***It is not my job to educate, but to prosecute. I have succeeded in my prosecution. …. If you need instruction you can ask. Had you asked for instruction we would not have prosecuted you. It is only by your arrogance that you required prosecution.***
Source date (UTC): 2017-02-28 18:54:00 UTC
—“You cant even answer a basic question because you lack the understanding to realize that virtue is a state of being rather a laundry list of quantifiable costs and benefits.”—-
(note: he can’t seem to grasp the difference between existentially demonstrable (true/false and qualifiable) versus quantifiable (unitary).) I this kind of thing is one of those indicators of ignorance that you know the poor individual cannot get past.)
Well since you can’t refute any of the arguments and I’ve refuted yours, and quite soon I suspect others will come along and educate you, that (a) you have no idea of the depth of argument I’m making, and (b) nor the depth of your folly.)
0 – I am avoiding the verb to-be because it is the most useful means of platonic pretense – lying. So I am attempting to force you into addressing that reality indirectly. That is what you ‘sense’ but cannot explain.
1 – define ‘state of being’ (it’s a nonsense statement don’t worry i’ll tear it apart as platonist) versus DEMONSTRATING. (The difference is constituted in internal experience and self judgement vs externally demonstrated action and the judgement of others)
2 – define how we may tell the difference between a person who pretends virtue yet causes negative externalities, a person who attempts to be virtuous in adverse circumstances but still fails, and person who produces no adverse externalities simply because he is privileged enough never to encounter them.
3 – explain to me any three virtues that do not require one pay a cost in order to demonstrate them in fact, rather than by luck or convenience.
4 – tell me the difference between belief (what you think), honesty (what you speak prior to due diligence), truthful (what you think once yo have performed due diligence, and truth (what we could describe if possessed of perfect knowledge, perfect language, and free of error, bias, and deceit) and DECIDABILITY – meaning that in a court of law how do OTHERS know that you are speaking with belief, honesty, truthfulness, or truth?
Maybe, just maybe, you will learn something profound today.
Curt Doolittle
The Cult of Non Submission
The Philosophy of Aristocracy
The Natural Law of Sovereign Men
The Propertarian Institute
Kiev, Ukraine
Source date (UTC): 2017-02-28 18:50:00 UTC
We are prosecutors. Why? We have taken away the benefit of the doubt under which the first great lie of the Jews (christianity), and the second great lie of the jews (marxism/ socialism/ libertarianism/ neoconservatism) has infected the west and which we still seek to escape from.
Propertarianism only asks whether you speak truthfully and warranty your statements, and whether you bear a cost or earn a profit, or cause a cost or earn a profit by the argument you make.
We have ended the great lies.
You no longer have the benefit of the doubt. We no longer seek justification for you to avoid blame, we seek survival from criticism, as your warranty, and resulting out come as your guilt or innocence.
In public speech, you are guilty until found not guilty.
That is what you have done.
Source date (UTC): 2017-02-28 16:31:00 UTC
VIRTUOUS AND ETHICAL BEHAVIOR IS DETERMINED BY COST
(full argument)(read it and weep. lol)
—“I can struggle not to cheat on my wife. And still fail. While you can argue it’s better that I at least struggled as opposed to gleefully giving into my hedonism, I still missed the mark concerning virtuous behavior.”—
Example of a parlor trick. Here is how to uncover the deception. (it’s a variation on the monty hall problem). In other words a common fraud conducted by suggestion.
1) I have a choice between two options: one that is less costly but produces negative externalities and one that is more costly but produces positive externalities.
a) I choose the one that is more costly because of the externalities it produces. (deliberately virtuous/moral)
or
b) I choose the other that is less costly regardless of the externalities it produces. (immoral)
OR
2) I have a choice between one that is less costly but produces positive externalities, and one that is more costly and produces negative externalities.
a) I choose the less costly that produces the positive externalities. (coincidentally virtuous)
or
b) I choose the more costly that produces the negative externalities. (evil/immoral)
1………..DV……I
2………..CV……E
Now, we can pretend under the POSITIVE is the full depth of the argument and assume we speak logically. Or we can fully account for the argument, and show that we do not.
3) Two individuals where one has more knowledge than the other. As the person with knowledge,
I have the choice of:
Virtuous/ethical/moral action with knowledge of the consequences, (ethical)
OR
I have the choice of unethical/immoral/evil actions with knowledge of the consequences (Unethical)
OR
I have the choice of taking the appearance of ethical action while producing immoral outcomes. (False Ethical)
So in this case we have FALSE POSITIVES.
1……E……U
2……FE….U
So the question is, given that an individual can claim he takes ethical action even with unethical designs, and the individual can claim he takes virtuous action, even when it is merely convenience for him (false ethical, and false virtue), the only way to objectively test for virtuous CHARACTER in past and FUTURE is not false virtue or false ethical action, but whether the individual bore a cost in the false virtue, or earned a profit in the false ethical.
You see?
The fact that an action coincides with the virtuous that DOES cost has no bearing on whether it is virtuous. Any more than an action exporting costs on which you profit is ethical.
See?
It is the COST and REWARD that tell us whether one acts virtuously and ethically.
QED
Thus Endeth The Lesson.
Source date (UTC): 2017-02-28 16:14:00 UTC
SYNONYMS
Altruism(direct), Morality(indirect), Virtue(long term)
a) find an example of altruism that is not an example of kin selection. (you won’t)
b) find an example of morality that is not an example of investing in future reciprocity (you won’t)
c) find an example of virtue that is not an example of bearing a cost (‘banking’). you won’t.
It should be fairly obvious after making a few lists of a/b/c that this is the same question at three different scales.
Source date (UTC): 2017-02-28 15:29:00 UTC
Is conscientiousness(costs) + dominance/submission the reduction the moral intuition?
Source date (UTC): 2017-02-28 15:04:00 UTC
CULTURAL OBSERVATIONS:
I seem to have discovered a condominium complex populated by little old french women who hate men and watch the Hallmark Channel.
(listen. marry badly and thats what happens.)
Source date (UTC): 2017-02-28 14:50:00 UTC
Isn’t “Virtue”, reducible to ‘bearing costs’ or ‘saving’?
Source date (UTC): 2017-02-28 10:45:00 UTC
You know, I can almost unwind this damn thing into a series of dependencies upon information…. not quite, almost. been bothering me since maybe 83? 84?
The five factor model is utilitarian not descriptive or causal. what’s the cause?
Calm <–> Worry Spectrum (fear)
Patience <–>Impulsivity (dominance)
Autism(intro) <–> Solipsism(extro) Spectrum (“Degree of Self”)
Intelligence <–> Unintelligence Spectrum (Resource)
Dominance – Submission
Excited – Rest
Pain – Pleasure
Damage Budget (physical asset)
Energy Budget (fitness asset)
Emotional budget (emotional asset)
Intellectual budget (intellectual asset)
Source date (UTC): 2017-02-28 10:38:00 UTC
CULTURAL OBSERVATIONS
Hippy Trendy University Coffee Shop
34? year old, tall, attractive, fit brunette, very low crazy factor. Must have military experience. Speaks clearly and professionally and with confidence.
Talking to a man about how she has asked a male friend to order a shotgun for her closet.
The man she is speaking to is going into as much unnecessary and irrelevant detail about the irrelevant differences between shotguns as most women speak of the irrelevant differences between experiences.
I love us humans. We’re all insane.
Source date (UTC): 2017-02-28 10:28:00 UTC