Theme: Commons

  • Notes for John Mark Interview – Part 6

    Now, gov’t can also have another function which is to have a system where different groups of people can negotiate on commons. (I may take a minute to explain the difference between via-negativa & via-positiva, & briefly define “commons”.) The key is to enable representatives of the people to negotiate on commons without violating reciprocity. The problem is our representatives are currently able to make laws that violate reciprocity (“lawmakers” – they shouldn’t be lawmakers, there is only one law, natural law of reciprocity), instead they should be negotiating on commons, without violating reciprocity. Can you give us an idea how this could look, paint a picture for us? Were there times in our history when we did this better than we do now that would give us a reference point?

    Something we’re missing here, is the difference between a perfect institutional model for a given population distribution at a given level of development, and a perfect institutional model for those who have been successful in the production of a middle class polity, where members of the polity own and act as they own the commons as well as the private. So there is an optimum government for europeans, but many other people lag because they cannot at least yet, produce a middle class polity in which every other person is a potential customer in one of the series of markets for cooperation. It’s this incentive not the belief in the good that creates a high trust polity. And it’s rule of law and it’s suppression of parasitism that drives people into those markets instead of markets for parasitism. And by and large it’s a military tradition that makes that law possible. Because military epistemology is empirical and does not tolerate falsehood. Humans do poorly at mixing epistemologies. This is somewhat of a benefit since military epistemology is a prophylactic against sophistry. The structure is the same but the distribution of the franchise (participation) can only expand as does membership in the market. Furthermore as the market expands, new people enter the market but some others exit it. For example, why do state employees have a vote? That said there is a conflict between desire for consumption that as it’s increasing produces status feedback, and increases in consumption and change that leave people behind or feeling left behind. So progress only works as long as consumption is increasing. And it’s not any longer because frankly there is very little left we desire to consume at this level of development. We’ve sort of saturated physical, emotional, and intellectual demand. All that’s left is signaling and security. We had perfect government…(describe british prewar system)

    • Methods of Decision Making
      1. Rule of Law Monarchy with cabinet, and assent and dissent of the public.
      2. Rule of Law Republic with Representatives
      3. Rule of Law with Jury selected from the people
      4. Rule of Law Auction
      5. Rule of Law Market
    • Whether decision is Assent, Dissent, or Contract
      1. If Assent or Contract
        1. Equal Vote vs
        2. Equal Economic Bid, vs
        3. Proportional Economic Bid.
      2. And:
        1. Monopoly (and sufficient to fund and reciprocal) or
        2. Proportionality (sufficient to fund and not irreciprocal.)
    • Houses organized by necessary differences in interests
      1. Gender
      2. Race
      3. Religion
      4. Economic Class
      5. Urban vs Suburban vs Rural (oppy cost differences)
      6. Territory

    This creates markets for producing trades between groups with different interests. In a perfect world we would have a government that was dynamic and adapted to periods of war and scarcity (authority), ordinary markets, and windfalls. A monarchy as a judge of last resort, meaning any decision can be vetoed. And some percentage of revenues under discretionary control of the monarchy so that arts and letters and character are open to exclusive funding. A federal government limited to function of insurer of last resort, meaning a purely via-negativa government managing military, law, treasury, and social security. Local governments competing to produce attractive commons Cities and territories governed separately because of their vast difference in costs and value of commons. Cities are gene sinks they’re terrible but people desire them.

  • Notes for John Mark Interview – Part 6

    Now, gov’t can also have another function which is to have a system where different groups of people can negotiate on commons. (I may take a minute to explain the difference between via-negativa & via-positiva, & briefly define “commons”.) The key is to enable representatives of the people to negotiate on commons without violating reciprocity. The problem is our representatives are currently able to make laws that violate reciprocity (“lawmakers” – they shouldn’t be lawmakers, there is only one law, natural law of reciprocity), instead they should be negotiating on commons, without violating reciprocity. Can you give us an idea how this could look, paint a picture for us? Were there times in our history when we did this better than we do now that would give us a reference point?

