Theme: Constitutional Order

  • Constitution: It’s about Monoculture, and Integration, or Separation

    Constitution: It’s about Monoculture, and Integration, or Separation. https://t.co/5FvY5BJfeO

  • Constitution: It’s about Monoculture, and Integration, or Separation.

    —“I’m in the Marines, I’m a ri–t winger. If we were to boogaloo will there be ethnic separation in propertarianism? Please answer honestly.”— Tyler Granberry

    No. Period. Honestly, Truthfully. (I will get a ton of sh-t for saying that from the WN crowd.) There is a right of voluntary DISASSOCIATION as well as ASSOCIATION meaning everyone can create new identitarian neighborhoods, villages, cities, counties, sure, because under P we can’t prohibit that VOLUNTARY association and Disassociation. Just as we can’t make bakers bake cakes they don’t agree with. Just like we can’t prohibit men from forming men’s clubs again. Just like we can’t prohibit people from forming their own group banks, own group biases. In other words we end INVOLUNTARY integration at the local level. (If you know your history, and if know the failure of force integration pretty much everywhere except the military, the 60’s destroyed the formation of the african american middle class and elites. That said, P constitution proposes a (libertarian) COMPROMISE that if unmet, escalates to POLITICIDE against the left and the use of undermining by competing ideologies, philosophies, religions and interest groups. It converts the left wing immigrant cities into city states, and removes the government from social policy, and restores it to an insurer of last resort. I suspect that we will see the formation of a small number of local polities that like the amish, the evangelicals, or the white nationalists, want to maintain cultural isolationism by a majority middle class. But the state cannot interfere eithe way. I expect that we will have major cities maintain the high and low versus the middle. I tend to look at black-white relations in the south, vs the north and the differences are rather obvious. Family is family in the south. Politics and political parties and ideology in the northeast. And hostility in southern california and new york. What we DO threaten is an escalation IF left and right cannot pursue their separate political interests in their local polities. In other words, if the left resists we promise to escalate. I think I’ve said it as political separation is a good thing, politicide is a good thing at the federal level, ethnocide if it escalates, and genocide if it escalates, so let’s do the ‘everybody wins’ scenario and devlove the ‘imperial’ federal government’s rule over other than conflict in property between the states to state, city – state, county, local level. And get out of the business of coercing each other. But you can search my ten years of posts on P and the site and all you’ll see is libertarian solutions and “I don’t do racism, I do classism, and it’s class sizes that cause the problem not race, and if we can produce commons and rules and norms suitable to our populations we will all stop having conflict over them.” Ie: it worked in the past just fine. It will work now just fine. people are the same the world over in this regard.

  • Constitution: It’s about Monoculture, and Integration, or Separation.

    —“I’m in the Marines, I’m a ri–t winger. If we were to boogaloo will there be ethnic separation in propertarianism? Please answer honestly.”— Tyler Granberry

    No. Period. Honestly, Truthfully. (I will get a ton of sh-t for saying that from the WN crowd.) There is a right of voluntary DISASSOCIATION as well as ASSOCIATION meaning everyone can create new identitarian neighborhoods, villages, cities, counties, sure, because under P we can’t prohibit that VOLUNTARY association and Disassociation. Just as we can’t make bakers bake cakes they don’t agree with. Just like we can’t prohibit men from forming men’s clubs again. Just like we can’t prohibit people from forming their own group banks, own group biases. In other words we end INVOLUNTARY integration at the local level. (If you know your history, and if know the failure of force integration pretty much everywhere except the military, the 60’s destroyed the formation of the african american middle class and elites. That said, P constitution proposes a (libertarian) COMPROMISE that if unmet, escalates to POLITICIDE against the left and the use of undermining by competing ideologies, philosophies, religions and interest groups. It converts the left wing immigrant cities into city states, and removes the government from social policy, and restores it to an insurer of last resort. I suspect that we will see the formation of a small number of local polities that like the amish, the evangelicals, or the white nationalists, want to maintain cultural isolationism by a majority middle class. But the state cannot interfere eithe way. I expect that we will have major cities maintain the high and low versus the middle. I tend to look at black-white relations in the south, vs the north and the differences are rather obvious. Family is family in the south. Politics and political parties and ideology in the northeast. And hostility in southern california and new york. What we DO threaten is an escalation IF left and right cannot pursue their separate political interests in their local polities. In other words, if the left resists we promise to escalate. I think I’ve said it as political separation is a good thing, politicide is a good thing at the federal level, ethnocide if it escalates, and genocide if it escalates, so let’s do the ‘everybody wins’ scenario and devlove the ‘imperial’ federal government’s rule over other than conflict in property between the states to state, city – state, county, local level. And get out of the business of coercing each other. But you can search my ten years of posts on P and the site and all you’ll see is libertarian solutions and “I don’t do racism, I do classism, and it’s class sizes that cause the problem not race, and if we can produce commons and rules and norms suitable to our populations we will all stop having conflict over them.” Ie: it worked in the past just fine. It will work now just fine. people are the same the world over in this regard.

