https://propertarianinstitute.com/2020/07/21/q-what-to-do-when-the-man-knocks/HARD QUESTIONS: Q: WHAT TO DO WHEN THE MAN (LAW ENFORCEMENT) KNOCKS ;)Updated Jul 21, 2020, 6:49 PM
Source date (UTC): 2020-07-21 18:49:00 UTC
https://propertarianinstitute.com/2020/07/21/q-what-to-do-when-the-man-knocks/HARD QUESTIONS: Q: WHAT TO DO WHEN THE MAN (LAW ENFORCEMENT) KNOCKS ;)Updated Jul 21, 2020, 6:49 PM
Source date (UTC): 2020-07-21 18:49:00 UTC
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Source date (UTC): 2020-07-21 16:57:00 UTC
(Collection of Twitter Posts)
Great excuse. So, you’re a posturing little punk from a second world country promoting a third world political religion, trying to get attention, by bravado and insult when you can’t even demonstrate you have an argument worth showing up for? You won’t, cause you can’t, make one.
I set my criteria. If you won’t show up …… Then apologize for your behavior, show me an argument (even define NB as other than vague “Dugginism”), and show me evidence that you can hold an adult debate. If you can’t then you’re just a poser afraid to make a case in public.
I told you to apologize for your childishness, show me evidence you can hold a debate, or there is no debate to accept. I’m claiming you can’t debate, don’t have an argument, and are an attention whore. You have to be ABLE to debate. You’ve demonstrated you can’t. Man up.
So what are we doing to debate then? Adaptive innovative, mixed economies, versus a repetition of the soviet and Russian failures of the past? is this a debate over prices and incentives again? What is there to debate other than another promise ‘this time will be different’?
Yes, you disagree, you haven’t learned from the failures of the past (china has: nationalsm+state capitalism+to catch up). And so have we (nationalism + state capitalism to stay ahead). Russia is poor so it can’t take either path and will have to return to forced labor. Simple.
Unfortunately, Russia is very poor, vast, infrastructure costs too high, low trust, massively corrupt, hated by everyone around it for hubris, lacking population and economy to become a great power, and can only succeed by restoring forced labor and low productivity. I agree.
You seem to be under the illusion that Propertarinism is other than a formal logic social science that explains the European miracle and how to repeat it – with European people. Russia failed in joining advanced civilizations by creating trust necessary for complex organizations.
My work restores European peoples to their trajectory free of lying – bolshevik and otherwise. Economies and Political systems are just organizations necessary for any given set of conditions with a given demographic. Russia remains backward but moral, west immoral but forward.
There is no reason to do debate in person unless there is evidence one is worthy of debate. So far I don’t hear any argument worth having that hasn’t been settled by the evidence. I you can’t make an argument in text you sure as heck can’t make one in words.
We are still trying to determine if you have any argument. So far you say you have beliefs. But this occult-religious or secular-religious (ideological) not scientific or rational and worthy of debate.
Maybe can explain to me why you think your ‘maxism will work this time’?
You can say disagree with my ‘science’ but you’re merely saying you disapprove or dislike it. You’re not saying it’s false (and you can’t – I know). You can only say that only anglos are fit for rule of law, and no other people are, and as such, other means of government needed.
And this is why I prefer to ‘test the mettle’ of posers in public, and in writing, because I know full well that you have an empty hat, claiming a rabbit in it.
China uses facism. National Capitalism. Fascism won. Clan Beurearatic fascism won in both china and russia. Boslhevism is jewish communism. The underclasses can’t do anything competent and never have.
Russia had about the same # people, more resources, but Russian people are low trust, lazy, production quality was trash, and (STILL) can’t form large organizations because of low trust. (same as Muslims). Russians used cheap(forced) labor, US/CN used credit. Incentives mattered.
The condition for victory was that everything RU touched went backward by a century. Every RU immigrant had the same effect on ukraine, latvia, lithuania etc as africans did on the usa. Even today RU are all ‘Glopnkis’. We make fun of them in UA. Lazy, violent, criminal, corrupt.
There is no evidence of that. And I am certain I now the economics of it better than you do. The quality declined rapidly generation by generation as people learned ‘to do the minimum’. Only the military could function and did. Hence your instincts of militarization of economics.
So no, it was Russian under-development, rapid industrialization using militarization of the economy, the failure to grasp that while states can concentrate capital to form industries they must immediately be managerially privatized or they turn parasitic. That is a law of econ.
And they were wrong, right? Those economists were wrong? I was there in the 70’s when the soviet failure was obvious, 80’s when we chose to bankrupt it, and 90’s when everything fell apart, and they said ‘well, we didn’t see that coming’ – but we did.
I played in those Red Blue war games in the 80’s. I understood that we could never win a ground war, but russia could never win an economic and technological one.
We were sifting thru data on russian production. It was obvious. Just as the Stalin vs Kruchev era build quality.