    Something we’re missing here, is the difference between a perfect institutional model for a given population distribution at a given level of development, and a perfect institutional model for those who have been successful in the production of a middle class polity, where members of the polity own and act as they own the commons as well as the private. So there is an optimum government for europeans, but many other people lag because they cannot at least yet, produce a middle class polity in which every other person is a potential customer in one of the series of markets for cooperation. It’s this incentive not the belief in the good that creates a high trust polity. And it’s rule of law and it’s suppression of parasitism that drives people into those markets instead of markets for parasitism. And by and large it’s a military tradition that makes that law possible. Because military epistemology is empirical and does not tolerate falsehood. Humans do poorly at mixing epistemologies. This is somewhat of a benefit since military epistemology is a prophylactic against sophistry. The structure is the same but the distribution of the franchise (participation) can only expand as does membership in the market. Furthermore as the market expands, new people enter the market but some others exit it. For example, why do state employees have a vote? That said there is a conflict between desire for consumption that as it’s increasing produces status feedback, and increases in consumption and change that leave people behind or feeling left behind. So progress only works as long as consumption is increasing. And it’s not any longer because frankly there is very little left we desire to consume at this level of development. We’ve sort of saturated physical, emotional, and intellectual demand. All that’s left is signaling and security. We had perfect government…(describe british prewar system)

    • Methods of Decision Making
      1. Rule of Law Monarchy with cabinet, and assent and dissent of the public.
      2. Rule of Law Republic with Representatives
      3. Rule of Law with Jury selected from the people
      4. Rule of Law Auction
      5. Rule of Law Market
    • Whether decision is Assent, Dissent, or Contract
      1. If Assent or Contract
        1. Equal Vote vs
        2. Equal Economic Bid, vs
        3. Proportional Economic Bid.
      2. And:
        1. Monopoly (and sufficient to fund and reciprocal) or
        2. Proportionality (sufficient to fund and not irreciprocal.)
    • Houses organized by necessary differences in interests
      1. Gender
      2. Race
      3. Religion
      4. Economic Class
      5. Urban vs Suburban vs Rural (oppy cost differences)
      6. Territory

    This creates markets for producing trades between groups with different interests. In a perfect world we would have a government that was dynamic and adapted to periods of war and scarcity (authority), ordinary markets, and windfalls. A monarchy as a judge of last resort, meaning any decision can be vetoed. And some percentage of revenues under discretionary control of the monarchy so that arts and letters and character are open to exclusive funding. A federal government limited to function of insurer of last resort, meaning a purely via-negativa government managing military, law, treasury, and social security. Local governments competing to produce attractive commons Cities and territories governed separately because of their vast difference in costs and value of commons. Cities are gene sinks they’re terrible but people desire them.

  • When engaged in Public Speech TO the Public (not talking with friends etc), esp

    When engaged in Public Speech TO the Public (not talking with friends etc), esp for commercial gain, you can’t make false or irreciprocal statements in matters of the commons (economics, politics, law, science). This will criminalize political correctness and the pseudosciences.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-09-01 17:32:14 UTC

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    @last_scout2 Think of it this way. What can you testify to in court? What do you have the knowledge to testify to? We hold people accountable for their testimony, for their commercial speech, but not their political, academic, and scientific speech (matters of the commons). So …

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    @last_scout2 Think of it this way. What can you testify to in court? What do you have the knowledge to testify to? We hold people accountable for their testimony, for their commercial speech, but not their political, academic, and scientific speech (matters of the commons). So …

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  • The west is unique because we practice sovereignty and reciprocity, trust-before

    The west is unique because we practice sovereignty and reciprocity, trust-before-doubt, truth-before-face, and commons-before-private, realism-and-naturalism. We might as well be aliens from another planet compared to the rest of the world – they can’t even conceive of it.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-08-22 01:27:21 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1164348296556621824

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    @StefanMolyneux I spent most of my adult life reducing group strategies to analytic form, and it’s non trivial.