  • Disambiguating P for Mass Consumption?

      How do we disambiguate P-Method, P-Law, and a P-Constitution Template, and P-Constitutions for Each Polity?

    1. The system of thought we call propertarianism – that would be better called ‘natural law’ or ‘Testmonialism’ – is a methodology that completes the sciences by completing the transformation of traditional philosophical categories of metaphysics, epistemology, ethics, politics, and aesthetics as well as the pseudo-sciences of psychology, sociology, and political science into a single science with a uniform fully commensurable operational vocabulary and logic. Where “Operational” might be better stated in philosophical terms “realism, naturalism, operationalism (human actions).

    2. With this uniformity provides the ability to write constitution and law in value-neutral prose fully commensurable across all peoples, all, disciplines and all contexts.

    3. We can write any constitution for any people using any group strategy in this P-law – as long as we state it under realism, naturalism, operationalism, sovereignty, and reciprocity – where reciprocity includes testimonial speech.

    4. The only unique properties of a P-law constitution are (a) the suppression of false and ir-reciprocal speech, (b) operational and technical language that prohibits misinterpretation, interpretation, and arbitrary extension.

    5. Using P-method, and P-law, I wrote the The P-consitution as a template for a flexible government that varies from authoritarian to market to redistributive dependent upon circumstances that create demand for different government, and it includes a set of options for government from authoritarian or authoritarian monarchy to multi-house social democracy, and everything in between.

    6. The P-Constitution for the USA is tailored for the problems of the Anglo Civilization (UK, USA, Canada, and Australia-NZ), and I would need to tailor one for western Europe, eastern europe (Intermarium), and one for Russia. But it’s possible to write one for any and every civilization in entirely truthful terms – and there is little reason to do otherwise, since each civilization survives by competing on its terms, and its terms can be stated truthfully (realism, naturalism, operationalism, testimonialism).

  • Disambiguating P for Mass Consumption?

      How do we disambiguate P-Method, P-Law, and a P-Constitution Template, and P-Constitutions for Each Polity?

    1. The system of thought we call propertarianism – that would be better called ‘natural law’ or ‘Testmonialism’ – is a methodology that completes the sciences by completing the transformation of traditional philosophical categories of metaphysics, epistemology, ethics, politics, and aesthetics as well as the pseudo-sciences of psychology, sociology, and political science into a single science with a uniform fully commensurable operational vocabulary and logic. Where “Operational” might be better stated in philosophical terms “realism, naturalism, operationalism (human actions).

    2. With this uniformity provides the ability to write constitution and law in value-neutral prose fully commensurable across all peoples, all, disciplines and all contexts.

    3. We can write any constitution for any people using any group strategy in this P-law – as long as we state it under realism, naturalism, operationalism, sovereignty, and reciprocity – where reciprocity includes testimonial speech.

    4. The only unique properties of a P-law constitution are (a) the suppression of false and ir-reciprocal speech, (b) operational and technical language that prohibits misinterpretation, interpretation, and arbitrary extension.

