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  • “I swear – the last two years must have been a rewiring of the brain. I think it

    —“I swear – the last two years must have been a rewiring of the brain. I think its a matter of continuous exposure as well. It was really counter-intuitive before. I had to work at “switching” between thinking modes. Now its just there. I can’t always put it into words right way – but the default seems to be e-prime-‘ish and non-e-prime just a matter of convenience; or knowing if I go there it will demand way to much of the person I’m talking too.”–Bill Joslin


    Source date (UTC): 2018-12-19 13:17:00 UTC

  • “Studying what a religion DOES to a people really matters….it is clear from th

    —“Studying what a religion DOES to a people really matters….it is clear from the MOMENT that Constantine transitioned the Roman Empire from a loose paganism based around an imperial cult supported by a “market of local gods” that Rome was forever changed…i.e. a Classically Egyptian and Greek city that basically gave birth to astronomy (Ptolemies) like Alexandria went from being a center of learning (it had the world’s truly great library) to being a city that argued about asinine theological differences as a way to lie and deceive in the service of monopoly (Abrahamicists are monopolists; Indo-Aryan Europeans are for markets) rather than the market of ideas that is REALLY the truth.:—Nick Dahlheim


    Source date (UTC): 2018-12-19 13:11:00 UTC

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    photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/48397580_10156856577102264_3474876959077433344_o_10156856577087264.jpg David Bauer ValhallaIf no ones taking Antarctica, I will. 😎Dec 19, 2018, 10:23 AMAlejandro ChirinosAin’t Latin America some kind of bastard child of the West?Dec 19, 2018, 10:25 AMJamie RobinsonThats why its purple i think lolDec 19, 2018, 10:36 AMAlejandro ChirinosIs disappointing, to be honest.Dec 19, 2018, 10:43 AMDan AltschuldI’ve heard Uruguay is pretty awesome and overwhelmingly euro. Look up their wiki.Dec 19, 2018, 10:53 AMAlejandro Chirinos…not the case with Venezuela,where i live, having 82 IQ as a national average really shows off…Dec 19, 2018, 10:59 AMJamie RobinsonRight, never heard a continent so proud of their european heritage before, Latins speaking spanish and all…..Dec 19, 2018, 11:03 AMJennifer DeanAntarctica is already taken by the globalistsDec 19, 2018, 11:55 AMChristian GrønningWhat confuses me the most are the two spots of hindu in South AmericaDec 19, 2018, 1:47 PMCroib MagaPapue New Guinea is Western???Dec 19, 2018, 2:53 PMJosé Emmanuel FigueroaColombia is not to much far with 85.Dec 19, 2018, 4:17 PMMartin ŠtěpánJennifer Dean And that should be the one they’re left with in the end.Dec 19, 2018, 6:46 PMEthan Tricelatin america is kinda proof positive that you can’t just give a culture to people and expect it to stick. Hell, Australia started as a penal colony (full of the worst the brits had to offer), but I can’t imagine a single Latin American state on par with it today.Dec 19, 2018, 7:34 PMSamuel BaldryExcuse me but Australia should be in red 🤣Dec 19, 2018, 9:12 PMBrian McQuistonCroib Maga Western Christianity is Catholicism and Protestantism.Dec 19, 2018, 10:04 PMCroib MagaThere’s A LOT more going on there than ChristianityDec 19, 2018, 10:14 PMBrian McQuistonFirst past the post. Plurality takes all.Dec 19, 2018, 10:15 PMCroib MagaBy that logic most of Africa should be blueDec 19, 2018, 10:16 PMBrian McQuistonOn second thought, now that I see that they separated South America and Subsaharan Africa, it’s probably because Papua New Guinea is functionally Port Moresby and an Australian proxy.Dec 19, 2018, 10:17 PMCroib MagaThat’s not what I hear from people in CairnsDec 19, 2018, 10:19 PMCroib MagaOr people from PNG for that matterDec 19, 2018, 10:19 PMSaul SilverI’m surprised Jamaica and Haiti don’t fall under AfricanDec 19, 2018, 11:33 PMAndrij HawerchukIn Russia more than 40% are muslimsDec 20, 2018, 12:43 AMSamuel CharlickWikipedia puts it at around 6.5% – where are you getting your figures from?Dec 20, 2018, 6:33 AMGöran DahlSamuel Charlick He’s Ukrainian, enough said.Dec 21, 2018, 12:33 PMCurt Doolittlehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_RussiaDec 21, 2018, 1:25 PMTobias DarbySydney, maybe but elsewhere western culture is alive and well..Dec 21, 2018, 4:22 PMSamuel BaldryTobias Darby im from melbourne mate and i can tell you 100% the CBD is now big chinatown.Dec 21, 2018, 4:26 PMTobias DarbySamuel Baldry ok haven’t been there for 10 years… I left Sydney and now live in Ulladulla… Heaven.. find a town without a railway station and you are safe.Dec 21, 2018, 4:37 PMAndrij HawerchukКурт Дулитл https://youtu.be/G540ICjXB8YDec 22, 2018, 3:30 PMCurt Doolittleo m f gDec 22, 2018, 3:55 PMChristian KalafutToynbee?Dec 24, 2018, 3:47 AMDomagoy WattsThat doesn’t look good.Dec 24, 2018, 1:51 PM


