Theme: Constitutional Order

  • NO. TOLL ROADS ARE NOT PERMITTED UNDER P-CONSTITUTION —-“How would P-Law handl

    NO. TOLL ROADS ARE NOT PERMITTED UNDER P-CONSTITUTION

    —-“How would P-Law handle toll roads. More specifically, our current highway into Houston is a regular tax funded highway, with an oversized median between the two directional lanes… however they’re in the process of building a new toll road in the median & converting the current highway into a feeder road with all the hassles of stop lights. At present, it’s a 45 minute non stop trip on a publically paid for highway. How would P-law handle the govt changing our current highway into a toll road?”—Clinton McLaggan

    It’s a debatable and technical point, however, P-Constitution prohibits toll roads. While at first blush it would appear possible under natural law, its a violation of two criteria: first, the only necessary right of a commons – of movement in two dimensional space, and secondly: it’s open to rent seeking – a fee without contributing to production. In other words if you want a road you can build one, but you can’t create such a commons and extract tolls for it. Same for bridges. Not for ferries.

    NOTE:

    One of P’s prohibitions is non-exclusory use of property. Meaning you can’t wall someone out of access to territory. This is a very old common law tradition. If you want to wall something off you have to provide passage along the borders.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-02-14 21:10:00 UTC

  • P EMPHASIZES THE COURT (effective) NOT VOTING (ineffective)

    P EMPHASIZES THE COURT (effective) NOT VOTING (ineffective) https://propertarianism.com/2020/02/14/p-emphasizes-the-court-effective-not-voting-ineffective/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-02-14 16:00:30 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1228348295992532996

  • P EMPHASIZES THE COURT (effective) NOT VOTING (ineffective)

    Feb 11, 2020, 9:11 PM by John Mark [I]n any nation there will be capable and incapable people, wealthy and poor, etc – all across the spectrum. There is a huge difference between giving less capable people (who often tend to vote for free stuff stolen from others) “via-negativa” power thru P-law (the power to STOP violations of reciprocity) and giving them “via-positiva” power thru voting (the power to INITIATE violations of reciprocity). The Propertarian system does NOT allow less capable (often parasite-minded) people the ability to INITIATE violations of reciprocity, and at the same time it DOES allow everyone to stop violations of reciprocity. So you can see it solves 2 problems at once: It TAKES AWAY via-positiva initiating power from a demographic that has a majority of parasite-instinct people, and GIVES via-negativa power to STOP violations of reciprocity, to everyone. And under P-Law the average person WILL have MUCH more power to counter the well-heeled than today. First, keep in mind that poor people even today often have no trouble getting legal representation when the lawyers believe there is strong chance of a big financial reward. P-Law would provide significant $ rewards – violators of reciprocity will have to pay damages, and the richer the violator, the greater the financial reward for taking them to court will be in many cases. Second, under P-Law there will be very few if any frivolous lawsuits because loser has to pay extra damages. This reduces/eliminates the ability of rich people to use their wealth to “play the lawsuit game” as a tool of control over the poor. Everyone regardless of wealth level will be much more careful about their actions and words in general (so as not to end up in court by violating reciprocity), and careful about going to court (poor people if they have a good case will have no trouble finding a good lawyer, rich people will not be able to use frivolous lawsuits to intimidate & wear out opposition). (Curt has thought this through very thoroughly. People just need to stick around long enough to find out that the multiple changes outlined in the propertarian system fix multiple problems as well as they can be fixed, keeping in mind that no fix will be 100% perfect.)


    —“The importance of voting is evidence the American experiment failed. The greater the importance, the greater the evidence, the greater the failure.”— Luke Weinhagen

  • P EMPHASIZES THE COURT (effective) NOT VOTING (ineffective)

