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  • MY TAKEAWAY IS THAT THE LOSS OF THE HRAPPAN CIVILIZATION WAS EQUIVALENT IN DAMAG

    MY TAKEAWAY IS THAT THE LOSS OF THE HRAPPAN CIVILIZATION WAS EQUIVALENT IN DAMAGE TO THE MUSLIM CONQUEST.

    (China was wise to build her walls. We must imitate her leadership.)

    J R Updated Feb 4

    The first peoples in India were Austro-Asiatics who arrived 50,000 years ago. Their journey started in East Africa in what is Ethiopia.

    These are the same peoples living in the Andaman Islands, Papua New Guinea, and the Australian Aborigines.

    These peoples were able to use canoes and fishing to navigate the coastal waters and settled along islands from India to Australia – and their populations can be found along those islands today.

    Proto-Dravidians developed in India over about tens of thousands of years through the admixture of Austro-Asiatic, Indo-European, and Tibeto-Burmese DNA.

    They became an advanced urbane civilization based on agriculture and maritime trade, which was the largest by both land area, economy, and population in the ancient world.

    They formed the Indus Valley Civilization and later migrated to South India, and also South-East Asia.

    During this time, India continued to experience immigration from outside lands, and analysis of the Mehargh population shows that the from 7000 BCE to 2500 BCE the population had changed.

    As the Indus Valley were expert sea farers, and the early Austro-Asiatics were sea farers, my postulatation is that the proto-Dravidians had originated from the Austro-Asiatics.

    The Vedic Aryans on the other hand were land based, using the horse and chariot, metal working, and cattle husbandry. They originated from the central Eurasian steppe and came by way of Afghanistan to India.

    Even earlier then them, it is believed there was a migration Westward to Europe of the proto-Indo-Europeans, and the Vedics share many similarities linguistically, culturally, and religiously with Slavs, Celts, Greeks, and other early European peoples. This includes clans led by chiefs and priests/druids, soma and potions, nature worship, as well as common root words.

    Along the way, they left some of their cousins in Afghanistan. These cousins would become the Zorastrians, moved to Iran and formed the Persian Empire.

    The Zorastrians are more recently related to the Vedics and have even more commonalities like ritual fire, which Vedics called Yagna and Zorastrians called Yazna. Soma which the Zorastrians called Haoma, etc.

    However, the Zorastrians adopted a dualistic monotheism and discarded nature worship. They also added many ideas of their own innovation that are believed to have been borrowed by or influenced the Abrahamic religions including resurrection, good and evil, Satan, and armageddon – these concepts don’t exist in the Eastern religions.

    The Vedics kept everything of their past and added to it, eventually adding dualism, non-dualism, and qualified non-dualism into what would become the philosophy of Yoga.

    This philosophy of Yoga is believed to take its roots from the ancient Dravidian religion but developed further until it was distilled into a goal of immortality through Self realization which was to realize through union of absorption (Yoga) that the Universe comprised of two principles, a male principle, the transcendent formless God which was pure mind, pure existence, and pure bliss (sat chit ananda), and shakti or energy the female principle which through Maya or the capacity for dimensionality formed the entire Universe and gave birth to time and causality (karma). Through this realization, the small soul (jiva), can realize its identity with an absolute existence that is outside of time and therefore not subject to impermanence or decay, and through the purification of desires in the heart escapes the cycle of birth and death. Although the soul is immortal, due to it’s ignorance (avidya), at death its desires will lead it to take birth again and again, in various lokas (planes of existence), as per its deeds and merits which form the basis of future thoughts and actions (also karma).

    Free will exists but is not fully exercised because the soul is not entirely free from its causal nature.

    Therefore all beings take birth as a result of desire, except the perfected beings or divine incarnations (Avatars), which take birth with full knowledge of their divine nature for a higher purpose.

    This in a nutshell was the culmination of the Vedic philosophy that occurred by around 700 BCE.

    The Rig Veda’s later books start to delve into this area, but the earlier books are properly in the realm of nature worship.

    The Rig Veda makes few references to sea faring, but regularly refers to chariots, cattle, horses, and metal work.

    The frequency of their vocabulary references tells us their cultural milieu. They were aware of the ocean and the ships, but it was not an integral part of their daily life.

    However, sea faring was an integral part of the Dravidian way of life, and this is also why we suspect they are the original founders of the Indus Valley Civilization – which relied extensively on sea trading with Mesopotamia.

    Today studies have show that Indians, even isolated tribal populations, have a mix of DNAs from every part of the world notably Austro-Asiatic, Indo-European, and Mongoliod with a spectrum of variations between regional populations.

    The chronology seems to indicate that the mature civilization of Indus Valley was weakened by weather changes, especially drought and the decline of major rivers that were glacier fed. These glaciers formed in the last ice age that ended around 10,000 BCE and held in the Himalayas vast stores of water. As they retreated, they fed glacial streams and rivers, which gave steady supply of drinking quality water to the Indus river basin, that was further enriched by the monsoon rains.

    The Himalayas are huge and glaciers appear to have provided water for several thousand years but eventually the rivers start to dry up, and the entire way of life that depends on them is now facing uncertainty with droughts becoming common and many cities being abandoned. Some key cities remain but only a fraction of what existed before.

    At this time, the nomadic Vedics arrive and are attracted by wealth of the Indus cities and appear to be in a conflict.

    The Vedics have the advantage of the horse and the archer. The Indus Valley had no horses but they may have had the ass or donkey. The horse does not appear in any seal – although there is one disputed seal that could be a small horse.

    The Vedic hymns describe chargers, coursers, steeds very frequently – large, fast and powerful horses. If Indus Valley was the same as the Rig Vedics, they would have had many artifacts of horses. Whereas many animals are found, horse is notably absent.

