Curt Doolittle

Theme: Civilization

  • Q: CURT: “DO RELIGIONS NEED LIES? AND WHY DO WE NEED RELIGIONS?” The reason you

    Q: CURT: “DO RELIGIONS NEED LIES? AND WHY DO WE NEED RELIGIONS?”
    The reason you need lies is the instinctual demand for mindfulness provided by hunter-gatherer family clan tribe, socialization, regularity, and simplicity. Yet we the cost of anonymity and irrelevancy and loss of that dependency produces mindlessness we call alienation and anxiety and inability to cope with the reality of a universe, which is a vast irradiated wasteland, solar system, a sun, a geology, a climate, a fauna and the other humans that are all but hostile to our very existence, and try to eradicate us with disturbing regularity.
    The question man must solve, is how to provide that mindfulness by means that are not false, and not harmful to our continuous adaptation to these environments, and the environments we innovate with our science, technology, and knowledge – despite status (after food and shelter) being our primary instinct that influences all our behaviors.
    Stoicism, Confucianism, Shintoism, and Buddhism were the least false religions. Hinduism is an eccentric outlier that while brilliant and innovative eventually proved an impediment to the people. And The Abrahamic spectrum are the most false and most harmful religions that were a detriment to the people and all those they interacted with. At least until the marxist spectrum which are the most harmful cults since the mesoamerican cults of institutional murder.
    But there is something to be learned from these means of producing mindfulness. Perhaps the Chinese tea and Japanese craftsman rituals. Perhaps the stoic rituals – which are but what today we call cognitive behavioral therapy. The explicit pursuit of mindfulness through non-aggression in Buddhism – despite it’s abandonment of reality.
    We can, at least I can, at present describe requirements for a scientific non false religion for the political, social, and personal problems of alienation and neuroticism. At that point, like Hinduism, stoicism, or Confucianism, is such a thing a religion? Or is it an intergenerational set of narratives and values that provide mindfulness by teaching us a way of life that benefits all of us? I think the latter.
    So, to say we need religion is a half-truth. Humans need mindfulness. There are a spectrum of solutions to providing humans with mindfulness. We need only discover those that are not false, and do not produce direct harms, or indirect harms through negative externalities.
    Train the body (fitness), the mind (mindfulness), the habits (hygiene, dress, manners, ethics, morals, norms, natural law), the brain (the basics of the disciplines (means of ‘calculating’) from reason to physical, behavioral, evolutionary sciences), the individual (skills that are useful for contributing to self sufficiency). We need to train the whole person. Not take it for granted that idiosyncratic experience will provide the fitness in body, mind, habits, brain, and sills needed for self determination by self determined means in a condition of mindfulness and appreciation for not only this life, but our investment in one another’s fulfillment.

    Source date (UTC): 2023-03-20 15:40:26 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1637841537110294535

  • My worldview is that despite the problems of differences in demographic distribu

    My worldview is that despite the problems of differences in demographic distributions it is possible to decrease divergence from the laws of nature (physical, behavioral, evolutionary and the logical to describe them) and in doing so prevent elites from lying to the public in public about matters public, thus over decades and centuries driving us all to smithian cooperation and driving out imperialism that deprives people of self determination by self determined means. In other words, I do the science of cooperation and all ‘myths, legends, false promises, frauds, and lies’ must be purged from mankind in order to make us all at least relatively equally prosperous and fulfilled.

    This means slaying sacred cows as well as cherished falsehoods.

    So my work is reducible to the extension of fraud in commerce to politics.

    The ‘science’ required to do that was just more than any previous generation of thinkers could accomplish. For the simple reason that the knowledge didn’t exist.

    That’s really my goal.
    “No More Lies”

    Reply addressees: @enigma3078 @thenewMJG @whatifalthist

    Source date (UTC): 2023-03-20 15:17:41 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1637835810396332035

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1637808821727813635

  • My worldview is that despite the problems of differences in demographic distribu

    My worldview is that despite the problems of differences in demographic distributions it is possible to decrease divergence from the laws of nature (physical, behavioral, evolutionary and the logical to describe them) and in doing so prevent elites from lying to the public in public about matters public, thus over decades and centuries driving us all to smithian cooperation and driving out imperialism that deprives people of self determination by self determined means. In other words, I do the science of cooperation and all ‘myths, legends, false promises, frauds, and lies’ must be purged from mankind in order to make us all at least relatively equally prosperous and fulfilled.

    This means slaying sacred cows as well as cherished falsehoods.

    So my work is reducible to the extension of fraud in commerce to politics.

    The ‘science’ required to do that was just more than any previous generation of thinkers could accomplish. For the simple reason that the knowledge didn’t exist.

