Curt Doolittle

Form: Mini Essay

  • September 25th, 2018 9:42 AM [W]omen are wonderful, and superior at the same thi

    September 25th, 2018 9:42 AM [W]omen are wonderful, and superior at the same things men are not. The problem was extending the franchise without producing a market for differences between the genders in the production of commons. We created houses for the aristocracy(monarchy), nobility(lords), middle class (commons). But when we added labor (labor), and then added women(women), we did not add houses for them, and thereby failed to grasp what we had done: created a market for the production of commons between the classes that prohibited the abuse by any in gaining majority. The problem was, that people become increasingly incompetent in matters of the day as their responsibilities decline. So without requirements for children and property it is almost impossible to create a civil discourse and market between the classes – since the people in the market for commons must demonstrate prior ability to succeed in markets of voluntary cooperation.

  • September 25th, 2018 8:58 AM SELF AUTHORING – SUPPRESSION OF MAL-INTUITION (supp

    September 25th, 2018 8:58 AM SELF AUTHORING – SUPPRESSION OF MAL-INTUITION
    (suppression of the influence of cognitive biases)

    —“Q: Hey Curt, do you have a thought on the use of self-affirmations to create change in the self? For example, do you consciously talk positively with yourself with the intent on changing your own perception (personal narrative) ? Or do you think such a practice of positive self-affirmation can be used as an effective way of changing one’s personal narrative?”—

    Yes, that’s the essence of self authoring and stoicism is a formal approach to it. Yes it works. Although you can only change to what is true and good from what is false and not good. Most of the time I try to talk myself into either: 1 – ‘Be kind; be overly kind; they are only children, and doing the best they can in life.’ (It is very hard to control the autistic urge to anger and to punish perceived stupidity) or
    2 – ‘Keep going no matter what, no matter how hard, you always win in the end” or
    3 – “You can’t change that, and don’t need to, just do better in the future.” or
    4 – “People think about you a lot less than you imagine, and generally better than you imagine, so don’t worry about it”. And those are things everyone probably needs to do. I don’t have the problem of ‘don’t take it personally’. I’m not agreeable enough to be affected by others. when they are wrong, only when I have been wrong. I have a lot of guilt about my occasionally losing tolerance for mortals and losing battle with my autism and hurting or disappointing people I care about; my divorce and one other relationship i should have handled better (i was very ill in both circumstances); underperforming for my investors. And the only one of those I can fix is my investors. cheers

  • The History of Genetic Replacement in Europe

    September 22nd, 2018 3:46 PM THE HISTORY OF GENETIC REPLACEMENT IN EUROPEGenetic Replacement Is The Norm Non-Africans mainly descend from the main successful out of Africa expansion at around 65 ka.

    • expands into central asia –

      “West Eurasians”

    —diverges into–
    divergence to some 50,000 years ago
    west eurasians and east asians.

    • and breeds with neanderthal –

      ends 45ka
      • expands into europe via –

        via Danubian(north) or Balkan (south) routes?
    • prospers into-

      “Cro Magnon” = “European early modern humans” (EEMH) 45-43ka (‘sturdy’)

    (- is bottlenecked by glacial maximum -)
    37-15ka

    • EEMH Evolves into: –

      “West European Hunter-Gatherer” (WHG). 15ka (‘gracile’)
      • Invaded and Replaced by —

        “Early European Farmers” (EEF) 9ka.

      • Invaded and Replaced by —

        Ancient North Eurasian (ANE) lineages from the Central Asian steppes.

