photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/51133950_10156949625707264_1273282031727411200_n_10156949625697264.jpg Nick DahlheimDamn, Bill Joslin is the King of radical disambiguationJan 29, 2019, 11:14 PMOsman KuğudağI read a statement that the Celts could not defeat the Romans until they adopted some of the Roman ways. If that is true, is it really that bad to learn from your enemy if it makes you superior?Jan 30, 2019, 3:42 AMAdam DavidThat quote is a really good condensed explanation for the tactics used by the right. At least since i’ve become politically aware. It takes a real understanding to condense information like that.Jan 30, 2019, 3:43 AMChristopher HallPlease don’t tell me propertarianism is horse shoe theory posting about tactics. Confounding tactics with intent is childish. Projecting force and inflicting loss on the enemy is how victory is achieved, there are just scales of how force is used.Jan 30, 2019, 9:06 AMCurt DoolittleWTF does that mean? Horseshoe theory suggests far right and far left are similar (authoritarian). I don’t make that argument at all. I make the argument rule of law and necessary truth, vs rule by discretion and necessary lies. And that right intolerance is eugenic, and left intolerance dysgenic. The fact that the far right has adopted the tactics of the marxist and postmodernists is simply a function of the evidence. The only answer is the organized application of violence to impose, under rule of law, our traditional order.Jan 30, 2019, 9:12 AMChristopher HallAnd I agree with how that force should be used to impose those virtues and rules. We are learning what tools we can put in our bag right now and how we can use them asymmetrically. The left has been doing this far longer so yes, the right is learning from their enemies. If you don’t know how, copy them
Imposing rule of law and traditional order is, I would say, not in the cards right now and the force needed to impose order is an escalation we don’t have the total means of yet. At this stage agitation and other means are being used to build and counter the narrative. Many of these tactics have originated from the left in the modern sense, but a new type of hammer is still just a hammer.
As far as the mix up is concerned, I read the first sentence as a premise for the rest which is how it flows, however previous conversations with normie types take immense issue with acting “principled” and not using any tactics to insure their own victory. The tactics we know how to use are the ones that have “immediate time horizons” and our tool bag doesn’t have many others that are long time horizons. Those that we use include networking, training and content creation for the most part.
No offense meant Mr. Dootlittle, just don’t want to see the same moral pitfalls.Jan 30, 2019, 9:29 AMCurt Doolittleso you agree with bill then….Jan 30, 2019, 9:37 AMChristopher HallFor the most part, except I don’t agree with using another one’s means to achieve their ends as compromising our goals. Necessity dictates immediate response sometimes and if you can’t reply with a better means you use what’s available. When faced with doxing, dox the guy doing it. Censorship from big tech, boycott. Etc.
Another big step for our side would be making our own tools for our own tool bag to achieve our ends.Jan 30, 2019, 9:43 AMBenjamin IrelandThis is basically what I was alluding to yesterday about conservatives talking out of both sides of their mouths regarding the Civil War. The truth is already on our side. We don’t need to be intellectually dishonest in order to win debates. Acquire the truth, and help spread it.Jan 30, 2019, 11:56 AMDylan KnowlesThe argument that the right hasnt been doing it right and needs to learn from the Enemy because they evolve rapidly is outright wrong. The right has known for hundreds of years how to remove enemies. The issue isnt the application of force or the tactics involved. Its the balls to act in the correct way. We suffer from either inaction or over action. People who want to sit around all day and hash and rehash and do nothing or people who lash out in all directions and only accomplish getting their name on a federal watchlist and local police radars. Utilizing left wing tactics doesnt give us any ground, it only dilutes any attempts at meaningful change.Jan 30, 2019, 6:28 PMCurt Doolittle^Failure to act as a group.Jan 30, 2019, 6:34 PMDylan KnowlesCurt Doolittle Id even go so far as to say most of these new “Right Groups” and the alt right are making learned mistakes. But god forbid you point out inaccuracies because then its “Punching Right”.Jan 30, 2019, 6:35 PMStephen ThomasThe only real method to defeat the left is to utterly (violently) destroy them. Our tolerance is their greatest ally.
Skull PileJan 30, 2019, 6:52 PMNick Dahlheim100 millionJan 30, 2019, 6:54 PMPat RyanThe left doesn’t own monopoly on certain kinds of tactics. They just rely on them heavily.
If an enemy charged at me with an axe, and they kept using that axe over and over again, I could say, “Those damn axes are overpowered, nerf plz”, or I could look at the axe as a weakness, study it, use it, and figure out the weakpoint.
Spearman and swordsmen and salesmen bicker about means. It’s best to be victorymen.Jan 30, 2019, 8:07 PMDylan KnowlesTheres a difference, lets say for purpose of thought the left wing are using axes. But you own a gun. Instead of using the gun you own you think to yourself “Man, maybe I should get a axe if all these people are using them.” When you already have the means to solve the problem you dont adapt to the enemies tactics, you remove the enemy. Point blank. If I get stranded on an island of a lost tribe and I have my gun, and my 30 round magazine. And they are using bows and arrows or throwing spears at me. Im not gonna sling my weapon and pick up a spear and go toe to toe with a dozen members of the lost tribe. Im gonna flick off my safety and remove the problem. And in all reality, thats about the equivalent of our situation. The only issue we have is too many people want to pick up the proverbial spear and fight the tribe head on when we already have solutions that far outweigh the enemies means to overpower us.Jan 30, 2019, 8:12 PMChris CantrellI agree, but I am also learning that the truth is not enough. This is a reply I got for spreading truth last week…
“No, what you are is one of these people who fishes for people to give you all kinds of “arguments” and “proof” just to wear us out. There is even a specific term for it.
It is plain as day that Trump and his supporters are racist, that these “kids” are racist, and YOU are in denial.
Good day, sir.”Jan 31, 2019, 6:56 AMBenjamin IrelandChris Cantrell yeah, those kind of people depress the hell out of me.Jan 31, 2019, 10:46 AMCurt DoolittleWrong Logic Chris.
Truth is an excuse for moral men to prosecute (or punish or eliminate) those who engage in genocide, fraud and deceit.
It is not a means of convincing those who are immoral.
There is only one means of persuasion: the organize application of violence to deny other than truth the opportunity to survive.Jan 31, 2019, 10:50 AMDan WarrenReason for the reasonable, violence for the rest.Feb 1, 2019, 11:13 AM
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