    Source date (UTC): 2018-12-19 10:17:00 UTC

  • photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/48397580_10156856577102264_347487695

    photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/48397580_10156856577102264_3474876959077433344_o_10156856577087264.jpg David Bauer ValhallaIf no ones taking Antarctica, I will. 😎Dec 19, 2018, 10:23 AMAlejandro ChirinosAin’t Latin America some kind of bastard child of the West?Dec 19, 2018, 10:25 AMHof von TotenköpfenIs Kazakhstan really orthodox? I thought it was more Muslim…Dec 19, 2018, 10:34 AMJamie RobinsonThats why its purple i think lolDec 19, 2018, 10:36 AMAlejandro ChirinosIs disappointing, to be honest.Dec 19, 2018, 10:43 AMCurt DoolittleEthnic Kazakhs are 63.1% of the population and ethnic Russians in Kazakhstan are 23.7%Dec 19, 2018, 10:44 AMDann HopkinsWait, Japan is Japanese? Who knewDec 19, 2018, 10:49 AMDan AltschuldI’ve heard Uruguay is pretty awesome and overwhelmingly euro. Look up their wiki.Dec 19, 2018, 10:53 AMAlejandro Chirinos…not the case with Venezuela,where i live, having 82 IQ as a national average really shows off…Dec 19, 2018, 10:59 AMJamie RobinsonRight, never heard a continent so proud of their european heritage before, Latins speaking spanish and all…..Dec 19, 2018, 11:03 AMHof von TotenköpfenI met a Kazakh in college some years ago. He looked Mongolian and was Islamic.

