Theme: Class

  • FYI: TRYING TO CREATE A DISCOURSE WITH THE RATIONAL AND SCIENTIFIC LEFT. Dear Lo

    FYI: TRYING TO CREATE A DISCOURSE WITH THE RATIONAL AND SCIENTIFIC LEFT.

    Dear Lord Keynes,

    Becker-Posner?

    Given that our criticisms of the status quo and past are the same, but our solutions overlap or are different, it might be interesting, beneficial for both of us, and beneficial for the Alt’s both left and right, if we updated and replaced the Becker-Posner debate.

    I can see educating both sides, and perhaps allying both sides against the status quo. But at the very worst, it would increase the reach for both of us.

    Neither of us have worthy debate partners. So our arguments are often lost in a swamp of sophisms. Improving the quality of the debate means improving the message, explanation, and nuance.

    And I don’t necessarily want us to debate each other. It’s more that we could both make our cases about specific questions and let the ‘jury’ decide, as did Becker and Posner.

    In other words, you make the alt-(new)-left and I make the alt-(new)-right arguments. And we draw both audiences into the discourse.

    Just a thought.

    Curt.

    **Lord Keynes**

    Apologies, I only just saw this now. By Becker-Posner debate, do you mean a debate about the virtue of Keynesian economic policy versus Neoclassical/Austrian policies? I am happy to have a Facebook debate or written debate at some blog or appropriate place

    **Curt Doolittle**

    Glad you responded.

    Now to start with, I don’t see myself as an ‘austrian’, so much as understanding what the german austrian(monarchists), jewish austrian(Separatists), classical liberals(protestants), french democratic socialist(catholics), Fascists(reactionaries), communists(everywhere) were attempting to achieve. And that I sort of started out as a classical liberal and ended up between the german austrian (monarchist) and anglo-rule-of-law(protestant) position. But I make use of economic operationalism: a demand for sovereignty over transfers. (I’ve spent quite a few thousand words deflating and defrauding the entire jewish austrian program of mises, rothbard, and hoppe. Ironically, while living around the corner from Mises’ home in Ukraine.)

    But rather than rehash the past, I was thinking more about discussing present and future, with each of us providing a criticism and solution to questions from the new-left, new-right perspectives. So, I would not so much want to debate each other, but to say “my suggestion to this problem is…” and let the jury decide. Although, this requires good faith on both sides of the debate, assuming the good faith of the other party.

    Now, you and I have both been at this a long time and you were already ahead of me when I started. And I don’t know your ambitions or level of interest in affecting the public debate. But I would like to, and I think there is public interest in, raising the level of discourse in the ‘new’ (post-postwar) era debate, when we have a century of evidence and data to work with rather than extensions of the enlightenment fantasies about what human nature might be – and what ‘good’ means.

    Karl Smith and I talked about this a few times but he and his peers got nabbed by Forbes. And I think the world needs it. The problem is it’s nearly impossible (it is impossible ) to find people that understand these issues from both sides. I the sense that they understand the truths, goods, and preferences, that lead to current assumptions that economic and political policy solves for. In fact, I am not sure I know many people other than you who do.

    I thought we might achieve a couple of things together:

    … (a) change the current moral and ideological debate into a rational and scientific one. The people need to hear debates that are both morally intuitive to them and scientifically explicable to them. The current debate, just like all 20th century debate, emphasizes the technical while assuming an unstated moral, and this disconnects people from the arguments. The primary reason being that in the early 20th we were moving people from lack of consumption to the point where we brought almost everyone into the consumer classes, then to the point where too man are seeking little but consumption for the purpose of obtaining signaling, while others are stagnating. (in my view, top and bottom against the middle).

    … (b) Demonstrate that new/old left and new/old right criticisms of the status quo and the past are the same, but that our solutions to those criticisms differ quite a bit. And that it is a difference in moral bias, that those moral biases are not arbitrary but meaningful, and that those meaningful moral biases are the reason these questions are either not understood by anyone, not explained to the people, of too much political use to explain to the people, or if the truth of those differences is unpalatable to the people.

    … (c) To improve our arguments a great deal (I think of the Alan Coombs vs Sean Hannity discourses as too low, and the becker posner debates as about right, and the nonsense we see between the Krugman/Stieglitz/DeLongs and the Ferguson/Mankiws as obscurantist.)

    … (d) to raise our visibility and the visibility of our arguments, and to see if, over time, we can get picked up by one of the media venues that are looking for quality content – and see if we can have even more influence. Not that I have a lot of time for this, or time for that, but I have enough time to crank out something every day, few days, or week.

    I don’t particularly need more visibility. I have enough already. And when I publish this year I’ll get a lot more attention both good and bad.

