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  • Curt: Can a Sane Person Have Faith?

    October 17th, 2018 CURT: CAN A SANE PERSON HAVE FAITH?

    —“Curt, is it possible for a man to believe in Christian doctrine without being a borderline schizophrenic or a closet atheist with personal issues? Can a sane man of at least average intelligence believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God in good faith?”— Scott Cameron

    [W]ell, this confuses Sanity with Agency. Can a sane man do so? Well, evidence that sane and insane people do so. The question is can a man possessed of Agency do so? I mean, for all intents and purposes I ‘believe’ in the characters of history although they are constructed through recursive narrative improvement into myths. That does not stop me, but helps me refer to them (imitate them) in disposition, frame of mind, and method of problem solving. The question is, whether you are imitating a history, a myth, or an occult version of whatever it is, and the assumptions you have about the universe when you imitate each of those criteria. Ergo: are you Relying on Knowledge (techne/history), Seeking Wisdom (general rules), or Seeking false comfort (falsehoods)? Christians tend to make pretty good people – a dumb christian is still a lot better than just about anything else because of its optimism (exhaustive forgiveness) which is the optimum group evolutionary strategy. I’ll refer you to this post (Oath): https://propertarianinstitute.com/2017/11/12/the-oath-of-transcendent-man-a-pagan-a-christian-an-aryan-a-warrior-a-man-transcendent/ And this paragraph:

    —“I am a christian if I have adopted the teaching of christianity: 1) the eradication of hatred from the human heart. 2) the extension of kinship love to non-kin. 3) the extension of exhaustive forgiveness before punishment, enserfment, enslavement, death, or war.”—

    This is the element of ‘faith’ in christianity. And it turns out to be correct: exhausting opportunities for cooperation before retaliating is the optimum cooperative strategy – there is none better. Nearly all humans (and animals) will cooperate given enough time to learn its value. Faith, in all its forms, is merely a way to circumvent problem solving when the neural (Bayesian) accounting (calculation) is beyond our capacity to reason. So faith allows us to ignore our intuitions and frustrations and calmly continue our efforts, with some semblance of piece of mind (confidence) in the outcomes. The rest of christianity is just nonsense. The act of ‘praying to’ (role playing with) a super-parent (fictional character) that you cannot lie to (omniscience) simply works by taking advantage of our innate abilities to self program our intuitions (pre rational searching). Role playing with Gods (eternal, magical), Demigods (immortal), heroes (simple superiors), and Ancestors and parents (our own heroes as children), works for the same reason talking to priests, shrinks, and friends works: if we can train ourselves not to lie to ourselves the role playing will ‘work’. We consist of a physical body, a set of physical (cognitive) biases, a set of intuitions that are limited by those biases, and our ability to reason, and speak. Speech allows us to program our intuition and therefore compete with our genetic biases that evolved under primitive circumstances of the pack and tribe. THere is nothing terribly magical about this process. Nor need there be. The stoics learned how to do it without superstition. The buddhists did not. There is no reason we cannot ‘train ourselves’ in stoicism on the one hand, and role playing with heroes, demigods, and gods on the other, while not understanding what it is that we do. It is far better than allowing ourselves to be constantly manipulated by priests, politicians, public intellectuals, and marketers of all kinds. Fairy tales -> Myths and Legends -> Historical Biographies -> Histories -> Legal Histories + Economic Histories + Technological Histories -> The Sciences -> Mathematics.I talk to my god every day. I largely do what he informs me. I do not however mistake his existence for his function. The simpleton cannot do such a thing. But he can worship nature, ancestors, and not be taught lies.

