Theme: Civilization

  • The the Debts of Ignoble Savages

    October 27th, 2018 8:16 AM THE MYTH OF THE NOBLE SAVAGES VS THE THE DEBTS OF IGNOBLE SAVAGES (unpleasant)(insensitivity warning)

    —“Violence is a precious resource. We civilised the whole world using violence. That’s the history of civilisation: the incremental suppression of parasitism through the organised application of violence.”–Curt Doolittle —“Thoughts?”– Joel Harvey —“If by “parasitism” you mean “the extermination of indigenous people who had a reciprocal relationship with the world and then the forced conversion of there children, theft of there resources and obliteration of there memories so the could end up fat useless consumers” then yeah brother, We are lovely”— Damien Woodgate

    Yes, we dragged them out of ignorance, superstition, hard labor, poverty, starvation, disease, suffering, child mortality, early death, and endemic violence – and we did it for profit, and we did it against their will; and they fought us kicking and screaming, all the way; and they are unthankful for it. And other than profiting from it, and having a great european civil war over the profitability of it, and leaving the job unfinished, so rather than continue our work, that we had to fight the communists and now the islamists in their attempts at reversal of our work, while fighting the jews and puritans within our societies undermining our work, it seems to have done us no good – because they make up fantasy stories of the noble savage living peaceful lives in harmony with nature, instead of half domesticated animals at malthusian limits relentlessly preying upon one another in endemic competition, corruption, violence, and warfare. So yes, we failed to complete our program of profiting from the domestication of barely humane humans, and enforcing farming, industry, technology, science, medicine, plenty, literacy, relative peace, charity to women, and long lives upon them, and they are resentful, because they cannot bear the thought of thanking us when we succeeded, or thanking us for exterminating those who were the most primitive, the most work, and who were dedicated out failure. We are not equals as individuals as classes, as groups, polities, nations, civilizations, or “races” if that means anything more than ‘civilizations’. We dragged all of mankind out of barbarism. No man is a hero to his debtors. That said, none of us should expect respect or appreciation from our debtors. Our project was incomplete. However, in retrospect, we could have and perhaps should have treated white man’s burden as Pragmatic Heathen rather than Utopian Christian and instead of converting (educating) them, and improving their condition, simply engaged in organized replacement of them. Because history shows we always ‘lose’ when we are tolerant, ruling, or colonizing, and we have always ‘won’ and advanced ourselves and mankind rapidly whenever we conduct replacement. And that is the lesson that our ungrateful ‘Debtors’ have taught us (yet again). The evidence is rather glaringly obvious: Replacement of less domesticated (evolved) peoples is the dominant force in developmental history, and produces the optimum results for not only us, but for all mankind. Hence the necessity of separatism. That is the lesson of history.

  • The the Debts of Ignoble Savages

    October 27th, 2018 8:16 AM THE MYTH OF THE NOBLE SAVAGES VS THE THE DEBTS OF IGNOBLE SAVAGES (unpleasant)(insensitivity warning)

    —“Violence is a precious resource. We civilised the whole world using violence. That’s the history of civilisation: the incremental suppression of parasitism through the organised application of violence.”–Curt Doolittle —“Thoughts?”– Joel Harvey —“If by “parasitism” you mean “the extermination of indigenous people who had a reciprocal relationship with the world and then the forced conversion of there children, theft of there resources and obliteration of there memories so the could end up fat useless consumers” then yeah brother, We are lovely”— Damien Woodgate

    Yes, we dragged them out of ignorance, superstition, hard labor, poverty, starvation, disease, suffering, child mortality, early death, and endemic violence – and we did it for profit, and we did it against their will; and they fought us kicking and screaming, all the way; and they are unthankful for it. And other than profiting from it, and having a great european civil war over the profitability of it, and leaving the job unfinished, so rather than continue our work, that we had to fight the communists and now the islamists in their attempts at reversal of our work, while fighting the jews and puritans within our societies undermining our work, it seems to have done us no good – because they make up fantasy stories of the noble savage living peaceful lives in harmony with nature, instead of half domesticated animals at malthusian limits relentlessly preying upon one another in endemic competition, corruption, violence, and warfare. So yes, we failed to complete our program of profiting from the domestication of barely humane humans, and enforcing farming, industry, technology, science, medicine, plenty, literacy, relative peace, charity to women, and long lives upon them, and they are resentful, because they cannot bear the thought of thanking us when we succeeded, or thanking us for exterminating those who were the most primitive, the most work, and who were dedicated out failure. We are not equals as individuals as classes, as groups, polities, nations, civilizations, or “races” if that means anything more than ‘civilizations’. We dragged all of mankind out of barbarism. No man is a hero to his debtors. That said, none of us should expect respect or appreciation from our debtors. Our project was incomplete. However, in retrospect, we could have and perhaps should have treated white man’s burden as Pragmatic Heathen rather than Utopian Christian and instead of converting (educating) them, and improving their condition, simply engaged in organized replacement of them. Because history shows we always ‘lose’ when we are tolerant, ruling, or colonizing, and we have always ‘won’ and advanced ourselves and mankind rapidly whenever we conduct replacement. And that is the lesson that our ungrateful ‘Debtors’ have taught us (yet again). The evidence is rather glaringly obvious: Replacement of less domesticated (evolved) peoples is the dominant force in developmental history, and produces the optimum results for not only us, but for all mankind. Hence the necessity of separatism. That is the lesson of history.