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    @StefanMolyneux I spent most of my adult life reducing group strategies to analytic form, and it’s non trivial.

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  • I am quite willing to bet, even my life, that the majority is not like you, but

    I am quite willing to bet, even my life, that the majority is not like you, but ethical and moral, and when given the choice of a truthful reciprocal commons where genders, classes, races can conduct exchanges (disciplined behavior for redistribution) in Government – We win.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-08-19 13:04:38 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1163436611255902208

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    @SignHexa @NoahRevoy @StefanMolyneux Now you are a naturally dishonest, deceitful, polluter of the informational commons as a practitioner of Abrahamic False Promise, Baiting into Hazard, Pilpul and Critique. A useful idiot for smarter men. But….

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    @SignHexa @NoahRevoy @StefanMolyneux Now you are a naturally dishonest, deceitful, polluter of the informational commons as a practitioner of Abrahamic False Promise, Baiting into Hazard, Pilpul and Critique. A useful idiot for smarter men. But….

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  • Now you are a naturally dishonest, deceitful, polluter of the informational comm

    Now you are a naturally dishonest, deceitful, polluter of the informational commons as a practitioner of Abrahamic False Promise, Baiting into Hazard, Pilpul and Critique. A useful idiot for smarter men. But….


    Source date (UTC): 2019-08-19 13:02:20 UTC

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    @SignHexa @NoahRevoy @StefanMolyneux I teach:
    – The Natural Law,
    – The Science of Testimony,
    – The Grammars of Truth and Deceit,
    – The Logics of Acquisition and Compatibility;
    And their application to:
    – The strict construction of constitutions, legislation, regulation, and findings of the court we call ‘Law’.

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    @SignHexa @NoahRevoy @StefanMolyneux I teach:
    – The Natural Law,
    – The Science of Testimony,
    – The Grammars of Truth and Deceit,
    – The Logics of Acquisition and Compatibility;
    And their application to:
    – The strict construction of constitutions, legislation, regulation, and findings of the court we call ‘Law’.

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  • Taxation is obtained by force. A price is paid voluntarily. One either creates c

    Taxation is obtained by force. A price is paid voluntarily. One either creates commons by paying for them or stealing from others to create them. What you mean is you want parasitism, predation, irreciprocity, and to achieve it by force, through the proxy of the vote.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-08-18 17:52:13 UTC

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  • ( … more) There are limits to the scope of private property. Property is neces

    ( … more)

    There are limits to the scope of private property. Property is necessary because of the limits of people’s knowledge in time. However, there are points at which certain forms of private property deny service to consumers, (such as misuse of intellectual property rights) and therefore it is theft from consumers. Why? Because consumers forgo the opportunity for violence, and in doing so pay for the cost of creating that private property. So denying the market a good in order to increase prices and profits is a theft of the costs paid by consumers to create the opportunity for private property. So the limits to private property come from artificial scarcity (denying a good to market), whereas reinforcement of private property comes from the

    There are limits to the scope of public property, because there are limits to the amount of knowledge that can exist in any person’s mind, and limits to decision making among groups of individuals, and distortionary effects (basically, perceived risk reduction, limited by the amount of knowledge of the largest population able to exercise it’s will) and the rapidity of timely action, and because of the limits of timely action, limitations on the opportunity cost for the group. ie: increases in private property are an opportunity cost reduction for a group.

    The purpose of the union movement is to allow the populists to use threats against the capitalists, without fear that the capitalists can respond in kind, and thereby allow government to profit from intermediation, thereby forming an alliance between the unions and the state, regulated only by the long term (and therefore easily imperceptible) impact of their intervention on tax revenues.

