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  • (stupid stuff) I don’t have time for games, but I fit a few hours in now and the

    (stupid stuff) I don’t have time for games, but I fit a few hours in now and then. Unfortunately, I still haven’t found anything to compete with skyrim(past)/dead island(present)/borderlands(future). Loot games keep my interest. Lots of dopamine. lolz


    Source date (UTC): 2017-11-18 15:56:00 UTC

  • The principle problem with reorganizing linguistics is deflating ‘universal gram

    The principle problem with reorganizing linguistics is deflating ‘universal grammar’, into the three spectrums of experience, and the physical, ideal, and imaginary dimensions of the universe.

    I can reduce the physical dimensions to action, and the experiential to combinations of reward systems (prey drive/mate drive), and the imaginary to a combination thereof. That’s just going to take me a long time. Maybe a year at the minimum – unless I’m lucky.

    But as I’ve tried to argue over the past few weeks I don’t think I need to go to that level in order to make my case.

    So I guess I have to say that I’m ‘unstuck’ from the grammar problem. And starting yesterday I was able to continue the chapter on vocabulary of epistemology.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-11-18 15:45:00 UTC

  • When you say ‘Pattern’ what do you mean? A set of constant relations

    When you say ‘Pattern’ what do you mean?

    A set of constant relations.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-11-18 15:15:00 UTC

  • SIGNAL VS NOISE You know, some of us seek signal and some of us seek noise. And

    SIGNAL VS NOISE

    You know, some of us seek signal and some of us seek noise. And the periodicity determines the difference.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-11-18 15:14:00 UTC

  • The problem is, people want lying. They just want they lying they agree with. Ou

    The problem is, people want lying. They just want they lying they agree with. Our job then is to eliminate it. And then people must trade rather than agree.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-11-18 15:10:00 UTC

  • THE PROBLEM IS LYING AND OVERLOADING – NOT LOGIC. WE ARE HELLA GOOD AT LOGIC. WE

    THE PROBLEM IS LYING AND OVERLOADING – NOT LOGIC. WE ARE HELLA GOOD AT LOGIC. WE ARE NOT HELLA GOOD AT OVERLOADING. HOW DO WE FIX THAT? GRAMMAR.

    —“+Curt Doolittle I’m always worried about these revisionist solutions since it seems so strange to tell someone, when you say “is”, you think that you mean one thing, but actually you mean several different things. But that aside, it seems that your solution just bites the bullet and admits that there is no such thing as identity since the only way that we can actually talk about identity is to talk about some component of identity: ownership, differentiation etc. It seems that this solution gives up the game since it just acknoledges that there is no real relation we are talking about when we are talking about identity. When someone asks you on the witness stand, “is this the same gun that you saw the defendant shoot your wife with?” Your only response can be in some ways yes and in other ways no, but identity is always a deception. If you think this, that’s fine, it is jsut a big bullet to bite. Or perhaps I have misrepresented your position?”— Carneades.org http://Carneades.org

    Apologies in advance that this is a bit heavy, but I have been thru your (wonderful) set of videos and you are clearly sophisticated enough for substantive discourse.

    THE CURSE OF INSTITUTIONALIZED PARADIGMS

    😉 It seems strange to tell someone that the earth is round, or that the stars are not pricks in the fabric of the sky, or most of all that velocity through space significantly alters the rate of change we call time. The fact that we continually correct ourselves is the purpose of reason. The strangeness of an increase in parsimony is evidence of the substantiality of error given its absence.

    Why? because by the combination of memory, action, and reason, we can continually increase our agency (physical, emotional, intellectual, social, political, evolutionary) and continually increase the capture of differences in state of the universe through our actions.

    OBSCURANTISM

    When we use the verb “to-be”, we use it to obscure one of the following (including my intentional use of the verb to be to refer to “currently acting” (doing) as illustration).

    1 – to overcome limits of less able minds to bear the cost in short term memory of

    2 – to save time and effort of grammatical construction among those who share sufficient context that they will not misconstrue our intent.

    3 – to avoid accountability for our testimony (promise).

    4 – to inflate a promise (conduct a pretense of knowledge) by habitual repetition of a convention we do not understand

    5 – to obscure our ignorance of the relations we testify to (promise).

    6 – to suggest relations that are present but insufficient for fulfillment of our promise.

    7 – to suggest relations that are not present because of ignorance, error, bias, wishful thinking, fictionalism, for the purpose of coercion.

    8 – to suggest relations that are not present for the purpose of deception or fraud.

    In other words, we use it because of Convenience, Ignorance, Error, Coercion, and Deceit..

    THE FICTION OF CONFLATION OF LAW(SCRIPTURE) WITH SPEECH.