  • Grokking a Frame of Argument.

    October 26th, 2018 10:31 AM GROKKING “ELDERS OF THE BLACK SUN” FRAME OF ARGUMENT.

    —“( When we say ‘Tradition’ we are using it as a noun, a synonym to ‘Perennial Wisdom’) – a metaphysical claim to Truth. See: Perennial philosophy – Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perennial_philosophy Specifically of the Traditionalist School (which purges the New Agey bs) See: Traditionalist School – Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_School )”— Elders of the Black Sun 3

    [S]o you mean Wisdom (evidence of survival in use of prolongation of a group evolutionary strategy: ie Peterson’s ‘Darwinian Truth’ ) as an equivalent to Truth (testimony that is consistent, correspondent, coherent, operational, existentially possible, complete), independent of preference or good. And you mean Wisdom Literature rather than Scientific (Correspondent) Description. And which Tradition are you referring to? French, Authoritarian, Supernatural, or Anglo, Contractual, Real? I think you mean French, Authoritarian, Universal, and Supernatural, or the German restatement of Authoritarian, National, and Ideal(imaginary). But you don’t mean Anglo, Contractual, and Real (Science). Ok… so yes, you are speaking in Postmodern (anti-scientific, anti-real, anti-darwinian) school of the French and Italian catholic reformists: Traditionalist School. And, yes, you are relying on Perennialism (universalism, and eternalism of the content of the wisdom literature developed under agrarianism and pastoralism, but abandoned under industrialism.) So, Continental (Secular Catholic), Postmodern (anti-realist, anti-scientific), literature and intutionism (anti-calculation). And yes, this is the secularization of catholic authoritarian conformity of the laboring classes who cannot afford to learn, or are unable to learn, and then make use of calculation and computation for the purpose of competitive evolution, and so rely on sentimental stagnation as a resistance movement. Ok. I think I get it. Well, what I really like is the depth you’re going into. Good work.

  • “Unfortunately when people say they are Traditionalist they mean they are ideali

    —“Unfortunately when people say they are Traditionalist they mean they are idealists with no knowledge of actual tradition.”—Chris Moyer

    (now that’s a bit of insight for the day)

    (I would say it as:

    —“idealism is a means of providing false self confidence in the face of overwhelming but intolerable ignorance.”—

    )


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-26 09:34:00 UTC

  • There were humans in britain weighing 190 pounds, and 5’10” tall and built like

    There were humans in britain weighing 190 pounds, and 5’10” tall and built like a boxer, half a million years ago.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-26 00:35:04 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055618781932851200

  • Cont. 2) And that just as Semitic Theology was a counter-enlightenment against A

    Cont. 2) And that just as Semitic Theology was a counter-enlightenment against Aristotelian thought, Continental was against Anglo, and Marxist,Postmodernist,Feminist a counter-enlightenment against Poincare, Maxwell, Darwin, Menger, Spencer and Nietzsche’s scientific revolution.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-25 21:08:51 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055566885062877185

    Reply addressees: @PhilosophyCuck @MrKennan1948 @WorMartiN

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055556675585875968


    IN REPLY TO:

    @Jonas_Ceika

    @MrKennan1948 @curtdoolittle @WorMartiN The language is very familiar to me. What confuses me is the fact that it’s completely detached from any of my criticisms on the topic.

