My answer to How can we resolve the conflict of Western ideology (the compulsion to success) and Eastern ideology (… https://www.quora.com/How-can-we-resolve-the-conflict-of-Western-ideology-the-compulsion-to-success-and-Eastern-ideology-playing-it-safe/answer/Curt-Doolittle?share=8415fdb0
Source date (UTC): 2017-12-29 01:57:23 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/946560751178743808
WE LOOK AT SUCH PEOPLE AS UNGRATEFUL CHILDREN.
—-”What do Americans think of the fact that their country is seen almost everywhere on Earth as the most arrogant and bellicose country responsible of the death of millions of innocent people?”—-
What do Americans think? You mean uneducated or educated, or educated and knowledgeable, or educated, and knowledgeable, and experience americans?
For the educated, and knowledgeable and experience American, we feel quite rightly that the world is ungrateful for westerners and americans dragging them kicking and screaming out of ignorance, superstition, poverty, hard labor, child death, early death, disease, tyranny. Yes, the european empires tried to drag the world out of a 2000 year dark age and did so profitably. And yes during the world wars, they collapsed and failed to finish the job. And yes, america post-war forced those countries to modernize thesleves rather than directly ruling them as did the colonizers. And yes, communism, socialism, and islamic fundamentalism are all means by which the world resisted being dragged out of ignorance, superstition, poverty, hard labor, child death, early death, disease, and tyranny.
And yes, we are trying to stop the spread of regressive islam, the same way stopped the spread of regressive socialism, and the same way we stopped the spread of regressive communism. Unfortunately, we are internally under attack by the newest pseudoscientific pseudo rational religion called ‘postmodernism’. And we are no longer in the economic position to fight internal cults (postmodernism that owns our universities and media and government), nor are we in the position to hold states and people accountable for their rule. Nor arwe we in the position to rule states directly. Because the cost is just too high compared to a century ago.
The USA has had a simple policy since the end of the world war that is unstated:
1 – This kind of war must never happen again – mankind will end.
2 – We can prevent such a war from happening by bringing all people into an interdependent economic world order. Economic cooperation changes ‘conflicts’ from physical to economic, cultural, and informational. It is still conflict, but it is less bad than war.
3 – People will pursue the interdependent economic world order for the simple reason that they would prefer the comforts of consumer capitalism than to be envious of those that have them.
4 – We can achieve this by a) preventing expansion of state power, b) directing states to producing human rights (all of which are but property rights), c) advancing democracy so that states will work at human rights (property rights) and then by consequences, join the world economic order out of self interest. d) advancing the self determination of peoples, but retaining borders.
The problem with this set of goals is that:
a) most peoples are not demographically advanced enough to adopt consumer capitalism, rule of law, and democracy. Familialism and corruption are too common in the rest of the world, and only northern europeans have succeeded in eliminating it. (Read Fukuyama for some of the reasons why)
b) americans have said ‘self determination’ and ‘democracy’ (The Carrot) but have not spoken the consequence (The Stick). Which is ‘if you choose poorly we will punish your government, and by consequence punish you.)
c) Had we completed the colonial ( modernization) project in russia, china, and finally in the middle east, rather than abandoning those peoples, we may have made this process less full of conflict, as did the british in their colonies. but at present we are still struggling with russian, chinese, iranian, pakistani aggression, and unfortunately, north Korea’s threat.
We have paid a high price in blood and treasure where we could just have easily ruled the world exploitatively and by force – without much effort at all. What other people would do such a thing?
How many people has Islam killed? How many have Communists Killed? How many have westerners dragged out of ignorance, superstition, poverty and disease?
Our entire project is nothing more than trying to prevent another world war in the process of dragging people out of the abrahamic (jewish, christian, muslim->Marxist-Socialist, Postmodernist, fundamentalist) dark age.
Curt Doolittle
The Propertarian Institute
https://www.quora.com/What-do-Americans-think-of-the-fact-that-their-country-is-seen-almost-everywhere-on-Earth-as-the-most-arrogant-and-bellicose-country-responsible-of-the-death-of-millions-of-innocent-people
There is no master race. There are races that have evolved in different geographies that produced different demands. Each geography produced variations of the human animal suitable to those conditions.
All people should love their own and take care of their own – self doubt is useless. The greatest inhibitor of black americans is that their culture was just getting started in the south, and the leftists brought them to cities and destroyed that culture. (They were imitating the Soviets. It didn’t work for the soviets, and russians are by and large the same race.)
There are very minor but very meaningful differences (largely endocrinological) between the races, and those of the african communities in america are earlier and deeper rates of maturity (necessary for evolution in africa), higher extroversion (necessary for warm climate hunter gatherers and subsistence farmers), and lower verbal ‘fascination’ (the opposite of the Ashkenazi for example).
Northern europeans evolved in a very different environment, and have very different intuitions and norms. ALL GROUPS are better off in homogenous cultures where they reciprocally provide what the group needs. The competition between races is not helpful except among the most highly talented and skilled global elite whose means of survival is purely economic and not at all social. Most of us are, and will always be, social creatures dependent upon one another for not only a division of labor, but a division of understanding and knowledge. Universalism is a fantasy of foolish semi-elites.
People from the African continent have a number of claims to be proud of:
1- Physical Superiority (Especially Durability). (True)
2- Higher in-group sociability (True)
3- Because of these traits, they are the only people that could survive in Africa, which by all measures is a very hostile environment for human beings.