  • This Oath Is Very Close to My Understanding of The Optimum Religion

    October 17th, 2018 11:44 AM THIS OATH IS VERY CLOSE TO MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE OPTIMUM RELIGION [I] think of it (the oath) as christians do the lord’s prayer (oath of fealty) https://propertarianinstitute.com/2017/11/12/the-oath-of-transcendent-man-a-pagan-a-christian-an-aryan-a-warrior-a-man-transcendent/

  • To Elders of The Black Sun 3 – Aristocracy and Law

    October 17th, 2018 9:54 AM TO ELDERS OF THE BLACK SUN 3 – ARISTOCRACY AND LAW 1) All religions are substitutes for the Initiatic Brotherhood of Warriors. There is no bond as strong – even kin. 2) The right is organized like christian denominations, as a class hierarchy with most literal at the bottom and most allegorical at the top. 3) Aristocratic orders (law) are always and everywhere imposed by Force (violence), and consist of 3.1) Law stated as myth 3.2) Law stated as process 3.3) Law stated as Law. 4) Religion is the cheapest means of TEACHING the Law by indoctrination (repetition). This is why ARISTOCRACY conquerors with violence, and adopts Religions and Priesthood to Rule (morally) and retains Law to Rule (commercially), and retains Violence to Rule (militarily). 5) All religious content contains (a) group evolutionary strategy (method of cultural warfare), (b) normative law, and (c) constitutional law (limitations on the people and the ruler). 6) The western Myth during our ascent was Homer (The Tragedy of Achilles) (Heroic Aristocracy). The semites adopted this and reversed it as the Tragedy of Jesus (victim as hero). Our ascent in the late medieval world was due to the restoration of Aristotle (Power over nature) and restoration of commerce (HRE/Hansa Trade), and rapid expansion (colonialism by sail). The Semites retaliated with The Tragedy of Labor (victim as hero), followed by the revolt against Darwin (The Anti-Nazi Cult – victim as hero). What narrative will compete with them?

  • Solving Religion: The Ultimate Test of Agency

    October 17th, 2018 11:42 AM SOLVING RELIGION: THE ULTIMATE TEST OF AGENCY [S]olving religion was the hardest problem. Truth was trivial by comparison. The reason being that we are less invested in truth (reason) than we are in intuitions (training). I solved religion. The question is, what can be done about it for the masses, when the purpose of faith is to circumvent reason and to relieve the individual of all sorts of calculation, particularly STATUS (self image), which is the human’s instinctual accounting system. So, people malinvest in religions (wisdom narratives) for the purpose of cognitive and signaling discounts, and as such they defend their malinvestments like they defend all forms of investment (property). Hence why religion is the ultimate test of Agency.

  • To Elders of The Black Sun 3 : Evola

    October 17th, 2018 9:49 AM TO ELDERS OF THE BLACK SUN 3 : EVOLA [E]vola, like Nietzsche was trying to create a new mythos of criticism. The problem is, that all cults are likewise, cultural warfare against something (others), but provide a positive corpus. The reason we have not solidified an alternative is the lack of a positive corpus (mythos).

  • Law and The Limits to Wisdom Literature (cults)

    October 17th, 2018 11:32 AM LAW AND THE LIMITS TO WISDOM LITERATURE (CULTS)

    —“I’m concerned that you are unwilling to allow anything outside of your materialist paradigm Curt.”— Claire Rae Randall

    No, I am limiting the imaginary (Fictions) to the non-harmful. 😉 I write about the science and LAW of religion. What religions emerge from the science and consequential LAW is not something that terribly much bothers me. It just can’t be as destructive as the abrahamic religions, or as limiting as the hindu or buddhist, but must do the opposite: provide ability to act, rather than escape. Stoicism + Mythology + Literature + History will work. I WRITE SCIENCE OF LAW (TRUTH). It is a via-negativa. A set of LIMITS. WHat people do within those limits is simply another market for productive, fully informed (truthful), warrantied, voluntary exchange, absent imposition upon the accumulated intersets of others by externality. That which is OUTSIDE of the law violates one of those tests.