    The horse is originally from the central Eurasian steppe, so it would make sense that the people coming from that area have the horse before anyone else.

    After taking over these cities, the Vedics seem to realize that the Indus Valley was very advanced, and have soon adopted their ideas and philosophy.

    By the time, we get into the late Rig Veda, they are no longer roving barbarians seeking spoils and treasure, but have mellowed out quite a bit.

    They have now adopted and integrated with the Indus religion and culture. Also, they may have taken Dravidian wives. The later Rig Veda starts to show the pre-cursors of Upanishadic thinking.

    The creation hymn Nasadiya Sukta – considered to be one of the newest hymns – is a completely different form of thinking than the incantations of the early Vedic hymns.

    This is so different that we have to suspect these ideas are coming from the proto-Dravidian religion and have developed further similar to the Hellenistic syncretism that occurs 500 years later.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-09-22 12:49:00 UTC

  • THERE ARE NO CAUCASIANS REMAINING IN INDIA? —“India has been underrepresented

    THERE ARE NO CAUCASIANS REMAINING IN INDIA?

    —“India has been underrepresented in genome-wide surveys of human variation. We analyze 25 diverse groups to provide strong evidence for two ancient populations, genetically divergent, that are ancestral to most Indians today. One, the “Ancestral North Indians” (ANI), is genetically close to Middle Easterners, Central Asians, and Europeans, while the other, the “Ancestral South Indians” (ASI), is as distinct from ANI and East Asians as they are from each other. By introducing methods that can estimate ancestry without accurate ancestral populations, we show that ANI ancestry ranges from 39-71% in India, and is higher in traditionally upper caste and Indo-European speakers. Groups with only ASI ancestry may no longer exist in mainland India. However, the Andamanese are an ASI-related group without ANI ancestry, showing that the peopling of the islands must have occurred before ANI-ASI gene flow on the mainland. Allele frequency differences between groups in India are larger than in Europe, reflecting strong founder effects whose signatures have been maintained for thousands of years due to endogamy. We therefore predict that there will be an excess of recessive diseases in India, different in each group, which should be possible to screen and map genetically.”—


    Source date (UTC): 2018-09-22 12:46:00 UTC

  • Globalism is just spreading the resource curse everywhere. 😉

    Globalism is just spreading the resource curse everywhere. 😉


    Source date (UTC): 2018-09-22 12:34:00 UTC

  • (humor. sorta’.) —“Basically, I consider liberal deniers of truth to be like r

    (humor. sorta’.)

    —“Basically, I consider liberal deniers of truth to be like retarded people—and as such, they should be treated as such, and although they should be allowed to live, they get no opinions on anything of import AND shouldn’t have any rights to anything determinative.”— Michael Val Hietter


    Source date (UTC): 2018-09-22 12:29:00 UTC

  • ON THE DEATH PENALTY Reposted by @[100015734649811:2048:Ryan Williams] —“The p

    ON THE DEATH PENALTY

    Reposted by @[100015734649811:2048:Ryan Williams]

    —“The problem with the modern state is not that it uses the death penalty so much, but rather that it uses it far too little. Property in toto serves as a useful metric for what crimes merit the death penalty. if you use fraud, deceit, or some other non reciprocal criminal means of enriching yourself at the expense of the commons above some arbitrary number, say 5x the average lifetime taxes paid by an average taxpayer, you should face execution.

    Under such a scheme, nearly every tech monopolist, the Walton family, Bezos, any of the financial elite, nearly every politician and most high ranking bureaucrats would be liable for death. NYT editors lie in the newspapers and it costs 5x the taxes paid of average worker? Boom. no more problem with lying editors at the NYT.

    The whole West faces the double problem of a violent, dependent underclass and a parasitical, exploitative oligarchy controlling business and politics. Such measures might seem unduly harsh, but they are necessary. Brazil shows why they must be implemented, Singapore shows that they work.”—-


    Source date (UTC): 2018-09-22 12:19:00 UTC

  • All three species of homo (mongoloid, negroid, and caucasoid) were incredibly su

    All three species of homo (mongoloid, negroid, and caucasoid) were incredibly successful. The Dravidians and Australoids were successful but not competitive. And it certainly appears that the Australoids and their relations nearby actually devolved for some reason – perhaps lack of competition.

    The steppe and desert have been increasing aggression for thousands of years, and pushing evolution outward from the world center of trade (intersection of trade routes).

    My argument suggests, that humans have INCREASED in aggression and theft by VIOLENCE has only been SUBSTITUTED by theft by indirection (externality).

    And humans are now competing by externality.

    And that pro-social behavior is a cover for competition by externality.

    ie: A mask.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-09-22 11:23:00 UTC

  • photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/42266850_10156654890892264_584031729

    photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/42266850_10156654890892264_5840317299562643456_n_10156654890887264.jpg Jonathan WilburOne thing that makes me really mad about the politicization of racial science (inb4 race is innately political; you know what I mean) is the lack of scientific and precise racial cladistics. Particularly for the purposes of modeling people in databases or software, the only formalized racial cladistics to which I have access is the census bureau’s broad and specious seven categories, which absurdly clusters Southern Asian and Northern Asian, for instance, which we know from pedestrian observation are categorically different.Sep 22, 2018, 11:51 AMJonathan WilburSo I love stuff like this. I wish we had a formally defined taxonomic hierarchy of races.Sep 22, 2018, 11:51 AMDon LemonatiI bet there are parts of India with less Dravidians than Canada and BritainSep 22, 2018, 12:05 PMJoe Boyumleave no street left behindSep 22, 2018, 12:07 PMCurt Doolittlewe do. it’s on my site. I maintain it.Sep 22, 2018, 12:20 PMCurt DoolittleThe principle issue is that India is a race-in-the-making but it won’t get made in modernity.Sep 22, 2018, 12:22 PMThiago Modelborn Pereira-BerthoVeddoidSep 22, 2018, 12:25 PMVincent PicciottiMy heavily Jewish grandmother traveled the entire country throughout a month