    ======= The genetic history of Europe since the Upper Paleolithic is inseparable from that of wider Western Eurasia. By about 50,000 years ago (50 ka) a basal West Eurasian lineage had emerged (alongside a separate East Asian lineage) out of the undifferentiated “non-African” lineage of 70 ka.[3] The basal Western Eurasians were early exposed to significant Neanderthal admixture. Introgression of Neanderthal traits persisted in European populations into the present, affecting traits such as skin tone and hair color, height, sleeping patterns and mood.[4] European early modern humans (EEMH) lineages between 40 to 26 ka (Aurignacian) were still part of a large Western Eurasian “meta-population”, related to Central and Western Asian populations.[3] Divergence into genetically distinct sub-populations within Western Eurasia is a result of increased selection pressure and founder effects during the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM, Gravettian).[5] By the end of the LGM, after 20 ka, A Western European lineage, dubbed West European Hunter-Gatherer (WHG) emerges from the Solutrean refugium during the European Mesolithic.[6] These mesolithic hunter-gatherer cultures are substantially replaced in the Neolithic Revolution by the arrival of Early European Farmers (EEF) lineages derived from mesolithic populations of West Asia (Anatolia and the Caucasus).[7] In the European Bronze Age, there were again substantial population replacements in parts of Europe by the intrusion of Ancient North Eurasian (ANE) lineages from the Central Asian steppes. These population replacements are associated with the Beaker culture archaeologically and with the Indo-European expansion linguistically.[8] As a result of the population movements during the Mesolithic to Bronze Age, modern European populations are distinguished by their clinal differences in WHG, EEF and ANE ancestry.[9] Admixture rates varied geographically; in the late Neolithic, WHG ancestry in farmers in Hungary was at around 10%, in Germany around 25% and in Iberia as high as 50%.[10] Sardinians are characterized by almost pure derivation from EEF. The contribution of EEF is strongest in Mediterranean Europe, and declines towards northern and northeastern Europe, where WHG ancestry is stronger. ANE ancestry is found through throughout Europe, with maxima of about 20% found in Baltic people and Finns. WHG ancestry is also strongest in northeatern Europe, with contributions close to 50% found in the Baltic.[11] Ethnogenesis of the modern ethnic groups of Europe in the historical period is associated with numerous admixture events, primiarily those associated with the Roman Empire, and the Germanic and Norse, Slavic, Arab and Turkish expansions. ======= European early modern humans
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia European early modern humans (EEMH) in the context of the Upper Paleolithic in Europe refers to the early presence of anatomically modern humans in Europe. The term “early modern” is usually taken to include fossils of the Aurignacian, Gravettian, Solutrean and Magdalenian, extending throughout the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM), covering the period of roughly 45,000 to 15,000 years ago. The description as “modern” is used as contrasting with the “archaic” Neanderthals which lived in Europe during 300,000 to 40,000 years ago. The term EEMH is equivalent to Cro-Magnon Man, or Cro-Magnons, a term derived from the Cro-Magnon rock shelter in southwestern France, where the first EEMH were found in 1868. Louis Lartet (1869) proposed Homo sapiens fossilis as the systematic name for “Cro-Magnon Man”. W. K. Gregory (1921) proposed the subspecies name Homo sapiens cro-magnonensis. In literature published since the late 1990s, the term EEMH is generally preferred over the common name Cro-Magnon, which has no formal taxonomic status, as it refers neither to a species or subspecies nor to an archaeological phase or culture. The earliest known remains of EEMH can be dated to before 40,000 years ago (40 ka) with some certainty: those from Grotta del Cavallo in Italy, and from Kents Cavern in England, radiocarbon dated to 45–41 ka. A number of other early fossils are dated close to or just after 40ka, including fossils found in Romania (Peștera cu Oase, 42–37 ka) and Russia (Kostenki-14, 40–35 ka). The Siberian Ust’-Ishim man, dated to 45 ka, was not geographically found in Europe, and indeed is not part of the “Western Eurasian” genetic lineage, but intermediate between the Western Eurasian and East Asian lineages. The EEMH lineage in the European Mesolithic is also known as “West European Hunter-Gatherer” (WHG). These mesolithic hunter-gatherers emerge after the end of the LGM ca. 15 ka and are described as more gracile than the Upper Paleolithic Cro-Magnons. The WHG lineage survives in contemporary Europeans, albeit only as a minor contribution overwhelmed by the later Neolithic and Bronze Age migrations.

  • The History of Genetic Replacement in Europe

    September 22nd, 2018 3:46 PM THE HISTORY OF GENETIC REPLACEMENT IN EUROPEGenetic Replacement Is The Norm Non-Africans mainly descend from the main successful out of Africa expansion at around 65 ka.

    • expands into central asia –

      “West Eurasians”

    —diverges into–
    divergence to some 50,000 years ago
    west eurasians and east asians.

    • and breeds with neanderthal –

      ends 45ka
      • expands into europe via –

        via Danubian(north) or Balkan (south) routes?
    • prospers into-

      “Cro Magnon” = “European early modern humans” (EEMH) 45-43ka (‘sturdy’)

    (- is bottlenecked by glacial maximum -)
    37-15ka

    • EEMH Evolves into: –

      “West European Hunter-Gatherer” (WHG). 15ka (‘gracile’)
      • Invaded and Replaced by —

        “Early European Farmers” (EEF) 9ka.