The Russian empire failed for the same reason the nazi’s failed: conversion of religious into ideological zeal, so that preserving the system of lies was more important than reacting to the empirical evidence on the ground. Hitler, Soviets, Chinese, Jews, Muslims, xians failed.
RU empire fell because the J’s convinced the peasants that they could be saved from poverty and war if they fell for the false promise they were oppressed and could rule. Had the whites succeeded, the czar survived,and the Hohenzollern taken DU throne Russia could have caught up.
In the end, you are still saying that a military organization of production by peasants unable to organize by trust and law, can do anything other than bring a backward country into parity, before converting from forced labor to incentives to maintain competitive advantage.
Yes russian can dugginize as soon as western europe falls and provide europe with an army and cause the rest of europe to fall down to russian standards of incompetence and poverty.
Yes I expect that something like this might happen because Germany is weak, and France not strong.
All power rotation in history in all civs follows the same path. As the economy increase in prosperity the number of the territorial (martial)aristocracy must shrink, and a new ‘house’ for the merchants created since they now produce all tax revenues. UK/DU yes. FR/RU failed.
I don’t see that you have a debate other than that you are following the Tradition RU habit of historical revisionism and data-cherrypicking in order to avoid the central thesis, of force labor discounts at cost of corruption, vs incentive labor costs in favor of productivity.
The consensus among political theorists at present is that nationalism is on the rise, state capitalism won over market capitalism, and that states must act as primary venture capitalists, and the private sector manage state assets by incentives. Problem? Slavs can’t Truth/ROL.
And that in the absence of European empires, the British empire, the American ‘preservation’ of the British empire, that the world will return to normal as a conflict of civilizations led by core states, with ‘torn countries’ creating conflict between those civilizations.(TK)
And that in the absence of European empires, the British empire, the American ‘preservation’ of the British empire, that the world will return to normal as a conflict of civilizations led by core states, with ‘torn countries’ creating conflict between those civilizations.(TK)
Worse, world economic and military instability is now in the USA’s favor, since we can no longer afford to police the world’s seas. China has taken manufacturing base. Mexico our labor force. Immigration our culture, state, and proceeds. Jews our rule of law. We’re done.
So you’re talking about stupid shit of the last century thinking you’re smart by fighting a war that was decided a century ago, and failing to see the evidence before you.
Russia will not survive this century intact. Nor with the USA. China might now. And Europe is .. lost.
We just outlined the debate. I’ve engaged your points. Nothing can compensate for the failure of forced labor economies to produce continuously declining production, and continuously increasing corruption that creates negates initial advantage.
You’re afraid of public written debate because you can’t play (((Abrahamic games ))). and don’t want a public record of your defeat. And you cant get away with kiddie games in public text that you can with mainbois in ‘discord’.
There is no perfect steady state government. The optimum is a monarchy as a judge of last resort, a professional bureaucracy, with state as primary venture capitalist, ensuring that profits made from the people are shared with the people at least in their commons.
The level of participatory government depends on the relative size of the middle (asset responsible) classes – not taxpaying classes. The only value of participatory government is negative – to vote out people or down taxes or down policy.
These are just truths. How do they apply to your people? Well, that’ depends on the level of sophistication of your people. Russians are smart educated but trust no one.
Well, I got you to say Chinese (Nationalist) Intolerant (fascist) state-capitalist (State as primary investor) instead of some silly ideological bullshit so now we are at least talking like adults. And yes that is the wave of the future as far as I can tell. So what?
I’m educating the audience. And I’m establishing the terms of the debate. So far, all I know is that you’re arguing for state capitalism and haven’t read my seconddeclaration and how the state is organized, or how the financial sector is absorbed by the state
Except that we know what “Chinese nationalist fascist expansionist, state capitalist, mixed economy” means because it exists and is possible. If you want to try to legitimize antique labels that’s just intellectual dishonesty. China is reverting to WORLD HISTORICAL NORMS.
Source date (UTC): 2020-07-21 16:05:00 UTC
(You can succeed in biz in your life time. I did. Thinkers like me rarely succeed in their lifetimes, but that doesn’t stop us all from trying.)
Source date (UTC): 2020-07-21 14:35:00 UTC
EUGENICS
—“The only necessary policy: Forced sterilization of the dependent sub-90’s would be the only policy necessary. Since 90 floats on the average, this policy would never have to change.”—
That’s called ‘positive’ (or hard) eugenics’.
Well, we did it successfully prewar. But the postwar (a)propaganda (b) prohibition on research (c) pseudointellectual movements of marxism, postmodernism, feminism, and HBD-Denialism are all predicated on suppressing this one continuation of natural selection. The industrial revolution ended it. And that means eugenics is a great filter, and that the end result is extinction.
—“Not only will no one agree to this, but it has to be one of the darkest and most horrific approaches to dealing with ‘double-digiters’. A better way imo would be a 1 or no child policy for welfare.”—
That’s called ‘negative’ (or soft) eugneics.