  • To Elders of The Black Sun 3 : Possible Orders

    October 17th, 2018 9:46 AM TO ELDERS OF THE BLACK SUN 3 : POSSIBLE ORDERS [O]K, so you are producing sufficient depth of thought so that if you work at it enough you can produce a canon. Organizational charts (prescriptions) are open to implementation the way simple sentimental resonance (Evola) is not. However, all civilizations are organized by law (or more precisely, rules). Islam is ‘easy’ because the rules are so complete, and an imbecile can memorize the myth, and principles through repetition. Christianity was imposed by coercion (literacy), as a market competition between church (nobility) and military (aristocracy). Judaism is used to preserve separatism. Hindu ‘law’ is limited but the mythos vast. Buddhism always and everywhere coexists with a martial or bureaucratic state. Hinduism and Shintoism do not need so much ‘authority’ because of genetic and cultural homogeneity. Christianity was germanicized for the same reason. Orthodoxy and islam exist across less developed (market) peoples (orthodoxy), and islam across both less developed and tribal peoples (constant hostility). We do not succeed with ideal religions. We succeed with religions that solve a problem. What religion will solve the problem of modernity AND ethnocentrism, since ethnocentrism is the optimum organizing method as long as it’s not regressive. Jews survived by parasitism on existing civilizations through profit from moral hazard, accumulating capital, and then using it for more moral hazard, until they were cast out. During that entire time they contributed nothing to humanity (competitiveness) until converted to aristotelianism. In general, either (a) produce a fiction that people want to run to for economic or political reasons (marxism, postmodernism, feminism); (b) produce an economic order that people want to run to for economic reasons; (c) Produce a Myth of Conquest by which a small group of men can take advantage of a weakness in a current order; (d) produce an improvement in a mythos over a homogenous polity that provides greater explanatory power, and greater utility, and greater methods of cooperation in new (current) conditions. There are only three possible incentives in the production of order: Law/Violence, Commerce/Wealth, Cult/Cooperation

  • Religious Justification (excuse) vs Scientific Falsification (survival)

    October 17th, 2018 11:01 AM RELIGIOUS JUSTIFICATION (EXCUSE) VS SCIENTIFIC FALSIFICATION (SURVIVAL)

    —“Accepting scientific authority without conducting the experiments and doing the research yourself is an expression of faith.”— Clay Caldwell

    [L]ikewise, accepting supernatural authority without direct, testifiable, experience of the people and events, and miracles(magic) is an act of faith. Whereas due diligence in science is an effort to disprove a theory, not prove one. we cannot prove science. We can only find possibilities and seek to falsify them until we can’t. When we can’t falsify them (because of coherence, consistency, and correspondence, and explanatory power, and parsimony) then we have to admit to ourselves that it’s likely true. So it’s not true that one has ‘faith in science’ but one simply does the hard work of falsifying our fantasies such that only that which we cannot make false remains – that’s the entire point of scientific research: to perform due diligence against your imagination, by producing measurements that eliminate the possibility of your imaginings. The problem is that one can read either the research or other’s fictionalism or sensationalism of that research. And it takes great knowledge to understand such research, while only takes the mind of a child to understand mythology by intuition and imitation. So knowledge < wisdom < parable describe a means of graceful failure from those who possess knowledge and ability to those that possess neither. We can train people’s intuition many ways, and it turns out that abrahamic religion, like marxism, postmodernism, and feminism, is just the worst way possible.

  • To Elders of The Black Sun 3 : On Stasis

    October 17th, 2018 9:31 AM TO ELDERS OF THE BLACK SUN 3 : ON STASIS 1 – consciousness (awareness) declines as population increases. 2 – ancient orders (as proposed) preserved agrarian stasis, and as such members were enforcers not problem solvers (innovators, competitors). 3 – we no longer live in an era where we can seek stasis and survive (compete against competitors), but in an era where he who adapts fastest wins. It is normal for the human mind to seek an order he comprehends at the expense of the continuous fragility of that order to conquest (christianity, islam, hinduism). The great (powerful) civilizations (China, Carthage, Rome, HRE, British Empire, American Empire imposed legal order (negative) and ritual (continuous reminders of the importance of the order), The weak civilizations collapsed (Arab > Turkic > Now Iranic?, Hindu) only appear powerful because they sat (prior to sail) in the territorial axis of the continents, and could tax the world center of trade because of it. We don’t live in an agrarian (stasis) world any longer. We can, if you want to return to a world population of under 1b, but the people who outnumber us (we are in total less than 700M, and those of us who are conservative a fraction of that) will resist any such thing.