4- And because of oceans and deserts, africans were largely cut off from the technological innovations on the northern hemisphere across the eurasian-asian continents
Love your own. Respect your people for what they have done. Understand that each of us had to evolve in our geography. And give africans time to catch up in institutional and normative technology. It’s taking time. But it’s happening. Not fast enough maybe. But pretty fast by historical standards.
The fundamental problem for all peoples is the size of the underclass. People in colder climates could not survive winters if they ‘lacked industry and discipline’. People in the far east and the west have killed off the underclasses for thousands of years, either by starvation, disease, war, or ‘hanging’ in large numbers.
Very few peoples have been able to shrink the size of the underclass: largely westerners and east asians. It should not be a surprise that westerners and east asians have the highest standards of living. Because each person at the bottom , no matter how well intentioned, is six times as costly as each person at the top is productive.
So the most important thing countries can do is to decrease the rates of reproduction of the underclasses. And now that most of the world has adopted western technologies, it will be increasingly hard for people with large underclasses to ‘carry them’ as the demand for unskilled labor declines. (This is africa’s real problem. the talented classes cannot organize such large numbers of underclasses using capitalism (voluntary organization of production). And even so, it is not universal. (Look at Nigeria, Ghana, and Ethiopia.)
Africans have plenty to be proud of: they conquered the largest and most difficult continent, despite its terrible hostility to human life, and its near isolation from trade, technology, and information routes – and the use of africa as a source of STRONG DURABLE slave labor by neighboring peoples during the entirety of the agrarian age so dependent upon human labor.
It pains me every time I have to encourage african self respect, when there are so many other groups on this earth who have so much self respect – yet are so undeserving of it.
(The greatest danger to africa is Islam, which glorifies the unproductive underclass. It is very seductive, and it has destroyed at least five major civilizations by the same means: expanding the underclasses.)
https://www.quora.com/Should-we-try-to-encourage-the-belief-that-black-Africans-are-the-master-race-They-really-dont-have-a-lot-going-for-them-and-life-in-Africa-and-among-black-Americans-is-so-hard-I-think-it-would-be-uplifting-for-them
Strange question. Technically they are west asians, west asians with some indo european genes, west asians with some arabic, and arabic and west asian with some african.
It’s at the crossroads of the large races and subraces. There has been rampant inbreeding and slave trading and inbreeding with slaves.
Asia is a very large continent. We usually separate the main subraces into groups, and in particular, separate east asians (chinese, han chinese in particular, korean, and japanese, from indian-asians, the turkic, and the (large number) of steppe peoples, from the southeast asians (brown, wide nose, almond eyes),
Genetic history is fascinating.
https://www.quora.com/Do-Middle-East-countries-consider-themselves-Asian
Strange question. Technically they are west asians, west asians with some indo european genes, west asians with some arabic, and arabic and west asian with some african.
It’s at the crossroads of the large races and subraces. There has been rampant inbreeding and slave trading and inbreeding with slaves.
Asia is a very large continent. We usually separate the main subraces into groups, and in particular, separate east asians (chinese, han chinese in particular, korean, and japanese, from indian-asians, the turkic, and the (large number) of steppe peoples, from the southeast asians (brown, wide nose, almond eyes),
Genetic history is fascinating.
https://www.quora.com/Do-Middle-East-countries-consider-themselves-Asian
https://www.quora.com/What-are-your-thoughts-on-politics-and-religion/answer/Curt-Doolittle?share=424fe06b&srid=u4QvTHE COMPLETE ANSWER
—“What are your thoughts on Politics and Religion”—
I have come to understand that the abrahamic religions are the cause of the dark age, the cause of more deaths than the plagues, and the continuing cause of human suffering, and the greatest threat to human transcendence (evolution).
We all require **mindfulness** outside of hunter gatherer lifestyles where we know our ‘place’ with everyone around us. We need Personal mindfulness. Interpersonal Mindfulness. And socio-political mindfulness. We evolved as pack animals. A strange mixture of chimp and wolf. We all long for the security of some aspect of the elation, power, comfort, and security of pack.
Yet the more advanced our civilizations the more isolated we are as individuals. This was the problem religions solved, and religions solved them by evolving all at about the same time, in response to the needs of living in greater numbers with less certainty in our relations.
We fail to grasp that religions are vast lies that provide mindfulness. We can achieve mindfulness through intentional discipline, a variety of rituals, participations in feasts, dances, parades, sports, celebrations, and especially in oration, ‘theater’, and Myth.
But we can obtain that mindfulness by truthful, half truthful, or entirely untruthful means. And there are profound consequences for any people given the means of mindfulness they choose.
As far as I can tell, government is necessary for the production of increasingly complex commons. And mindfulness is necessary for cooperation in those increasingly complex commons.
But that said, both politics under democracy and religion regardless of political structure are constituted of very little other than utter falsehoods, because both seek power over us and profits from us, by lying.
If we lived under rule of natural (common) law (of tort), where we extended warranty of due diligence from goods, and services, to political speech, and houses of government were but a market for cooperation between the classes (as in the old english monarchic model) except that we used direct democracy or direct economic democracy, without representatives, and each voted on each issue individually, it is very hard to imagine we would have much use for politics.
If we were all taught mindfulness like we are taught table manners, reading-writing, arithmetic – even if we had to teach it by half a dozen different means in order to satisfy the needs of peoples with different brain structures, then we would have little need for religion.
The problem is…. we all love our little lies.
And in my world, it is the lies that cause all the world’s problems, and justify all the world’s crimes, and encourage all the world’s evil.Updated Dec 28, 2017, 9:13 PM
Source date (UTC): 2017-12-28 21:13:00 UTC