    Violence should not be eliminated from our discourse. It is a ruse. Starting with a principle of non violence is and always shall be a ruse.

    The fact is, that ALL movements that presume non-violence are attempts at theft of the cost needed to create private property.

    Costs are the only means of honest political dialog. Both direct costs and opportunity costs.

    The Principle of Non-violence is fraud.

    Plain and simple.

    Period.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-08-16 19:50:50 UTC

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    The Threat Of Revolt, The General Strike, And The Myth Of Non-Violence 28 Monday Dec 2009 Posted by Curt Doolittle in Uncategorized ≈ Leave a comment A tactic used by the vocal left is the threat of violence, or revolt if their needs are not met. The tactic of revolt is ancient. This modern version of revolt is a product of The Myth Of The General Strike. (I am referring to Burnham’s treatment) The contemporary version is the Economic Armageddon and Political Upheaval of the classes. The opposing argument is the libertarian argument for private property, and private capitalism, and the Randian version of Atlas shrugging. Both of these are myths of the general strike. The argument, or myth in any of it’s versions, is disingenuous. Workers will eventually relent, be replaced, or the businesses close. Entrepreneurs will be replaced by others. It is the state who would suffer it’s loss of legitimacy in the event of failure. But a new group would take over in government, and life would go on. An analysis of history tells us that it is much easier for the minority with wealth to pay another minority to violently oppress the peasantry, and to obtain their compliance going forward with commercial incentives and rewards, than it is for a peasantry to organize a movement of a general strike. In fact, the government conducts all general strikes, because without government suport and threats of government violence on business people, they would largely be irrelevant. When a ruling class loses it’s will for violence, the society loses it’s binding mythology. It simply opens it’s ranks for a different group to take over the ruling class, and redefine the existing network-map of property rights, and the dispensation of them. However, provided that the ranks of the elite are open to absorb those ambitous people from all classes, and the elite retain sufficient willingness to use violence, the myth of the revolt is specious. Because people simply need leaders in order to revolt. Before an elite allows itself to be displaced, it commits fraud. They verbally ally themselves with ‘the people’. All societies determine the scope of private and group property differently. (more…)

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  • **IEA THINKS TAXIS ARE NOT A PUBLIC GOOD** April 17th, 2010 Over on the IEA Blog

    **IEA THINKS TAXIS ARE NOT A PUBLIC GOOD**

    April 17th, 2010

    Over on the IEA Blog, Eric Masaba asks the question: Why do black cabs cost more than Concorde?

    I couldn’t point out ALL the holes in this article, because the IEA blog limits the number of characters per comment. I find the argument for the virtue of brevity a ‘cute’ one because affirmations are the most brief of comments, while refutations are the longest.

    The state subsidizes the ‘Black Cabs’ of London.

    Hackney cab drivers inexplicably enjoy a rule stating that no one else can describe a taxi service as a “taxi” in their marketing, and the important restriction that no one else can pick up passengers on the street. These regulations have deep historical foundations, dating back to the days of Dick Turpin. In today’s world, they are anachronistic, anti-competitive and pointless.

    London cab drivers are a pleasure to deal with. They are an intrinsic part of the tourist trade. The Danes pay an entire social class to stay home so that the average clerk in a train station is educated, literate, well mannered, and a pleasure to deal with.

    When there are price comparison sites for insurance, airlines, hotels, holidays and office supplies, where we can buy the same product from a myriad of suppliers at different prices, how is it that there are very strict rules requiring that Hackney drivers receive a minimum wage for every mile driven yet private hire drivers do not?

    Because the market is an unlimited physical space and the streets of London are a limited physical space (and the tube is a monopolized space. And therefore Cabs require a very simple set of regulations in order to maintain quality.

    Why is it good for certain stripes of taxi driver to be able to oblige people in London to pay higher rates than the market would support if such a law was not in place?

    Why is it a good for the state to regulate any kind of competition?

