Theme: Coercion

  • SECOND RESPONSE TO​ TURD FLINGING MONKEY (good material for countering critics)

    SECOND RESPONSE TO​ TURD FLINGING MONKEY

    (good material for countering critics)

    —“@Curt Doolittle You’ve simply proven my point. Under your system, everyone would sue everyone for any criticism, and this would have a far reaching silencing effect, which would make civil discourse impossible out of fear, and lead to violence as the natural consequence. You say “fewer public opinions of higher quality”, but in reality it would simply lead to the mass silencing on opinions which are not approved by the ruling class of judges who determine what is and isn’t approved.

    You accuse me of straw-manning while proving my point. Obviously under your system you would sue me and it would be left to judge to sort out. Maybe they side with you, maybe they side with me, but either way it rests on the personal beliefs, biases, and interpretations of judges with no input from the people. This is rule by judges, but you don’t see it that way in the same way that Communists would reject the idea that their system leads to a Dictatorship. They would scoff at the idea that they support Dictators, even though that would inevitably happen (and has happened) whenever their system is implemented.”—

    So how would judges and JURIES make decisions on the truthfulness, due diligence, and harm of a statement – and why would that be DISCRETIONARY rather than DECIDABLE?

    In other words, since P consists of a methodology for such due diligence under law, such that you know, and the court knows, and the jury knows, you performed sufficient due diligence to satisfy demand for decidability before making a claim – then whether the claim is later found true or false is immaterial.

    And if found against you, retraction and equal promotion would be required – plus court costs.

    In this case you did not criticize wether that method of due diligence would provide decidability versus discretion. You assumed P is an ideology or philosophy rather than a methodology where one part of that methodology which consists of those steps of due diligence.

    And you did not criticize whether that methodology will in fact provide decidability rather than discretion that you accuse me of fostering.

    The answer is, that you are lazy, didn’t do your due diligence, and sought attention and signaling and perhaps income by criticizing that which you did not understand is a formal (in the grammatical sense ) logic.

    And like every excuse maker in history you are trying to preserve your source of attention, signaling, self image, and possible income, by externalizing costs onto others – in my case defense of my work, it’s brand, and the potential to offer a viable solution to conquest by the sophisms of the left.

    Now, were ths law in place, you would no doubt simply have done your due diligence and PAID THE COST YOURSELF, rather than making a dishonest statement in public and forcing me to bear the cost of defending it.

    Or you could have, at the very least, engaged in reciprocity, produced a list of questions, and either published those questions or asked me to answer them for you.

    Instead you made an assertion without the effort and knowledge of doing so and forced me to bear a cost. In other words, you’re a thief.

    P asks you to perform due diligence before polluting the informational commons with falsehoods. P consists of a methodology that you can use and the court can use to test whether you performed due diligence.

    P doesn’t ask us to know the truth. it asks us to perform due diligence against making false and harmful statements that pollute the information commons.

    The jury is exceptionally good at testing whether one did due diligence, and whether that due diligence is reasonable.

    Now, could keynesian economics survive? I don’t think so. Could postmodern academy survive? I don’t think so. But conservatism and anglo libertarianism can because they consists of nothing other than what I am proposing: rule of law with full accounting of display word and deed.

    Stifling discourse isn’t the point. Stifling the stupid, ignorant, lazy, dishonest, and malfeasant is the point.

    You would adapt your behavior. your returns on laziness in exchange for attention, signals, and possible income would be lower, and therefore the cost to the informational commons for the damage you do to it would be lower.

    The problem with our law is the increase in discretion under activist pressure because there is no formal logic to the law that limits its abuse.

    Now there is.

    No more lies. No more fraudulent returns. Not in commerce, not in finance, not in economics and politics – and not in shit-talking virtue signaling, attention seeking nonsense from the peanut gallery.

    Pay your way to enlightenment. Don’t make others pay to educate you in defense of the commons you seek to pollute.

    –follow up–

    (and it kind of pains me to point out that rule of law, which is the method that separates the west from ALL OTHER PEOPLES and is the single most influential reason for our success in the ancient and modern worlds, is how we live and how we always have lived other than under communism, socialism, and discretionary fascism. Rule of law is the goal of all peoples. It is GOVERNMENT in the via positiva that is discretionary. It is RULE in the via negativa by LAW that is not discretionary. WHile there is value in discretion in the allocation of punishments there is very little value in discretion of truth or falsehood. And despite what you (naively) might think, the courts are absurdly good at what they do. Despite the fact that we have ‘shitty’ laws. Particularly shitty laws defending men from women and the state.)