    Anyway, I hope you take this as the compliment I mean it to be.

    -Cheers

    **Lord Keynes**

    (1) The first point of difference (I imagine) is the Austrian/Neoclassical idea that free markets have a tendency towards general equilibrium and hence economic coordination by flexible wages and prices and a (supposed) coordinating loanable funds market that equates savings and investment. You will never get anywhere unless you realise that this is false: it is the product of marginalists from the 1870s onwards who had physics envy and wanted to model a market economy like a self-equilibrating physical system.

    (2) The Neoclassical/Austrian model is false because

    … (i) market systems are complex human systems subject to degrees of non-calculable probability and uncertainty. Investment is essentially driven by expectations which are highly subjective and even irrational, and come in waves of general optimism and pessimism

    … (ii) the loanable funds model is a terrible model of aggregate

    investment (partly because the mythical natural rate of interest

    can’t be defined outside one commodity worlds) but very

    importantly because of (i)

    … (iii) the price and wage is highly inflexible, and even if it were flexible all sorts of factors prevent convergence to equilibrium states anyway (e.g., debt deflation, failure of the Pigou effect)

    (3) also, the obsessive/compulsive fixation with the supply-side is what cripples Austrian/Neoclassical economics. In our capital-rich Western economies, what mostly constrains our prosperity is the demand-side

    **Curt Doolittle**

    Yes of course. And I don’t understand this response to my question.

    As I said, *I am not an austrian* but a critic of it – and libertarianism for that matter.

    So, we share the same criticisms. And I probably support very similar solutions. (Direct distribution of increases in money supply to the consumer.)

    But I do understand that there are differences in the moral and political biases, and what i want to discuss is those solutions. And I think our differences would be in moral and political biases.

    I think there was far more going on than modeling on physical systems. Instead, it was moral and class and cultural biases, with the modeling a justification.

    *What do we do about the demand side and how do we manage the political consequences?*

    And that difference will be between the conservative(meritocratic) and progressive(equalitarian) biases.

    I think this is the better discussion to have. For the simple reason that the answer will become a necessity on the visible time horizon.

    **Lord Keynes**

    (1) I think all attempts to argue for absolute property rights based on deontological moral theories fail. I find Rothbard’s natural rights theory so lacking in any defensive foundation that I’m surprised people take it seriously:

    (2) all objective ethical theories have problems and weak points. The one that (to my mind) has **the least serious problems and is most defensible** (compared to all others) is some kind of consequentialism that takes account of fairness and rationally-justifiable rights as also ends we should aim at, on order to make human societies flourish:

    Strong but qualified property rights are justifiable. Absolute property rights are not. E.g., your property rights are worth jack once your nation becomes Brazil.

    (3) I suppose on the conservative/meritocratic versus progressive/equalitarian issue, you are talking about Bell curve differences in distribution of IQs? And the standard conservative complaints that welfare states are dysgenic, and that fertility differentials in the West are now dysgenic? Maybe. But we are smart people and I don’t doubt we can fix such problems with genetic engineering and other reproductive technologies, quite possibly even before the end of this century

    Rothbard’s Argument for Natural Rights and the Absolute Right to Private Property is Totally Flawed

    And it is easy to demonstrate so, and I expand below on an old post of mine. First, Rothbard did not attempt to justify his natural rights…

    **Curt Doolittle**

    (0) The mainstream and Keyensian models do not account for all, or sufficient changes in capital (balance sheet) and instead only account for changes in income (income statements) that measure velocity. In other words, I view the mainstream as operating under a portfolio of measurements that are the result of cherry picking.

    (1) Agreed on absoluteness of property *as you mean it* – not constrained by externalities. But this says nothing about the method by which we limit it. The question is, how do we limit it? (what do we use as the means of insurance?)

    (2) Yes, to consequentialism, but that results in political decidability being provided by your item (#3) –

    … (a) Eugenic/homogeneous/monopoly/large polities (china and japan) vs

    … (b) Eugenic/homogenous/market(federation)/small equalitarian-polities (northern europe) vs

    … (c) Dysgenic/heterogeneous/large/caste-polities (indian empire, brazil – and all of south america, the islamic empires, the Roman empire.).

    (3) It’s not true that something can’t be done about it. You’re starting with these presumptions:

    … a) A ‘we’ that preserves current state and political order.

    … b) There is an unlimited value to the scale of a polity.

    … c) We must compromise with one another rather than separate by moral bias.

    … d) And, to extend Camus:

    … … i) the first question of personal philosophy is ‘why do I not commit suicide?’

    … … ii) the first question of ethical philosophy is ‘why do I not kill you, take your things?’