    The Islam didn’t surprise me, but the ethnic background did. Then I realized my only real cultural knowledge of Kazakhstan came from the movie “Borat.”Dec 19, 2018, 11:04 AMJennifer DeanAntarctica is already taken by the globalistsDec 19, 2018, 11:55 AMGreg Hamiltonbrilliant contribution…Dec 19, 2018, 12:18 PMDann HopkinsI know right? So glad this map could clear that upDec 19, 2018, 12:19 PMCurt Doolittlethere are only 16m people in that big countryDec 19, 2018, 1:21 PMCurt DoolittlescaleDec 19, 2018, 1:24 PMChristian GrønningWhat confuses me the most are the two spots of hindu in South AmericaDec 19, 2018, 1:47 PMAlex MacleodNeoUrHeimat?Dec 19, 2018, 2:49 PMCroib MagaPapue New Guinea is Western???Dec 19, 2018, 2:53 PMJosé Emmanuel FigueroaColombia is not to much far with 85.Dec 19, 2018, 4:17 PMAndrey SokoloffKazakhstan used to be almost 40% Russian. Northern K used to be Russian territory. (Future conflict hint)Dec 19, 2018, 4:59 PMMartin ŠtěpánJennifer Dean And that should be the one they’re left with in the end.Dec 19, 2018, 6:46 PMEthan Tricelatin america is kinda proof positive that you can’t just give a culture to people and expect it to stick. Hell, Australia started as a penal colony (full of the worst the brits had to offer), but I can’t imagine a single Latin American state on par with it today.Dec 19, 2018, 7:34 PMSamuel BaldryExcuse me but Australia should be in red 🤣Dec 19, 2018, 9:12 PMBrian McQuistonCroib Maga Western Christianity is Catholicism and Protestantism.Dec 19, 2018, 10:04 PMCroib MagaThere’s A LOT more going on there than ChristianityDec 19, 2018, 10:14 PMBrian McQuistonFirst past the post. Plurality takes all.Dec 19, 2018, 10:15 PMCroib MagaBy that logic most of Africa should be blueDec 19, 2018, 10:16 PMBrian McQuistonOn second thought, now that I see that they separated South America and Subsaharan Africa, it’s probably because Papua New Guinea is functionally Port Moresby and an Australian proxy.Dec 19, 2018, 10:17 PMCroib MagaThat’s not what I hear from people in CairnsDec 19, 2018, 10:19 PMCroib MagaOr people from PNG for that matterDec 19, 2018, 10:19 PMSaul SilverI’m surprised Jamaica and Haiti don’t fall under AfricanDec 19, 2018, 11:33 PMAndrij HawerchukIn Russia more than 40% are muslimsDec 20, 2018, 12:43 AMGöran DahlAnd before that, less than 2000 years ago, Kazakhstan used to be 100% White.Dec 20, 2018, 2:42 AMSamuel CharlickWikipedia puts it at around 6.5% – where are you getting your figures from?Dec 20, 2018, 6:33 AMNick DahlheimI thought Japan was a nation of ideas for anime cartoons and video gamesDec 20, 2018, 10:12 PMGöran DahlSamuel Charlick He’s Ukrainian, enough said.Dec 21, 2018, 12:33 PMCurt Doolittlehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_RussiaDec 21, 2018, 1:25 PMStephen SchnabelFor all the jokes, effeminate stuff, and declining population, Japan will be Japanese long after much of the west stops being western.Dec 21, 2018, 3:28 PMTobias DarbySydney, maybe but elsewhere western culture is alive and well..Dec 21, 2018, 4:22 PMSamuel BaldryTobias Darby im from melbourne mate and i can tell you 100% the CBD is now big chinatown.Dec 21, 2018, 4:26 PMTobias DarbySamuel Baldry ok haven’t been there for 10 years… I left Sydney and now live in Ulladulla… Heaven.. find a town without a railway station and you are safe.Dec 21, 2018, 4:37 PMAndrij HawerchukКурт Дулитл https://youtu.be/G540ICjXB8YDec 22, 2018, 3:30 PMCurt Doolittleo m f gDec 22, 2018, 3:55 PMChristian KalafutToynbee?Dec 24, 2018, 3:47 AMDomagoy WattsThat doesn’t look good.Dec 24, 2018, 1:51 PM


    Source date (UTC): 2018-12-19 10:17:00 UTC

  • أنا أسف. لا أستطيع ترجمة هذه الكلمات إلى العربية. من الصعب للغاية ترجمة المفردات

    أنا أسف. لا أستطيع ترجمة هذه الكلمات إلى العربية. من الصعب للغاية ترجمة

    المفردات مع الاحتفاظ بمعنى النص.

    سلام

    IS PROPERTARIANISM SOMEHOW CONSERVATISM?

    The term “propertarian” refers to a ‘criticism’ of libertarians, rule-of-law advocates, ’empiricists’, and ‘materialists’, made in the mid-twentieth century. So I intentionally ‘appropriated’ the criticism ‘propertarian’ as a definition: ‘propertarianism’.

    All propertarianism is reducible to is a demand for individual Sovereignty, which requires Rule of Law, which then requires, truth, duty, reciprocity, and property. Which then requires markets in everything. Which includes courts that resolve differences empirically, by demanding truth, reciprocity, and property. Leaving the ‘preferential and good’ to the individual sovereign’s choice.

    This “Sovereignty” or “Sovereigntarianism” results in western hierarchical (market) Aristocracy (monarchy, aristocracy, nobility, burgher, craftsman, laborer, serf, slave, and ‘wild man’) and the institutions of an independent judiciary, a monarch as a judge of last resort, a jury, or’ thang’ or senate or parliament, or multiple houses of parliament, and a militia.

    So yes, Propertarianism consists of the previously unwritten philosophy of (traditional) western civilization.

    And as such it consists of libertarian(intellectual), classical liberal(political), and conservative (military).