    And so, while we can interpret scripture, the written word, and the recorded law, when we are dependent upon appeals to the authority of scripture, written word, and recorded law, in any circumstance where recursive discourse is possible, we produce statements that are undeniable (false), decidable(true), informative but undecidable, undecidable, and incomprehensible. And we can determine intentions are scientific and logical (false), testimonial and constructive (moral/true ), honest(moral), considerate(polite), immoral (coercive), and criminal (fraudulent).

    TRANSACTIONS RATHER THAN CREATIVE INTERPRETATIONS AND DECEPTIONS

    And to determine degree of decidability, and intentionality requires little more than complete sentences(full accounting) in operational grammar and semantics (complete transactions). And exercises in the ‘interpretation’ of incomplete transactions is … well, something close to a victorian parlor game.

    For example:

    “The cat is black” vs “I promise I see a cat, and I promise that its body appears black.”

    Is very similar to:

    “It’s a rational number” vs “That number consists of a fractional ratio of two or more positional names converted to decimal notation, that produces a equi-divisible, and therefore terminating, positional name” (where fraction is defined elsewhere).

    is very similar to:

    “The square root of two” and “infinity”, neither of which can exist, for precisely the same reasons: limits.

    And in the Ship of Theseus “of” serves that same function as ‘is’: to mislead.

    Stating the question as “That ship we contractually refer to as the ship owned by, paid for by, designed by, crafted by, constructed of….” each asks a different question.” (Our nouns contain these general properties of ownership, probability etc).

    While nouns, ( or referrers ) may be constructed by many means, from the arbitrary, to the fictional, to the allegorical, to the analogical, to the normative and traditional, to the descriptive to a set of measurements, to a set of relative measurements of a set of constant relations.

    So the ship of theseus consists which category of referrers? A contractual (normative) one.

    THE OPERATIONAL NAME OF “LOGIC”.

    The word “logic”, operationally refers to ‘the preservation of constant relations’ between states (statements) by one or more dimensions of constant relations.

    1 – So far as we know, the universe consists entirely of a hierarchical network of constant relations. (Soft Determinism)

    2 – While that universe appears to consist of a small number of constant relations (state) and possible operations (changes in state), through layers of permutations of possible operations great complexity can emerge.

    3 – Statements Definitions, tautologies, deductions, inductions, abductions and guesses (even free associations) require some set of constant relations between states (statements), by one or more dimensions of constant relations.

    4 – We are able to promise descriptions through guesses

    5 – We are able to state Tautologies through Guesses (even free associations) as a means of suggesting relations.

    6 – And we are able to state sets of tautologies through guesses to cumulatively (repeatedly) suggest relations.

    7 – And we are able at times (special cases) to construct proofs of possibility that survive competition with proofs of impossibility. (Where a proof consists of demonstration and survival of the preservation of constant relations between states (Statements).

    STRONG LANGUAGE WITH WEAK GRAMMAR

    Lucky as we are that english provides as a low context high precision language, and luckier that we are that english grammar generates an analytic rather than synthetic language, and lucky as we are that english contains semantics dialects such as working class germanic, aristocratic french, and intellectual latin and greek. And lucky as we are that english preserves methodological dialects, each of which varies in the preservation of one or more constant relations, including but not limited to the categorical (differences), arithmetic (positional), mathematical, financial, (formal) logical, algorithmic, scientific, legal, experiential(ordinary), fictional, mythic, supernatural, and occult. We remain somewhere between unlucky and primitive, because our grammar remains tainted by the 20th century failure of brewer, bridgman, mises, hayek, popper and dozens of others to complete the transition through probabilistic to operational semantics and grammar.

    But as lucky as we are and as unlucky as we have been, it is quite possible to produce a semantics, grammar and syntax of universal commensurability across all methodological dialects, using each to falsify the other. And that is the continued evolution of inventions of science, (inherited quite honestly from engineering), of the limit of testimony (descriptions) to operational language.

    THE SHIP OF THESEUS AS AN EXERCISE IN THE STUDY OF DECEPTION.

    Rational (kantian) Philosophy, mathematical platonism, pseudoscientific ficationalsms, hermeneutics, the interpretation of scripture, and the interpretation of law, all are

    So the proper answer to the Ship of Theseus, is that names consist of some combination of promises, and the contract for the name of the ship of theseus is by definition provided by the question, one of ownership, and our underlying cause of this undecidability begs the questions:

    1) why are we ignorant of grammar and semantics of the language we use, and

    2) why does sophomoric philosophy consist largely of questions employing this weakness in our semantics, grammar and its understanding,

    3) why is it, that we do not ask the question why most paradoxes of this nature are not in fact paradoxes, but deceptions. And

    4) why do we not learn that our world is full of deceptions because of the persistence of ideal, supernatural, and occult semantics and grammar? And

    5) why do we not punish people who perpetuate such deceptions by use of ideal, supernatural, and occult semantics and grammar? 😉 (The last a bit tongue in cheek.)

