Theme: Coercion

  • IS THE STATE MORAL? —“Dear mr Doolittle, How can the state, based on extortion

    IS THE STATE MORAL?

    —“Dear mr Doolittle, How can the state, based on extortion and theft, be reciprocal? Real question. Not some goofy troll. Kind regards”— Sietze Bosman @fryskefilosoof

    The state enforces order (cooperation) sufficient to deny competitors access to the territory, resources, people, their production, and networks of productivity and trade. And to deny internal inhibitors to the income necessary to pay for it. It does this by suppressing local …

    … rent seeking, corruption, and transaction costs, and centralizing these returns as ‘taxation’, where concentration of that income can be devoted to the production of commons and the multipliers produced by such commons. this creates opportunity for centralized corruption …

    … and alliance with the state against the people, but without exception, the returns on state vs non-state are obvious: non state’s cannot and do not exist. Even those claimed by ‘libertarians’ are just borderlands defended by states or empires, investing in settlement by …

    … permissiveness we translate as liberty. Since settlers provide claims to territory which can be defended by arms, because in fact, they are investing in that territory, and reciprocity is the only international natural law that we can observe. We defend what we invest in.

    The only means of policing the state that we know of is rule of law through the courts of universal standing in matters both private and common.We have had this revoked by the state during the modern period, and we’ve been disintermediated from the courts as our means of defense.

    Democracy can never control anything other than voting an oligarchy into or out of office. Its insufficient for policy or defense because representatives are not required to state terms of contract before they enter office. So with democracy, disintermediation from the courts …

    … the only remaining method of insurance of sovereignty, liberty, freedom, and reciprocity is the militia and revolt.

    So the state must and can collect fees for defense, and the courts. It cannot compete unless it can collect fees for investment in the commons. Paying such people richly if small in number reduces their chances of corruption. But allowing them to buy votes through …

    … redistribution; and provides finance and internationals (large scale) with access to rents, rather than locals whose rents were suppressed (small scale), merely shifting the problem from many distributed rent seekers to fewer larger centralized rent seekers.

    This would appear to be a null trade, but it’s not, since suppression of local corruption and rent seeking provides the economic velocity that makes finance and internationals possible. So we must simply repeat the process of using the courts and the law to suppress …

    … new, larger organizations of rent seekers and corruption. And this process never ends. Man invents. So men will invent new means of rents and corruption, and other men will use the market for the suppression of parasitism that we call the courts and the law to stop them.

    In this sense the (positive ) market for goods, services, and information is the one we are most aware of. We are somewhat aware of the government (not state) as a market for commons. But of equal import is the (negative) market for the suppression of ir-reciprocity …

    … whether in the market for consumption (goods services information) or the market for multipliers (commons) we call government. Technically speaking the ‘state’ consists of the assets of the polity and the law its regulator, and the government a means of producing commons.

    Where commons includes the state and its holdings and the means of defense whether military, judicial or sheriff.

    Collectively the government and the state also provide the services of an insurer of last resort. The problem is maintaining its role as insurer, investor, …

    … and resolver of disputes, while not allowing the public to demand redistributions that limit their responsibility rather than insurance that retains it.

    I hope that is enough of a picture for you. No you can’t live statelessly except in a desert, tundra, or artic waste.

    That’s why no one has or does.

    I suppose that like many people who can consume information for entertainment and status you assume man is moral, rather than amoral, and choosing the moral and immoral as incentives provide. We can in fact read others. However history says that reading creates moral behavior …

    … not that moral behavior is intuitive. As anyone who has raised children finds rather obvious.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-01 10:43:00 UTC

  • So the point is to get them to shoot at you. Now, it’s not clear anyone will act

    So the point is to get them to shoot at you. Now, it’s not clear anyone will actually do that. And especially if the military has heard our demands.

    But the conduct of that civil war is mostly a matter of a presence in washington while the immigrant cities are reduced to chaos.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-09-30 22:24:54 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1178797896935845889

    Reply addressees: @AuthorityDAD

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    @AuthorityDAD In ukraine we had around 500k-1M people in the city center. They function as a forest for the maybe 1000 guys (hard right) that did all the fighting. In america it’s even easier because the moment they fire on us we win. Just like ukraine. And USA loses all its world legitimacy.