    She said it was amazing how much the India on the border with west Pakistan was grateful of the British rule to remove the Arabs

    Many will still adhere to British customs and style and traditionsSep 22, 2018, 12:26 PMVincent PicciottiMakes me think of I believe the Bantu tribe of South Africa who liked apartheid do to their separation from the ZuluSep 22, 2018, 12:28 PMAdam J. Meekthe castes function as mini races. India is a forge for many breeds of men.Sep 22, 2018, 12:31 PMErnest HeideggerRegress this map with per capita GDP pls.

    Caucasoid supremacy rears its ugly head!Sep 22, 2018, 12:31 PMSteven GantI need proof.Sep 22, 2018, 12:32 PMSteven Ganthttps://www.quora.com/Which-is-the-most-prosperous-and-most-backward-area-in-IndiaSep 22, 2018, 12:36 PMErnest Heidegger”Most prosperous” and “most backwards” are misleading. Regressing it across the board paints a better picture overall.Sep 22, 2018, 12:37 PMArno KælandVincent Picciotti Bantu is not a tribe but an ethnicity (or linguistic group). The Zulu, for example, are Bantus.Sep 22, 2018, 12:41 PMErnest HeideggerHigher caste are higher income. Higher caste also tend to be lighter complected.

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Skin-colour-tied-to-caste-system-says-study/articleshow/55532665.cmsSep 22, 2018, 12:42 PMErnest Heideggerhttps://theconversation.com/bleached-girls-india-and-its-love-for-light-skin-80655Sep 22, 2018, 12:42 PMVincent PicciottiAaron Kahland ahhhhh

    Then who is the native group of South Africa

    Because I know the zulus aren’t the original natives

    The Lesotho people are much different and are closer to the minority black group that the zulus mercilessly murdered shortly after the Dutch made settlementSep 22, 2018, 12:45 PMArno KælandVincent Picciotti That’s correct – the Bantus moved into South Africa. The original inhabitants are the San / Khoi peoples – who were replaced by the Bantus in the Eastern half of South Africa. San are not ethnically related to Bantus.Sep 22, 2018, 12:47 PMErnest HeideggerIt’s not just India. In South America and Asia, lighter characteristics are socially desirable, with women in those countries specifically requesting ethnic European sperm from sperm banks, and having plastic surgery to make their facial attributes appear lighter.

    Now the question is: is this psychological undercurrent derived from western marketing, or an innate/evolved understanding of what functions better?

    To be clear, straightening hair and bleaching skin doesn’t make non-European societies function like European societies, because race is more than skin deep, but imitation is the highest form of flattery.Sep 22, 2018, 12:48 PMNick BaileyLet no street be devoid of human shit.Sep 22, 2018, 12:50 PMJoe Boyumhow many H-1B’s in san francisco. seems they bring their culture with themSep 22, 2018, 12:51 PMVincent PicciottiAaron Kahland ahhh see that makes sense

    And apartheid saw them get their own respective sovereign lands correct? I know they are still quite backwards to most of the civilized world but I personall see no issue in that if they have their own space

    But I only find it funny because the zulus want all this power and the white beta cucks just can’t wait to steal land from other whites and give it awaySep 22, 2018, 12:54 PMCurt DoolittleNeoteny is desirable always and everywhereSep 22, 2018, 12:56 PMMatthew MorrisonWould that be your propertarianism site?Sep 22, 2018, 12:56 PMCurt Doolittleyes.

    https://propertarianism.com/2015/07/19/aristocracy-for-everyone-how-many-races-and-tribes/Sep 22, 2018, 1:04 PMMatthew MorrisonthanksSep 22, 2018, 1:06 PMNatasha Mariahas me wanting to play europa universalis again : PSep 22, 2018, 1:44 PMTom JamesLooks like it’s where the 3 races meetSep 22, 2018, 3:07 PMMarcus JamesVincent Picciotti Khoisan are who you’re thinking of.Sep 22, 2018, 4:17 PMVincent PicciottiJames Archer thank you JamesSep 22, 2018, 4:20 PMConnor Whittlawp o o

    o

    oSep 22, 2018, 5:16 PMUjjwal Kumar ChoudharyThat was extremely stereotypical.Sep 22, 2018, 11:28 PMUjjwal Kumar ChoudharyThe progress is real, but anyway, have your fun.Sep 22, 2018, 11:30 PMUjjwal Kumar ChoudharyThere is no truth in this map, Mr. Curt.Sep 22, 2018, 11:32 PMCurt DoolittleThat is not an argument. ;)Sep 23, 2018, 5:57 AMUjjwal Kumar ChoudharySo you mean to say that, I am a caucasoid? XDSep 23, 2018, 6:05 AMEric GroseJiggs Chasmawala your thoughts?Sep 23, 2018, 6:10 AMJiggs ChasmawalaDravidians aren’t a separate race. This is more of a linguistic map. But even the dravidian languages share about 80% of their vocabulary with the northern languages.Sep 23, 2018, 6:11 AMJiggs ChasmawalaA separate Dravidian race is a British invention to play divide & rule.Sep 23, 2018, 6:14 AMEric GroseJiggs Chasmawala perfidious AlbionSep 23, 2018, 6:16 AMJiggs ChasmawalaI’d say abominable.Sep 23, 2018, 6:17 AMJiggs ChasmawalaCurt Doolittle About the myth of a separate dravidian race. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/rajiv-malhotra/how-evangelists-are-inven_b_841606.htmlSep 23, 2018, 6:24 AMPepe Le PewLOL East Asians and Asians in thee US form the richest salaried employees.

