes it NOT GREAT is our government.

  • The Difference is LAW not GOVERNMENT

    Just to clarify, it’s our LAW, not our GOVERNMENT that creates anglodom’s excellence:  the exclusivity of Tort, meaning ‘Trespass’ – the natural law of reciprocity – that libertarians pretend under Non-Aggression is some innovation on their part,rather than a sophism to entice useful idiots into a moral and arbitrary definition of trespass rather than an empirical one evolved from thousands of years of evidence – a law that has been the basis of western civilization since the western indo-european expansion. This is an unconstrained vision of the law, in which we do not limit people’s experimentation (we do not exercise prior restraint) we only punish trespass, tort, imposition of costs upon the demonstrated interests of others.  And we punish in court, which is terribly expensive, and can be horridly expensive if the jury finds you greedy, dishonest, or immoral. What makes america great is our LAW. What makes it NOT GREAT is our government.

  • When the left obtained enough control of the democrats that the south ended the

    When the left obtained enough control of the democrats that the south ended the prohibition on the party of lincoln, the balance ended – it was deterministic. First past the post would have to end. Senate restored. No option except extremes: top and bottom against the middle.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-09-14 20:28:30 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1172970398918615042

    Reply addressees: @karlbykarlsmith

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1172952825007091713


    IN REPLY TO:

    @thesubtledoctor

    🤔 What could have happened say around 4 cycles back that might have slowly degraded the parties, as if they were being sapped of a key resource, whatching it vampirically transfered to orgs focused on pure ideology w/ little coordination or compromise & bewitched by demagoguery https://t.co/7a2XFfOp3V

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1172952825007091713

  • Libertar-idiocy Dissipates Slowly

    —“Ukraine was NEVER an anarcho-capitalist society and was never even close.”– (a) Define Ancap. (anarchic) voluntary Polycentric polylogical (clan) law. Voluntary commons (none). Voluntary Military (gangsters, clans), usury, irreciprocity, blackmail, all permitted. In other words, migratory shepherds of the deserts trying to hold superior farmland, when it is farmland that created demand for infrastructure (commons), demand for armies, taxes, states to fund them. (b) Define State (territory, monopoly of violence, monopoly of rule, hierarchy, bureaucracy (c) ukraine has been a territorial possession not a state, since the golden horde. It was a territorial possession with wide latitude from the 12th century to the fall of the soviet union. If it was not a State, then what was it? What is the name for a stateless territory, not under control of an empire? So we have anarchic territory, territorial possession, and state. What other conditions of social order exist? UKRAINE: —“Part of Scythia in antiquity and settled by Getae, in the migration period, Ukraine is also the site of early Slavic expansion, and enters history proper with the establishment of the medieval state of Kievan Rus, which emerged as a powerful nation in the Middle Ages but disintegrated in the 12th century. After the middle of the 14th century, present-day Ukrainian territories came under the rule of three external powers: 1.the Golden Horde 2.the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Kingdom of Poland – during the 15th century these lands came under the rule of the Crown of the Kingdom of Poland, then of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth (from 1569)