    So this particular ‘deception’ (by means of suggestion) is interesting because it provides a vehicle for exploring the techniques of deception and the techniques we use to construct names, and the REASON we use those names rather than other names. So we could say the ship built for theseus, using money he’d made from trading olive oil, by tom, dick, and harry, and designed by eric, during a certain date range, at a certain port, out of materials obtained from here there and everywhere.

    So the question is, which constant relations are we discussing? If the ship is dismantled and rebuilt by the same design I would say that one does not testify falsely by using the same short-name (theseus’s ship Mathilda).

    (more…)

    TRANSACTIONS: (CLOSING SUGGESTION): LOGIC WITHOUT GRAMMAR IDENTICAL TO ADDITION WITHOUT EQUALS SIGN, OR ACCOUNTING WITHOUT BALANCES, OR THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE WITHOUT EQUILIBRATION.

    Now, one last idea for you to mull over: We have been fussing over ‘logic’ for a very long time, and by and large it turns out to have done nothing at all beyond the trivial documentation of the various dimensions of constant relations in our language (nouns and verbs). Like game theory, logic does not scale. Our method of scaling logic has resulted in grammar just as the means of scaling physical interactions results in chemistry.

    The foundations of mathematics consist of a trivial necessity of the consequences of constant relations made possible to measure by use of positional names. The foundations of Language (a sequence of transactions describing change in state of relations using semantics(referents), grammar/rules, syntax) consist of three ranges of experience(measurements): physical(voluntary), experiential(involuntary), and imaginary(voluntary). And the actionable universe ends at four dimensions. And the semantic universe is constructed by changes in state within them, given the three ranges of experiences available to us, just as the physical, chemical, biological, and semantic evolve from the underlying forces of the universe.

    We have been trying to deflate our semantics, grammar, and syntax without grasping the rather obvious: that language consist of a fairly exhaustive inventory of thought at any given point in time, consisting of three sets of dimensions, four dimensions of reality, and n-dimensions of experience in an (as yet) endless set of hierarchical permutations. We must use language with some dependence upon logic or the relatively low bandwidth of serial phonetic communication using referential symbols would be useless.

    So humans are good at scaling logic. The problem we face consists of the conflation of various semantic sets (sets of in-commensurable constant relations), and the ease at which people’s abilities are overloaded by that process, forcing us to return to intuition because of the un-testability of incommensurable suggestions.

    in other words, logic merely amplifies the problem of overloading (which is why formal logic is not used outside of the discipline), and all other disciplines require demanding grammar, just as philosophy DOES NOT (heidegger etc).

    The problem we face is not the study of logic which is a necessary property of comprehension using referents (symbols) but constraining the grammar to complete transactions and the semantics to correspondence with a universal standard, and the only universal standard available to man – is actions.

    Curt Doolittle

    35 minutes ago (edited)

    TRANSACTIONS: (CLOSING SUGGESTION): LOGIC WITHOUT GRAMMAR IDENTICAL TO ADDITION WITHOUT EQUALS SIGN, OR ACCOUNTING WITHOUT BALANCES, OR THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE WITHOUT EQUILIBRATION.

    Now, one last idea for you to mull over: We have been fussing over ‘logic’ for a very long time, and by and large it turns out to have done nothing at all beyond the trivial documentation of the various dimensions of constant relations in our language (nouns and verbs). Like game theory, logic does not scale. Our method of scaling logic has resulted in grammar just as the means of scaling physical interactions results in chemistry.

    The foundations of mathematics consist of a trivial necessity of the consequences of constant relations made possible to measure by use of positional names. The foundations of Language (a sequence of transactions describing change in state of relations using semantics(referents), grammar/rules, syntax) consist of three ranges of experience(measurements): physical(voluntary), experiential(involuntary), and imaginary(voluntary). And the actionable universe ends at four dimensions. And the semantic universe is constructed by changes in state within them, given the three ranges of experiences available to us, just as the physical, chemical, biological, and semantic evolve from the underlying forces of the universe.

    We have been trying to deflate our semantics, grammar, and syntax without grasping the rather obvious: that language consist of a fairly exhaustive inventory of thought at any given point in time, consisting of three sets of dimensions, four dimensions of reality, and n-dimensions of experience in an (as yet) endless set of hierarchical permutations. We must use language with some dependence upon logic or the relatively low bandwidth of serial phonetic communication using referential symbols would be useless.

    So humans are good at scaling logic. The problem we face consists of the conflation of various semantic sets (sets of in-commensurable constant relations), and the ease at which people’s abilities are overloaded by that process, forcing us to return to intuition because of the un-testability of incommensurable suggestions.

    in other words, logic merely amplifies the problem of overloading (which is why formal logic is not used outside of the discipline), and all other disciplines require demanding grammar, just as philosophy DOES NOT (heidegger etc).