      • Invaded and Replaced by —

        Ancient North Eurasian (ANE) lineages from the Central Asian steppes.

    ======= The genetic history of Europe since the Upper Paleolithic is inseparable from that of wider Western Eurasia. By about 50,000 years ago (50 ka) a basal West Eurasian lineage had emerged (alongside a separate East Asian lineage) out of the undifferentiated “non-African” lineage of 70 ka.[3] The basal Western Eurasians were early exposed to significant Neanderthal admixture. Introgression of Neanderthal traits persisted in European populations into the present, affecting traits such as skin tone and hair color, height, sleeping patterns and mood.[4] European early modern humans (EEMH) lineages between 40 to 26 ka (Aurignacian) were still part of a large Western Eurasian “meta-population”, related to Central and Western Asian populations.[3] Divergence into genetically distinct sub-populations within Western Eurasia is a result of increased selection pressure and founder effects during the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM, Gravettian).[5] By the end of the LGM, after 20 ka, A Western European lineage, dubbed West European Hunter-Gatherer (WHG) emerges from the Solutrean refugium during the European Mesolithic.[6] These mesolithic hunter-gatherer cultures are substantially replaced in the Neolithic Revolution by the arrival of Early European Farmers (EEF) lineages derived from mesolithic populations of West Asia (Anatolia and the Caucasus).[7] In the European Bronze Age, there were again substantial population replacements in parts of Europe by the intrusion of Ancient North Eurasian (ANE) lineages from the Central Asian steppes. These population replacements are associated with the Beaker culture archaeologically and with the Indo-European expansion linguistically.[8] As a result of the population movements during the Mesolithic to Bronze Age, modern European populations are distinguished by their clinal differences in WHG, EEF and ANE ancestry.[9] Admixture rates varied geographically; in the late Neolithic, WHG ancestry in farmers in Hungary was at around 10%, in Germany around 25% and in Iberia as high as 50%.[10] Sardinians are characterized by almost pure derivation from EEF. The contribution of EEF is strongest in Mediterranean Europe, and declines towards northern and northeastern Europe, where WHG ancestry is stronger. ANE ancestry is found through throughout Europe, with maxima of about 20% found in Baltic people and Finns. WHG ancestry is also strongest in northeatern Europe, with contributions close to 50% found in the Baltic.[11] Ethnogenesis of the modern ethnic groups of Europe in the historical period is associated with numerous admixture events, primiarily those associated with the Roman Empire, and the Germanic and Norse, Slavic, Arab and Turkish expansions. ======= European early modern humans
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia European early modern humans (EEMH) in the context of the Upper Paleolithic in Europe refers to the early presence of anatomically modern humans in Europe. The term “early modern” is usually taken to include fossils of the Aurignacian, Gravettian, Solutrean and Magdalenian, extending throughout the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM), covering the period of roughly 45,000 to 15,000 years ago. The description as “modern” is used as contrasting with the “archaic” Neanderthals which lived in Europe during 300,000 to 40,000 years ago. The term EEMH is equivalent to Cro-Magnon Man, or Cro-Magnons, a term derived from the Cro-Magnon rock shelter in southwestern France, where the first EEMH were found in 1868. Louis Lartet (1869) proposed Homo sapiens fossilis as the systematic name for “Cro-Magnon Man”. W. K. Gregory (1921) proposed the subspecies name Homo sapiens cro-magnonensis. In literature published since the late 1990s, the term EEMH is generally preferred over the common name Cro-Magnon, which has no formal taxonomic status, as it refers neither to a species or subspecies nor to an archaeological phase or culture. The earliest known remains of EEMH can be dated to before 40,000 years ago (40 ka) with some certainty: those from Grotta del Cavallo in Italy, and from Kents Cavern in England, radiocarbon dated to 45–41 ka. A number of other early fossils are dated close to or just after 40ka, including fossils found in Romania (Peștera cu Oase, 42–37 ka) and Russia (Kostenki-14, 40–35 ka). The Siberian Ust’-Ishim man, dated to 45 ka, was not geographically found in Europe, and indeed is not part of the “Western Eurasian” genetic lineage, but intermediate between the Western Eurasian and East Asian lineages. The EEMH lineage in the European Mesolithic is also known as “West European Hunter-Gatherer” (WHG). These mesolithic hunter-gatherers emerge after the end of the LGM ca. 15 ka and are described as more gracile than the Upper Paleolithic Cro-Magnons. The WHG lineage survives in contemporary Europeans, albeit only as a minor contribution overwhelmed by the later Neolithic and Bronze Age migrations.