    … … iii) the first question of political philosophy is ‘why do I and mine not kill you and yours, and take your land and your things, and enslave your women and children?’

    (4) That separatism by moral bias into large/dysgenic/heterogeneous/caste-polities vs small/eugenic/homogenous/egalitarian-polities would not produce higher standards of living for BOTH dysgenic and eugenic polities. In fact, the evidence is that it DOES produce superior results when these polities specialize: Europe and china evolve rapidly, and heterogeneous polities degrade and stagnate.

    And so, (given that we are in the midst of a cold civil war at the moment), since we both agree that the status quo is somewhere between immoral and pseudoscientific or both, it would be informative to hold a debate about what we might do about it.

    Because as far as I now, I know, and a few of us know, that it is entirely possible to end the financialism of the economy and the upward redistribution that results from that financialism – and to do so by direct distribution of increases in money supply to the population and extraction of that redistribution through taxation of the resulting profits of individuals, business, and industry. It is also possible and likely preferable to abandon the use of consumer credit in parallel to the direct distribution of increases in the money supply.

    The social consequences of which would likely reverse our current immoral and pseudoscientific condition (and the associated social problems.)

    So I would like to talk about those two options, whether we talk about them as separate polities, or a combined polity that compromises.

    The reason being is that I am fairly certain this cold civil war will turn hot in a visible time horizon. And the only way to avoid it is to provide a solution that makes that hot civil war unnecessary.

    And I thought that together we might ‘alter the intellectual status quo’ by discussing it.

    There are precious few people who can discuss these things. In no small part than because those of us outside of the academy are the only people who feel free to do so.

    -Cheers


    Source date (UTC): 2017-07-30 10:01:00 UTC

  • BUILDING A “TOTEM POLE” OF ARGUMENTS BY CLASS —“Eli? The dude who talks about

    BUILDING A “TOTEM POLE” OF ARGUMENTS BY CLASS

    —“Eli? The dude who talks about executing everyone that doesn’t share his beliefs?”— Emil Suric

    Remember Eli’s audience is a different audience that expresses ideas in different terms. He is talking to people who want to revolt and fight. But if you are in his audience, by comparison to others who address his audience, we are talking miles apart.

    My point in sharing is that no matter what your audience the use of propertarian methods has a profound effect on your arguments.

    I mean, I could argue ANY position using propertarian arguments. And that means that I succeeded in developing a value neutral language of ethics and politics.

    The fact that I argue for meritocratic natural law and the elimination of deception and conflict is a CHOICE.

    I mean, he is open about speaking as “a working class man’s version of doolittle’. I sort of think of us as ‘master-blaster’ with me talking up at the intellectual level and he at the emotional and masculine level.( retaliatory morality – war.) (“it’s advantageous that it’s true, because we are at war, and we want advantages in war”)

    What I would like to do is fill in the totem pole between us so to speak.

    I see, for example, Joel speaking as a lower middle and middle class version of what I do. (optimistic moral rules,) (“Yes it’s true, but we must err heavily on the side of caution.”) My hope is that joel retains this position but that I can help him express it in increasingly sophisticated language. He is *extremely* talented so I suspect he can get there.

    I see Bill taking the middle and upper middle class position and successfully arguing for it even though using fully aristocratic language (scientific) now. (pragmatic, but forgiving, moral law ) (“true is true, but we must be practical about it.”)

    I see me, Daniel, Alexander, and James Augustus arguing the fully aristocratic position. (absolute law). (“true is true , and not only must we live with it, but it will make us and mankind better for doing so.”)

    I want at some point to attract a few people who use it for purely redistributive purposes (we will find that person among the canadians or french or germans I assume).

    I mean, if you look at my *solutions* they’re pretty ‘socialist’ in the sense that I favor pretty heavy redistribution to teammates (kin especially). And kin with the same moral-ethic bias as I do, (again, as bill has eloquently stated). I mean, my subconscious goal is to eliminate conflict by driving everyone to mutually beneficial cooperation and simply reducing the rate of reproduction of the underclasses until they incrementally disappear.

    Anyway. The point is that all the classes argue a bit differently given their perception of *risk*. And that we need people to prosecute falsehood in every class by every means.

    Then we can trade between the classes.

    Rather than conduct a warfare of propaganda and lies.