    The problem we face is not the study of logic which is a necessary property of comprehension using referents (symbols) but constraining the grammar to complete transactions and the semantics to correspondence with a universal standard, and the only universal standard available to man – is actions.

    NOW, IN THIS CONTEXT, IN RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION.

    Does any ideal exist? No.

    Identity requires a contract for constant relations.

    The question is, who is that contract with? And what are the terms?

    Because while a positional name cannot vary except in scale and referent, nearly all other names refer to some contractual necessity, norm, or habit.

    Can I use a better name than another to refer to the same entity under the same terms? Of course.

    The most parsimonious operational description possible constitutes the least erroneous name. Unfortunately, the terms of semantic contract vary substantially over time.

    Yet if all are expressed in a universally commensurable language of operational descriptions, then it is very difficult for the contractual terms of that contract to vary over time.

    Attempts to conflate the identity of positional names of scale independence with contractual references is rather foolish when we give it even the most tepid bit of thought.

    Either we speak in measurements of we speak in fantasies, and the most important question is not whether we speak the optimum: the most parsimonious description possible at the current level of understanding (truth), but whether we testify falsely as to the state of our knowledge.

    Curt Doolittle

    The Propertarian Institute

    Kiev, Ukraine


    Source date (UTC): 2017-11-18 14:38:00 UTC

  • THE PROBLEM IS LYING AND OVERLOADING – NOT LOGIC. WE ARE HELLA GOOD AT LOGIC. WE

    THE PROBLEM IS LYING AND OVERLOADING – NOT LOGIC. WE ARE HELLA GOOD AT LOGIC. WE ARE NOT HELLA GOOD AT OVERLOADING. HOW DO WE FIX THAT? GRAMMAR.

    —“+Curt Doolittle I’m always worried about these revisionist solutions since it seems so strange to tell someone, when you say “is”, you think that you mean one thing, but actually you mean several different things. But that aside, it seems that your solution just bites the bullet and admits that there is no such thing as identity since the only way that we can actually talk about identity is to talk about some component of identity: ownership, differentiation etc. It seems that this solution gives up the game since it just acknoledges that there is no real relation we are talking about when we are talking about identity. When someone asks you on the witness stand, “is this the same gun that you saw the defendant shoot your wife with?” Your only response can be in some ways yes and in other ways no, but identity is always a deception. If you think this, that’s fine, it is jsut a big bullet to bite. Or perhaps I have misrepresented your position?”— Carneades.org

    Apologies in advance that this is a bit heavy, but I have been thru your (wonderful) set of videos and you are clearly sophisticated enough for substantive discourse.

    THE CURSE OF INSTITUTIONALIZED PARADIGMS

    😉 It seems strange to tell someone that the earth is round, or that the stars are not pricks in the fabric of the sky, or most of all that velocity through space significantly alters the rate of change we call time. The fact that we continually correct ourselves is the purpose of reason. The strangeness of an increase in parsimony is evidence of the substantiality of error given its absence.

    Why? because by the combination of memory, action, and reason, we can continually increase our agency (physical, emotional, intellectual, social, political, evolutionary) and continually increase the capture of differences in state of the universe through our actions.

    OBSCURANTISM

    When we use the verb “to-be”, we use it to obscure one of the following (including my intentional use of the verb to be to refer to “currently acting” (doing) as illustration).

    1 – to overcome limits of less able minds to bear the cost in short term memory of

    2 – to save time and effort of grammatical construction among those who share sufficient context that they will not misconstrue our intent.

    3 – to avoid accountability for our testimony (promise).

    4 – to inflate a promise (conduct a pretense of knowledge) by habitual repetition of a convention we do not understand

    5 – to obscure our ignorance of the relations we testify to (promise).

    6 – to suggest relations that are present but insufficient for fulfillment of our promise.

    7 – to suggest relations that are not present because of ignorance, error, bias, wishful thinking, fictionalism, for the purpose of coercion.

    8 – to suggest relations that are not present for the purpose of deception or fraud.

    In other words, we use it because of Convenience, Ignorance, Error, Coercion, and Deceit..

    THE FICTION OF CONFLATION OF LAW(SCRIPTURE) WITH SPEECH.

    And so, while we can interpret scripture, the written word, and the recorded law, when we are dependent upon appeals to the authority of scripture, written word, and recorded law, in any circumstance where recursive discourse is possible, we produce statements that are undeniable (false), decidable(true), informative but undecidable, undecidable, and incomprehensible. And we can determine intentions are scientific and logical (false), testimonial and constructive (moral/true ), honest(moral), considerate(polite), immoral (coercive), and criminal (fraudulent).

    TRANSACTIONS RATHER THAN CREATIVE INTERPRETATIONS AND DECEPTIONS

    And to determine degree of decidability, and intentionality requires little more than complete sentences(full accounting) in operational grammar and semantics (complete transactions). And exercises in the ‘interpretation’ of incomplete transactions is … well, something close to a victorian parlor game.