    1. the Crimean Khanate (from the 15th century)
    2. After a 1648 rebellion of the Cossacks against the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky agreed to the Treaty of Pereyaslav in January 1654. The exact nature of the relationship established by this treaty between Cossack Hetmanate and Russia remains a matter of scholarly controversy.[5] The agreement precipitated the Russo-Polish War (1654–67) also called The War for Ukraine. In consequence, by the Eternal Peace Treaty, signed in 1686, the eastern portion of Ukraine (east of the Dnieper River) were to come under Russian rule[6], 146,000 rubles were to be paid to Poland as compensation for the loss of the Left Bank of Ukraine[7] and the parties agreed not to sign a separate treaty with the Ottoman Empire.[8] The treaty was strongly opposed in Poland and was not ratified by the Sejm (parliament of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth) until 1710.[9][10] The legal legitimacy of its ratification has been disputed.[11] According to Jacek Staszewski, the treaty was not confirmed by a resolution of the Sejm until the Convocation Sejm (1764).[12] After the Partitions of Poland (1772–1795) and the Russian conquest of the Crimean Khanate, the Russian Empire and Habsburg Austria were in control of all the territories that constitute present day Ukraine for a hundred years. A chaotic period of warfare ensued after the Russian Revolutions of 1917. The internationally recognised Ukrainian People’s Republic emerged from its own civil war of 1917–1921. The Ukrainian–Soviet War (1917–1921) followed, in which the bolshevik Red Army established control in late 1919.[13] The Ukrainian Bolsheviks, who had defeated the national government in Kiev, established the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, which on 30 December 1922 became one of the founding republics of the Soviet Union. Initial Soviet policy on Ukrainian language and Ukrainian culture made Ukrainian the official language of administration and schools. Policy in the 1930s turned to russification. In 1932 and 1933, millions of people, mostly peasants, in Ukraine starved to death in a devastating famine, known as Holodomor. It is estimated by Encyclopædia Britannica that 6 to 8 million people died from hunger in the Soviet Union during this period, of whom 4 to 5 million were Ukrainians.[14] Nikita Khrushchev was appointed the head of the Ukrainian Communist Party in 1938. After Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939, the Ukrainian SSR’s territory expanded westward. Axis armies occupied Ukraine from 1941 to 1944. During World War II the Ukrainian Insurgent Army fought for Ukrainian independence against both Germany and the Soviet Union. In 1945 the Ukrainian SSR became one of the founding members of the United Nations.[15] After the death of Stalin (1953), Khrushchev as head of the Communist Party of Soviet Union enabled a Ukrainian revival. Nevertheless, political repressions against poets, historians and other intellectuals continued, as in all other parts of the USSR. In 1954 the republic expanded to the south with the transfer of the Crimea. Ukraine became independent again when the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991. This started a period of transition to a market economy, in which Ukraine suffered an eight-year recession.[16] Subsequently, however, the economy experienced a high increase in GDP growth. Ukraine was caught up in the worldwide economic crisis in 2008 and the economy plunged. GDP fell 20% from spring 2008 to spring 2009, then leveled off.”—

    2)  –” Icleand, usa…”– Iceland and the US Colonies were COLONIES under the ownership and protection, like ukraine, of empires and states. There were given limited rule by permission of those powerful states. This is as I said earlier, the only conditions under which the pretense of liberty (meaning preservation of local rule and custom) is possible. Furthermore, these were borderland (distant) territories, and settlers provide value in expanding territories because they prevent competing states from taking those same territories, yet require little cost for the state to hold that territory. In other words, settlement of new territories by the disenfranchised, poor, adventurous, or undesirable functions as purchasing an option by a state. 3) —“Thirdly people overcome the incentive to free ride without a state all the time.”– Of course they do. They free ride on the production of commons made possible by the centralization of rent seeking in the state. They free ride on the empire or state that protects their territory from competitors. They free ride on the commons produced by others. That is what people go to cities for: to free ride on the commons. On the other hand, the scale of these societies (communes) is limited since the incentive to ‘cheat’ increases with increases in numbers, scarcity, opportunity SO the question isn’t that SOME people overcome the incentive to free ride out of some strange moral obligation, but the MAJORITY do not. And in fact, almost everyone, literally, demonstrates the minimum avoidance of free riding he or she can get away with. That’s research that just came out over the past few years and was published again yesterday. So, no, you’re claiming that people act irrationally, (not free riding) when in fact the opposite is true: people are rational actors: they seize every opportunity that they can to free ride. In fact, that’s the point of libertarianism: to free ride on empires or states by not paying the cost of access to commons, having the ability to engage in trade with members of those states, the technology produced by them, the discounted goods and services produced by them, the defense that’s provided by them. Net net is either you produce sufficient commons to deny competitors your territory, or you are captured by those who produced sufficient commons to deny you the territory. That is why there are no anarchic societies: they cannot compete for territory. Worse, evidence is that they cannot compete for people unless they give something away for free. In the past this was land. In the present, instead of land, it’s credit. I’m about 10k* smarter than you are, and I have many more years involved in the libertarian movement than you do, and much greater mastery of not only libertarian (jewish diasporic ghetto ethics) than you do, and I have far more understanding of all the competing theories of sexual, social, economic, political and military organization than you do. Libertarianism is just common property marxism. There is no difference. A monopoly. It’s just jewish ethics dressed up in the language of germanic law. I don’t do sophisms. I stop them. -cheers.