    -Curt


    Source date (UTC): 2017-07-29 16:37:00 UTC

  • by Morgan Warstler Moldbug and reactionaries don’t stare into the abyss. Human d

    by Morgan Warstler

    Moldbug and reactionaries don’t stare into the abyss. Human domination is not cultural. It is value driven. There are big dumb guys and smart little guys and the guy who can muster the big dumb guys is the one who can drive the most ROI VALUE out of the rest, by organizing them to his plan. As such value creators are judged by the only true god, the market. Xianty & Western Civ WON bc it best approximated Capitalism. Most of 10 commandments are basically valorizing property rights and servicing “god” (the market). Cultures then / States – are ALWAYS controlled by VALUE CREATORS. Cuba, Russia, US, France – the smart guys best able to drive ROI are the NORMATIVE HEGEMONY. In any system, the same guys win. Reread that. HOWEVER, in each system, based on history, geography, natural resources, and on and on, the Value creators establish states and then states (controlled ALWAYS by the value creating crowd underneath COMPETE. The logical contraction of Rx guys? THEY ARE NOT THE VALUE CREATORS, they are guys who want to have power bc they GREW UP IN the winningest state. Describing the problem does not create value. In real terms this means: NOBODY BUT GOD KING ENTREPRENEURS get to decide the value of man. He can be black, Chinese, white – the ONLY and FINAL say of that mans worth? The value creator who says, I CAN MAKE $2/hr ROI and keep him sated.” There is no state, no culture, no gelatinous tribe that that CAN OVERRULE one value creator who says, this man is profitable to me. Said simply: RX fails bc it doesn’t know it is my tribe’s bitch. And push comes shove, we’ll remove them from the gene pool.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-07-26 00:07:00 UTC

  • ON RADICALISM, ARISTOCRACY, AND PAGANISM, (read this) (and prepare for “ouch” mo

    ON RADICALISM, ARISTOCRACY, AND PAGANISM,

    (read this) (and prepare for “ouch” moments)

    —“Hi Curt. I’ve been following you for a long time. Your radical ideas inspired me to change my own life. I wanted to tell you I think you’re probably one of if not the best voices out there for young men. I was wondering what inspired your change from a more libertarian scientific worldview to a much more revolutionary pagan worldview like you have now.”— Dagon

    Well you know, this kind of thing matters to me a lot. It always makes my day. And If I can help young men then that is as good or better as being remembered in the history of thought.

    ON RADICAL REVOLUTIONARY

    There are a couple of things that turned me into a revolutionary.

    The constant lying by leftist politicians via the media. The constant lying by the media. The fact that I was very well read by the time I got to university, and that I felt that most professors were lying or propagandizing. That when I went into the business world, I worked for three companies that lied aggressively to customers (all jewish fwiw). Then when I worked with at least moderately observant christians it was the opposite.

    But it was how I was treated in divorce from a woman who cheated on me, and child support – which I can understand for a year or so but not more so. And I certainly don’t think children or women have a right to previous standards of living. or community property. omg.

    Then how courts said I had to hire people by anything other than merit. And that it was illegal to try to discover people’s merit via testing. And then how women have excessive rights in the work place, and that there is no means of defense against it. And that between false unemployment claims, and false sexual harassment claims, and then the all out impossible requirement that CEO’s understand and are accountable for everything their employees do (the impossible), but employees, bureaucrats, (the irs), police, judges, and politicians are not accountable for anything they do.

    Then how the courts simply punish the hell out of poor white guys, homeowners, and minivan-mom-drivers who are easy targets, but leave us victims of all sorts of criminals because of costs of imprisoning them.

    Then how immigration was used as genocide against my people. I remember what life was like and how it changed, and I know the difference between homogenous and heterogeneous communities and what happens: a reduction in ‘precision’ which accumulates in a reduction of everything that makes a high trust polity possible.

    Then how my people were enslaved through fiat money and incrementally exterminated. It is one thing to use upward redistribution to increase the quality of a polity, and it is another to increase downward in redistribution to reduce the quality of the polity. At least the aryan method of upward redistribution produces transcendence in every possible method. But the jewish (levantine) method of downward redistribution produces regression and dysgenia.

    Then how every merger and acquisition lawyer and venture capitalist would tell me how to do something immoral in business – and that the better the law firm the more corrupting and immoral the legal advice. Compare that to the two ‘very christian’ female lawyers that would not help me defend against them by advocating feminist equalitarianism among share holders. I felt the world had gone mad.

    Then how during the divorce, when I was going in for cancer surgery, the court didn’t care and forced me to settle or delay my surgery until after a trial.

    Then how my ex-wife’s lawyer could use art and artifice through the courts to harass me in ways you cannot imagine to the point where I simply needed to leave the country in order to build a business.

    And how, during the recession why are landlord contracts given higher weight than other price contracts, when they have only debt service, and why is that debt service more important than other commitments when in fact, it’s all simply credit money (time). Why are creditors treated unequally, and not only unequally but the reverse of risk?