    For example:

    “The cat is black” vs “I promise I see a cat, and I promise that its body appears black.”

    Is very similar to:

    “It’s a rational number” vs “That number consists of a fractional ratio of two or more positional names converted to decimal notation, that produces a equi-divisible, and therefore terminating, positional name” (where fraction is defined elsewhere).

    is very similar to:

    “The square root of two” and “infinity”, neither of which can exist, for precisely the same reasons: limits.

    And in the Ship of Theseus “of” serves that same function as ‘is’: to mislead.

    Stating the question as “That ship we contractually refer to as the ship owned by, paid for by, designed by, crafted by, constructed of….” each asks a different question.” (Our nouns contain these general properties of ownership, probability etc).

    While nouns, ( or referrers ) may be constructed by many means, from the arbitrary, to the fictional, to the allegorical, to the analogical, to the normative and traditional, to the descriptive to a set of measurements, to a set of relative measurements of a set of constant relations.

    So the ship of theseus consists which category of referrers? A contractual (normative) one.

    THE OPERATIONAL NAME OF “LOGIC”.

    The word “logic”, operationally refers to ‘the preservation of constant relations’ between states (statements) by one or more dimensions of constant relations.

    1 – So far as we know, the universe consists entirely of a hierarchical network of constant relations. (Soft Determinism)

    2 – While that universe appears to consist of a small number of constant relations (state) and possible operations (changes in state), through layers of permutations of possible operations great complexity can emerge.

    3 – Statements Definitions, tautologies, deductions, inductions, abductions and guesses (even free associations) require some set of constant relations between states (statements), by one or more dimensions of constant relations.

    4 – We are able to promise descriptions through guesses

    5 – We are able to state Tautologies through Guesses (even free associations) as a means of suggesting relations.

    6 – And we are able to state sets of tautologies through guesses to cumulatively (repeatedly) suggest relations.

    7 – And we are able at times (special cases) to construct proofs of possibility that survive competition with proofs of impossibility. (Where a proof consists of demonstration and survival of the preservation of constant relations between states (Statements).

    STRONG LANGUAGE WITH WEAK GRAMMAR

    Lucky as we are that english provides as a low context high precision language, and luckier that we are that english grammar generates an analytic rather than synthetic language, and lucky as we are that english contains semantics dialects such as working class germanic, aristocratic french, and intellectual latin and greek. And lucky as we are that english preserves methodological dialects, each of which varies in the preservation of one or more constant relations, including but not limited to the categorical (differences), arithmetic (positional), mathematical, financial, (formal) logical, algorithmic, scientific, legal, experiential(ordinary), fictional, mythic, supernatural, and occult. We remain somewhere between unlucky and primitive, because our grammar remains tainted by the 20th century failure of brewer, bridgman, mises, hayek, popper and dozens of others to complete the transition through probabilistic to operational semantics and grammar.

    But as lucky as we are and as unlucky as we have been, it is quite possible to produce a semantics, grammar and syntax of universal commensurability across all methodological dialects, using each to falsify the other. And that is the continued evolution of inventions of science, (inherited quite honestly from engineering), of the limit of testimony (descriptions) to operational language.

    THE SHIP OF THESEUS AS AN EXERCISE IN THE STUDY OF DECEPTION.

    Rational (kantian) Philosophy, mathematical platonism, pseudoscientific ficationalsms, hermeneutics, the interpretation of scripture, and the interpretation of law, all are

    So the proper answer to the Ship of Theseus, is that names consist of some combination of promises, and the contract for the name of the ship of theseus is by definition provided by the question, one of ownership, and our underlying cause of this undecidability begs the questions:

    1) why are we ignorant of grammar and semantics of the language we use, and

    2) why does sophomoric philosophy consist largely of questions employing this weakness in our semantics, grammar and its understanding,

    3) why is it, that we do not ask the question why most paradoxes of this nature are not in fact paradoxes, but deceptions. And

    4) why do we not learn that our world is full of deceptions because of the persistence of ideal, supernatural, and occult semantics and grammar? And

    5) why do we not punish people who perpetuate such deceptions by use of ideal, supernatural, and occult semantics and grammar? 😉 (The last a bit tongue in cheek.)

    So this particular ‘deception’ (by means of suggestion) is interesting because it provides a vehicle for exploring the techniques of deception and the techniques we use to construct names, and the REASON we use those names rather than other names. So we could say the ship built for theseus, using money he’d made from trading olive oil, by tom, dick, and harry, and designed by eric, during a certain date range, at a certain port, out of materials obtained from here there and everywhere.

    So the question is, which constant relations are we discussing? If the ship is dismantled and rebuilt by the same design I would say that one does not testify falsely by using the same short-name (theseus’s ship Mathilda).