    That’s really my goal.
    “No More Lies”

    Source date (UTC): 2023-03-20 15:17:41 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1637835810580885504

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1637808821727813635

  • 1) India is fascinating because while the west IE’s chose ‘society as army, with

    1) India is fascinating because while the west IE’s chose ‘society as army, with class duties etc’ the East IE’s (hindus) took the concept to an extreme, without rotating ‘promotion’ of the classes. In retrospect, it’s obvious because the inequality was so great on one hand, and the ability to govern so vast a population and continent was impossible given the European method. I mean, the steppe people murdered before colonizing only the women.

    2) I can’t suggest reading materials on Indian history, but if you ask @WhatifAltHist I’m sure he can narrow it down to a top three list for you, and his recommendations would be better than mine.

    3) If you ask me a specific question RE Holland’s work I can probably answer it.
    As a general rule, I’d argue he’s part of the tradition that’s now skeptical of all Abrahamic content from the transitional period at the end of the ancient world brought about by the plagues, wars, and Abrahamic destruction of the civilizations of the ancient world. His questioning of Muhammed I agree with just like I agree with the questioning of Jesus. MENA is a fictionalism based civ, particularly in Mythicism, and not philosophical, historical, or empirical. Making it up is to be taken for granted.
    If you mean his rather obvious observation that the west is a Christian society that’s true. If you ask me it’s a trifunctional one, with the three traditions roughly reflecting personality and class values.
    Like Holland I”d classify myself as an Anglican and a Burkeian, but there is no yet ‘clear’ distinction between Anglo thought in general as radically more empirical than al other civilizations and nations and traditions combined. We are aware of the anglo vs continental (german) tradition, but we do not (as I do) arrange all civilizational differences in intellectual bias as deviation from the laws of nature and by what means, and to preserve what ‘lie’ or ‘comfort’.
    Truth is that metaphysical value judgments are WANT to survive innovations in the frame we use to describe the world. And other than anglos not too many if any in the world have done it. The question is only whether other civs CAN do it. And I think it’s because it’s a class disposition in the anglo elites, that was an odd side effect of the status competition in England during the high to late middle ages, and especially into modernity.
    You could say I’m struggling to capture as science the uniquely scientific approach to the government of man created by the anglo aristocratic invention of the modern rule of law state, and their ‘correct’ assumption that they were the most virtuous rulers in history, even if only doing the best they could. And the USA’s founders were attempting more so to formally codify that as a majority cultural rather than aristocratic subcultural ideal.

    Cheers

    Reply addressees: @VeritateIn @MrWarrenBuffet @whatifalthist @elonmusk

    Source date (UTC): 2023-03-20 14:21:25 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1637821651684302851

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  • 1) India is fascinating because while the west IE’s chose ‘society as army, with

    1) India is fascinating because while the west IE’s chose ‘society as army, with class duties etc’ the East IE’s (hindus) took the concept to an extreme, without rotating ‘promotion’ of the classes. In retrospect, it’s obvious because the inequality was so great on one hand, and the ability to govern so vast a population and continent was impossible given the European method. I mean, the steppe people murdered before colonizing only the women.

    2) I can’t suggest reading materials on Indian history, but if you ask @WhatifAltHist I’m sure he can narrow it down to a top three list for you, and his recommendations would be better than mine.

    3) If you ask me a specific question RE Holland’s work I can probably answer it.
    As a general rule, I’d argue he’s part of the tradition that’s now skeptical of all Abrahamic content from the transitional period at the end of the ancient world brought about by the plagues, wars, and Abrahamic destruction of the civilizations of the ancient world. His questioning of Muhammed I agree with just like I agree with the questioning of Jesus. MENA is a fictionalism based civ, particularly in Mythicism, and not philosophical, historical, or empirical. Making it up is to be taken for granted.
    If you mean his rather obvious observation that the west is a Christian society that’s true. If you ask me it’s a trifunctional one, with the three traditions roughly reflecting personality and class values.
    Like Holland I”d classify myself as an Anglican and a Burkeian, but there is no yet ‘clear’ distinction between Anglo thought in general as radically more empirical than al other civilizations and nations and traditions combined. We are aware of the anglo vs continental (german) tradition, but we do not (as I do) arrange all civilizational differences in intellectual bias as deviation from the laws of nature and by what means, and to preserve what ‘lie’ or ‘comfort’.
    Truth is that metaphysical value judgments are WANT to survive innovations in the frame we use to describe the world. And other than anglos not too many if any in the world have done it. The question is only whether other civs CAN do it. And I think it’s because it’s a class disposition in the anglo elites, that was an odd side effect of the status competition in England during the high to late middle ages, and especially into modernity.
    You could say I’m struggling to capture as science the uniquely scientific approach to the government of man created by the anglo aristocratic invention of the modern rule of law state, and their ‘correct’ assumption that they were the most virtuous rulers in history, even if only doing the best they could. And the USA’s founders were attempting more so to formally codify that as a majority cultural rather than aristocratic subcultural ideal.