    The final blow was two fold 1) when obama criminalized me and thousands of others if we didn’t file a retroactive report on our overseas holdings. Holdings I had paid taxes on. When it was my only defense against the abuse of the courts by my ex-wife’s attorney to harass and blackmail me. And 2) when I had misunderstood a date of the sale of a business and thought the s-corp to c-corp change was done prior to the sale rather than after. While the IRS owed me a quarter of a million dollars refund because of the difference, they froze every asset I had on the globe and nearly destroyed by business and stranded me in a third world country without any money. Yet they told me I had no right of judicial defense unless I would go through a single court in person in california. I ask what was the maximum they could imagine I owed the IRS if I was wrong, and they said no more than 125k, (even though they owed me 250k), I said if they unfroze my assets or simply took 125k, I would send them the 125K, and then, we could correct the paperwork later. But no. So some lower middle class bimbo ex-bill collector can destroy my life without judicial review. And then disappeared for four weeks of government christmas holiday, leaving me no ability to act. Thankfully I had loan due from a small business of 50k, and that carried me for the three months it took to correct it. The truth is none of our irs collections make any difference. Our use of fiat money means that the timeliness of such payments is all but irrelevant. It’s all just power playing on the part of the govt and the bureaucracy.

    I left that experience with a lot less hair and an absolute determination to overthrow the current order and restore the constitution of natural law under which no discretionary action is possible without juridical defense, and where the citizen not the government is given the full benefit of the doubt.

    So instead of trying to simply produce the missing ‘bible of western civilization’: natural law, I developed a broader plan, and I’ve been working toward that plan, every single waking hour of every single day. And the opportunity to execute that plan is coming closer every day. And I am nothing if not painfully thorough, painfully disciplined, and painfully committed to that plan.

    So that incremental unjust tyranny is the reason I became a hostile revolutionary with endless conviction.

    ON OPTIMISITIC LIBERTARIANISM VS PESSIMISTIC SOVEREIGNTY

    The Anglo classical liberalism of the enlightenment was profoundly optimistic about both British future, their responsibility, and the nature of man. All the enlightenment thinkers were optimistic – other than the germans. They were cautious. They handled their caution by secularizing religion and retaining the conflation of christianity, where the anglo world had deflated (separated) religion(family and polity) and law(commerce and science) into their usual markets.

    But as the world wars hit us, we lost our convictions. The marxists, bolsheviks, and socialists were rallying our people against us with the promise of achievable wealth and equality, and inverting the social order in ways that the Church attempted but never could have imagined with promise of life after death, and at least the protection from the aristocracy by the church – and where the aristocracy would have exterminated more aggressively than Henry the 8th the monasteries, and thereby freed up vast capital held frozen by the backwardness of the church. (And where we will shortly have to exterminate the church-of-state we call secular anti-aristocratic-family socialism.)

    I am, by nature, a libertarian. I hate conflict. I like cooperation. I like people to be happy. I am overly generous by nature – which I should add, has not been good for me. My great joys have been creating successful companies and watching people prosper in them.

    But as I have learned through experience at all levels of society from my personal, to professional, to entrepreneurial, to financial, to economic, and to political – and now philosophical, I have come to understand a few very key issues.

    1) Our genes drive us so all political persuasion/discourse is meaningless.

    2) No one can be converted away from their genetic strategy. Many men can be because we form a hierarchy that is interdependent and so middle and lower men require middle and upper men to form an ‘army’. Women CAN be marginally converted to meritocracy, if all required to be married to bear children or vote. But otherwise vote anti-meritocratically (equalitarian) and in effect ‘marry the state’ thereby destroying the compromise between male and female reproductive strategies that we call the family: the smallest possible tribe in which men and women are both alphas.

    3) Majoritarian democracy forces the policy of persuasion which is meaningless, and therefore forces all of us to lie cheat in public policy rather than to use the houses of government as a means for exchange between peoples with very different interests.

    4) Aristocracy(meritocracy) is incompatible with democracy since there are always fewer competent than competent (Pareto rule). The end result of Democracy is authoritarian communism. As such the minority strategy of opposing the aristocracy via enfranchisement with the larger middle class was used by the larger lower classes against the middle and upper. And the end result is the destruction of western civilization by the combination of abrahamic religion and democratic equality.

    5) The Abrahamic program from its origin by the jews (resistance to the aristocracy), the christians (undermining the aristocracy), and the muslims (openly conquering the aristocracy) , to the marxists (openly revolting against the aristocracy by promise of more returns) to the postmoderns (openly revolting against the aristocracy by poisoning the informational commons and the basis for meritocracy:merit not only of self but of family) – this program has been intentionally composed in both the ancient (Constantine thru Justinian) and in the modern (marx thru Derrida) as a method of destroying the aristocracy.

