Theme: Agency

  • once males had tools, and particularly spears it was possible for females to ral

    once males had tools, and particularly spears it was possible for females to rally males to constrain alphas – and females could gain some control of reproduction, – and contractualism could improve among males.

    Her argument that females were abused is a moralism – meaningless. evolution doesn’t care.

    groups of males possess territory and females in competition with other males who desire to take both. females can obtain ingroup status and influence more safely than outgroup.

    humans developed pairing off and serial monogamy out of safety since males will kill over access to females (reproduction) more so than any other incentive.

    agrarianism changed everything and gave us marriage and property. as well as customs and laws.

    we are in a post agrarian period and reverting to serial monogamy in lower classes and maintaining monogamy in the upper. this has drastically increased single motherhood, lower male loyalty to offspring, decreased household size and eliminated the middle class.

    women’s intuitions are cumulatively decivilizing (experiential rather than consequential) under monopoly democracy, so without creating separate houses of government for males and females, we should continue to decline into the south american model with women’s entry into the voting pool the cause.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-11-09 12:55:00 UTC

  • WE HAVE TO MAKE IT REAL FOR PEOPLE: ACTIONABLE —“People buy into HOPE PORN bec

    WE HAVE TO MAKE IT REAL FOR PEOPLE: ACTIONABLE

    —“People buy into HOPE PORN because they don’t know what to DO about the status quo. Having concrete steps to take promotes realism.”—Jennifer Dean


    Source date (UTC): 2018-11-09 09:03:00 UTC

  • BECOMING REAL by Bill Joslin (brilliant) You are not real, you don’t exist until

    BECOMING REAL

    by Bill Joslin

    (brilliant)

    You are not real, you don’t exist until you act in the world – until an impact has been catalyzed. Nothing else; morals, hope, intentions, thoughts, feelings; none of it exists, only the acts and consequences of acts exist – you are what you’ve done – realz over feels…

    When assessing the people around you, all that matters is what they’ve done and can do – not how nice they are, how moral they are, how amiable you find them, what they say – they are what they do. If they can’t do – there’s is nothing you can do with or for them- they are not equals and must be led.

    Likewise – if you can’t do (we all have our limits) then best to step aside. Your intentions, thoughts, feels, understanding is useless and pointless until you can act.

    Extrapolate this into larger scales – social norms, group identity, customs, are ghosts – not quite real until codified in law and law doesn’t exist until there is force to make it real (consequential)…

    Therefore – if you want your people to exist – you must rule and many of your people won’t be able to rule, so you must lead them – sheepdog rule or your people , you, aren’t real.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-11-09 08:56:00 UTC

  • Launch Time

    BECOMING REAL
    by Bill Joslin
    (brilliant) You are not real, you don’t exist until you act in the world – until an impact has been catalyzed. Nothing else; morals, hope, intentions, thoughts, feelings; none of it exists, only the acts and consequences of acts exist – you are what you’ve done – realz over feels… When assessing the people around you, all that matters is what they’ve done and can do – not how nice they are, how moral they are, how amiable you find them, what they say – they are what they do. If they can’t do – there’s is nothing you can do with or for them- they are not equals and must be led. Likewise – if you can’t do (we all have our limits) then best to step aside. Your intentions, thoughts, feels, understanding is useless and pointless until you can act. Extrapolate this into larger scales – social norms, group identity, customs, are ghosts – not quite real until codified in law and law doesn’t exist until there is force to make it real (consequential)… Therefore – if you want your people to exist – you must rule and many of your people won’t be able to rule, so you must lead them – sheepdog rule or your people , you, aren’t real.

  • Becoming Real

    SEEING THE DICHOTOMY AND TEACHING IT
    by John Mark Now that I see this dichotomy between hopeful-moral-wishful thinking and resigned-legal-realistic thinking, I see it everywhere. Leftists, obviously moral/wishful. Libertardians, “principled conservatives”, classical liberal, and Civnats are still moral/wishful. Even my wife, after Dems took the House, was emotionally upset. I said, “I’ve been telling you democracy is false hope for a long time now. Even if we’d won the House it would mean nothing in the long run.” “Yeah, but it’s just so upsetting (moral rant as she works through the emotions).” It is hard to have your hopes shattered. High-openness right-wingers have it a bit easier because we immediately probe for outside the box solutions, that’s what we do. Low-openness folks have it harder because change is less comfortable for them in general. It’s amazing watching the Right catch up to us slowly in real time. TheConservativeTreehouse (boomer civnat site) comment section on midterms night had many people saying “this was the nonwhites”. A new dynamic for them, normally signal hard against any race talk. The site proprietor said he just wanted to go fishing. (Emotional/wishful/hopeful thinking being shattered into realism.) Becoming more aspie/scientific/realistic is emotionally difficult for most people, it usually only happens through the trauma of reality slapping them in the face brutally, and even then humans show a remarkable capacity to resist it. But any individual or group that embraces it (classic example Western Civ) to a greater extent than others has a tremendous advantage. So the question is vital: How do we train it? –John Mark (CD: The Law is Easy to Teach)

  • A Goal of Educating ‘men’ so That We Rule by Reason Rather than Wishful Thinking?

    Bill Joslin,
    Seems minor but is the hardest problem of training a core: what do men need to learn to change from hopeful and moral, to resigned and legal frames. YOu stated your change of frame. I watched it happen. How can we EXPLICITLY state this objective as a goal of educating ‘men’ so that we rule by reason rather than wishful thinking? Thanks.