    Cheers

    Source date (UTC): 2023-03-20 14:21:25 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1637821651919290370

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1637811318626320387

  • It’s just because you don’t have the knowledge base. So it’s rational you’d take

    It’s just because you don’t have the knowledge base. So it’s rational you’d take that position.

    1) Agrarian revolution -> Steppe Revolution -> Bronze Age collapse -> Indo-european Revolution -> Semitic counter-revolution.

    2) Italian-anglo restoration of europeanism > anglo invention of the modern rule of law state, industry, trade, federations (replacing agrarian empires territory) > french counter-revolution > German counter-revolution > Jewish counter-revolution(mendolsohn, then the Marxist sequence) > Islamist counter-revolution > Western Trade/Federalism Exhaustion > Imperial Reassertion (Iran, China, Russia and those countries that failed the transformation)

    3) All human differences originate in sex differences, from empathizing(prey)-systematizing(predator), to the four personality clusters, to the moral bias clusters, and especially the IQ vs Neoteny distribution, and you see a rather obvious means of explaining all human behavior. We are all some admixture of sex differences, and the population shows a pretty normal distribution of abut 1/3, 1/3, and 1/3 sex bias in perception, cognition, valuation, want, advocacy, and negotiation. What’s difficult for most of us, is that while we acknowledge the spectrum of means of ‘calculating’ from math to recipes, to rigorous arguments, we are less willing to ‘science’ our methods of lying. And how the sex differences in anti-natural law behavior, anti-social behavior, are facilitated by sex differences in methods of lying.

    4) All civilizational differences originate in agrarian founding institutions and their path-dependent sequence of development. There are only three means of human coercion (Religion/Verbal: seduction/ostracization, State/Force: Order/Defense, and Trade/Boycott: law/commerce. With Religion(strong) > State(weak) > Law(fail) the worst (MENA) and Law(strong) > State (weak) > Religion(fail) the best (Europe), and State(strong) > Law (weak) > Religion (fail) the compromise (China). Combine the institutional sequence, with the geography, means of production, your homogeneity or heterogeneity, number of competitors, the technological difference between you and the competitors, the relationship between your aristocracy (military) and peasantry(producers), and you get all human civilizations as relatively obvious survivors of what’s possible in geographic, racial, and ethnic circumstances.

    Now I’ve done all that work and more. So where you see moral conflict I see a bunch of bots – barely conscious children really – running around with flashcards of lies taped to their heads – trying to get attention so that they obtain some sort of status so that they can find allies, to maybe, possibly, feel less alienated in modernity, and somehow change their condition.

    So I see a very childish world. Why? Because while what I do (what our institute staff do) is basically a mathematics – a formal logic. Now it’s ordinal and operational math (like computation and actions) and not cardinal math (like statistics and language) but it’s till math. And it’s rational for all you normals out there with your emotions alienation and flashcards on your foreheads to think we’re like you.

    We aren’t. It’s just math to us.
    We don’t often like what we find either.
    And we know how Darwin and Galileo were treated.
    And we don’t expect any differently.
    Because the entire postwar pseudoscientific war against western civilization’s ‘science’, is a war against the Darwinian explanation of all existence. Not just biology – but everything. Including everything we intuit, feel, think, say and do.
    So no I don’t expect people to accept or like that the postwar intersection of Jewish thought, women in the workforce and politics, the television-cable-internet-social media revolution, hyperconsumption, debt capacity, and downregulation of education is just an expression of the lag institutional suppression of female antisocial behavior as it propagates through the civilization.

    But it’s true. 🙁

    Reply addressees: @enigma3078 @thenewMJG @whatifalthist

    Source date (UTC): 2023-03-20 13:54:24 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1637814852197445640

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1637808821727813635

  • It’s just because you don’t have the knowledge base. So it’s rational you’d take

    It’s just because you don’t have the knowledge base. So it’s rational you’d take that position.

    1) Agrarian revolution -> Steppe Revolution -> Bronze Age collapse -> Indo-european Revolution -> Semitic counter-revolution.

    2) Italian-anglo restoration of europeanism > anglo invention of the modern rule of law state, industry, trade, federations (replacing agrarian empires territory) > french counter-revolution > German counter-revolution > Jewish counter-revolution(mendolsohn, then the Marxist sequence) > Islamist counter-revolution > Western Trade/Federalism Exhaustion > Imperial Reassertion (Iran, China, Russia and those countries that failed the transformation)

    3) All human differences originate in sex differences, from empathizing(prey)-systematizing(predator), to the four personality clusters, to the moral bias clusters, and especially the IQ vs Neoteny distribution, and you see a rather obvious means of explaining all human behavior. We are all some admixture of sex differences, and the population shows a pretty normal distribution of abut 1/3, 1/3, and 1/3 sex bias in perception, cognition, valuation, want, advocacy, and negotiation. What’s difficult for most of us, is that while we acknowledge the spectrum of means of ‘calculating’ from math to recipes, to rigorous arguments, we are less willing to ‘science’ our methods of lying. And how the sex differences in anti-natural law behavior, anti-social behavior, are facilitated by sex differences in methods of lying.