    6) The destruction of the aristocracy in Greece, Persia, the Levant, North Africa, and India was complete, leaving only Europe and east Asia standing. The attempt by the marxists and postmoderns has succeeded in Germany, France, and Russia. It has succeeded in Canada and Australia. But because of our dependence on the martial class in America and Britain, it has had a greater difficulty here. So the problem is that (a) the prosecutions by the romans and the nazis was not severe and complete enough to save western civlization. What has been interesting is Putin’s prosecution of them, which is why (had he not flinched in Ukraine) he was and is setting the example for the west. Whereas china has no qualms at all about suppression. The fundamental problem most of the world faces, is that other than china we are not suppressing islam as we need to: totally. Which is why I want to suppress all abrahamism totally by suppressing all false speech in public.

    So as I have learned that discourse is fruitless I have ended my interest in voluntaryism in favor of natural law and markets in everything, which solve the problem of differences in interests by the competition between total positive market and total negative law.

    And as I have learned how the abrahamists have used the art of suggestion using overloading, conflation and fictionalism, against eugenic meritocracy, truth, and aristocracy, I have changed my focus on private property to the entire suite of capital (property in toto), and changed my bias toward unregulated speech, to demand for warranty of due diligence against false and immoral speech.

    This results in basically ‘Fascism of Markets including Truth and Morality in Actions, Display, and Speech – thereby making other than meritocracy impossible to survive.

    ON PAGANISM

    First, my view of ‘paganism’ would be this: that it is quite possible to study the history (or legend) of our existing heroes (Alexander, Aristotle, Caesar, Newton, Shakespeare, Washington, Jesus ) and then to build statues and temples to visit, and subconsciously converse with our mental images of them. And by doing so create investments and therefore value, in the values, virtues, and behaviors we associate with them. And that this is a purely scientific process that in fact functions as we desire it to for the same reason imagining conversations with other people you know very well do. And we get a psychic reward for having done such things. This does in fact train us to behave as we desire to. And through synchronicity of many people doing the same, bring about the influence on ourselves, families and society by our numbers, that we wish we could bring about if we had the power and influence of our heroes. So this is my view of paganism. It is a purely scientific ‘spiritual’ (psychological) method of self training and personal and social transformation. Metaphysically, we do, by such practices, and such synchronicity, produce social consequences the same way that markets indirectly produce social consequences. We do not agree or conspire directly but indirectly. That we think this is or requires some sort of magic is nonsense. It merely requires practice like any other discipline. (I can imagine myself talking to any number of historical figures. it’s not difficult. We all do it.)

    And, furthermore, I can understand prohibiting such temples, statues, symbols that were antagonistic to the polity. After all, churches, temples, statues, and symbols are method of claiming territory on behalf of a group’s evolutionary strategy. So preventing such claims is necessary, not only desirable.

    Second, as far as I know, “Religion” and “Education” constitute a false dichotomy. There is no difference between them. These are the properties of Religion(normative and personal skills) and Education (Commercial Skills). In other words, Religion for peoples who have not yet entered the market because they are subsistence farmers, and Education for people who have entered the market because they are no longer subsistence farmers.

    We need these forms of eduction:

    – Festival(feast) – Trust through celebration

    – Sport (competition) – Trust through teamwork

    – Ritual(sacredness) – Trust through self constraint

    – Virtues(ethics) – Universal and Normative Success

    – Mindfulness(self) – Psychological insulation from consequences of informational scarcity in a market/society)

    – Crafts(trade) – method of providing reciprocal value to the tribe so it is possible to survive in it.

    All of these rituals deprive us of selfishness and make it possible to succeed in all aspects of society.

    So in my perspective Religion is an anti market education system and taught cheaply to people who do not have market influences to shape their ethics, and Education as we understand it evolved to Transition people into market ethics so that they would succeed and understand market ethics (meritocracy), and how they differ from subsistence ethics (equality). And that this separation was rational given that it is very cheap to teach people by lying and allegory and equality, and it is more expensive to teach people by history and calculation, and meritocracy.

    The problem being that none of us are subsistence farmers, and all of us live in the market and have no other choice any longer to return to the fields. The territorial value of the individually farmable earth was maximized long ago.

    So as far as I understand it religion is just a cheap way to enslave people by teaching them sufficient information to survive as agrarians and pastoralists but not enough information, nor the right information, to survive in a market society where we cannot judge our actions by whether they are equal to that of others, but by whether they facilitate exchange with others to whom we are increasingly and eternally unequal.