    And as such, yes it is a ‘conservative’ (aristocratic) philosophy.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-12-19 09:22:00 UTC

  • photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/48932487_10156856428182264_484105841

    photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/48932487_10156856428182264_4841058416157786112_n_10156856428177264.jpg A WONDERFUL IMAGE BY NICHOLAS ROY

    (pls thank @[100001121595181:2048:Nicholas Roy])Bill Joslin(there’s a typo which everyone is chapping my ass over… Not that I’m one that should be pointing out typos… But apparently a few people have spend a considerable amount of time trying to figure out what “touse” means)Dec 19, 2018, 9:08 AMBill JoslinI see it’s fixed!Dec 19, 2018, 9:09 AMBill JoslinLove it! Make more points like this!Dec 19, 2018, 9:10 AMShawn KinneyStill lacking the spirtitual energies that the competing forces willl bring. Much respect tho…………….Dec 19, 2018, 9:11 AMÍvar Örn HeimissonThis meme is great.Dec 19, 2018, 9:11 AMBill JoslinThis would make a great posterDec 19, 2018, 9:12 AMCurt DoolittleOf self interest, opportunity to profit, and material change, it is very unlikely that ‘spiritual’ anything will drive men as much.

    We know this from all of history. Spirit makes men chatter. Opportunity makes men war.Dec 19, 2018, 9:24 AMShawn KinneyCurt Doolittle: That is certainly an ideal………..Small numbers I’ll assume, unless family and access to resources are cut off,,,,”The road” type shit….Dec 19, 2018, 9:32 AMAngus JamesonA modest edit suggestion for clarity:

    “The veracity of that promise is that he will use his violence to secure freedom; that it’s met with his lack of need to use it for any other purpose.”Dec 19, 2018, 12:29 PMCurt Doolittleno,the original is correct. by preparing vigorously for war, one is least likely to need to war.Dec 19, 2018, 12:45 PMStephen ThomasAncient wisdom refined and retold.

    Political Power comes from the barrel of the gun, point of the spear or the edge of the sword and political power is sovereignty.

    Only the sovereign can be or are free.Dec 19, 2018, 12:51 PMCurt Doolittlequotable.Dec 19, 2018, 12:56 PMStephen ThomasLearning from the master and very excited for the future.

    It’s so damn close now, I can feel it.Dec 19, 2018, 1:13 PMCurt DoolittleStephen Thomas i noticed that you are getting there, yes….Dec 19, 2018, 1:14 PMStephen ThomasThank you, always nice to hear.Dec 19, 2018, 1:18 PMSimon Nick TemplarLove the quote and the fact you probably used a Russian operator with a suppressed AK.Dec 19, 2018, 4:59 PMAngus JamesonThat’s obvious, Curt. Humans have been going to war forever. Mass deterrent is more of an American invention and yet, Americans go to war.

    I think my modest edit is more correct.Dec 19, 2018, 5:06 PMVince ReeThankDec 20, 2018, 1:50 AMJack Riänfree·dom

    /ˈfrēdəm/

    noun:

    Good men, doing terrible things to equally terrible men.Dec 20, 2018, 3:15 AMA WONDERFUL IMAGE BY NICHOLAS ROY

    (pls thank Nicholas Roy)


    Source date (UTC): 2018-12-19 09:03:00 UTC

  • photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/48932487_10156856428182264_484105841

    photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/48932487_10156856428182264_4841058416157786112_n_10156856428177264.jpg A WONDERFUL IMAGE BY NICHOLAS ROY

    (pls thank @[100001121595181:2048:Nicholas Roy])Nicholas RoyMy name is Amr sleem now? 😂😂Dec 19, 2018, 9:08 AMBill Joslin(there’s a typo which everyone is chapping my ass over… Not that I’m one that should be pointing out typos… But apparently a few people have spend a considerable amount of time trying to figure out what “touse” means)Dec 19, 2018, 9:08 AMBill JoslinI see it’s fixed!Dec 19, 2018, 9:09 AMNicholas Roymy bad. This meme wasn’t meant to be posted in public. I made it extremely fast to describe a point in a group chatDec 19, 2018, 9:09 AMBill JoslinLove it! Make more points like this!Dec 19, 2018, 9:10 AMShawn KinneyStill lacking the spirtitual energies that the competing forces willl bring. Much respect tho…………….Dec 19, 2018, 9:11 AMÍvar Örn HeimissonThis meme is great.Dec 19, 2018, 9:11 AMBill JoslinThis would make a great posterDec 19, 2018, 9:12 AMCurt DoolittleOf self interest, opportunity to profit, and material change, it is very unlikely that ‘spiritual’ anything will drive men as much.

