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  • THE G-MUST-RISE AXIS (AND ITS ERROR) by Giego Caleiro So the problem I see in Sl

    THE G-MUST-RISE AXIS (AND ITS ERROR)

    by Giego Caleiro

    So the problem I see in Sloan Wilson and Schmatenberger mostly concerns missing The G Must Rise axis of the discussion. If indeed we are experiencing cognitive decline masked by the Flynn effect and genetic engineering will continue to be prohibitively costly as a large fraction of how new minds are created, and we don’t make an AGI deus ex machina, THEN we must keep the basal genetic and hereditary structure generators that provide us intelligence and safe tech design above some water level. There needs to be at least X people above Y Intelligence for the continual prevention of X-risk and catastrophic risks.

    The G Must Rise people seem to strongly mired into politics, and sometimes I suppose that prevents their memes from becoming widespread among people who want to save the world, EAs etc… the focus on differential reproduction, and keeping intelligence afloat is insufficient if we don’t also consider the risks and damages of loss of autonomy and individual intelligence and offloading that intelligence to higher levels, hive minds etc… Forming superorganisms has trade offs, and isn’t a panacea, as the G must rise people sometimes seem to advocate.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-04 14:59:00 UTC

  • (go for the kiss. lick her nose instead. watch the response. laugh. run away. le

    (go for the kiss. lick her nose instead. watch the response. laugh. run away. let her win whatever happens next.)

    Ex wife: (sarcastically) “breaking those little bonds of trust…one at a time.”


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-04 14:56:00 UTC

  • THREE CUTTING EDGE THINKING CLUSTERS by Giego Caleiro There are three cutting ed

    THREE CUTTING EDGE THINKING CLUSTERS

    by Giego Caleiro

    There are three cutting edge thinking clusters I believe we should unite

    1) The Incentive Tensors:

    Bostrom, Daniel Schmachtenberger (closer to the blade), David Sloan Wilson, Brett Weinstein, Joon Yun, Thiel, Eric Weinstein (trailing).

    Trying to find the basins and attractors that might stabilize future evolution (cultural, technological and memetic) away from Moloch (bad incentive structures), Azhathoth (evolutionary constraints).

    Related keywords: X-risks, Catastrophic Risks, incentive alignment, basins of attraction, exponential tech, differential progress, Singleton, transhumanism, multipolar equelibriae.

    2) The G Must Rise Clan:

    Michael Anthony Woodley of Menia, @Edward Dutton, Curt Doolittlele, Emil O. W. Kirkegaard, Alexander Kruel, etc…

    They caught up with the research on correlations between intelligence and genes to the point where they can use the genome of ancient populations to calculate their G, and the mechanisms that produce intelligence in populations, and see we are falling 1 point per decade and want to make G rise.

    Keywords: Social Epistasis Models, Intelligence decline, Woodley Effect, Anti-Flynn effect, Differential reproduction.

    3) The Individual x Group Differentiators:

    Ellen Clarke, Sloan David Sloan Wilson again, Price equation, Coase’s theory of the firm, Stuart Armstrong Anthropic Decision Theory, Eros Szathmary, Deacon, Tononi

    They try in different disciplines, from economics, to corporations, to biological organisms to artificial agents differentiatiate what is an individual versus what is a group. When do many individuals become a group through loss of autonomy and degeneration for instance, or to what extent is functional identity or similarity sufficient for something to be one versus a member of a group, or a copy etc….

    Keywords: Major Evolutionary Transition, Type 1 Type 2 object (in Clarke’s), Autonomy loss, degeneration, differentiation, autopoiesis, autocatalysis, synergy, merger.

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    The reason I think these people should try to think together and understand each other’s fields is basically that we lack the appropriate tools to steer the future if any foot of this triad is ignored.

    We can only design the right incentive structures and alignment by recognizing the on the ground reality of reproduction, the fall in G in the last century and a half, and the expected continuation of this process in the current biogeographical and mating dynamics – both due to the dynamics themselves but also due to the astronomical and thus prohibitive cost of transition to a system where selection bypasses sex, sexual selection etc… e.g. genetic engineering is a dead end.

    Incentive structures and tensoring them on directions also requires understanding to what extent an agent is one or many, and how hard it will protect or help (Steve Omohundro comes to mind) its own survival and reproduction and what it considers part of itself or a larger group or different entity.

    Uniting these three paradigms was, and is, the bulk of my PhD thesis but seeing the stellar conversation between Schmachtenberger and Eric made me realize we’re probably closer to a point where that debate is legible to a wider audience than 5 years ago when I began writing.

    So I’d urge people who understand one of foot of the triad well to teach their foot to those in the other two, and everyone to try to learn the ones they are less familiar with.