  • Libertar-idiocy Dissipates Slowly

    —“Ukraine was NEVER an anarcho-capitalist society and was never even close.”– (a) Define Ancap. (anarchic) voluntary Polycentric polylogical (clan) law. Voluntary commons (none). Voluntary Military (gangsters, clans), usury, irreciprocity, blackmail, all permitted. In other words, migratory shepherds of the deserts trying to hold superior farmland, when it is farmland that created demand for infrastructure (commons), demand for armies, taxes, states to fund them. (b) Define State (territory, monopoly of violence, monopoly of rule, hierarchy, bureaucracy (c) ukraine has been a territorial possession not a state, since the golden horde. It was a territorial possession with wide latitude from the 12th century to the fall of the soviet union. If it was not a State, then what was it? What is the name for a stateless territory, not under control of an empire? So we have anarchic territory, territorial possession, and state. What other conditions of social order exist? UKRAINE: —“Part of Scythia in antiquity and settled by Getae, in the migration period, Ukraine is also the site of early Slavic expansion, and enters history proper with the establishment of the medieval state of Kievan Rus, which emerged as a powerful nation in the Middle Ages but disintegrated in the 12th century. After the middle of the 14th century, present-day Ukrainian territories came under the rule of three external powers: 1.the Golden Horde 2.the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Kingdom of Poland – during the 15th century these lands came under the rule of the Crown of the Kingdom of Poland, then of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth (from 1569)

    1. the Crimean Khanate (from the 15th century)
    2. After a 1648 rebellion of the Cossacks against the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky agreed to the Treaty of Pereyaslav in January 1654. The exact nature of the relationship established by this treaty between Cossack Hetmanate and Russia remains a matter of scholarly controversy.[5] The agreement precipitated the Russo-Polish War (1654–67) also called The War for Ukraine. In consequence, by the Eternal Peace Treaty, signed in 1686, the eastern portion of Ukraine (east of the Dnieper River) were to come under Russian rule[6], 146,000 rubles were to be paid to Poland as compensation for the loss of the Left Bank of Ukraine[7] and the parties agreed not to sign a separate treaty with the Ottoman Empire.[8] The treaty was strongly opposed in Poland and was not ratified by the Sejm (parliament of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth) until 1710.[9][10] The legal legitimacy of its ratification has been disputed.[11] According to Jacek Staszewski, the treaty was not confirmed by a resolution of the Sejm until the Convocation Sejm (1764).[12] After the Partitions of Poland (1772–1795) and the Russian conquest of the Crimean Khanate, the Russian Empire and Habsburg Austria were in control of all the territories that constitute present day Ukraine for a hundred years. A chaotic period of warfare ensued after the Russian Revolutions of 1917. The internationally recognised Ukrainian People’s Republic emerged from its own civil war of 1917–1921. The Ukrainian–Soviet War (1917–1921) followed, in which the bolshevik Red Army established control in late 1919.[13] The Ukrainian Bolsheviks, who had defeated the national government in Kiev, established the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, which on 30 December 1922 became one of the founding republics of the Soviet Union. Initial Soviet policy on Ukrainian language and Ukrainian culture made Ukrainian the official language of administration and schools. Policy in the 1930s turned to russification. In 1932 and 1933, millions of people, mostly peasants, in Ukraine starved to death in a devastating famine, known as Holodomor. It is estimated by Encyclopædia Britannica that 6 to 8 million people died from hunger in the Soviet Union during this period, of whom 4 to 5 million were Ukrainians.[14] Nikita Khrushchev was appointed the head of the Ukrainian Communist Party in 1938. After Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939, the Ukrainian SSR’s territory expanded westward. Axis armies occupied Ukraine from 1941 to 1944. During World War II the Ukrainian Insurgent Army fought for Ukrainian independence against both Germany and the Soviet Union. In 1945 the Ukrainian SSR became one of the founding members of the United Nations.[15] After the death of Stalin (1953), Khrushchev as head of the Communist Party of Soviet Union enabled a Ukrainian revival. Nevertheless, political repressions against poets, historians and other intellectuals continued, as in all other parts of the USSR. In 1954 the republic expanded to the south with the transfer of the Crimea. Ukraine became independent again when the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991. This started a period of transition to a market economy, in which Ukraine suffered an eight-year recession.[16] Subsequently, however, the economy experienced a high increase in GDP growth. Ukraine was caught up in the worldwide economic crisis in 2008 and the economy plunged. GDP fell 20% from spring 2008 to spring 2009, then leveled off.”—