    Source date (UTC): 2019-03-07 07:41:00 UTC

  • “If you won’t fight, you don’t matter.”— It’s not complicated

    –“If you won’t fight, you don’t matter.”—

    It’s not complicated.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-03-06 19:24:11 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1103375743013154816

  • “If you won’t fight, you don’t matter.”— It’s not complicated

    –“If you won’t fight, you don’t matter.”—

    It’s not complicated.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-03-06 14:23:00 UTC

  • HOBBES WAS RIGHT – PINKER ON THE DATA (CurtD: Rousseau was not only wrong but su

    HOBBES WAS RIGHT – PINKER ON THE DATA

    (CurtD: Rousseau was not only wrong but suicidal, Locke was wrong but proposed a solution, and Hobbes was right but had the wrong solution.)

    by Steven Pinker (Via @[100024818064292:2048:Rosenborg Predmetsky])

    “From Rousseau to the Thanksgiving editorialist of Chapter 1, many intellectuals have embraced the image of peaceable, egalitarian, and ecology-loving natives. But in the past two decades anthropologists have gathered data on life and death in pre-state societies rather than accepting the warm and fuzzy stereotypes. What did they find? In a nutshell: Hobbes was right, Rousseau was wrong.

    To begin with, the stories of tribes out there somewhere who have never heard of violence turn out to be urban legends. Margaret Mead’s descriptions of peace-loving New Guineans and sexually nonchalant Samoans were based on perfunctory research and turned out to be almost perversely wrong.

    As the anthropologist Derek Freeman later documented, Samoans may beat or kill their daughters if they are not virgins on their wedding night, a young man who cannot woo a virgin may rape one to extort her into eloping, and the family of a cuckolded husband may attack and kill the adulterer.68 The !Kung San of the Kalahari Desert had been described by Elizabeth Marshall Thomas as “the harmless people” in a book with that title. But as soon as anthropologists camped out long enough to accumulate data, they discovered that the !Kung San have a murder rate higher than that of American inner cities. They learned as well that a group of the San had recently avenged a murder by sneaking into the killer’s group and executing every man, woman, and child as they slept.

    But at least the !Kung San exist. In the early 1970s the New York Times Magazine reported the discovery of the “gentle Tasaday” of the Philippine rainforest, a people with no words for conflict, violence, or weapons. The Tasaday turned out to be local farmers dressed in leaves for a photo opportunity so that cronies of Ferdinand Marcos could set aside their “homeland” as a preserve and enjoy exclusive mineral and logging rights

    The first eight bars, which range from almost 10 percent to almost 60 percent, come from indigenous peoples in South America and New Guinea. The nearly invisible bar at the bottom represents the United States and Europe in the twentieth century and includes the statistics from two world wars. Moreover, Keeley and others have noted that

    native peoples are dead serious when they carry out warfare. Many of them make weapons as damaging as their technology permits, exterminate their enemies when they can get away with it, and enhance the experience by torturing captives, cutting off trophies, and feasting on enemy flesh.

    Counting societies instead of bodies leads to equally grim figures. In 1978 the anthropologist Carol Ember calculated that 90 percent of hunter-gatherer societies are known to engage in warfare, and 64 percent wage war at least once every two years.

    Even the 90 percent figure may be an underestimate, because anthropologists often cannot study a tribe long enough to measure outbreaks that occur every decade or so (imagine an anthropologist studying the peaceful Europeans between 1918 and 1938). In 1972 another anthropologist, W. T. Divale, investigated 99 groups

    of hunter-gatherers from 37 cultures, and found that 68 were at war at the time, 20 had been at war five to twenty-five years before, and all the others reported warfare in the more distant past.

    Based on these and other ethnographic surveys, Donald Brown includes conflict, rape, revenge, jealousy, dominance, and male coalitional violence as human universals.

    It is, of course, understandable that people are squeamish about acknowledging the violence of pre-state societies.