  • THE HISTORY OF GENETIC REPLACEMENT IN EUROPE *Genetic Replacement Is The Norm* N

    THE HISTORY OF GENETIC REPLACEMENT IN EUROPE

    *Genetic Replacement Is The Norm*

    Non-Africans mainly descend from the main successful out of Africa expansion at around 65 ka.

    – expands into central asia –

    “West Eurasians”

    —diverges into–

    divergence to some 50,000 years ago

    west eurasians and east asians.

    – and breeds with neanderthal –

    ends 45ka

    – expands into europe via –

    via Danubian(north) or Balkan (south) routes?

    – prospers into-

    “Cro Magnon” = “European early modern humans” (EEMH) 45-43ka (‘sturdy’)

    (- is bottlenecked by glacial maximum -)

    37-15ka

    – EEMH Evolves into: –

    “West European Hunter-Gatherer” (WHG). 15ka (‘gracile’)

    – Invaded and Replaced by —

    “Early European Farmers” (EEF) 9ka.

    – Invaded and Replaced by —

    Ancient North Eurasian (ANE) lineages from the Central Asian steppes.

    =======

    The genetic history of Europe since the Upper Paleolithic is inseparable from that of wider Western Eurasia. By about 50,000 years ago (50 ka) a basal West Eurasian lineage had emerged (alongside a separate East Asian lineage) out of the undifferentiated “non-African” lineage of 70 ka.[3] The basal Western Eurasians were early exposed to significant Neanderthal admixture. Introgression of Neanderthal traits persisted in European populations into the present, affecting traits such as skin tone and hair color, height, sleeping patterns and mood.[4]

    European early modern humans (EEMH) lineages between 40 to 26 ka (Aurignacian) were still part of a large Western Eurasian “meta-population”, related to Central and Western Asian populations.[3] Divergence into genetically distinct sub-populations within Western Eurasia is a result of increased selection pressure and founder effects during the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM, Gravettian).[5] By the end of the LGM, after 20 ka, A Western European lineage, dubbed West European Hunter-Gatherer (WHG) emerges from the Solutrean refugium during the European Mesolithic.[6] These mesolithic hunter-gatherer cultures are substantially replaced in the Neolithic Revolution by the arrival of Early European Farmers (EEF) lineages derived from mesolithic populations of West Asia (Anatolia and the Caucasus).[7] In the European Bronze Age, there were again substantial population replacements in parts of Europe by the intrusion of Ancient North Eurasian (ANE) lineages from the Central Asian steppes. These population replacements are associated with the Beaker culture archaeologically and with the Indo-European expansion linguistically.[8]

    As a result of the population movements during the Mesolithic to Bronze Age, modern European populations are distinguished by their clinal differences in WHG, EEF and ANE ancestry.[9] Admixture rates varied geographically; in the late Neolithic, WHG ancestry in farmers in Hungary was at around 10%, in Germany around 25% and in Iberia as high as 50%.[10] Sardinians are characterized by almost pure derivation from EEF. The contribution of EEF is strongest in Mediterranean Europe, and declines towards northern and northeastern Europe, where WHG ancestry is stronger. ANE ancestry is found through throughout Europe, with maxima of about 20% found in Baltic people and Finns. WHG ancestry is also strongest in northeatern Europe, with contributions close to 50% found in the Baltic.[11] Ethnogenesis of the modern ethnic groups of Europe in the historical period is associated with numerous admixture events, primiarily those associated with the Roman Empire, and the Germanic and Norse, Slavic, Arab and Turkish expansions.

    =======

    European early modern humans

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    European early modern humans (EEMH) in the context of the Upper Paleolithic in Europe refers to the early presence of anatomically modern humans in Europe.

    The term “early modern” is usually taken to include fossils of the Aurignacian, Gravettian, Solutrean and Magdalenian, extending throughout the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM), covering the period of roughly 45,000 to 15,000 years ago.

    The description as “modern” is used as contrasting with the “archaic” Neanderthals which lived in Europe during 300,000 to 40,000 years ago.

    The term EEMH is equivalent to Cro-Magnon Man, or Cro-Magnons, a term derived from the Cro-Magnon rock shelter in southwestern France, where the first EEMH were found in 1868.

    Louis Lartet (1869) proposed Homo sapiens fossilis as the systematic name for “Cro-Magnon Man”. W. K. Gregory (1921) proposed the subspecies name Homo sapiens cro-magnonensis.