    If you can understand this, and are intellectually honest, you will likely – with some great discomfort – come to accept that all attempts to preserve ‘religion’ in the sense of the mythical and supernatural is actually extremely destructive to mankind. And the reason the door is still open for the Abrahamic deceptions via abrahamic religions, Abrahamic pesudo-rationalisms (continental philosophy), and Abrahamic pseudosciences (Boazian Anthropology, Freudian psychology, Darwinian Denial, IQ Denial, Class Denial, Gender Denial, Race Denial, Merit Denial, Marxist Socialist economic denial, postmodern truth denial) is that we have failed to close the door on our tolerance for lying.

    My very simple reasoning:

    *I place a higher value on truth, reason, and the elimination of error, despite the higher cost, than I place on meaningfulness, intuition, and the identification of opportunities despite the lower cost.*

    In other words, I see cheap intuitionism as an immoral discount on expensive reason, and a means of justifying suggestion and indoctrination rather than rational choice and learning. So I see abrahamism as one of the worst and most immoral inventions in all of human history. And the cause of the dark age, and the cause of the islamic cancer that spread during it – including the loss of the great civilizations of the ancient world forever. And the Abrahamic-marxist-postmodernist cancer that still spreads today.

    And so I don’t accept the *fallacy of special pleading* that ‘meaningfulness’ or ‘accessibility’ are any more important than the hard work of truth. I mean, we teach expensive literacy, mathematics, sciences, economics, and history. And we in the past taught expensive vocabulary, grammar, logic, and rhetoric. Why is it that we cannot also teach expensive testimonialism: natural law and the logic of cooperation? Why can’t we teach history as a series of biographical narratives of the people who made the great insights and transformations in each of those fields? Even if you want to preserve the Buddha and Jesus why cannot they be stated in historical terms and studied for their innovations, rather than continuing their justification by abrahamic deception?

    You know, there isn’t any reason. Because any other reason requires lying and teaching lying.

    Now, it is true that Aesop’s fables, and fairy tales, and legends that have been with us for hundreds if not thousands of years are valuable to children. It is true that heroes of the greek myths are merely superheroes. This is a simple mythos of the hearth and home – not a mythos of the polity.

    And yes it uses anthropomorphism to simplify the communication to children the same way cartoons simplify the richness of human subtle expression so that children can grasp the more obvious communication. But why can we not directly transition into the teaching of virtues for children(grammar age). The transition into comparisons (logic age), and transition into self authoring ( rhetoric age )?

    You know, there isn’t any reason. Because any other reason requires lying and thereby teaching lying.

    The greek dark age after the bronze age collapse (1177bc), included the loss of writing and of memories of history. So the greeks had to invent via homer, a new history and a new group evolutionary strategy: resistance of the tyranny of the east. And they had to invent their gods.

    We are not in that position. by all evidence in all of history, western man has defeated his own limitations, taken a seat among his ancient gods, and there is more to learn from the memories of real men and real achievements than there is from characters we would have to invent in order to equal them. There is greater glory in the study of our ancestors than in the study of any of the gods – all of whom are far worse than any man every thought to be.

    In fact let me say this: the reason to invent gods is because your family, your clan, your people are shit failures in history. And any attempt to create such gods is merely to try to avoid the truth that your people are shit failures in history. It’s nothing but inventing a heritage you do not have. So it is better to find a realistic hero to learn from or a portfolio of real heroes and seek to change that history than remain the consequence of it.

    So I am anti-falsehood. And I am pro education. And I do not mean the current education system that is abrahamic in teaching deceit. But the time of ‘religion’ in the old sense is gone. The time of ‘Moral’ education is present. And there is no special pleading for the means of teaching morality. because the lightest test of morality is truth, the next fraud, the next theft, and the next harm, and the next murder, and the next evil: intention of harm for no purpose other than harm.

    I think almost all intellectuals – at least at the very top of the intellectual pyramid – go through a fairly similar evolutionary process of finding something that they feel is not right, falsifying everything they can in order to find a solution to what they feel is not right, then applying that solution to the intellectual frameworks we live by, then accumulating enough experience that our ‘mythologies’ *can* contain general rules that have survived the tests of the markets for such rules over long periods of history. And that by using this network of myth, we can ‘calculate’ understanding that we cannot calculate by any other means. For the simple reason that the informational density of the temporal narrative, when made mythical (not supernatural) and therefore intertemporal(immortal), allows us to calculate a broader set of very imprecise problems in the very high information density that we call ‘reality’. And that through many of us using these same rules, we function more as a ‘hive mind’ that is unconscious but still ‘calculating’ our success, one human decision serving as a sort of ‘neuron’ in the network of that brain we call ‘society’.