    They’re so good that white people start talking about unfairness :pSep 23, 2018, 7:03 AMJoe BoyumVivek Na incredible what they can do when they live in a white country run by whites. wonder what india would look like under such circumstances?Sep 23, 2018, 8:00 AMPepe Le PewI frankly feel that the intellectual people of India are far better letting caucasians manage stuff – especially since western capitalism and consumerism is the way the world works

    We come from a history of scarcity, adjustment and a knowledge based culture – Leadership, planning etc seem to be not quite the forte of the indian psyche.Sep 23, 2018, 8:04 AMEric GroseCurt Doolittle India is the country of the future, and always will be.Sep 23, 2018, 8:53 AMScott Throne”huffpo”Sep 23, 2018, 10:27 PMHuy-Anh LêDon’t forget the Australoid natives in the middle of the country, and of course scattered in the Andaman Islands.Oct 8, 2018, 7:57 PMCurt DoolittleWell, the australoids passed through India, and mixed with denisovians, so there should be remnants in India, and those rare island people are of course also remnants.

    At present I think there is a lot of debate over dravidian orgins as ancestral Indians, and elamites, and hrpappans. And I am not yet knowledgeable enough to make an argument one way or the other. Although some others who follow me are. I had thought that Dravidians like Australoids were artifacts of the Ethiopian Departure 70K years ago. the the competing arguments are just as confusing.Oct 8, 2018, 9:40 PMSasha ShepherdThis would imply that Pakistan is almost entirely Caucasian?Oct 9, 2018, 2:15 AMSasha ShepherdThe designation ‘Caucasian’ is actually quite broad.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Carleton_Coon_races_after_Pleistocene.PNGOct 9, 2018, 2:16 AMArno KælandNot really because Pakistani isn’t an ethnicity. After Indian indpendence in 1948 there was a massive population transfer between newly created India and Pakistan based on religious affiliation. Hindus were supposed to go South, Muslims North. Pakistan is thus very heterogenous.Oct 9, 2018, 10:02 AMCurt Doolittle^YepOct 9, 2018, 11:02 AMTaylor SpoonerWhat’s your reasoning for the stark difference in phenotypes?Oct 9, 2018, 4:22 PMJiggs Chasmawaladifferent climates in the subcontinentOct 9, 2018, 4:23 PMMichael ChurchillMany Pakistanis have very large heads and look extremely intelligent. I went to Lahore and Karachi within the last five years. They are extremely INTENSE places. I ended up investing in Pakistan for a number of years because it looked to me that they would figure out their problems. Still seems that way to me. Basically they are building new cities on the outskirts of their existing cities.Oct 9, 2018, 11:07 PMMichael ChurchillWhat do you think of the theory that the high caste of India was actually a function of westerners settling there, and that the Upanishads are really western mystical thought. Sanskrit was sort of a western-created language for elites only. Does this hold water?Oct 9, 2018, 11:08 PMArno KælandMichael Churchill average IQ of Pakistan is 84 – which is no different from India and extremely low.Oct 10, 2018, 6:22 AMJayant BhandariIndia is the most complex experiment about multi-ethnic, tribal society. Nothing works. No decisions get taken. No discussion takes place.Oct 10, 2018, 10:32 AMJayant BhandariIt is hard to believe that this was’t the case. It might not have been western people, but a bunch of people who came to India around 2,500 years back were unique people, very smart. My guess is that the caste system was created to ensure that the genes didn’t get diluted.Oct 10, 2018, 10:37 AMMichael ChurchillInteresting … thanks. Michael Tsarion writes about this theory a lot and I have heard it elsewhere as well. But I have no idea if it is true.Oct 10, 2018, 10:42 AMCurt DoolittleAFAIK, the ANI’s were defeated by the IE’s, and imposed the caste system. This looks like the genetic record as well.Oct 10, 2018, 1:46 PMCurt DoolittleOver time IE-ANI, interbred with ASI (Dravidians), producing the three indias: north, mixed, south.Oct 10, 2018, 1:46 PMJanderson RexJayant Bhandari The genetic data really supports this.

    Suggest reading David Reich’s Who We Are and How We Got Here.

    Essentially the Indians have lived side by side for thousands of years and done very very little inbreeding. It’s remarkableOct 11, 2018, 1:34 PMJanderson RexKarlin’s article on India is great

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/the-puzzle-of-indian-iq-a-country-of-gypsies-and-jews/Oct 11, 2018, 1:34 PM


    Source date (UTC): 2018-09-22 11:17:00 UTC

  • photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/42266850_10156654890892264_584031729

    photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/42266850_10156654890892264_5840317299562643456_n_10156654890887264.jpg Jonathan WilburOne thing that makes me really mad about the politicization of racial science (inb4 race is innately political; you know what I mean) is the lack of scientific and precise racial cladistics. Particularly for the purposes of modeling people in databases or software, the only formalized racial cladistics to which I have access is the census bureau’s broad and specious seven categories, which absurdly clusters Southern Asian and Northern Asian, for instance, which we know from pedestrian observation are categorically different.Sep 22, 2018, 11:51 AMJonathan WilburSo I love stuff like this. I wish we had a formally defined taxonomic hierarchy of races.Sep 22, 2018, 11:51 AMDon LemonatiI bet there are parts of India with less Dravidians than Canada and BritainSep 22, 2018, 12:05 PMJoe Boyumleave no street left behindSep 22, 2018, 12:07 PMCurt Doolittlewe do. it’s on my site. I maintain it.Sep 22, 2018, 12:20 PMCurt DoolittleThe principle issue is that India is a race-in-the-making but it won’t get made in modernity.Sep 22, 2018, 12:22 PMThiago Modelborn Pereira-BerthoVeddoidSep 22, 2018, 12:25 PMVincent PicciottiMy heavily Jewish grandmother traveled the entire country throughout a month

