Theme: Class

  • WHAT DOES JAMES LINDSAY MEAN BY “THE WOKE RIGHT”? (CC: @ConceptualJames TL/DR; a

    WHAT DOES JAMES LINDSAY MEAN BY “THE WOKE RIGHT”? (CC: @ConceptualJames

    TL/DR;
    a) Lindsay is correct that beginning in the early twenty- teens, libertarians switched to a conservative position and the then broad conservative spectrum began using the left’s techniques in academy and media in social media, taking advantage of i) the fact that conservative ideas withstand scrutiny and progressive and left do not, ii) the capacity of right ridicule and sarcasm to reflect truths rather than wishful thinking, and iii) the success of these conservatives in social media (‘the left can’t meme’) in countering leftist narratives. – inspiring the left’s seizure of institutions to suppress such discourse (ie: using the left’s techniques against it). As such lindsay is using the odd accusation of Gnosticism instead of scientific evidence to create a false equivalency between left and right understandings of human nature and it’s social, economic, political, and geostrategic consequences. This is a rather obvious falsehood and a rather sophistic fallacy to argue from.

    b) Lindsay is correct in that the right factions like the left factions might overstep the need for correction against left capture of institutions, but wrong in that i) the right claims no special insight other than the evidence of human behavior, the results of the science of human behavior in defeating left false promises of its malleability, and the demonstrated failure of left programs foreign and domestic. ii) ergo the right may err in factional prescription but they do not err in universal proscription.

    c) Given that i) western success has consisted of five thousand years of incremental demand for and institutionalization of demand for individual responsibility for self, private and common, as a means of permitting the production of commons from which al benefit by reduction of opportunity transaction and risk costs; ii) all left framing, policies, and prescriptions are reducible to the (feminine) demand for evasion of responsibility for self, private, and common at the expense of those who demonstrate responsibility for self private and common, and iii) that all left policy seeks to use the state to steal from the responsible to subsidize the irresponsible; therefore all left framing, policy, narrative, and strategy consists of the attempt to use government to steal from others under the false pretense of victimhood when in fact they are engaging in crime. The crime is not an opinion. It is a fact. Ergo right claims of ‘oppression’ (criminality) are correct. iv) Meanwhile conservatives have always been and remain, open to trading support (not subsidy) in exchange for demonstration of responsibility for self regulation, one’s display word and deed, and it’s results for the private and common. This was as true on the steppe, as it was in greece and rome, as it was under the church, and as it remains today.

    I do not err, in the least, in this assessment.

    By and large Lindsay is an excellent book reviewer, expositor and promoter of the criticism of the left’s ideas. However, he has neither insights nor prescriptions, other than those that are universal regardless of stripe, and as we see with all such attempted public intellectuals – and his criticisms of the right are demonstrably somewhere between ignorant, self serving, dishonest, and false.

    LINDSAY’S POSITION
    James Lindsay, an activist on social media, has indeed used the term “Woke Right” to describe a subset of right-wing ideologies or individuals that he believes share certain characteristics with the “woke” ideologies typically associated with the left.

    From Lindsay’s perspective, the “Woke Right” is characterized by:

    1) An “awakened” critical-oriented theory of knowledge: This suggests that individuals or groups on the right have adopted a similar mindset of critical theory, where they perceive themselves as having special insight into societal structures and power dynamics, albeit from a right-wing perspective. They believe their ideas, which might be suppressed by mainstream liberal thought, are fundamentally true.

    2) Leading with a sense of victimhood: Similar to how some on the left might claim victimhood based on identity politics, Lindsay suggests that those on the “Woke Right” also frame themselves as victims—victims of liberal or progressive policies, or of a broader cultural shift against traditional values.

    Ends justify means: This implies a pragmatic approach where the moral or ethical concerns are secondary to achieving political or ideological goals, a trait Lindsay sees paralleling the tactics used by some on the left.

    Lindsay uses these points to argue that this segment of the right is essentially engaging in the same kind of activism and rhetoric as their left-wing counterparts, just with different ideological content. This includes the tendency to misdiagnose societal issues and propose radical solutions, often cloaked in a narrative of needing to “fix” society through a transformation that would hand them more power while undermining individual liberties.

    He has also indicated that the “Woke Right” might hijack the momentum of anti-woke movements to push their own radical agendas, suggesting they could be seen as opportunists within the broader conservative or right-wing sphere, using the backlash against mainstream wokeness to advance their own extreme views or to gain power.