    For centuries the stereotype of the {58} savage savage was used as a pretext to wipe out indigenous peoples and steal their lands. But surely it is unnecessary to paint a false picture of a people as peaceable and ecologically conscientious in order to condemn the great crimes against them, as if genocide were wrong only when the victims are nice guys.

    The prevalence of violence in the kinds of environments in which we evolved does not mean that our species has a death wish, an innate thirst for blood, or a territorial imperative. There are good evolutionary reasons for the members of an intelligent species to try to live in peace. Many computer simulations and mathematical models have shown that cooperation pays off in evolutionary terms as long as the cooperators have brains with the right combination of cognitive and emotional faculties.76 Thus while conflict is a human universal, so is conflict resolution. “


    Source date (UTC): 2019-03-06 10:56:00 UTC

  • by Rosenborg Predmetsky Something I’ve been considering: A forceful imposition o

    by Rosenborg Predmetsky

    Something I’ve been considering: A forceful imposition of obscenity laws that criminalizes and censors pornography and public display of sexually arousing material, because the catastrophic psychological insecurity created in women by such media is precisely what motivates them to so profoundly resent men that they engage in their sociopathic revaluation of values that privileges the morbidly obese, the ugly, the mutilated, the masculinized, etc.

    Men exist not only to protect women from other men, but also from the ruthlessness of intra-sexual competition between women, and we protect women from other women, because the female underclass lashes out at males when they are made to feel worthless.

    Women have a need to be desired, seen and recognized, and being sexually desirable is one of their main means of doing so. On the one hand, the unnatural supra-normal stimulus generated by the ubiquity of fattening food and a sedentary lifestyle, has caused women to become monstrously ugly, and on the other hand, totally unrealistic portrayals of female beauty causes even the more attractive women to be extremely insecure. So the situation we’re in is *profoundly* unnatural.

    Women need to test men to feel safe and desired, to test their loyalty and desire. But they can never feel safe or desired in our current context, and their reaction to this despair is the kind of despairing rage that is the rough equivalent of a mass incel shooting among men. I think even 2nd wave feminists are actually on to something when they argue that women shouldn’t have to shave their bodies or face.

    Some women will complain that men are stifling their sexual expression. And they are right. But men need to learn to say “no” to women. Cultivating a healthy limiting impulse would lead to much happier men and women alike. Patriarchy, properly understood and implemented, is a necessary precondition for a healthy society because female sexuality is always already as aggressive and dominating as men, just in different ways.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-03-06 10:42:00 UTC

  • “I want leftists deplatformed from west culture and inventions.”

    —“I want leftists deplatformed from west culture and inventions.”—


    Source date (UTC): 2019-03-05 23:49:52 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1103080215528554497

  • “I want leftists deplatformed from west culture and inventions.”

    —“I want leftists deplatformed from west culture and inventions.”—


    Source date (UTC): 2019-03-05 18:49:00 UTC

  • “”Decolonize the curriculum is simply forced prohibition of cultural appropriati

    —“”Decolonize the curriculum is simply forced prohibition of cultural appropriation – take away the science. No phones, internet, semiconductors, universal polyphase power grid, no cars, elevators, escalators, forget the printing press.””— James Santagata


    Source date (UTC): 2019-03-04 15:17:40 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1102588928723427329

  • THE ONE SOURCE OF SOVEREIGNTY, LIBERTY, AND FREEDOM Sovereignty, Liberty, and Fr

    THE ONE SOURCE OF SOVEREIGNTY, LIBERTY, AND FREEDOM

    Sovereignty, Liberty, and Freedom are produced by one means, and one means only: the organized application of violence by a sufficient percentage of ordinary men, to prevent any and all alternative conditions. The law of sovereignty constitutes the logic by which that sovereignty, liberty, and freedom are preserved. An independent judiciary under the natural law of sovereignty preserves that one law of sovereignty until it no longer does. and at that point there is no recourse but those men who demand that sovereignty, liberty, and freedom regardless of cost.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-03-04 11:44:00 UTC

  • “”Decolonize the curriculum is simply forced prohibition of cultural appropriati

    —“”Decolonize the curriculum is simply forced prohibition of cultural appropriation – take away the science. No phones, internet, semiconductors, universal polyphase power grid, no cars, elevators, escalators, forget the printing press.””— James Santagata


    Source date (UTC): 2019-03-04 10:17:00 UTC