    She said it was amazing how much the India on the border with west Pakistan was grateful of the British rule to remove the Arabs

    Many will still adhere to British customs and style and traditionsSep 22, 2018, 12:26 PMVincent PicciottiMakes me think of I believe the Bantu tribe of South Africa who liked apartheid do to their separation from the ZuluSep 22, 2018, 12:28 PMAdam J. Meekthe castes function as mini races. India is a forge for many breeds of men.Sep 22, 2018, 12:31 PMErnest HeideggerRegress this map with per capita GDP pls.

    Caucasoid supremacy rears its ugly head!Sep 22, 2018, 12:31 PMSteven GantI need proof.Sep 22, 2018, 12:32 PMSteven Ganthttps://www.quora.com/Which-is-the-most-prosperous-and-most-backward-area-in-IndiaSep 22, 2018, 12:36 PMErnest Heidegger”Most prosperous” and “most backwards” are misleading. Regressing it across the board paints a better picture overall.Sep 22, 2018, 12:37 PMAaron KahlandVincent Picciotti Bantu is not a tribe but an ethnicity (or linguistic group). The Zulu, for example, are Bantus.Sep 22, 2018, 12:41 PMErnest HeideggerHigher caste are higher income. Higher caste also tend to be lighter complected.

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Skin-colour-tied-to-caste-system-says-study/articleshow/55532665.cmsSep 22, 2018, 12:42 PMErnest Heideggerhttps://theconversation.com/bleached-girls-india-and-its-love-for-light-skin-80655Sep 22, 2018, 12:42 PMVincent PicciottiAaron Kahland ahhhhh

    Then who is the native group of South Africa

    Because I know the zulus aren’t the original natives

    The Lesotho people are much different and are closer to the minority black group that the zulus mercilessly murdered shortly after the Dutch made settlementSep 22, 2018, 12:45 PMAaron KahlandVincent Picciotti That’s correct – the Bantus moved into South Africa. The original inhabitants are the San / Khoi peoples – who were replaced by the Bantus in the Eastern half of South Africa. San are not ethnically related to Bantus.Sep 22, 2018, 12:47 PMErnest HeideggerIt’s not just India. In South America and Asia, lighter characteristics are socially desirable, with women in those countries specifically requesting ethnic European sperm from sperm banks, and having plastic surgery to make their facial attributes appear lighter.

    Now the question is: is this psychological undercurrent derived from western marketing, or an innate/evolved understanding of what functions better?

    To be clear, straightening hair and bleaching skin doesn’t make non-European societies function like European societies, because race is more than skin deep, but imitation is the highest form of flattery.Sep 22, 2018, 12:48 PMNick BaileyLet no street be devoid of human shit.Sep 22, 2018, 12:50 PMJoe Boyumhow many H-1B’s in san francisco. seems they bring their culture with themSep 22, 2018, 12:51 PMVincent PicciottiAaron Kahland ahhh see that makes sense

    And apartheid saw them get their own respective sovereign lands correct? I know they are still quite backwards to most of the civilized world but I personall see no issue in that if they have their own space

    But I only find it funny because the zulus want all this power and the white beta cucks just can’t wait to steal land from other whites and give it awaySep 22, 2018, 12:54 PMCurt DoolittleNeoteny is desirable always and everywhereSep 22, 2018, 12:56 PMMatthew MorrisonWould that be your propertarianism site?Sep 22, 2018, 12:56 PMCurt Doolittleyes.

    https://propertarianism.com/2015/07/19/aristocracy-for-everyone-how-many-races-and-tribes/Sep 22, 2018, 1:04 PMMatthew MorrisonthanksSep 22, 2018, 1:06 PMTom JamesLooks like it’s where the 3 races meetSep 22, 2018, 3:07 PMMarcus JamesVincent Picciotti Khoisan are who you’re thinking of.Sep 22, 2018, 4:17 PMVincent PicciottiJames Archer thank you JamesSep 22, 2018, 4:20 PMConnor Whittlep o o

    o

    oSep 22, 2018, 5:16 PMUjjwal Kumar ChoudharyThat was extremely stereotypical.Sep 22, 2018, 11:28 PMUjjwal Kumar ChoudharyThe progress is real, but anyway, have your fun.Sep 22, 2018, 11:30 PMUjjwal Kumar ChoudharyThere is no truth in this map, Mr. Curt.Sep 22, 2018, 11:32 PMCurt DoolittleThat is not an argument. ;)Sep 23, 2018, 5:57 AMUjjwal Kumar ChoudharySo you mean to say that, I am a caucasoid? XDSep 23, 2018, 6:05 AMEric GroseJiggs Chasmawala your thoughts?Sep 23, 2018, 6:10 AMJiggs ChasmawalaDravidians aren’t a separate race. This is more of a linguistic map. But even the dravidian languages share about 80% of their vocabulary with the northern languages.Sep 23, 2018, 6:11 AMJiggs ChasmawalaA separate Dravidian race is a British invention to play divide & rule.Sep 23, 2018, 6:14 AMEric GroseJiggs Chasmawala perfidious AlbionSep 23, 2018, 6:16 AMJiggs ChasmawalaI’d say abominable.Sep 23, 2018, 6:17 AMJiggs ChasmawalaCurt Doolittle About the myth of a separate dravidian race. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/rajiv-malhotra/how-evangelists-are-inven_b_841606.htmlSep 23, 2018, 6:24 AMJohn RamboLOL East Asians and Asians in thee US form the richest salaried employees.