    Lindsay’s criticism seems to stem from his belief that this group’s approach is not in line with traditional conservative values like individual liberty, limited government, and classical liberalism but rather mirrors the tactics and mindset of the woke left, albeit with opposite political aims.

    These interpretations come from Lindsay’s own statements on social media and in his written work, where he discusses the phenomenon.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-12-12 01:30:34 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1867012350588669952

  • Who created the revolution, and who was just the muscle, and of the muscle what

    Who created the revolution, and who was just the muscle, and of the muscle what percentage of the population were they?

    We might have just ended the left’s era. Maybe not. We could end it permanently with 2M men in DC for 90 days. Can you get conservatives to do that? John and I probably could have prior to 2000. Today I can’t. I dunno if anyone can. Because the internet boys are largely talkers. And don’t show. Ever.

    The people that show are quiet.

    Reply addressees: @ArionWise11 @TonyGause49


    Source date (UTC): 2024-12-09 19:35:53 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1866205144628842496

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1866203535945195997

  • I’ve been on this message forever. The seventies and eighties technology revolut

    I’ve been on this message forever. The seventies and eighties technology revoluton onward vastly increased the clerical class expansion, combined with post Reagan debt expansion accelerating consumption, but decreasing reproduction. Net consequence of AI + Reproduction + Loss of…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-12-07 06:01:00 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1865275298163671447

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1865268819427565711

  • They told you. Like I said. I ask. They told me. Again I assume this is a class

    They told you. Like I said. I ask. They told me.
    Again I assume this is a class issue, and you brought up women with post-grad degrees.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-12-01 05:10:46 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1863088327295119577

    Reply addressees: @mlsraces @pearlythingz

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1863085700784005180

  • I’ve never had sex with any woman who would put me at risk, and have never had a

    I’ve never had sex with any woman who would put me at risk, and have never had an STD. And yes, I ask, politely, at the right time. But I suspect this is largely a class difference like so many things are class differences.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-12-01 04:45:01 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1863081846827094383

    Reply addressees: @pearlythingz

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1863014949133398158

  • Same here. I received the dangerous individual flag for explaining why sexes, cl

    Same here. I received the dangerous individual flag for explaining why sexes, classes and groups behave differently in due to biological and cultural causes.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-11-30 18:12:29 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1862922666459672931

    Reply addressees: @LauraLoomer @DineshDSouza

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1862694213852569709

  • RT @yayavarkm: @pmarca In the recent Great Awokening, al-Gharbi notes with his c

    RT @yayavarkm: @pmarca In the recent Great Awokening, al-Gharbi notes with his characteristic eye, the new group of over-credentialed under…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-11-20 20:01:30 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1859326220598640785

  • Weak men are one thing, but they’re another when the state is sufficiently large

    Weak men are one thing, but they’re another when the state is sufficiently large and powerful, AND women are enfranchised and vote against men, and the financial sector, media, entertainment, universities and education benefit from conspiring against men in order to profit from women. So I mean, you know, second amendment matters but only when you reach an extreme condition. Otherwise systematically the enemy wins. So weak men might be true but they’re also facing overwhelming opposition unless they vote in large enough numbers or fight in large enough numbers to make a difference.

    Reply addressees: @BillHess78


    Source date (UTC): 2024-11-17 01:17:41 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1857956240036605954

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1857954211175997903

  • It’s quite difficult to cross a 3SD delta in IQ, a set of class differences, a k

    It’s quite difficult to cross a 3SD delta in IQ, a set of class differences, a knowledge difference, an achievement difference. But I still try to understand the common folk even if it’s difficult to imagine their infantilization.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-11-14 20:11:13 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1857154339737104600

    Reply addressees: @craigthomler @RichardDawkins

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1857141561777095123

  • No I’m a serial entrepreneur traveling in smaller but similar circles having dev

    No I’m a serial entrepreneur traveling in smaller but similar circles having developed and used the same strategies given the rather scumbag dominance of east coast finanace, unions, bureaucrats, governments, and that’s before we start with overseas equivalents and their bribes etc. Now, I’m a hypermoral person that’s put multiple people away via the justice department, and assisted my country in intelligence matters. But that doesn’t mean I don’t understand what trump does, what all of intel does, and how and why he does it. What I admire is that he is so effective at the moral message of the masses on one hand and negotiating with hostiles inside and outside our government on the other. It takes extraordinary fortitude cunning and strategy to do it and he does it consistently.

    Reply addressees: @rghers @RichardDawkins


    Source date (UTC): 2024-11-13 04:42:36 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1856558259320291328

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1856555022131060778