  • Launch Time

    BECOMING REAL
    by Bill Joslin
    (brilliant) You are not real, you don’t exist until you act in the world – until an impact has been catalyzed. Nothing else; morals, hope, intentions, thoughts, feelings; none of it exists, only the acts and consequences of acts exist – you are what you’ve done – realz over feels… When assessing the people around you, all that matters is what they’ve done and can do – not how nice they are, how moral they are, how amiable you find them, what they say – they are what they do. If they can’t do – there’s is nothing you can do with or for them- they are not equals and must be led. Likewise – if you can’t do (we all have our limits) then best to step aside. Your intentions, thoughts, feels, understanding is useless and pointless until you can act. Extrapolate this into larger scales – social norms, group identity, customs, are ghosts – not quite real until codified in law and law doesn’t exist until there is force to make it real (consequential)… Therefore – if you want your people to exist – you must rule and many of your people won’t be able to rule, so you must lead them – sheepdog rule or your people , you, aren’t real.

  • “If you will fight then you will earn an opinion. If you will not, you don’t. It

    —“If you will fight then you will earn an opinion. If you will not, you don’t. It’s not a grey area.”— Anon.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-11-08 15:23:00 UTC

  • Utopianism

    GOOD CRITICISM: UTOPIANISM? BUT NO…. —“Propertarianism as far as I understand is an utopian vision of humanity as primarily rational. An implementation of such an utopian vision may have many unforeseen consequences, as micromanagement of human resources is not in Curt’ strategic vision. The general disapproval of Abrahamic cults within his system may lead to many improvised atrocities, created out of sheer escalation of violence. To conclude – this scene is possible and likely to happen, although Curt would probably disapprove of it.”—Igor Rogov –” … an utopian vision of humanity as primarily rational.”– No, but that law is conducted rationally empirically and tediously operationally. And the legal class is in fact, rational. Frames: Math, Science, Economics, Law, History, Literature, Philosophy, Religion(Theology), and the Occult and Magic. People. —“… An implementation of such an utopian vision may have many unforeseen consequences,…”— Hmmm…. All increases in the suppression of violence, theft, and fraud have predictable universal consequences, and that is raising the cost of doing so, and shifting people either into markets or into more advanced (indirect) means of parasitism. All decreases in superstition have produced extraordinary increases in quality of life. The problem we see is the inadequate suppression of pseudoscience(marxism and fiat monetarism), sophism(postmodernism and feminism), and supernaturalism (islam and judaism in particular). There is every reason to expect that increases in the ‘scientification’ of the social sciences will produce the same or better returns than the ‘scientification’ of the physical sciences. There is certainly every reason to expect that definancializing, de politicizing, and suppressing fraud, libel, and slander will produce windfalls that will restore the pre-72 middle class rates at the expense of financial class and bureaucratic and media rates. It’s not that there won’t be unexpected consequences, but that those unexpected consequences have historically been fantastic. It was the rollback of our laws to ‘tolerate’ consumer capitalism that has been the problem. THE CONFLICT Can you teach mindfulness, ethnonationalism, transcendence and create a non-supernatural religion? Absolutely. it was the hardest problem to solve. it is absolutely possible. if it is possible to teach reading, writing, and arithmetic, manners, ethics, morals and norms, it is possible to teach mindfulness – and we know so that the more desirable civilizations appear to do so. So the argument that we must have a ‘religion of nonsense’ is false. However…. If people wanna make cults they will no matter what anyone does because it fills a need. That does not mean the need the cults fill is the only one possible. As today many means of framing the world exist in each culture with classes navigating to the most useful. I have been struggling to further understand, but as someone (possibly also Igor) helped me understand, Slavic civ does not have one other than the church. However, the west has all of those Frames listed above; India has at least the scientific, legal, political-philosophical, and traditional-religious. And china has the scientific, bureaucratic, wisdom lit, and buddhism. Japan has the the shinto and buddhist as well as feudal martial, and confucian and now scientific. I can go through most cultures but one of the things I have come to understand is that there are cultures that produced no wisdom lits of their own. And this is a bigger hurdle than I had originally imagined. So this is why it is easier for some western groups and harder than others, is longer periods under MORE LITERATURES, producing classes in each of the literatures over time. Thereby relying on a portfolio rather than a monopoly. PROPERTARIANISM’S CONTENTS: 1) explain the cause of western uniqueness (Done)
    2) create a formal, value-independent, cross disciplinary, fully commensurable language sufficient for decidability of ALL conflicts in court, thereby restoring the market for common law in opposition to the market for goods services and information.. (Done)
    3) create a constitution restoring that uniqueness using that language (Done) within that constitution, ALSO provide a set of incentives for definancializing, de-propagandizing, de-politicizing the current era.( Done)
    4) Apply the method to all questions – literally all. Such that we demonstrate how these CAN be decided. In other words produce a canon of solved problems so that lies cannot be made as they were in the past.
    5) Produce advice on a “means of transition.” AS SUCH
    it is an evolutionary enhancement of law that extends the current tort constraint on goods and services and the speech regarding each to political speech in order to compensate for the industrialization of lying that has been made possible by the development of mass media.

  • It’s not a grey area.

    —“If you will fight then you will earn an opinion. If you will not, you don’t. It’s not a grey area.”— Anon.