    They’re so good that white people start talking about unfairness :pSep 23, 2018, 7:03 AMJoe BoyumVivek Na incredible what they can do when they live in a white country run by whites. wonder what india would look like under such circumstances?Sep 23, 2018, 8:00 AMJohn RamboI frankly feel that the intellectual people of India are far better letting caucasians manage stuff – especially since western capitalism and consumerism is the way the world works

    We come from a history of scarcity, adjustment and a knowledge based culture – Leadership, planning etc seem to be not quite the forte of the indian psyche.Sep 23, 2018, 8:04 AMEric GroseCurt Doolittle India is the country of the future, and always will be.Sep 23, 2018, 8:53 AMScott Throne”huffpo”Sep 23, 2018, 10:27 PMHuy-Anh LêDon’t forget the Australoid natives in the middle of the country, and of course scattered in the Andaman Islands.Oct 8, 2018, 7:57 PMCurt DoolittleWell, the australoids passed through India, and mixed with denisovians, so there should be remnants in India, and those rare island people are of course also remnants.

    At present I think there is a lot of debate over dravidian orgins as ancestral Indians, and elamites, and hrpappans. And I am not yet knowledgeable enough to make an argument one way or the other. Although some others who follow me are. I had thought that Dravidians like Australoids were artifacts of the Ethiopian Departure 70K years ago. the the competing arguments are just as confusing.Oct 8, 2018, 9:40 PMSasha ShepherdThis would imply that Pakistan is almost entirely Caucasian?Oct 9, 2018, 2:15 AMSasha ShepherdThe designation ‘Caucasian’ is actually quite broad.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Carleton_Coon_races_after_Pleistocene.PNGOct 9, 2018, 2:16 AMAaron KahlandNot really because Pakistani isn’t an ethnicity. After Indian indpendence in 1948 there was a massive population transfer between newly created India and Pakistan based on religious affiliation. Hindus were supposed to go South, Muslims North. Pakistan is thus very heterogenous.Oct 9, 2018, 10:02 AMCurt Doolittle^YepOct 9, 2018, 11:02 AMTaylor SpoonerWhat’s your reasoning for the stark difference in phenotypes?Oct 9, 2018, 4:22 PMJiggs Chasmawaladifferent climates in the subcontinentOct 9, 2018, 4:23 PMMichael ChurchillMany Pakistanis have very large heads and look extremely intelligent. I went to Lahore and Karachi within the last five years. They are extremely INTENSE places. I ended up investing in Pakistan for a number of years because it looked to me that they would figure out their problems. Still seems that way to me. Basically they are building new cities on the outskirts of their existing cities.Oct 9, 2018, 11:07 PMMichael ChurchillWhat do you think of the theory that the high caste of India was actually a function of westerners settling there, and that the Upanishads are really western mystical thought. Sanskrit was sort of a western-created language for elites only. Does this hold water?Oct 9, 2018, 11:08 PMAaron KahlandMichael Churchill average IQ of Pakistan is 84 – which is no different from India and extremely low.Oct 10, 2018, 6:22 AMJayant BhandariIndia is the most complex experiment about multi-ethnic, tribal society. Nothing works. No decisions get taken. No discussion takes place.Oct 10, 2018, 10:32 AMJayant BhandariIt is hard to believe that this was’t the case. It might not have been western people, but a bunch of people who came to India around 2,500 years back were unique people, very smart. My guess is that the caste system was created to ensure that the genes didn’t get diluted.Oct 10, 2018, 10:37 AMMichael ChurchillInteresting … thanks. Michael Tsarion writes about this theory a lot and I have heard it elsewhere as well. But I have no idea if it is true.Oct 10, 2018, 10:42 AMCurt DoolittleAFAIK, the ANI’s were defeated by the IE’s, and imposed the caste system. This looks like the genetic record as well.Oct 10, 2018, 1:46 PMCurt DoolittleOver time IE-ANI, interbred with ASI (Dravidians), producing the three indias: north, mixed, south.Oct 10, 2018, 1:46 PMJanderson RexJayant Bhandari The genetic data really supports this.

    Suggest reading David Reich’s Who We Are and How We Got Here.

    Essentially the Indians have lived side by side for thousands of years and done very very little inbreeding. It’s remarkableOct 11, 2018, 1:34 PMJanderson RexKarlin’s article on India is great

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/the-puzzle-of-indian-iq-a-country-of-gypsies-and-jews/Oct 11, 2018, 1:34 PM


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    photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_43196237263/42266850_10156654890892264_5840317299562643456_n_10156654890887264.jpg Jonathan WilburOne thing that makes me really mad about the politicization of racial science (inb4 race is innately political; you know what I mean) is the lack of scientific and precise racial cladistics. Particularly for the purposes of modeling people in databases or software, the only formalized racial cladistics to which I have access is the census bureau’s broad and specious seven categories, which absurdly clusters Southern Asian and Northern Asian, for instance, which we know from pedestrian observation are categorically different.Sep 22, 2018 11:51amJonathan WilburSo I love stuff like this. I wish we had a formally defined taxonomic hierarchy of races.Sep 22, 2018 11:51amDon LemonatiI bet there are parts of India with less Dravidians than Canada and BritainSep 22, 2018 12:05pmJoe Boyumleave no street left behindSep 22, 2018 12:07pmCurt Doolittlewe do. it’s on my site. I maintain it.Sep 22, 2018 12:20pmCurt DoolittleThe principle issue is that India is a race-in-the-making but it won’t get made in modernity.Sep 22, 2018 12:22pmThiago Modelborn Pereira-BerthoVeddoidSep 22, 2018 12:25pmVincent PicciottiMy heavily Jewish grandmother traveled the entire country throughout a month