Of course – that’s the right policy. 😉
And it’s what’s in our Constitutional recommendations.
Source date (UTC): 2020-07-21 14:18:00 UTC
EUGENICS SUCCEEDS – EVEN PLATO DISCUSSED IT
Eugenics (/juːˈdʒɛnɪks/; from Greek εὐ- “good” and γενής “come into being, growing”) is a set of beliefs and practices that aim to improve the genetic quality of a human population,[3][4] historically by excluding people and groups judged to be inferior and promoting those judged to be superior.[5]
HISTORY
The concept predates the term; Plato suggested applying the principles of selective breeding to humans around 400 BC. Early advocates of eugenics in the 19th century regarded it as a way of improving groups of people. In contemporary usage, the term eugenics is closely associated with scientific racism and white supremacism.[2] Modern bioethicists who advocate new eugenics characterise it as a way of enhancing individual traits, regardless of group membership.
PRE-WAR SUCCESSES
While eugenic principles have been practiced as early as ancient Greece, the contemporary history of eugenics began in the early 20th century, when a popular eugenics movement emerged in the United Kingdom,[6] and then spread to many countries, including the United States, Canada,[7] and most European countries. In this period, people from across the political spectrum espoused eugenic ideas. Consequently, many countries adopted eugenic policies, intended to improve the quality of their populations’ genetic stock. Such programs included both positive measures, such as encouraging individuals deemed particularly “fit” to reproduce, and negative measures, such as marriage prohibitions and forced sterilization of people deemed unfit for reproduction. Those deemed “unfit to reproduce” often included people with mental or physical disabilities, people who scored in the low ranges on different IQ tests, criminals and “deviants,” and members of disfavored minority groups.
DOWNFALL
The eugenics movement became associated with Nazi Germany and the Holocaust when the defense of many of the defendants at the Nuremberg trials of 1945 to 1946 attempted to justify their human-rights abuses by claiming there was little difference between the Nazi eugenics programs and the U.S. eugenics programs.[8] In the decades following World War II, with more emphasis on human rights, many countries began to abandon eugenics policies, although some Western countries (the United States, Canada, and Sweden among them) continued to carry out forced sterilizations.
REVIVAL
Since the 1980s and 1990s, with new assisted reproductive technology procedures available, such as gestational surrogacy (available since 1985), preimplantation genetic diagnosis (available since 1989), and cytoplasmic transfer (first performed in 1996), concern has grown about the possible revival of a more potent form of eugenics after decades of promoting human rights.
CRITICISM
A criticism of eugenics policies is that, regardless of whether negative or positive policies are used, they are susceptible to abuse because the genetic selection criteria are determined by whichever group has political power at the time.[9] Furthermore, many criticize negative eugenics in particular as a violation of basic human rights, seen since 1968’s Proclamation of Tehran[10] as including the right to reproduce. Another criticism is that eugenics policies eventually lead to a loss of genetic diversity, thereby resulting in inbreeding depression due to a loss of genetic variation.[11] Yet another criticism of contemporary eugenics policies is that they propose to permanently and artificially disrupt millions of years of evolution, and that attempting to create genetic lines “clean” of “disorders” can have far-reaching ancillary downstream effects in the genetic ecology, including negative effects on immunity and on species resilience.[12]
(via wikipedia)
Source date (UTC): 2020-07-21 12:56:00 UTC
Today feels like a vacation day. 😉
Source date (UTC): 2020-07-21 11:54:00 UTC
—“Believing in gods as information is tantamount to atheism, because it asserts gods aren’t supernatural realities. Or have I misunderstood?’—Paul Bard
Or believing in gods are supernatural realities is tantamount to lying because it asserts that gods aren’t just information.
Atheism is denial of any such thing. the dispute is over supernatural or natural existence of gods. Only the natural is testifiable.
—“Okay. So “praying to god” is directly connecting with the evolved civilisational strategy as an overall archetype?”—Paul Bard
yes
—“Got it. So atheism falsely presumes certainty over an undecideable. Thank you.”—Paul Bard
Well done.
Source date (UTC): 2020-07-21 11:50:00 UTC
We live in a generation where men foolishly gave emotionally weak women the political power to make a continent of foolishly weak men, resulting in a foolishly weak civilization. Conquered once again by lies appealing to women: end of scarcity, end of inequality, end of market eugenics.
—“No wonder you supported Trump. You are a racist and misogynist just like Trump is.”–Ann Heffron
I’m a scientist, a jurist of law, and you’re an infant governed by your emotions, incapable of rational thought. 😉
Source date (UTC): 2020-07-21 11:48:00 UTC
We live in a generation where men foolishly gave emotionally weak women the political power to make a continent of foolishly weak men, resulting in a foolishly weak civilization. Conquered once again by lies appealing to women: end of scarcity, end of inequality, end of market eugenics.
Source date (UTC): 2020-07-21 11:46:00 UTC