    But while I understand that the purpose and value of enduring myths, and the superhuman ability of the gods, demigods, heroes and saints of those myths, is necessary for the purpose of illustration, and that the immortality of those gods and demigods is necessary for the intergenerational transfer and persistence of those myths, the relationship with those gods and demigods can mirror our civilization’s strategy or undermine it.

    In the case of western civilization the fact that the gods merely represent a parental extended family with as many different talents as our own; that for every possible person on this earth there is some god that he can appeal to; that our relationship is contractual; that we can outwit or out compete them if we try; that we can earn our places among them by heroism, and that our purpose on this earth is to leave it changed for the better for having lived it, and to be remembered for it. And that we should strive to discipline and deed to develop the virtues that allow us to transcend the animal impulses. Well, that is about as close to a scientific religion as possible.

    And as far as I know, the purpose of science is to understand the laws of the universe – and among them men. And that having done so, we then understand the language of the gods. For it is their language that the universe is written in.

    Curt Doolittle

    The Propertarian Institute

    Kiev, Ukraine


    Source date (UTC): 2017-07-23 13:24:00 UTC

  • “Lets face it, underclass fathers dont stick around, and are not monogamous gene

    —“Lets face it, underclass fathers dont stick around, and are not monogamous generally, and not reliably employed so they require maintenance from the females of the species for lodging. The female is less violent and given access to state resources and benefits. The financial capacity of the community is dictated externally and distributed through underclass females so the selection criteria for mating is not determined by a mate’s economic value but by other criteria, education not one of them.”— anon


    Source date (UTC): 2017-07-23 10:24:00 UTC

  • Abrahamism was invented to resist the aristocracy (judaism), to undermine the ar

    Abrahamism was invented to resist the aristocracy (judaism), to undermine the aristocracy (christianity), and to attack the aristocracy (islam). It is the weaponization of lying by the underclasses using Falsehood, Fiction, Command, Reproduction, and Low investment education against the Aristocracy’s invention of Truth, Science, Law, Technology, and High investment education.

    (worth repeating)


    Source date (UTC): 2017-07-20 11:33:00 UTC

  • LABOR AND SEX. THE ETERNAL DIFFERENCE IN VALUE —“Western slavery goes back 10,

    LABOR AND SEX. THE ETERNAL DIFFERENCE IN VALUE

    —“Western slavery goes back 10,000 years to Mesopotamia, today’s Iraq, where a male slave was worth an orchard of date palms. Female slaves were called on for sexual services, gaining freedom only when their masters died.”—


    Source date (UTC): 2017-07-20 10:52:00 UTC

  • WORLD HISTORY: THE UNDERCLASS SUPERSTITIOUS SOUTH AGAINST THE UPPER CLASS SCIENT

    WORLD HISTORY: THE UNDERCLASS SUPERSTITIOUS SOUTH AGAINST THE UPPER CLASS SCIENTIFIC NORTH

    While I realize less developed cultures and states (those with less influence of commerce and law and greater influence norm and religion) cannot imagine that it is possible to create a high-roman or high-anglo-saxon order in the absence of falsehood the fact of the matter is that the only controlling factors are (a) demographic: elimination of the underclass, and (b) the scope of suppression of falsehood under the law. All else follows.

    If you have a judiciary that is incentivized to practice the Natural Law of Reciprocity and a military (police/sheriff/militia) that will do as it is commanded by the judiciary then the judiciary in fact serves as a cult of truth and the various religions serve as cults of lies. It is this competition between meritocratic and hierarchical law and non-meritocratic equalitarian deception (religion) that describes the past 2500 years or more.

    Abrahamism was invented to resist the aristocracy (judaism), to undermine the aristocracy (christianity), and to attack the aristocracy (islam). It is the weaponization of lying by the underclasses using Falsehood, Fiction, and Command, against the Aristocracy’s invention of Truth, Science, and Law.

    It is just the northern more domesticated upper classes against the southern less domesticated underclasses. Nothing more.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-07-20 08:35:00 UTC

  • Law for the Aristocracy (responsible) Philosophy for the Nobility (privileged) S

    Law for the Aristocracy (responsible)

    Philosophy for the Nobility (privileged)

    Stoicism for the Citizenry (independent)

    Duty for the Military (labor)

    Religion for the Slaves. (contained)


    Source date (UTC): 2017-07-18 07:49:00 UTC

  • Right Refers to Meritocracy Meritocracy Produces Aristocracy We are all Right no

    Right Refers to Meritocracy

    Meritocracy Produces Aristocracy

    We are all Right now.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-07-17 22:28:00 UTC