    She said it was amazing how much the India on the border with west Pakistan was grateful of the British rule to remove the Arabs

    Many will still adhere to British customs and style and traditionsSep 22, 2018 12:26pmVincent PicciottiMakes me think of I believe the Bantu tribe of South Africa who liked apartheid do to their separation from the ZuluSep 22, 2018 12:28pmAdam J. Meekthe castes function as mini races. India is a forge for many breeds of men.Sep 22, 2018 12:31pmErnest HeideggerRegress this map with per capita GDP pls.

    Caucasoid supremacy rears its ugly head!Sep 22, 2018 12:31pmSteven GantI need proof.Sep 22, 2018 12:32pmSteven Ganthttps://www.quora.com/Which-is-the-most-prosperous-and-most-backward-area-in-IndiaSep 22, 2018 12:36pmErnest Heidegger”Most prosperous” and “most backwards” are misleading. Regressing it across the board paints a better picture overall.Sep 22, 2018 12:37pmAaron Kahland@[100000564586470:2048:Vincent Picciotti] Bantu is not a tribe but an ethnicity (or linguistic group). The Zulu, for example, are Bantus.Sep 22, 2018 12:41pmErnest HeideggerHigher caste are higher income. Higher caste also tend to be lighter complected.

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Skin-colour-tied-to-caste-system-says-study/articleshow/55532665.cmsSep 22, 2018 12:42pmErnest Heideggerhttps://theconversation.com/bleached-girls-india-and-its-love-for-light-skin-80655Sep 22, 2018 12:42pmVincent Picciotti@[1420794899:2048:Aaron Kahland] ahhhhh

    Then who is the native group of South Africa

    Because I know the zulus aren’t the original natives

    The Lesotho people are much different and are closer to the minority black group that the zulus mercilessly murdered shortly after the Dutch made settlementSep 22, 2018 12:45pmAaron Kahland@[100000564586470:2048:Vincent Picciotti] That’s correct – the Bantus moved into South Africa. The original inhabitants are the San / Khoi peoples – who were replaced by the Bantus in the Eastern half of South Africa. San are not ethnically related to Bantus.Sep 22, 2018 12:47pmErnest HeideggerIt’s not just India. In South America and Asia, lighter characteristics are socially desirable, with women in those countries specifically requesting ethnic European sperm from sperm banks, and having plastic surgery to make their facial attributes appear lighter.

    Now the question is: is this psychological undercurrent derived from western marketing, or an innate/evolved understanding of what functions better?

    To be clear, straightening hair and bleaching skin doesn’t make non-European societies function like European societies, because race is more than skin deep, but imitation is the highest form of flattery.Sep 22, 2018 12:48pmNick BaileyLet no street be devoid of human shit.Sep 22, 2018 12:50pmJoe Boyumhow many H-1B’s in san francisco. seems they bring their culture with themSep 22, 2018 12:51pmVincent Picciotti@[1420794899:2048:Aaron Kahland] ahhh see that makes sense

    And apartheid saw them get their own respective sovereign lands correct? I know they are still quite backwards to most of the civilized world but I personall see no issue in that if they have their own space

    But I only find it funny because the zulus want all this power and the white beta cucks just can’t wait to steal land from other whites and give it awaySep 22, 2018 12:54pmCurt DoolittleNeoteny is desirable always and everywhereSep 22, 2018 12:56pmMatthew MorrisonWould that be your propertarianism site?Sep 22, 2018 12:56pmCurt Doolittleyes.

    https://propertarianism.com/2015/07/19/aristocracy-for-everyone-how-many-races-and-tribes/Sep 22, 2018 1:04pmMatthew MorrisonthanksSep 22, 2018 1:06pmTom JamesLooks like it’s where the 3 races meetSep 22, 2018 3:07pmJames Archer@[100000564586470:2048:Vincent Picciotti] Khoisan are who you’re thinking of.Sep 22, 2018 4:17pmVincent PicciottiJames Archer thank you JamesSep 22, 2018 4:20pmConnor Whittlep o o

    o

    oSep 22, 2018 5:16pmUjjwal Kumar ChoudharyThat was extremely stereotypical.Sep 22, 2018 11:28pmUjjwal Kumar ChoudharyThe progress is real, but anyway, have your fun.Sep 22, 2018 11:30pmUjjwal Kumar ChoudharyThere is no truth in this map, Mr. Curt.Sep 22, 2018 11:32pmCurt DoolittleThat is not an argument. ;)Sep 23, 2018 5:57amUjjwal Kumar ChoudharySo you mean to say that, I am a caucasoid? XDSep 23, 2018 6:05amEric Grose@[100009692238887:2048:Jiggs Chasmawala] your thoughts?Sep 23, 2018 6:10amJiggs ChasmawalaDravidians aren’t a separate race. This is more of a linguistic map. But even the dravidian languages share about 80% of their vocabulary with the northern languages.Sep 23, 2018 6:11amJiggs ChasmawalaA separate Dravidian race is a British invention to play divide & rule.Sep 23, 2018 6:14amEric Grose@[100009692238887:2048:Jiggs Chasmawala] perfidious AlbionSep 23, 2018 6:16amJiggs ChasmawalaI’d say abominable.Sep 23, 2018 6:17amJiggs Chasmawala@[741197263:2048:Curt Doolittle] About the myth of a separate dravidian race. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/rajiv-malhotra/how-evangelists-are-inven_b_841606.htmlSep 23, 2018 6:24amVivek NaLOL East Asians and Asians in thee US form the richest salaried employees.