    (more…)

    TRANSACTIONS: (CLOSING SUGGESTION): LOGIC WITHOUT GRAMMAR IDENTICAL TO ADDITION WITHOUT EQUALS SIGN, OR ACCOUNTING WITHOUT BALANCES, OR THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE WITHOUT EQUILIBRATION.

    Now, one last idea for you to mull over: We have been fussing over ‘logic’ for a very long time, and by and large it turns out to have done nothing at all beyond the trivial documentation of the various dimensions of constant relations in our language (nouns and verbs). Like game theory, logic does not scale. Our method of scaling logic has resulted in grammar just as the means of scaling physical interactions results in chemistry.

    The foundations of mathematics consist of a trivial necessity of the consequences of constant relations made possible to measure by use of positional names. The foundations of Language (a sequence of transactions describing change in state of relations using semantics(referents), grammar/rules, syntax) consist of three ranges of experience(measurements): physical(voluntary), experiential(involuntary), and imaginary(voluntary). And the actionable universe ends at four dimensions. And the semantic universe is constructed by changes in state within them, given the three ranges of experiences available to us, just as the physical, chemical, biological, and semantic evolve from the underlying forces of the universe.

    We have been trying to deflate our semantics, grammar, and syntax without grasping the rather obvious: that language consist of a fairly exhaustive inventory of thought at any given point in time, consisting of three sets of dimensions, four dimensions of reality, and n-dimensions of experience in an (as yet) endless set of hierarchical permutations. We must use language with some dependence upon logic or the relatively low bandwidth of serial phonetic communication using referential symbols would be useless.

    So humans are good at scaling logic. The problem we face consists of the conflation of various semantic sets (sets of in-commensurable constant relations), and the ease at which people’s abilities are overloaded by that process, forcing us to return to intuition because of the un-testability of incommensurable suggestions.

    in other words, logic merely amplifies the problem of overloading (which is why formal logic is not used outside of the discipline), and all other disciplines require demanding grammar, just as philosophy DOES NOT (heidegger etc).

    The problem we face is not the study of logic which is a necessary property of comprehension using referents (symbols) but constraining the grammar to complete transactions and the semantics to correspondence with a universal standard, and the only universal standard available to man – is actions.

    Curt Doolittle

    35 minutes ago (edited)

    TRANSACTIONS: (CLOSING SUGGESTION): LOGIC WITHOUT GRAMMAR IDENTICAL TO ADDITION WITHOUT EQUALS SIGN, OR ACCOUNTING WITHOUT BALANCES, OR THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE WITHOUT EQUILIBRATION.

    Now, one last idea for you to mull over: We have been fussing over ‘logic’ for a very long time, and by and large it turns out to have done nothing at all beyond the trivial documentation of the various dimensions of constant relations in our language (nouns and verbs). Like game theory, logic does not scale. Our method of scaling logic has resulted in grammar just as the means of scaling physical interactions results in chemistry.

    The foundations of mathematics consist of a trivial necessity of the consequences of constant relations made possible to measure by use of positional names. The foundations of Language (a sequence of transactions describing change in state of relations using semantics(referents), grammar/rules, syntax) consist of three ranges of experience(measurements): physical(voluntary), experiential(involuntary), and imaginary(voluntary). And the actionable universe ends at four dimensions. And the semantic universe is constructed by changes in state within them, given the three ranges of experiences available to us, just as the physical, chemical, biological, and semantic evolve from the underlying forces of the universe.

    We have been trying to deflate our semantics, grammar, and syntax without grasping the rather obvious: that language consist of a fairly exhaustive inventory of thought at any given point in time, consisting of three sets of dimensions, four dimensions of reality, and n-dimensions of experience in an (as yet) endless set of hierarchical permutations. We must use language with some dependence upon logic or the relatively low bandwidth of serial phonetic communication using referential symbols would be useless.

    So humans are good at scaling logic. The problem we face consists of the conflation of various semantic sets (sets of in-commensurable constant relations), and the ease at which people’s abilities are overloaded by that process, forcing us to return to intuition because of the un-testability of incommensurable suggestions.

    in other words, logic merely amplifies the problem of overloading (which is why formal logic is not used outside of the discipline), and all other disciplines require demanding grammar, just as philosophy DOES NOT (heidegger etc).

    The problem we face is not the study of logic which is a necessary property of comprehension using referents (symbols) but constraining the grammar to complete transactions and the semantics to correspondence with a universal standard, and the only universal standard available to man – is actions.

    NOW, IN THIS CONTEXT, IN RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION.

    Does any ideal exist? No.

    Identity requires a contract for constant relations.

    The question is, who is that contract with? And what are the terms?

    Because while a positional name cannot vary except in scale and referent, nearly all other names refer to some contractual necessity, norm, or habit.

    Can I use a better name than another to refer to the same entity under the same terms? Of course.