    In literature published since the late 1990s, the term EEMH is generally preferred over the common name Cro-Magnon, which has no formal taxonomic status, as it refers neither to a species or subspecies nor to an archaeological phase or culture.

    The earliest known remains of EEMH can be dated to before 40,000 years ago (40 ka) with some certainty: those from Grotta del Cavallo in Italy, and from Kents Cavern in England, radiocarbon dated to 45–41 ka.

    A number of other early fossils are dated close to or just after 40ka, including fossils found in Romania (Peștera cu Oase, 42–37 ka) and Russia (Kostenki-14, 40–35 ka).

    The Siberian Ust’-Ishim man, dated to 45 ka, was not geographically found in Europe, and indeed is not part of the “Western Eurasian” genetic lineage, but intermediate between the Western Eurasian and East Asian lineages.

    The EEMH lineage in the European Mesolithic is also known as “West European Hunter-Gatherer” (WHG).

    These mesolithic hunter-gatherers emerge after the end of the LGM ca. 15 ka and are described as more gracile than the Upper Paleolithic Cro-Magnons.

    The WHG lineage survives in contemporary Europeans, albeit only as a minor contribution overwhelmed by the later Neolithic and Bronze Age migrations.

    Source date (UTC): 2018-09-22 15:46:00 UTC

  • MY TAKEAWAY IS THAT THE LOSS OF THE HRAPPAN CIVILIZATION WAS EQUIVALENT IN DAMAG

    MY TAKEAWAY IS THAT THE LOSS OF THE HRAPPAN CIVILIZATION WAS EQUIVALENT IN DAMAGE TO THE MUSLIM CONQUEST.

    (China was wise to build her walls. We must imitate her leadership.)

    J R Updated Feb 4

    The first peoples in India were Austro-Asiatics who arrived 50,000 years ago. Their journey started in East Africa in what is Ethiopia.

    These are the same peoples living in the Andaman Islands, Papua New Guinea, and the Australian Aborigines.

    These peoples were able to use canoes and fishing to navigate the coastal waters and settled along islands from India to Australia – and their populations can be found along those islands today.

    Proto-Dravidians developed in India over about tens of thousands of years through the admixture of Austro-Asiatic, Indo-European, and Tibeto-Burmese DNA.

    They became an advanced urbane civilization based on agriculture and maritime trade, which was the largest by both land area, economy, and population in the ancient world.

    They formed the Indus Valley Civilization and later migrated to South India, and also South-East Asia.

    During this time, India continued to experience immigration from outside lands, and analysis of the Mehargh population shows that the from 7000 BCE to 2500 BCE the population had changed.

    As the Indus Valley were expert sea farers, and the early Austro-Asiatics were sea farers, my postulatation is that the proto-Dravidians had originated from the Austro-Asiatics.

    The Vedic Aryans on the other hand were land based, using the horse and chariot, metal working, and cattle husbandry. They originated from the central Eurasian steppe and came by way of Afghanistan to India.

    Even earlier then them, it is believed there was a migration Westward to Europe of the proto-Indo-Europeans, and the Vedics share many similarities linguistically, culturally, and religiously with Slavs, Celts, Greeks, and other early European peoples. This includes clans led by chiefs and priests/druids, soma and potions, nature worship, as well as common root words.

    Along the way, they left some of their cousins in Afghanistan. These cousins would become the Zorastrians, moved to Iran and formed the Persian Empire.

    The Zorastrians are more recently related to the Vedics and have even more commonalities like ritual fire, which Vedics called Yagna and Zorastrians called Yazna. Soma which the Zorastrians called Haoma, etc.

    However, the Zorastrians adopted a dualistic monotheism and discarded nature worship. They also added many ideas of their own innovation that are believed to have been borrowed by or influenced the Abrahamic religions including resurrection, good and evil, Satan, and armageddon – these concepts don’t exist in the Eastern religions.

    The Vedics kept everything of their past and added to it, eventually adding dualism, non-dualism, and qualified non-dualism into what would become the philosophy of Yoga.