    They’re so good that white people start talking about unfairness :pSep 23, 2018 7:03amJoe Boyum@[655112128:2048:Vivek Na] incredible what they can do when they live in a white country run by whites. wonder what india would look like under such circumstances?Sep 23, 2018 8:00amVivek NaI frankly feel that the intellectual people of India are far better letting caucasians manage stuff – especially since western capitalism and consumerism is the way the world works

    We come from a history of scarcity, adjustment and a knowledge based culture – Leadership, planning etc seem to be not quite the forte of the indian psyche.Sep 23, 2018 8:04amChris@[100001051667274:2048:Jonathon Perdis]Sep 23, 2018 8:16amEric Grose@[741197263:2048:Curt Doolittle] India is the country of the future, and always will be.Sep 23, 2018 8:53amScott Throne”huffpo”Sep 23, 2018 10:27pmHuy-Anh LêDon’t forget the Australoid natives in the middle of the country, and of course scattered in the Andaman Islands.Oct 08, 2018 7:57pmCurt DoolittleWell, the australoids passed through India, and mixed with denisovians, so there should be remnants in India, and those rare island people are of course also remnants.

    At present I think there is a lot of debate over dravidian orgins as ancestral Indians, and elamites, and hrpappans. And I am not yet knowledgeable enough to make an argument one way or the other. Although some others who follow me are. I had thought that Dravidians like Australoids were artifacts of the Ethiopian Departure 70K years ago. the the competing arguments are just as confusing.Oct 08, 2018 9:40pmSasha ShepherdThis would imply that Pakistan is almost entirely Caucasian?Oct 09, 2018 2:15amSasha ShepherdThe designation ‘Caucasian’ is actually quite broad.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Carleton_Coon_races_after_Pleistocene.PNGOct 09, 2018 2:16amAaron KahlandNot really because Pakistani isn’t an ethnicity. After Indian indpendence in 1948 there was a massive population transfer between newly created India and Pakistan based on religious affiliation. Hindus were supposed to go South, Muslims North. Pakistan is thus very heterogenous.Oct 09, 2018 10:02amCurt Doolittle^YepOct 09, 2018 11:02amTaylor SpoonerWhat’s your reasoning for the stark difference in phenotypes?Oct 09, 2018 4:22pmJiggs Chasmawaladifferent climates in the subcontinentOct 09, 2018 4:23pmMichael ChurchillMany Pakistanis have very large heads and look extremely intelligent. I went to Lahore and Karachi within the last five years. They are extremely INTENSE places. I ended up investing in Pakistan for a number of years because it looked to me that they would figure out their problems. Still seems that way to me. Basically they are building new cities on the outskirts of their existing cities.Oct 09, 2018 11:07pmMichael ChurchillWhat do you think of the theory that the high caste of India was actually a function of westerners settling there, and that the Upanishads are really western mystical thought. Sanskrit was sort of a western-created language for elites only. Does this hold water?Oct 09, 2018 11:08pmAaron Kahland@[714714586:2048:Michael Churchill] average IQ of Pakistan is 84 – which is no different from India and extremely low.Oct 10, 2018 6:22amJayant BhandariIndia is the most complex experiment about multi-ethnic, tribal society. Nothing works. No decisions get taken. No discussion takes place.Oct 10, 2018 10:32amJayant BhandariIt is hard to believe that this was’t the case. It might not have been western people, but a bunch of people who came to India around 2,500 years back were unique people, very smart. My guess is that the caste system was created to ensure that the genes didn’t get diluted.Oct 10, 2018 10:37amMichael ChurchillInteresting … thanks. Michael Tsarion writes about this theory a lot and I have heard it elsewhere as well. But I have no idea if it is true.Oct 10, 2018 10:42amCurt DoolittleAFAIK, the ANI’s were defeated by the IE’s, and imposed the caste system. This looks like the genetic record as well.Oct 10, 2018 1:46pmCurt DoolittleOver time IE-ANI, interbred with ASI (Dravidians), producing the three indias: north, mixed, south.Oct 10, 2018 1:46pmJanderson Rex@[503912481:2048:Jayant Bhandari] The genetic data really supports this.

    Suggest reading David Reich’s Who We Are and How We Got Here.

    Essentially the Indians have lived side by side for thousands of years and done very very little inbreeding. It’s remarkableOct 11, 2018 1:34pmJanderson RexKarlin’s article on India is great

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/the-puzzle-of-indian-iq-a-country-of-gypsies-and-jews/Oct 11, 2018 1:34pm


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  • THE SEVEN TYPES OF AMBIGUITY (CONFLATIONISM) by William Empson 1 – The first typ

    THE SEVEN TYPES OF AMBIGUITY (CONFLATIONISM)

    by William Empson

    1 – The first type of ambiguity is the metaphor, that is, when two things are said to be alike which have different properties. This concept is similar to that of metaphysical conceit.

    2 – Two or more meanings are resolved into one. Empson characterizes this as using two different metaphors at once.

    3 – Two ideas that are connected through context can be given in one word simultaneously.

    4 – Two or more meanings that do not agree but combine to make clear a complicated state of mind in the speaker.

    5 – When the author discovers his idea in the act of writing. Empson describes a simile that lies halfway between two statements made by the author.

    6 – When a statement says nothing and the readers are forced to invent a statement of their own, most likely in conflict with that of the author.

    7 – Two words that within context are opposites that expose a fundamental division in the author’s mind.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-09-22 10:39:00 UTC