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  • @jordanbpeterson Dr Peterson (Harris 4) We transfer MEANING and POTENTIAL by ana

    @jordanbpeterson Dr Peterson (Harris 4) We transfer MEANING and POTENTIAL by analogy and conflation, but TRUTH and LIMITS by deflation.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-24 17:20:30 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/823943571074088964

  • @jordanbpeterson Dr Peterson (Harris 3) so when you attempt to conflate the good

    @jordanbpeterson Dr Peterson (Harris 3) so when you attempt to conflate the good and the true in argument, you are violating western ethics.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-24 17:19:28 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/823943311413170177

  • @jordanbpeterson Dr Peterson (re: Harris 2) Western civ is unique in the use of

    @jordanbpeterson Dr Peterson (re: Harris 2) Western civ is unique in the use of deflationary truth and it’s why we innovate so rapidly.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-24 17:18:34 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/823943087382740996

  • @jordanbpeterson Dr Peterson (re: Harris) You can’t succeed by conflating good a

    @jordanbpeterson Dr Peterson (re: Harris) You can’t succeed by conflating good and true in argument(identity), only in literature (analogy).


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-24 17:17:33 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/823942831970648064

  • Josh: I think maybe this is the difference between our perceptions: I favor the

    Josh: I think maybe this is the difference between our perceptions: I favor the cost of institutional solutions that produce incentives by self interest that make the cost of providing the high cost of violence unnecessary. Because while violence alters immediacy, the cost of diligence and the distraction of shocks means the incentive to retaliate against you remains. Yet if institutions exist at all times and cause people to monitor each other, vastly more dramatic shocks are necessary to cause a change in state, and when you are otherwise occupied you do not leave an opening for retaliation and change in state.

    I express this sometimes as the difference between strategy and tactics. But perhaps I needed to say this in terms of costs and opportunities.

    If men(or women) are incapable of sovereignty, then maturing them into freemen by the use of institutions is merely cheaper, more competitive, more rewarding, and safer than the alternatives.

    This is nothing except a statement of the cost of domesticating animals.

    The Spartans were never as safe as the Romans. The Romans over extended. But the Spartans couldn’t even extend.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-23 13:46:00 UTC

  • via pm: —“i’m afraid of josh”– (anon) Yes well that’s probably the right thin

    via pm: —“i’m afraid of josh”– (anon)

    Yes well that’s probably the right thing to feel. But good criticism is very hard to find. I learn a lot from his.

    The truth is that people should be afraid of most of us. “Moral Clarity” that gives us “Moral Authority” for which we are willing to risk life and limb in an effort to save our civilization is something to be sought, but not feared.

    We need more of it. 🙂


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-23 13:35:00 UTC

  • Do you mean I have to repeat the last time I eviscerated you? Why do you waste m

    Do you mean I have to repeat the last time I eviscerated you? Why do you waste my time?

    1) Tell me how my work in Testimonialism recommends use of Natural Common, Judge Discovered Law to demand warranties of due diligence for public speech in matters of coercion (politics).

    2) Tell me what seven due diligences one must perform in order to satisfy that warranty, and why any of those is particularly difficult (categorical, logical, empirical, operational, reciprocal, fully accounted, and limited). (Especially when it was mises who discovered operationalism in Economics; when )

    3) Then tell me why this model will not work to incrementally suppress error, bias, wishful thinking, suggestion, overloading, propaganda and deceit.

    4) Then tell me why, except for reciprocity (moral consistency), if the hard sciences practice these warranties of due diligence, the same results in hard science would not be possible in psychological science, social science, economic science, and political science, if we include reciprocity in the list of required due diligences.

    5) Then tell me why we could not demand these due diligences in political speech in a court of law, just as we do for advertising claims, marketing claims, commercial sales presentations, contract provisions, services brought to market, and goods brought to market?

    6) Then tell me if defense of the informational (political) commons is policed by ordinary citizens (universal standing in matters of the commons) and if rule of law (universal application of the law to all individuals without exception) how this does not produce a market for Truth by suppressing the market for falsehood, just as we produce a market for truth by suppressing a market for fraud.

    There is no reason logical, empirical, functional, or ethical that we cannot demand truthful speech in politics.

    Except for those who wish to perpetuate lies.

    if you can construct an argument against this series then you will ‘have me’. But you write a great deal of nonsense without actually addressing the very boring reality that between the hard sciences and the law, we already do most of this demanding of due diligence. And do it successfully. Daily. In fact, if it weren’t for the long standing legal proposition that we should tolerate error and deceit in order to encourage political speech, in the same way we tolerate slander and libel of public figures to give license to opinion and error, in the same way we tolerate abuse of patents in order to encourage innovation, in the same way we allow legal interpretation instead of strict construction from original intent, then we would already do most of this. What we learned in the 20th century was (a) the use of operational language to create existential (observational) consistency, (b) and that operational consistency allowed us to discover limits of theories. But operational language has been studied (EPrime) and authors have written entire works in it. Law already favors reciprocity, and law already constructs documents increasingly operationally. What our framers did not expect was that propaganda was so cheaply manufactured and in such industrial quantity, and the common man or woman is so susceptible to it, that the cost of refutation would be impossible to defeat. So rather than leave such ‘frauds’ to be freely made, we can use consumer protection to protect consumers.

    Either you can respond to this or you cannot.

    (or perhaps you will not publish this response like you did not publish my last.)


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-22 17:40:00 UTC

  • @nntaleb (quantitative/financial)) and @curtdoolittle(epistemological/legal) and

    @nntaleb (quantitative/financial)) and @curtdoolittle(epistemological/legal) and now @jordanbpeterson (philosophical/literary) VERY CLOSE!!!


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-22 16:27:56 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/823205568563343360

  • I know. I’m asking you to think sideways. sorry. ’tis what it is

    I know. I’m asking you to think sideways. sorry. ’tis what it is.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-21 13:44:00 UTC

  • “Hello Curt. Do you know the book Meta-Philosophy : Philosophy from a philosophi

    —“Hello Curt. Do you know the book Meta-Philosophy : Philosophy from a philosophical perspective?”— Nate

    I tend to use scientific language to make similar statements. For example, I would say that philosophy consists in the use of reason to provide us with a means decidability.

    But that the means of decidability requires a premise, and that premise is ‘an outcome’ or outputs. So given any set of inputs how can we produce a given set of outputs? And whereas in the physical world we are limited by the resources, methods of transformation, and time available. But our methods of transformation are either true or false. In the world of preferences, we are instead most limited in our ability to convince others to prefer what we choose to prefer. And unfortunately, nearly unlimited in the methods by which we can use deception to obtain their agreement upon such a preference.

    Yet, if we use reason to provide us decidability in truthful testimony proper, we can provide decidability across domains, whether they be matters of the physical, personal, and social. Or whether they be matters of limits, preferences or truths.

    I can’t say enough that I don’t take philosophy seriously, and that I don’t read it at all. I actually have come to the conclusion that philosophy as practiced is as harmful as theology.

    Curt Doolittle

    The Propertarian Institute

    Kiev, Ukraine


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-21 10:53:00 UTC