    Feb 11, 2020, 9:11 PM by John Mark [I]n any nation there will be capable and incapable people, wealthy and poor, etc – all across the spectrum. There is a huge difference between giving less capable people (who often tend to vote for free stuff stolen from others) “via-negativa” power thru P-law (the power to STOP violations of reciprocity) and giving them “via-positiva” power thru voting (the power to INITIATE violations of reciprocity). The Propertarian system does NOT allow less capable (often parasite-minded) people the ability to INITIATE violations of reciprocity, and at the same time it DOES allow everyone to stop violations of reciprocity. So you can see it solves 2 problems at once: It TAKES AWAY via-positiva initiating power from a demographic that has a majority of parasite-instinct people, and GIVES via-negativa power to STOP violations of reciprocity, to everyone. And under P-Law the average person WILL have MUCH more power to counter the well-heeled than today. First, keep in mind that poor people even today often have no trouble getting legal representation when the lawyers believe there is strong chance of a big financial reward. P-Law would provide significant $ rewards – violators of reciprocity will have to pay damages, and the richer the violator, the greater the financial reward for taking them to court will be in many cases. Second, under P-Law there will be very few if any frivolous lawsuits because loser has to pay extra damages. This reduces/eliminates the ability of rich people to use their wealth to “play the lawsuit game” as a tool of control over the poor. Everyone regardless of wealth level will be much more careful about their actions and words in general (so as not to end up in court by violating reciprocity), and careful about going to court (poor people if they have a good case will have no trouble finding a good lawyer, rich people will not be able to use frivolous lawsuits to intimidate & wear out opposition). (Curt has thought this through very thoroughly. People just need to stick around long enough to find out that the multiple changes outlined in the propertarian system fix multiple problems as well as they can be fixed, keeping in mind that no fix will be 100% perfect.)


    —“The importance of voting is evidence the American experiment failed. The greater the importance, the greater the evidence, the greater the failure.”— Luke Weinhagen

  • “it’s Hard to Get on Board with Monarchy”

    Feb 12, 2020, 9:53 AM “IT’S HARD TO GET ON BOARD WITH MONARCHY” [I] wasn’t on board with it either. It’s just eventually I couldn’t deny it any longer. Constitutional monarchy with power of veto, termination of ministers, dissolution of parliament. That’s all. Monarchy = Kinship government, and Intergenerational Incentives, and capitalization rather than tragedy of the commons, and compensates for fashion, political, and procedural failure. The enemy wanted to end our monarchy to replace it with an organized crime family.

  • “it’s Hard to Get on Board with Monarchy”

    Feb 12, 2020, 9:53 AM “IT’S HARD TO GET ON BOARD WITH MONARCHY” [I] wasn’t on board with it either. It’s just eventually I couldn’t deny it any longer. Constitutional monarchy with power of veto, termination of ministers, dissolution of parliament. That’s all. Monarchy = Kinship government, and Intergenerational Incentives, and capitalization rather than tragedy of the commons, and compensates for fashion, political, and procedural failure. The enemy wanted to end our monarchy to replace it with an organized crime family.

  • Greatest Mistakes

    Feb 12, 2020, 11:12 AM [T]he greatest mistakes our country made were not letting the south secede, expanding the franchise to those unproductive and lacking responsibility, and the Hart-Celler Act to open the gates to the underclasses – destroying the American experiment in a third way: middle-class civ. These are followed closely by tolerating the postwar suppression of the American eugenics movement, and not brutally crushing the communist movement, Marxist-postmodernist movements. We were tolerant in Greek, Roman, Germanic, and British civilizations. Tolerance is a weakness, not a virtue.

  • Greatest Mistakes

    Feb 12, 2020, 11:12 AM [T]he greatest mistakes our country made were not letting the south secede, expanding the franchise to those unproductive and lacking responsibility, and the Hart-Celler Act to open the gates to the underclasses – destroying the American experiment in a third way: middle-class civ. These are followed closely by tolerating the postwar suppression of the American eugenics movement, and not brutally crushing the communist movement, Marxist-postmodernist movements. We were tolerant in Greek, Roman, Germanic, and British civilizations. Tolerance is a weakness, not a virtue.

  • The P Constitution Isn’t a Request for Approval

    Feb 13, 2020, 10:15 AM [I] don’t think it’s coming across. We aren’t trying to get consensus on reciprocity under some form of a P constitution. We’re saying that the only reason not to conquer, deprive, rule, tax, enserf, enslave, or much worse, is under reciprocity – and there is no possibility to counter it.

  • The P Constitution Isn’t a Request for Approval

    Feb 13, 2020, 10:15 AM [I] don’t think it’s coming across. We aren’t trying to get consensus on reciprocity under some form of a P constitution. We’re saying that the only reason not to conquer, deprive, rule, tax, enserf, enslave, or much worse, is under reciprocity – and there is no possibility to counter it.