    The most parsimonious operational description possible constitutes the least erroneous name. Unfortunately, the terms of semantic contract vary substantially over time.

    Yet if all are expressed in a universally commensurable language of operational descriptions, then it is very difficult for the contractual terms of that contract to vary over time.

    Attempts to conflate the identity of positional names of scale independence with contractual references is rather foolish when we give it even the most tepid bit of thought.

    Either we speak in measurements of we speak in fantasies, and the most important question is not whether we speak the optimum: the most parsimonious description possible at the current level of understanding (truth), but whether we testify falsely as to the state of our knowledge.

    Curt Doolittle

    The Propertarian Institute

    Kiev, Ukraine


    Source date (UTC): 2017-11-18 14:38:00 UTC

  • French Quiche, Pastry, Cheese and egg. German Strudel. Pastry, no (or little) ch

    French Quiche, Pastry, Cheese and egg.

    German Strudel. Pastry, no (or little) cheese, no egg.

    Italian Calzone, Pastry, Cheese, no egg.

    English ‘Pie’. Pastry, no (or little) cheese, no (or little) egg.

    American Sandwich. Bread, cheese, no egg.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-11-18 10:25:00 UTC

  • Q&A: “SHOULD WAR BE CONDUCTED MORALLY?” Simon asks two questions, and offers his

    Q&A: “SHOULD WAR BE CONDUCTED MORALLY?”

    Simon asks two questions, and offers his analysis. I offer mine, with a very different answer. Cooperation is only valuable if it advances ones line, kin, and people.

    —“1) Should warfare be conducted morally or is that an oxymoron?

    In my opinion, the answer is yes, it should – and no, it is not an oxymoron. Because morality exists only in reciprocity, and warfare is in fact the ultimate instrument of reciprocity.

    2) Should we follow internationally agreed upon regulations of warfare?

    Yes, until we don’t, which is at a point when signaling adherence to convention in order to maintain a reputation for maximizing future cooperative exchange is more costly, or too great of a discount granted, than the infamy incurred from shoving the charter up the enemy’s rear entry while appropriating his wealth using any imaginable means.

    A well calibrated algorithm of foreign policy will not abuse that course of action, but it will make prudent use of it, and without mercy.”— Simon

    ———-

    Simon,

    Violence is a resource that can be put to good (reciprocity) or ill (irreciprocity). From the entire spectrum of creation of reciprocity, restoration of reciprocity, or exhaustion of reciprocity, or conquest, or extermination.

    Reciprocity purchases future cooperation which is, in general, the means of advancing your line, kin, and people.

    However there are many conditions under which the purchase of cooperation is against the interests of your line, kin, and people.

    a) When cooperation is impossible due to extreme differences in ability, intention, or interest.

    b) Or when when the effects of long term cooperation are detrimental.

    c) Or when the returns on conquest or extermination are higher than the returns on cooperation.

    Now, the central issue is that once beyond the value of agrarian slavery, returns on conquest and extermination are ALWAYS higher than the returns on cooperation, it is just that given marginal differences its often unaffordable to do so. And that is our current situation.

    If conquest and extermination are not possible, then cooperation is preferable. If cooperation is not possible, or too costly, then resistance and boycott, and threat are preferable.

    But war, conquest, extermination are always more profitable than cooperation. As long as one does not build institutions that require continuous profiting from conquest and extermination. Or as long as one retains enough free capital from one’s expansion to organize a productive rather than predatory economy once efforts are completed. Because eventually one does run out of prey.

    However, if one succeeds in predation, at sufficient scale, then the people have no need or interest in the predatory order of economy and polity.

    As such there are two forces at work: either the underclass (abrahamic) warfare or the upper class (aristocratic) warfare that seeks genetic peerages.

    We have seen what happens in the underclass models and seen what happens in the aristocratic models. And the underclass model is merely devolutionary, while the aristocratic model is evolutionary – in fact, that is precisely what defines feminine, underclass, communal, equalitarian, and masculine upperclass, kinship, egalitarian.

    Christianity has been a cancer. The Romans were (as are we today) too greedy for consumption, and were the victims of dilution, and conquest by islam.