    This philosophy of Yoga is believed to take its roots from the ancient Dravidian religion but developed further until it was distilled into a goal of immortality through Self realization which was to realize through union of absorption (Yoga) that the Universe comprised of two principles, a male principle, the transcendent formless God which was pure mind, pure existence, and pure bliss (sat chit ananda), and shakti or energy the female principle which through Maya or the capacity for dimensionality formed the entire Universe and gave birth to time and causality (karma). Through this realization, the small soul (jiva), can realize its identity with an absolute existence that is outside of time and therefore not subject to impermanence or decay, and through the purification of desires in the heart escapes the cycle of birth and death. Although the soul is immortal, due to it’s ignorance (avidya), at death its desires will lead it to take birth again and again, in various lokas (planes of existence), as per its deeds and merits which form the basis of future thoughts and actions (also karma).

    Free will exists but is not fully exercised because the soul is not entirely free from its causal nature.

    Therefore all beings take birth as a result of desire, except the perfected beings or divine incarnations (Avatars), which take birth with full knowledge of their divine nature for a higher purpose.

    This in a nutshell was the culmination of the Vedic philosophy that occurred by around 700 BCE.

    The Rig Veda’s later books start to delve into this area, but the earlier books are properly in the realm of nature worship.

    The Rig Veda makes few references to sea faring, but regularly refers to chariots, cattle, horses, and metal work.

    The frequency of their vocabulary references tells us their cultural milieu. They were aware of the ocean and the ships, but it was not an integral part of their daily life.

    However, sea faring was an integral part of the Dravidian way of life, and this is also why we suspect they are the original founders of the Indus Valley Civilization – which relied extensively on sea trading with Mesopotamia.

    Today studies have show that Indians, even isolated tribal populations, have a mix of DNAs from every part of the world notably Austro-Asiatic, Indo-European, and Mongoliod with a spectrum of variations between regional populations.

    The chronology seems to indicate that the mature civilization of Indus Valley was weakened by weather changes, especially drought and the decline of major rivers that were glacier fed. These glaciers formed in the last ice age that ended around 10,000 BCE and held in the Himalayas vast stores of water. As they retreated, they fed glacial streams and rivers, which gave steady supply of drinking quality water to the Indus river basin, that was further enriched by the monsoon rains.

    The Himalayas are huge and glaciers appear to have provided water for several thousand years but eventually the rivers start to dry up, and the entire way of life that depends on them is now facing uncertainty with droughts becoming common and many cities being abandoned. Some key cities remain but only a fraction of what existed before.

    At this time, the nomadic Vedics arrive and are attracted by wealth of the Indus cities and appear to be in a conflict.

    The Vedics have the advantage of the horse and the archer. The Indus Valley had no horses but they may have had the ass or donkey. The horse does not appear in any seal – although there is one disputed seal that could be a small horse.

    The Vedic hymns describe chargers, coursers, steeds very frequently – large, fast and powerful horses. If Indus Valley was the same as the Rig Vedics, they would have had many artifacts of horses. Whereas many animals are found, horse is notably absent.

    The horse is originally from the central Eurasian steppe, so it would make sense that the people coming from that area have the horse before anyone else.

    After taking over these cities, the Vedics seem to realize that the Indus Valley was very advanced, and have soon adopted their ideas and philosophy.

    By the time, we get into the late Rig Veda, they are no longer roving barbarians seeking spoils and treasure, but have mellowed out quite a bit.

    They have now adopted and integrated with the Indus religion and culture. Also, they may have taken Dravidian wives. The later Rig Veda starts to show the pre-cursors of Upanishadic thinking.

    The creation hymn Nasadiya Sukta – considered to be one of the newest hymns – is a completely different form of thinking than the incantations of the early Vedic hymns.

    This is so different that we have to suspect these ideas are coming from the proto-Dravidian religion and have developed further similar to the Hellenistic syncretism that occurs 500 years later.