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055556675585875968

  • There were neanderthals in britain weighing 190 pounds, and 5’10” tall and built

    There were neanderthals in britain weighing 190 pounds, and 5’10” tall and built like a boxer, half a million years ago. 33,000 years ago, modern humans. when it was still a peninsula.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-25 20:34:00 UTC

  • “Face Among the Arabs”

    October 25th, 2018 12:10 PM SO, ARAB (AND BY PROX MUSLIM) ‘DIGNITY’ (SELF) VS WESTERN ‘REPUTATION’ (OTHERS) For those of you who have read this: “FACE AMONG THE ARABS” https://www.facebook.com/curt.doolittle/posts/10156731036117264 [T]his means ‘dignity’ as ‘given’ rather than ‘respect’ as “earned’ is not unique to Arab (semitic in general) civilizations. But most common there. And it is encoded in the Muslim Religion as all men are due dignity rather than all men must earn respect by their words and deeds. This ‘face’ is different from east asian face (harmony) and different from western face (truth regardless of consequences). I am not sure how to categorize Indian civilization yet within this context, but it appears closer to western and asian than semitic. And for those of you who understand this: —“The west differs from the rest in that we must demonstrate honor by speaking the truth no matter the consequences to the dominance dominance hierarchy, including our own.”— This statement is in fact the uniqueness of western civilization from which all our reason, law, science, technology, and economic superiority evolved. This ONE BEHAVIOR is the secret to western civilization. So, these two systems (western and semitic) are why our civilizations, especially given that most muslims are relatively poor and underclass, and most christians are relatively wealthy by comparison and middle class – are signal-and-norm incompatible. In this sense the muslim INTOLERANCE is greater (and more successful) than the western level of intolerance, even though the OUTCOME of western intolerance (reinforced by our law demanding truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, regardless of consequences to our reputations and those of others) is far superior to the muslim demand for ‘respect unearned’ (dignity). Because we domesticate the lower classes of man (the animal man so to speak) by signals (status signals) including demonstrations of ridicule, shame, ignoring them, disapproval, removal of opportunity, and punishment, by CONSTANT TRUTH AND MERIT TESTING, that is a threat do the Semitic and by extension Muslim sense of self worth. Hence why we are incompatible and we must suppress the primitive law (competitor to law) and suppress the primitive norms (competitors to our norms) in order to preserve the economic velocity that both the underclasses and the middle classes and (the extortive) upper classes depend upon.

  • “Face Among the Arabs”

    October 25th, 2018 12:10 PM SO, ARAB (AND BY PROX MUSLIM) ‘DIGNITY’ (SELF) VS WESTERN ‘REPUTATION’ (OTHERS) For those of you who have read this: “FACE AMONG THE ARABS” https://www.facebook.com/curt.doolittle/posts/10156731036117264 [T]his means ‘dignity’ as ‘given’ rather than ‘respect’ as “earned’ is not unique to Arab (semitic in general) civilizations. But most common there. And it is encoded in the Muslim Religion as all men are due dignity rather than all men must earn respect by their words and deeds. This ‘face’ is different from east asian face (harmony) and different from western face (truth regardless of consequences). I am not sure how to categorize Indian civilization yet within this context, but it appears closer to western and asian than semitic. And for those of you who understand this: —“The west differs from the rest in that we must demonstrate honor by speaking the truth no matter the consequences to the dominance dominance hierarchy, including our own.”— This statement is in fact the uniqueness of western civilization from which all our reason, law, science, technology, and economic superiority evolved. This ONE BEHAVIOR is the secret to western civilization. So, these two systems (western and semitic) are why our civilizations, especially given that most muslims are relatively poor and underclass, and most christians are relatively wealthy by comparison and middle class – are signal-and-norm incompatible. In this sense the muslim INTOLERANCE is greater (and more successful) than the western level of intolerance, even though the OUTCOME of western intolerance (reinforced by our law demanding truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, regardless of consequences to our reputations and those of others) is far superior to the muslim demand for ‘respect unearned’ (dignity). Because we domesticate the lower classes of man (the animal man so to speak) by signals (status signals) including demonstrations of ridicule, shame, ignoring them, disapproval, removal of opportunity, and punishment, by CONSTANT TRUTH AND MERIT TESTING, that is a threat do the Semitic and by extension Muslim sense of self worth. Hence why we are incompatible and we must suppress the primitive law (competitor to law) and suppress the primitive norms (competitors to our norms) in order to preserve the economic velocity that both the underclasses and the middle classes and (the extortive) upper classes depend upon.

  • USA: 6% HARD RIGHT, 8% HARD LEFT? Well, that means that 10% of the ethnically eu

    USA: 6% HARD RIGHT, 8% HARD LEFT? Well, that means that 10% of the ethnically european population is hard right. That’s more than either the christianization of rome 9%, or the nazis in germany 7% or the Bolsheviks in Russia ~3%.
    @GlennF @FortuneMagazine
    http://fortune.com/2018/10/22/far-right-americans-just-six-person-study-says/


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-25 18:02:10 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1055519904668020736