    4) All civilizational differences originate in agrarian founding institutions and their path-dependent sequence of development. There are only three means of human coercion (Religion/Verbal: seduction/ostracization, State/Force: Order/Defense, and Trade/Boycott: law/commerce. With Religion(strong) > State(weak) > Law(fail) the worst (MENA) and Law(strong) > State (weak) > Religion(fail) the best (Europe), and State(strong) > Law (weak) > Religion (fail) the compromise (China). Combine the institutional sequence, with the geography, means of production, your homogeneity or heterogeneity, number of competitors, the technological difference between you and the competitors, the relationship between your aristocracy (military) and peasantry(producers), and you get all human civilizations as relatively obvious survivors of what’s possible in geographic, racial, and ethnic circumstances.

    Now I’ve done all that work and more. So where you see moral conflict I see a bunch of bots – barely conscious children really – running around with flashcards of lies taped to their heads – trying to get attention so that they obtain some sort of status so that they can find allies, to maybe, possibly, feel less alienated in modernity, and somehow change their condition.

    So I see a very childish world. Why? Because while what I do (what our institute staff do) is basically a mathematics – a formal logic. Now it’s ordinal and operational math (like computation and actions) and not cardinal math (like statistics and language) but it’s till math. And it’s rational for all you normals out there with your emotions alienation and flashcards on your foreheads to think we’re like you.

    We aren’t. It’s just math to us.
    We don’t often like what we find either.
    And we know how Darwin and Galileo were treated.
    And we don’t expect any differently.
    Because the entire postwar pseudoscientific war against western civilization’s ‘science’, is a war against the Darwinian explanation of all existence. Not just biology – but everything. Including everything we intuit, feel, think, say and do.
    So no I don’t expect people to accept or like that the postwar intersection of Jewish thought, women in the workforce and politics, the television-cable-internet-social media revolution, hyperconsumption, debt capacity, and downregulation of education is just an expression of the lag institutional suppression of female antisocial behavior as it propagates through the civilization.

    But it’s true. 🙁

    Source date (UTC): 2023-03-20 13:54:24 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1637814852486852610

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1637808821727813635

  • (We have very early documentation in mesopotamia of the illegality of homosexual

    (We have very early documentation in mesopotamia of the illegality of homosexuality largely because men would seduce boys who would then be undesirable husbands, and then a burden on the family and society, and end up in prostitution. In other words, the prohibition on homosexuality evolved identically to the prohibition on prostitution. WIth greater suppression because men supplied most animal labor in production so loss of male sons to farmers and herders was irreparable given the high agrarian cost of raising children that survived.)

    Reply addressees: @enigma3078 @whatifalthist

    Source date (UTC): 2023-03-20 13:23:22 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1637807043397427200

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  • (We have very early documentation in mesopotamia of the illegality of homosexual

    (We have very early documentation in mesopotamia of the illegality of homosexuality largely because men would seduce boys who would then be undesirable husbands, and then a burden on the family and society, and end up in prostitution. In other words, the prohibition on homosexuality evolved identically to the prohibition on prostitution. WIth greater suppression because men supplied most animal labor in production so loss of male sons to farmers and herders was irreparable given the high agrarian cost of raising children that survived.)

    Source date (UTC): 2023-03-20 13:23:22 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1637807043519160321

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  • CORRECT ANSWER 1) Rigidity of all roles is an innovation necessary under the sca

    CORRECT ANSWER
    1) Rigidity of all roles is an innovation necessary under the scale produced by agrarianism. Property, Sex Roles, Marriage, Monogamy, Classes, Specialists, all were caused by the conversation of man under agrarianism from a parasite on the ecologies into a producer of economies. In the case of sex roles, given the utility of intergenerational labor to the family, the general disgust at sexual deviancy increased for practical reasons: dead weight first, and second, preying on children, and third, baiting into hazard. Today we are seeing the reemergence of baiting into hazard (“Grooming”), because of the end of intergenerational economic dependence within families, and an organized effort of dysfunctional to increase legitimacy by increasing their numbers. In other words, the present restoration of self-satisfaction over ‘duty to family clan and commons’ is a deterministic ‘problem’, and how we solve it over time relatively obvious: it’ll eventually be suppressed again.

    Reply addressees: @whatifalthist

    Source date (UTC): 2023-03-20 12:37:31 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1637795504045080576

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