    Source date (UTC): 2018-09-22 12:49:00 UTC

  • September 22nd, 2018 12:49 PM MY TAKEAWAY IS THAT THE LOSS OF THE HRAPPAN CIVILI

    September 22nd, 2018 12:49 PM MY TAKEAWAY IS THAT THE LOSS OF THE HRAPPAN CIVILIZATION WAS EQUIVALENT IN DAMAGE TO THE MUSLIM CONQUEST. (China was wise to build her walls. We must imitate her leadership.) J R Updated Feb 4 The first peoples in India were Austro-Asiatics who arrived 50,000 years ago. Their journey started in East Africa in what is Ethiopia. These are the same peoples living in the Andaman Islands, Papua New Guinea, and the Australian Aborigines. These peoples were able to use canoes and fishing to navigate the coastal waters and settled along islands from India to Australia – and their populations can be found along those islands today. Proto-Dravidians developed in India over about tens of thousands of years through the admixture of Austro-Asiatic, Indo-European, and Tibeto-Burmese DNA. They became an advanced urbane civilization based on agriculture and maritime trade, which was the largest by both land area, economy, and population in the ancient world. They formed the Indus Valley Civilization and later migrated to South India, and also South-East Asia. During this time, India continued to experience immigration from outside lands, and analysis of the Mehargh population shows that the from 7000 BCE to 2500 BCE the population had changed. As the Indus Valley were expert sea farers, and the early Austro-Asiatics were sea farers, my postulatation is that the proto-Dravidians had originated from the Austro-Asiatics. The Vedic Aryans on the other hand were land based, using the horse and chariot, metal working, and cattle husbandry. They originated from the central Eurasian steppe and came by way of Afghanistan to India. Even earlier then them, it is believed there was a migration Westward to Europe of the proto-Indo-Europeans, and the Vedics share many similarities linguistically, culturally, and religiously with Slavs, Celts, Greeks, and other early European peoples. This includes clans led by chiefs and priests/druids, soma and potions, nature worship, as well as common root words. Along the way, they left some of their cousins in Afghanistan. These cousins would become the Zorastrians, moved to Iran and formed the Persian Empire. The Zorastrians are more recently related to the Vedics and have even more commonalities like ritual fire, which Vedics called Yagna and Zorastrians called Yazna. Soma which the Zorastrians called Haoma, etc. However, the Zorastrians adopted a dualistic monotheism and discarded nature worship. They also added many ideas of their own innovation that are believed to have been borrowed by or influenced the Abrahamic religions including resurrection, good and evil, Satan, and armageddon – these concepts don’t exist in the Eastern religions. The Vedics kept everything of their past and added to it, eventually adding dualism, non-dualism, and qualified non-dualism into what would become the philosophy of Yoga. This philosophy of Yoga is believed to take its roots from the ancient Dravidian religion but developed further until it was distilled into a goal of immortality through Self realization which was to realize through union of absorption (Yoga) that the Universe comprised of two principles, a male principle, the transcendent formless God which was pure mind, pure existence, and pure bliss (sat chit ananda), and shakti or energy the female principle which through Maya or the capacity for dimensionality formed the entire Universe and gave birth to time and causality (karma). Through this realization, the small soul (jiva), can realize its identity with an absolute existence that is outside of time and therefore not subject to impermanence or decay, and through the purification of desires in the heart escapes the cycle of birth and death. Although the soul is immortal, due to it’s ignorance (avidya), at death its desires will lead it to take birth again and again, in various lokas (planes of existence), as per its deeds and merits which form the basis of future thoughts and actions (also karma). Free will exists but is not fully exercised because the soul is not entirely free from its causal nature. Therefore all beings take birth as a result of desire, except the perfected beings or divine incarnations (Avatars), which take birth with full knowledge of their divine nature for a higher purpose. This in a nutshell was the culmination of the Vedic philosophy that occurred by around 700 BCE. The Rig Veda’s later books start to delve into this area, but the earlier books are properly in the realm of nature worship. The Rig Veda makes few references to sea faring, but regularly refers to chariots, cattle, horses, and metal work. The frequency of their vocabulary references tells us their cultural milieu. They were aware of the ocean and the ships, but it was not an integral part of their daily life. However, sea faring was an integral part of the Dravidian way of life, and this is also why we suspect they are the original founders of the Indus Valley Civilization – which relied extensively on sea trading with Mesopotamia. Today studies have show that Indians, even isolated tribal populations, have a mix of DNAs from every part of the world notably Austro-Asiatic, Indo-European, and Mongoliod with a spectrum of variations between regional populations. The chronology seems to indicate that the mature civilization of Indus Valley was weakened by weather changes, especially drought and the decline of major rivers that were glacier fed. These glaciers formed in the last ice age that ended around 10,000 BCE and held in the Himalayas vast stores of water. As they retreated, they fed glacial streams and rivers, which gave steady supply of drinking quality water to the Indus river basin, that was further enriched by the monsoon rains. The Himalayas are huge and glaciers appear to have provided water for several thousand years but eventually the rivers start to dry up, and the entire way of life that depends on them is now facing uncertainty with droughts becoming common and many cities being abandoned. Some key cities remain but only a fraction of what existed before. At this time, the nomadic Vedics arrive and are attracted by wealth of the Indus cities and appear to be in a conflict. The Vedics have the advantage of the horse and the archer. The Indus Valley had no horses but they may have had the ass or donkey. The horse does not appear in any seal – although there is one disputed seal that could be a small horse. The Vedic hymns describe chargers, coursers, steeds very frequently – large, fast and powerful horses. If Indus Valley was the same as the Rig Vedics, they would have had many artifacts of horses. Whereas many animals are found, horse is notably absent. The horse is originally from the central Eurasian steppe, so it would make sense that the people coming from that area have the horse before anyone else. After taking over these cities, the Vedics seem to realize that the Indus Valley was very advanced, and have soon adopted their ideas and philosophy. By the time, we get into the late Rig Veda, they are no longer roving barbarians seeking spoils and treasure, but have mellowed out quite a bit. They have now adopted and integrated with the Indus religion and culture. Also, they may have taken Dravidian wives. The later Rig Veda starts to show the pre-cursors of Upanishadic thinking. The creation hymn Nasadiya Sukta – considered to be one of the newest hymns – is a completely different form of thinking than the incantations of the early Vedic hymns. This is so different that we have to suspect these ideas are coming from the proto-Dravidian religion and have developed further similar to the Hellenistic syncretism that occurs 500 years later.