    Why do the same drivers, who expect to be able to choose what clothes they wear (and how much they pay for them) and which airlines and car insurance firms they use, want to deny travellers in London the basic freedom to choose another vehicle service they can hail at the airport or on the street?

    They don’t. You can hire a car from the airport. You just can’t pick someone up on the street.

    If people want to pay for the superior knowledge that the Hackney drivers clearly possess, they will do so. If they do not care, they will find cheaper alternatives until the market has informed the black-cab community what customers really think and what price they are willing to pay.

    They are not paying for the knowledge. The state is using a knowledge criteria to create a hurdle for market entry. Just like they do for just about every kind of specialist.

    Many people are disgusted with the special treatment bankers received, but through the price controls and regulations on taxis in London, transport markets are being distorted to favour one type of vehicle provider.

    Bankers recieved special treatment because the state printed money without regulating it and forced banks either to compete for profits or to go out of business. This process of moral hazard created large banks that are pseudo governmental agencies, that were so responsible for subsidizing the national payroll and cash disribution and management system that if they were not rescued then the crash would have been worse. On the other hand, the state CREATED the moral hazard. But it did not have to. The problem has been that creating the ‘rules’ of the fair game in banking (defining the properties of property and it’s rules of transfer) has become extraordinarily complex because the object of definition has become exceedingly plastic. Derivatives and new financial instruments were a new form of property that many of us decried at the time, but that was unregulated because both the state and the purveyors of these new devices foolishly bought the argument that it was possible to insure that kind of risk, and secondly, because

    So, I have to disagree with the IEA’s position. Travel to NYC, Chicago, LA and ask yourself if the London policy is better or worse for everyone involved. And if we subsidize transportation like subways why cant we subsidize Cabs. If price is a concern, then If you want another choice, call a less expensive cab company on your cell phone. Prices aren’t everything. In fact, low prices and full competition in a market often accomplishes the lowest cost service at the lowest quality that is tolerable by consumers, and bars quality from availability within a geography. (Home Depot and Walmart in the US, and superstores versus butchers, bakers and the like in Europe). I am happy that superstores exist to provide additional choice, but only if there is a replacement ‘tax’ for using them by distancing them.

    From this simple analogy of taxis and tubes versus superstores and specialty stores, we can illustrate that reduced prices and a free market within geographic boundaries produce commodities, and thereby prevent societies from capitalizing long term values of aesthetics, choice, and the ’special’ environments we adore across all of europe in favor of a bland, disposable environment.

    We restrain competition in order to raise prices and therefore concentrate capital and we do it in many ways: political subsidy (money transfers like taxation, redistribution, and outright subsidy) constraining the market by qualification (lawyers, doctors and london cabbies), and constraining the market with monopolies (public transportation like Tubes and Buses).

    We unrestrain the market to reverse the concentration of capital and to reduce prices, and we do it in many ways: political subsidy of

    The natural order of man is to attempt to circumvent the market. The free market is a byproduct of the civic republican tradition’s advocacy of meritocratic equality. It is a rebellious movement against the control of markets and the expropriation of wealth by the state. Markets are a solution to corruption that asks us to create fair competition among equals and to maintain that set of ‘rules’ we call “competition in the market”.

    However, the natural behavior of man is to circumvent that market. The means by which he circumvents it are those tools we consider fair market competition: reducing prices, increasing choices, advertising and marketing. Not all cultures have taken this route. In fact, in history, the free market is an exception that concentrates wealth in hte hands of the monied, productive and creative minority. THis concentration benefits all by decreasing prices for nearly everyone. It limits the power of capitalists as long as there is enough money in circulation to create inexpensive competition.

    But since the culture or state determines the definitions of property (the means of calculating the use of opportunities to act) the rules for any ‘game’ are particular to that game. Rules are not universal to all games. They are plastic. And this comparison of Taxis to Tubes is perhaps one of the best ways to illustrate that these rules are inconsistent.