    Curt Doolittle

    The Propertarian Institute

    Kiev, Ukraine


    Source date (UTC): 2017-11-17 11:29:00 UTC

  • Click for video: photos_and_videos/videos/10000000_148836895867664_3674976831108

    Click for video: photos_and_videos/videos/10000000_148836895867664_3674976831108284416_n_10155887857227264.mp4 Group: Meta /// ChanCurt DoolittleSorry all. RestartingNov 16, 2017 4:42pmGroup: Meta /// ChanOliver Westcottconnection broke at exactly the time bitcoin broke a new high lolNov 16, 2017 4:42pmGroup: Meta /// ChanDavid StennettIf you are familiar with meta programming languages, you’ll see that while you can create a very unique and open language, it still requires a prime mover to create certain patterns — most AI is pattern based, and will only go so far as the patterns included. However, AI is awesome is going to get smarter than most drooling hairless bi-peds drooling over TV shows.Nov 16, 2017 4:44pmGroup: Meta /// ChanDavid StennettWhat is the business objective of AI … to reduce workforce? Or just bragging rights? Or is there some other driving force behind AI? We can obviously follow the obvious conclusion that AI might go “skynet” on us so why would we pursue it? (and I’m listening, answer when you want).Nov 16, 2017 4:50pmGroup: Meta /// ChanEric BumpusCompetition. Interesting.Nov 16, 2017 4:54pmGroup: Meta /// ChanDavid StennettCool, thank you.Nov 16, 2017 4:54pmGroup: Meta /// ChanEric BumpusWhat about game theory and it decides to work together.Nov 16, 2017 4:54pmGroup: Meta /// ChanDavid StennettGood point.Nov 16, 2017 4:56pmGroup: Meta /// ChanArthur RoddamWhats up Curt! Just saying hi brother.Nov 16, 2017 4:57pmGroup: Meta /// ChanEric BumpusIsnt that why they we shut off the other AI bc of secret languages?Nov 16, 2017 4:57pmGroup: Meta /// ChanEric Bumpusfor efficiency.Nov 16, 2017 4:57pmGroup: Meta /// ChanEric BumpusI see makes sense.Nov 16, 2017 4:58pmGroup: Meta /// ChanEric BumpusEnergy consumption?Nov 16, 2017 4:59pmGroup: Meta /// ChanDavid StennettWould cyborg enhancement be more reasonable (and useful) … good old CarWars style?Nov 16, 2017 5:00pmGroup: Meta /// ChanEric BumpusSo are we even close to it being usable in any way then, with hardware limitations?Nov 16, 2017 5:00pmGroup: Meta /// ChanDavid StennettI’m probably 85 so I need help :PNov 16, 2017 5:02pmGroup: Meta /// ChanOliver Westcottliterary or spatial?Nov 16, 2017 5:03pmGroup: Meta /// ChanEric BumpusI think you’re right. Thank you.Nov 16, 2017 5:06pmGroup: Meta /// ChanCurt Doolittletrying to reconnectNov 16, 2017 5:08pmGroup: Meta /// ChanCurt Doolittle@[611676488:2048:David] purpose of AI?

    Here’s a guide http://www.newsweek.com/hedge-fund-numerai-crowdsourced-machine-intelligence-635388Nov 16, 2017 5:10pmGroup: Meta /// ChanEric BumpusIts a mix of Prefrontal cortex and Amygdala thinking.Nov 16, 2017 5:14pmGroup: Meta /// ChanEric BumpusIts goodNov 16, 2017 5:15pmGroup: Meta /// ChanOliver Westcottsound is goodNov 16, 2017 5:16pmGroup: Meta /// ChanSteven KolpekGood evening, gentlemen.Nov 16, 2017 5:18pmGroup: Meta /// ChanOliver Westcotthi curt. love you manNov 16, 2017 5:18pmGroup: Meta /// ChanEric BumpusThank you both for taking the time to speak with us. Its much appreciated!Nov 16, 2017 5:18pmGroup: Meta /// ChanDavid StennettWhat do you think of Shultz’s rabid anti-white leftism? ;-)Nov 16, 2017 5:19pmGroup: Meta /// ChanEric BumpusWhat do you think about CRISPR and Biohacking?Nov 16, 2017 5:20pmGroup: Meta /// ChanEric BumpusDo you think biohacking should be available to the general public?Nov 16, 2017 5:24pmGroup: Meta /// ChanDavid StennettThank you to you both. =bNov 16, 2017 5:25pmGroup: Meta /// ChanBrandon VaughnHave you guys discussed the whole “time isn’t real” issue here? I just got here.Nov 16, 2017 5:25pmGroup: Meta /// ChanOliver Westcottciao lads, have a good evening.Nov 16, 2017 5:37pmGroup: Meta /// ChanAdam Jacob Robert WalkerIt was a bad day for me to almost go over on my data. I missed all of this at the time. 😞Nov 16, 2017 6:23pmGroup: Meta /// ChanTom TomorrowThere is also a video down below (there are two separate videos).Nov 16, 2017 6:28pmGroup: Meta /// ChanAdam Jacob Robert Walker@[605597:2048:Kashif Vikaas] Thank bud.Nov 16, 2017 6:28pmGroup: Meta /// ChanBobby CorneliusOy GoyNov 16, 2017 11:12pmGroup: Meta /// ChanRyan DollOh shit is that Arn Anderson?Nov 17, 2017 2:40pmGroup: Meta /// ChanCurt DoolittleKinfolk. ;)Nov 17, 2017 7:08pm


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