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    In comments I’ll try to outlay examples of the problems of not grasping one foot in those working on a different one.Updated Apr 4, 2020, 2:47 PM


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-04 14:47:00 UTC

  • (Fried Green Tomatoes: Humans, red meat, at least categorically, taste is betwee

    (Fried Green Tomatoes: Humans, red meat, at least categorically, taste is between veal and pork. A body supplies 80k calories, with 20k in just the thighs, and 8k in just the heart. Aliens would probably eat us for the legs alone. Unless prion-carrier, and if well prepared – thoroughly cooked – perfectly fine sustenance. Maybe they’re just waiting for the harvest? 😉 Little old lady inspired question of the day. )


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-04 14:39:00 UTC

  • Small rural New England town. Knock. Answer. Neighbor. Delivering Palms for Palm

    Small rural New England town.

    Knock. Answer. Neighbor. Delivering Palms for Palm Sunday. Hands me one. I realize that the church is closed. He’s part of the board.

    Me: “I almost forgot. We have good Catholics around here.”

    Him: “I’m not so sure about good, but we do have Catholics.”

    Waves. Turns. Moves on. Door closes.

    I put the palm behind the calendar near the door.

    My mother is gleeful. I want to eye roll but I don’t.

    I have to wait for May Day (Beltane) to celebrate the spring.

    And it requires a bonfire. 😉

    And I have ideas for the kindling.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-04 13:56:00 UTC

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status

    Curt Doolittle updated his status.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-04 10:38:00 UTC

  • Updated Apr 4, 2020, 10:38 AM

    Updated Apr 4, 2020, 10:38 AM


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-04 10:38:00 UTC

  • “Third, safeguard the principles of the liberal world order. The founding legend

    —“Third, safeguard the principles of the liberal world order. The founding legend of modern government is a walled city protected by powerful rulers, sometimes despotic, other times benevolent, yet always strong enough to protect the people from an external enemy. Enlightenment thinkers reframed this concept, arguing that the purpose of the legitimate state is to provide for the fundamental needs of the people: security, order, economic well-being, and justice. Individuals cannot secure these things on their own. The pandemic has prompted an anachronism, a revival of the walled city in an age when prosperity depends on global trade and movement of people.”—Kissinger

    NO. The purpose of the legitimate state is (a) to defend the people against the barbarian hordes, (b) defend the future generations against the fashions of the people. (c) increase the intergenerational human cultural civilizational capital. (d) adapt to crisis, peace, and windfalls. (((Cosmopolitianism))) is just barbarism.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-03 20:51:00 UTC

  • GETS ON THE GLOBALIST DEFENSE LAST DITCH EFFORT Apr 3, 2020, 7:50 PM

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-coronavirus-pandemic-will-forever-alter-the-world-order-11585953005KISSINGER GETS ON THE GLOBALIST DEFENSE LAST DITCH EFFORT

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-coronavirus-pandemic-will-forever-alter-the-world-order-11585953005Updated Apr 3, 2020, 7:50 PM


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-03 19:50:00 UTC

  • DEGREES OF HOMICIDE VS DEGREES OF LYING (Discussion between Curt and Greg Hamilt

    DEGREES OF HOMICIDE VS DEGREES OF LYING

    (Discussion between Curt and Greg Hamilton)

    Degree of failure of due diligence determines severity.

    Example:

    … Murder > Homicide > ???

    … Lying > Deceiving > ???

    We don’t have via negativa terms for crimes, but P-law is a via negativa logic.

    So, in P, we call a failure of due diligence “Lying”, because we can’t determine intentions only whether you in fact did the due diligence, and whether you stated a falsehood, or irreciprocity.

    Lying by intent and Lying by failures of due diligence.

    This definition mirrors “Truth”:

    Truth means satisfying the demand for infallibility.

    We satisfy the demand for infallibility by due diligence.

    So, is it correct to use Falsehood(error) or Lying(failure of due diligence)? Well, how do we know the difference? 😉

    DEGREES OF HOMICIDE

    Murder first and second

    -vs-

    Voluntary, Constructive, and Involuntary manslaughter

    -vs-

    Negligent Homicide (esp. vehicular)

    -vs-

    Excusable Homicide: by accident and misfortune, or in doing any other lawful act by lawful means, with usual and ordinary caution, and without any unlawful intent.”

    -vs-

    Justifiable Homicide (self or other defense)

    -vs-

    State Licensed Homicide (military, law enforcement)

    The key phrase being “with usual and ordinary caution”

    Again, I am (we are) stating that in public, to public, in matters public, one must use ordinary caution. We are are increasing the requirements for ordinary caution.

    We are increasing the burden on public speech such that by failure of due diligence you do not guard against the spreading of falsehood (lying) because we cannot judge your intent, we can only determine whether or not you enaged in due diligence.

    It works just fine. We do it every day in courts around the globe.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-03 17:16:00 UTC