    But what may not be obvious is the DISTORTION that is created by the myth that rules must be equal for some things and unequal for others. Or, that lowest prices are the ultimate virtue to be sought by economsts and political economists.

    As a libertarian, I care that the choices available to me are not constrained by

    Concentrating capital attracts talent to the private sector where it is skimmed by private individuals, and those who lack talent to the public sector where it is skimmed by bureaucracy. Yet this is what most cultures seek to impose: expropriation by the bureaucracy.

    WE also constrain capitalists, and unconstrain capitalists. Capitalists can temporarily distort a market by applying capital that profits one company or anotther, requiring competitors to rely upon capital or depart. They can do this by simply extending debt, so that prices may be decreased in the anticipation of driving competition out of the market, and later increasing their share of the market as these competitors disappear. the problem with this technique is that talent accumulated in the industry is sometimes forced out. Niches are abandoned (the wall mart and home depot effect).

    The state acts like a disruptive capitalist creating temporary price decreases in return for decreased niche services, and in doing so makes it impossible to concentrate capital in niche excellences. It makes it impossible to subsidize a public good: choice of the more expensive, better, prettier.

    The purpose of the London cabbie is largely to create a public ‘good’. It enforces quality so that quality personnel can afford to work in the industry (rather than the horrid service, delivered by the filthy, ignorant and incompetent in US cities).

    Prices would drive down quality, and all that will happen is that you will need additional regulation to managed an impoverished and corrupt network of marginal businesses that deliver cheap but intolerable service that prevents quality competition from competing in the market.

    If you are willing to spend money on the tube. You have no argument against spending money to maintain a quality system of taxis. Just because market mechanics are POSSIBLE for taxis and IMPOSSIBLE for tubes, that doesn’t mean that taxis are not serving the same function as tubes.

    Lowest costs does not generally create a good. It creates a marginal enterprise.

    Aesthetics are forms of capital that are perhaps, the best investment that any civilization can make.

    For a country like the UK, whose history is an industry, you’d think that such a principle would be better understood. For a country that is creating demand through immigration, cash by selling off it’s assets, and the illusion of prosperity by dilution, inflation and redistribution, rather than by increases in productivity, it is understandable why a myth of exceptionalism would be a useful distraction from the fact that the UK is selling off its exceptionalism and it’s heritage, and would do even more so along with it’s taxi subsidies.

    Prices alone do not a world make. The purpose of the market is exploration. The purpose of unbridled market is prevent government exploitation. THe purpose of the regulated market is to capitalize SOMETHING for a social good. And not all social goods are consumables. Some social goods capitalize distortions to create beauty, which is a high return for a society, as all monuments, arts and architecture demonstrate.

    So, instead of universally pursuing consumption as an ultimate good. Instead of the keynesian virtue of spending. Perhaps we should balance our capitalist strategy with the art of saving. It took english civilization a very long time to create a culture of saving, and the institution of interest, so that the middle aged could save until they were old, and the old could lend to the young, in a virtuous cycle of investment that distributed the risk of long term calculation across a vast number of people, and wherein retirement security was an insurance scheme for the underclass rather than a mandate of the majority. This virtuous cycle was undermined. Perhaps we should return to it, and to other forms of capitalizing our civilization, so that we leave something behind for our heirs rather than the record of a visitation by locusts.

    Subsidizing quality is the entire point of aesthetics and the arts. And capitalizing everything from street signs, to cabbies to historic buildings to libraries and museums is an antidote to anti-historicism.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-08-16 08:57:00 UTC

  • You mean, taking a break from working for comedy relief by doing some public ser

    You mean, taking a break from working for comedy relief by doing some public service, of cleansing the informational commons of pretentious virtue signaling by proletarians unfit for reproduction? Well, it’s a DUTY I make time for, and I get satisfaction out of public service.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-08-12 18:34:14 UTC

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