  • Curt: Can a Sane Person Have Faith?

    October 17th, 2018 CURT: CAN A SANE PERSON HAVE FAITH?

    —“Curt, is it possible for a man to believe in Christian doctrine without being a borderline schizophrenic or a closet atheist with personal issues? Can a sane man of at least average intelligence believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God in good faith?”— Scott Cameron

    [W]ell, this confuses Sanity with Agency. Can a sane man do so? Well, evidence that sane and insane people do so. The question is can a man possessed of Agency do so? I mean, for all intents and purposes I ‘believe’ in the characters of history although they are constructed through recursive narrative improvement into myths. That does not stop me, but helps me refer to them (imitate them) in disposition, frame of mind, and method of problem solving. The question is, whether you are imitating a history, a myth, or an occult version of whatever it is, and the assumptions you have about the universe when you imitate each of those criteria. Ergo: are you Relying on Knowledge (techne/history), Seeking Wisdom (general rules), or Seeking false comfort (falsehoods)? Christians tend to make pretty good people – a dumb christian is still a lot better than just about anything else because of its optimism (exhaustive forgiveness) which is the optimum group evolutionary strategy. I’ll refer you to this post (Oath): https://propertarianinstitute.com/2017/11/12/the-oath-of-transcendent-man-a-pagan-a-christian-an-aryan-a-warrior-a-man-transcendent/ And this paragraph:

    —“I am a christian if I have adopted the teaching of christianity: 1) the eradication of hatred from the human heart. 2) the extension of kinship love to non-kin. 3) the extension of exhaustive forgiveness before punishment, enserfment, enslavement, death, or war.”—

    This is the element of ‘faith’ in christianity. And it turns out to be correct: exhausting opportunities for cooperation before retaliating is the optimum cooperative strategy – there is none better. Nearly all humans (and animals) will cooperate given enough time to learn its value. Faith, in all its forms, is merely a way to circumvent problem solving when the neural (Bayesian) accounting (calculation) is beyond our capacity to reason. So faith allows us to ignore our intuitions and frustrations and calmly continue our efforts, with some semblance of piece of mind (confidence) in the outcomes. The rest of christianity is just nonsense. The act of ‘praying to’ (role playing with) a super-parent (fictional character) that you cannot lie to (omniscience) simply works by taking advantage of our innate abilities to self program our intuitions (pre rational searching). Role playing with Gods (eternal, magical), Demigods (immortal), heroes (simple superiors), and Ancestors and parents (our own heroes as children), works for the same reason talking to priests, shrinks, and friends works: if we can train ourselves not to lie to ourselves the role playing will ‘work’. We consist of a physical body, a set of physical (cognitive) biases, a set of intuitions that are limited by those biases, and our ability to reason, and speak. Speech allows us to program our intuition and therefore compete with our genetic biases that evolved under primitive circumstances of the pack and tribe. THere is nothing terribly magical about this process. Nor need there be. The stoics learned how to do it without superstition. The buddhists did not. There is no reason we cannot ‘train ourselves’ in stoicism on the one hand, and role playing with heroes, demigods, and gods on the other, while not understanding what it is that we do. It is far better than allowing ourselves to be constantly manipulated by priests, politicians, public intellectuals, and marketers of all kinds. Fairy tales -> Myths and Legends -> Historical Biographies -> Histories -> Legal Histories + Economic Histories + Technological Histories -> The Sciences -> Mathematics.I talk to my god every day. I largely do what he informs me. I do not however mistake his existence for his function. The simpleton cannot do such a thing. But he can worship nature, ancestors, and not be taught lies.