    We know this from all of history. Spirit makes men chatter. Opportunity makes men war.Dec 19, 2018, 9:24 AMCurt Doolittlethat’s who forwarded it to me… lol… fixing now.Dec 19, 2018, 9:27 AMShawn KinneyCurt Doolittle: That is certainly an ideal………..Small numbers I’ll assume, unless family and access to resources are cut off,,,,”The road” type shit….Dec 19, 2018, 9:32 AMAngus JamesonA modest edit suggestion for clarity:

    “The veracity of that promise is that he will use his violence to secure freedom; that it’s met with his lack of need to use it for any other purpose.”Dec 19, 2018, 12:29 PMCurt Doolittleno,the original is correct. by preparing vigorously for war, one is least likely to need to war.Dec 19, 2018, 12:45 PMStephen ThomasAncient wisdom refined and retold.

    Political Power comes from the barrel of the gun, point of the spear or the edge of the sword and political power is sovereignty.

    Only the sovereign can be or are free.Dec 19, 2018, 12:51 PMCurt Doolittlequotable.Dec 19, 2018, 12:56 PMStephen ThomasLearning from the master and very excited for the future.

    It’s so damn close now, I can feel it.Dec 19, 2018, 1:13 PMCurt DoolittleStephen Thomas i noticed that you are getting there, yes….Dec 19, 2018, 1:14 PMStephen ThomasThank you, always nice to hear.Dec 19, 2018, 1:18 PMSimon Nick TemplarLove the quote and the fact you probably used a Russian operator with a suppressed AK.Dec 19, 2018, 4:59 PMAngus JamesonThat’s obvious, Curt. Humans have been going to war forever. Mass deterrent is more of an American invention and yet, Americans go to war.

    I think my modest edit is more correct.Dec 19, 2018, 5:06 PMVince ReeThankDec 20, 2018, 1:50 AMJack Riänfree·dom

    /ˈfrēdəm/

    noun:

    Good men, doing terrible things to equally terrible men.Dec 20, 2018, 3:15 AMA WONDERFUL IMAGE BY NICHOLAS ROY

    (pls thank Nicholas Roy)


    Source date (UTC): 2018-12-19 09:03:00 UTC

  • SELF-MEDICATION Michael E. Darden, Nicholas W. Papageorge NBER Working Paper No.

    https://www.nber.org/papers/w25371RATIONAL SELF-MEDICATION

    Michael E. Darden, Nicholas W. Papageorge

    NBER Working Paper No. 25371

    Issued in December 2018

    NBER Program(s):Health Economics

    We develop a theory of rational self-medication. The idea is that forward-looking individuals, lacking access to better treatment options, attempt to manage the symptoms of mental and physical pain outside of formal medical care. They use substances that relieve symptoms in the short run but that may be harmful in the long run. For example, heavy drinking could alleviate current symptoms of depression but could also exacerbate future depression or lead to alcoholism. Rational self-medication suggests that, when presented with a safer, more effective treatment, individuals will substitute towards it. To investigate, we use forty years of longitudinal data from the Framingham Heart Study and leverage the exogenous introduction of selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs). We demonstrate an economically meaningful reduction in heavy alcohol consumption for men when SSRIs became available. Additionally, we show that addiction to alcohol inhibits substitution. Our results suggest a role for rational self-medication in understanding the origin of substance abuse. Furthermore, our work suggests that punitive policies targeting substance abuse may backfire, leading to substitution towards even more harmful substances to self-medicate. In contrast, policies promoting medical innovation that provide safer treatment options could obviate the need to self-medicate with dangerous or addictive substances.

    https://www.nber.org/papers/w25371


    Source date (UTC): 2018-12-18 11:17:00 UTC

  • A GEM BY BILL —“That’s what “Law” means “Decidable” in scientific language, an

    A GEM BY BILL

    —“That’s what “Law” means “Decidable” in scientific language, and which means “Absolute” in archaic moral language. … That’s what Laws of Nature (unconscious, deterministic) and Natural Law (conscious, volitionary) mean: they are DESCRIPTIVE. You cannot violate the laws of nature but you can manipulate them. You can violate the natural laws, and pay the consequences. The natural world already calculates its optimum, and we ‘cheat’ it. The natural law is something else men cheat. However, the optimum method of human evolution is the elimination of cheating (parasitism). If you eliminate all parasitism you end up with natural law. If you do not then you don’t.”—Curt Doolittle