    2)  –” Icleand, usa…”– Iceland and the US Colonies were COLONIES under the ownership and protection, like ukraine, of empires and states. There were given limited rule by permission of those powerful states. This is as I said earlier, the only conditions under which the pretense of liberty (meaning preservation of local rule and custom) is possible. Furthermore, these were borderland (distant) territories, and settlers provide value in expanding territories because they prevent competing states from taking those same territories, yet require little cost for the state to hold that territory. In other words, settlement of new territories by the disenfranchised, poor, adventurous, or undesirable functions as purchasing an option by a state. 3) —“Thirdly people overcome the incentive to free ride without a state all the time.”– Of course they do. They free ride on the production of commons made possible by the centralization of rent seeking in the state. They free ride on the empire or state that protects their territory from competitors. They free ride on the commons produced by others. That is what people go to cities for: to free ride on the commons. On the other hand, the scale of these societies (communes) is limited since the incentive to ‘cheat’ increases with increases in numbers, scarcity, opportunity SO the question isn’t that SOME people overcome the incentive to free ride out of some strange moral obligation, but the MAJORITY do not. And in fact, almost everyone, literally, demonstrates the minimum avoidance of free riding he or she can get away with. That’s research that just came out over the past few years and was published again yesterday. So, no, you’re claiming that people act irrationally, (not free riding) when in fact the opposite is true: people are rational actors: they seize every opportunity that they can to free ride. In fact, that’s the point of libertarianism: to free ride on empires or states by not paying the cost of access to commons, having the ability to engage in trade with members of those states, the technology produced by them, the discounted goods and services produced by them, the defense that’s provided by them. Net net is either you produce sufficient commons to deny competitors your territory, or you are captured by those who produced sufficient commons to deny you the territory. That is why there are no anarchic societies: they cannot compete for territory. Worse, evidence is that they cannot compete for people unless they give something away for free. In the past this was land. In the present, instead of land, it’s credit. I’m about 10k* smarter than you are, and I have many more years involved in the libertarian movement than you do, and much greater mastery of not only libertarian (jewish diasporic ghetto ethics) than you do, and I have far more understanding of all the competing theories of sexual, social, economic, political and military organization than you do. Libertarianism is just common property marxism. There is no difference. A monopoly. It’s just jewish ethics dressed up in the language of germanic law. I don’t do sophisms. I stop them. -cheers.

  • ARISTOCRACY WESTERN TRIPARTISM MADE QUADRIPARTISM “THOSE WHO FIGHT” (Military, J

    ARISTOCRACY WESTERN TRIPARTISM MADE QUADRIPARTISM

    “THOSE WHO FIGHT” (Military, Judiciary, Sheriffs)
    Those Who Enforce The Natural Law

    “THOSE WHO PRAY” (Academy)
    Those Who Teach The Natural… https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=459951561268406&id=100017606988153


    Source date (UTC): 2019-09-04 21:44:27 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1169365634301517825

  • ARISTOCRACY WESTERN TRIPARTISM MADE QUADRIPARTISM “THOSE WHO FIGHT” (Military, J

    ARISTOCRACY WESTERN TRIPARTISM MADE QUADRIPARTISM

    “THOSE WHO FIGHT” (Military, Judiciary, Sheriffs)

    Those Who Enforce The Natural Law

    “THOSE WHO PRAY” (Academy)

    Those Who Teach The Natural and Physical Laws

    “THOSE WHO ORGANIZE” (Middle Class)

    Those Who Organize Those Who Labor Under the Natural and Physical laws

    “THOSE WHO LABOR” (Lower middle, Working, Laboring)

    Those Who Labor Under The Natural and Physical Laws


    Source date (UTC): 2019-09-04 17:44:00 UTC