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    @curtdoolittle

    @AuthorityDAD In ukraine we had around 500k-1M people in the city center. They function as a forest for the maybe 1000 guys (hard right) that did all the fighting. In america it’s even easier because the moment they fire on us we win. Just like ukraine. And USA loses all its world legitimacy.

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  • In ukraine we had around 500k-1M people in the city center. They function as a f

    In ukraine we had around 500k-1M people in the city center. They function as a forest for the maybe 1000 guys (hard right) that did all the fighting. In america it’s even easier because the moment they fire on us we win. Just like ukraine. And USA loses all its world legitimacy.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-09-30 22:22:46 UTC

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  • No, what I do is legal. You just can’t ORGANIZE action. We have free speech here

    No, what I do is legal. You just can’t ORGANIZE action. We have free speech here in the states still… sort of. πŸ˜‰


    Source date (UTC): 2019-09-30 21:55:13 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1178790427622887428

    Reply addressees: @eruditenights

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1178788710768242688


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    @curtdoolittle I’m interested for later, can we be punished using sedition laws for donating to you? Thinking long term as, as soon as I’m financially stable I plan to donate. Was wondering if we’re vulnerable

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  • No, if he called for one, instead of warned of one. On the other hand, we know w

    No, if he called for one, instead of warned of one. On the other hand, we know who y’all are. Because you’re creating a nice public record for prosecution ‘after’. Assuming there is an After.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-09-30 21:01:09 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1178776822114328576

    Reply addressees: @grantstern

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1178698273068068865


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    Isn’t it an impeachable offense on its face if a President calls for #CivilWar2?

    I believe so.

    #ImpeachTrumpNow

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  • So it’s not that Single Payer in isolation is the cause of civil war, it’s that

    So it’s not that Single Payer in isolation is the cause of civil war, it’s that we are already in a civil war, and we’re looking for any issue to turn it hot. (Again, I think they just gave it to us. We’ll know. And like I said. Winter is for the right, what it was for Russians.)


    Source date (UTC): 2019-09-30 14:33:03 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1178679153945698306

    Reply addressees: @AugustusOctav10 @ScottMGreer

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    @AugustusOctav10 @ScottMGreer Incorrect. We are in a civil war already, that is confined to the public discourse, academy, media, state bureaucracy, and political domains. ANY attempt to further left objectives will result in civil war. I’m almost certain the impeachment process or election turns it violent.

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    @AugustusOctav10 @ScottMGreer Incorrect. We are in a civil war already, that is confined to the public discourse, academy, media, state bureaucracy, and political domains. ANY attempt to further left objectives will result in civil war. I’m almost certain the impeachment process or election turns it violent.

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  • Incorrect. We are in a civil war already, that is confined to the public discour

    Incorrect. We are in a civil war already, that is confined to the public discourse, academy, media, state bureaucracy, and political domains. ANY attempt to further left objectives will result in civil war. I’m almost certain the impeachment process or election turns it violent.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-09-30 14:31:34 UTC

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  • We can practice natural eugenics by tolerance, soft eugenics by compensation, an

    We can practice natural eugenics by tolerance, soft eugenics by compensation, and hard eugenics by force. Missouri is simply taking the natural route.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-09-30 01:10:26 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1178477169082880000

    Reply addressees: @mcbridetd @delong @stltoday

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  • There is a wonderful spectrum of options available: persuading, providing incent

    There is a wonderful spectrum of options available: persuading, providing incentives, buying off, denying choice, and eliminating. “Something for everyone” so to speak. Watch.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-09-29 21:57:15 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1178428552859049990

    Reply addressees: @HermannArminius @ClownBa73413423

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    @curtdoolittle @ClownBa73413423 It is. But good luck to the one who has to convince those who still benefit from the structure to drop it. Or to accept and understand an attack on what they see as the only structure keeping out chaos.

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  • SO WHAT YOU MEAN is (a) you want to rally together in large groups so that we do

    SO WHAT YOU MEAN is (a) you want to rally together in large groups so that we don’t have to hunt you down house to house? (b) You want to drag down commerce. (c) We want to cut power, data, (money), water, and transport to cities. (d) We are going to get the civil war we want?


    Source date (UTC): 2019-09-29 12:17:52 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1178282743681241090

    Reply addressees: @PattyArquette @GOP @DNC

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