    —“Don’t you still need a justification that’s more than “it’s natural” to avoid justifying your law on a naturalistic fallacy? The justification for propertarianism seems to be a utilitarian argument.”—Hue Whitman

    Answer by Bill Joslin:

    The Naturalistic fallacy relates to equating a positive moral standing for an action due to it being natural (“if it happens in nature it’s therefore good”) not a utilitarian stance which provides an operational description of how the action results in immoral consequences (“under these conditions and incentives, human conflict rises”). Two different domains of argumentation, the former justificatory, the later warranty.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-12-17 18:11:00 UTC

  • THE DESIRES OF ABSOLUTISTS by Bill Joslin I don’t think the absolutists are hate

    THE DESIRES OF ABSOLUTISTS

    by Bill Joslin

    I don’t think the absolutists are haters. I think they lack what they claim we lack – that being a foundation for meaning,. motivation -“a superordinate transcendental ideal to be subservient to”…

    We have that – it’s called Career, Friends, Family and Kids.

    They’re looking for meaning and inspiration.

    They’re unestablished males seeking to individuate from “dad”.

    The critiques leveled at us as best as I can see are a series of straw men and equivocations , but suspect their main recruitment efforts which are successful are build off critique of propertarianism (much like our strongest arguments are leveled against libertarians) – without prop – there would not really be much for absolutist to build their case on without going whole hog pomo.

    Besides it’s a strange conflation of de Jouvenel On Power used to justify “charisma” (he who drives the idiom is king) as a “metaphysically” coherent justification for absolute rule (the idiomatic subterrain king) (which if you really thought about it – what drives idiomatic mimicking in society (fashion, fame etc) is often driven from the underclasses up (pop music, pop culture, thug culture etc)…

    At least we understand why this is: omegas service as stress relief for the group – deferred aggression and initiation of play.

    Why? Because that’s all they have to offer.

    They’re not haters per say, just building a castle in the clouds and looking for others to agree it’s made of stone.

    Now, I shouldn’t have said they “lack” what they claim we are lacking, but rather have said they are looking for (trying to construct) what they see we are missing.

    But it kind of baffles me… For instance; aesthetics and transcendentals being required for motivation… Joel once said to me that having an aesthetic is propelling these young men toward excellence – working out, self perfection, career etc…. Yet under in the sheepdog group the things which Ivar is doing with is family business, of Alain is doing personally, or Bryan is doing locally… There are many of us driven forward by understanding the operational necessity of agency-en-toto .

    It’s a simple if-then operation. If agency is at the root of this then I should build agency, if I value (xyz) then I should act (agency) …

    This doesn’t diminish or reduce motivation to some materialistic or positivist frame (Anglo ontology as they would say) but rather demonstrates that aesthetics grounds into something more fundamental.

    The result is a market for aesthetics – each moving in the same direction (increase agency) for their own personal reasons opposed to a grand unifying aesthetic.

    Just seems like they’re seeking another monopoly – or rather seeking someone who has a monopoly on aesthetics and/or a monopoly on inspiration ( a leader )

    You know…. “Anglo ontology can’t provide a transcendental” – yet I see that it is. It’s just not always a shiny, polished, sophisticated ideal… It can be mundane – like love of your family, or pride in work well done – it can be simple. And that is where I see their dissatisfaction – what we propose isn’t “special” enough. And that specialness they seek I think is the outward manifestation of young males seeking to establish themself via status symbols (specialness) at reduced costs (ideals over reals).

    I have a great respect for and see them walking the same path I did 20 years ago… That path leads here not over there.

    Give them time, let them live, forebearence for what ever costs they’ll impose in the meantime… They’ll eventually meet us somewhere in the middle – all young men must individuate on their own terms (or it wouldn’t be an individuation process).

    They’re my brothers too…. If anything it’s taught me what that patient yet irritated look on my father’s face meant, when I railed away at some stupidity in my youth.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-12-16 05:48:00 UTC