    5. Using P-method, and P-law, I wrote the The P-consitution as a template for a flexible government that varies from authoritarian to market to redistributive dependent upon circumstances that create demand for different government, and it includes a set of options for government from authoritarian or authoritarian monarchy to multi-house social democracy, and everything in between.

    6. The P-Constitution for the USA is tailored for the problems of the Anglo Civilization (UK, USA, Canada, and Australia-NZ), and I would need to tailor one for western Europe, eastern europe (Intermarium), and one for Russia. But it’s possible to write one for any and every civilization in entirely truthful terms – and there is little reason to do otherwise, since each civilization survives by competing on its terms, and its terms can be stated truthfully (realism, naturalism, operationalism, testimonialism).

  • The Constitution and The Law Can Be Restored to Pre-Postmodern, Pre-Marxist, Pre

    The Constitution and The Law Can Be Restored to Pre-Postmodern, Pre-Marxist, Pre-Civil War Terms, as A Federal Government Limited to The Defense of The States, and To the Adjudication of Differences in Material Property Between the States, https://propertarianism.com/2020/06/01/the-constitution-and-the-law-can-be-restored-to-pre-postmodern-pre-marxist-pre-civil-war-terms-as-a-federal-government-limited-to-the-defense-of-the-states-and-to-the-adjudication-of-differences-i/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-06-01 16:44:26 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1267497244267368450

  • The Constitution and The Law Can Be Restored to Pre-Postmodern, Pre-Marxist, Pre

    The Constitution and The Law Can Be Restored to Pre-Postmodern, Pre-Marxist, Pre-Civil War Terms, as A Federal Government Limited to The Defense of The States, and To the Adjudication of Differences in Material Property Between the States, https://t.co/aWE9Yc0F5W

  • The Constitution and The Law Can Be Restored to Pre-Postmodern, Pre-Marxist, Pre-Civil War Terms, as A Federal Government Limited to The Defense of The States, and To the Adjudication of Differences in Material Property Between the States,

    Oct 22, 2019, 12:39 PM

    —“I think only that the constitution and the law can be restored to pre-postmodern, pre-marxist, pre-civil war terms, as a federal government limited to the defense of the states, and to the adjudication of differences in material property between the states, and where hostile cities are involuntarily converted to city states, and where all local norm, custom, and tradition is determined by at the local level, and only investment at the state. … And I absolutely positively without question know how to do it – because the alternative for the “Left” is so terrible they will agree rather than risk it. That is why have confidence – I am very slow and deliberate and thorough, but I am very, very, good at what I do. It will take 1/3 of 1% of our males to make it happen, and it will happen quickly. And frankly we will hope the enemy resists – because …. “— Curt

    (worth repeating)

  • The Constitution and The Law Can Be Restored to Pre-Postmodern, Pre-Marxist, Pre-Civil War Terms, as A Federal Government Limited to The Defense of The States, and To the Adjudication of Differences in Material Property Between the States,

    Oct 22, 2019, 12:39 PM

    —“I think only that the constitution and the law can be restored to pre-postmodern, pre-marxist, pre-civil war terms, as a federal government limited to the defense of the states, and to the adjudication of differences in material property between the states, and where hostile cities are involuntarily converted to city states, and where all local norm, custom, and tradition is determined by at the local level, and only investment at the state. … And I absolutely positively without question know how to do it – because the alternative for the “Left” is so terrible they will agree rather than risk it. That is why have confidence – I am very slow and deliberate and thorough, but I am very, very, good at what I do. It will take 1/3 of 1% of our males to make it happen, and it will happen quickly. And frankly we will hope the enemy resists – because …. “— Curt

    (worth repeating)

  • Anglo Saxon Law (Germanic Law)

    Anglo Saxon Law (Germanic Law) https://propertarianism.com/2020/06/01/anglo-saxon-law-germanic-law/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-06-01 15:12:42 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1267474158931382272