  • September 22nd, 2018 12:49 PM MY TAKEAWAY IS THAT THE LOSS OF THE HRAPPAN CIVILI

    September 22nd, 2018 12:49 PM MY TAKEAWAY IS THAT THE LOSS OF THE HRAPPAN CIVILIZATION WAS EQUIVALENT IN DAMAGE TO THE MUSLIM CONQUEST. (China was wise to build her walls. We must imitate her leadership.) J R Updated Feb 4 The first peoples in India were Austro-Asiatics who arrived 50,000 years ago. Their journey started in East Africa in what is Ethiopia. These are the same peoples living in the Andaman Islands, Papua New Guinea, and the Australian Aborigines. These peoples were able to use canoes and fishing to navigate the coastal waters and settled along islands from India to Australia – and their populations can be found along those islands today. Proto-Dravidians developed in India over about tens of thousands of years through the admixture of Austro-Asiatic, Indo-European, and Tibeto-Burmese DNA. They became an advanced urbane civilization based on agriculture and maritime trade, which was the largest by both land area, economy, and population in the ancient world. They formed the Indus Valley Civilization and later migrated to South India, and also South-East Asia. During this time, India continued to experience immigration from outside lands, and analysis of the Mehargh population shows that the from 7000 BCE to 2500 BCE the population had changed. As the Indus Valley were expert sea farers, and the early Austro-Asiatics were sea farers, my postulatation is that the proto-Dravidians had originated from the Austro-Asiatics. The Vedic Aryans on the other hand were land based, using the horse and chariot, metal working, and cattle husbandry. They originated from the central Eurasian steppe and came by way of Afghanistan to India. Even earlier then them, it is believed there was a migration Westward to Europe of the proto-Indo-Europeans, and the Vedics share many similarities linguistically, culturally, and religiously with Slavs, Celts, Greeks, and other early European peoples. This includes clans led by chiefs and priests/druids, soma and potions, nature worship, as well as common root words. Along the way, they left some of their cousins in Afghanistan. These cousins would become the Zorastrians, moved to Iran and formed the Persian Empire. The Zorastrians are more recently related to the Vedics and have even more commonalities like ritual fire, which Vedics called Yagna and Zorastrians called Yazna. Soma which the Zorastrians called Haoma, etc. However, the Zorastrians adopted a dualistic monotheism and discarded nature worship. They also added many ideas of their own innovation that are believed to have been borrowed by or influenced the Abrahamic religions including resurrection, good and evil, Satan, and armageddon – these concepts don’t exist in the Eastern religions. The Vedics kept everything of their past and added to it, eventually adding dualism, non-dualism, and qualified non-dualism into what would become the philosophy of Yoga. This philosophy of Yoga is believed to take its roots from the ancient Dravidian religion but developed further until it was distilled into a goal of immortality through Self realization which was to realize through union of absorption (Yoga) that the Universe comprised of two principles, a male principle, the transcendent formless God which was pure mind, pure existence, and pure bliss (sat chit ananda), and shakti or energy the female principle which through Maya or the capacity for dimensionality formed the entire Universe and gave birth to time and causality (karma). Through this realization, the small soul (jiva), can realize its identity with an absolute existence that is outside of time and therefore not subject to impermanence or decay, and through the purification of desires in the heart escapes the cycle of birth and death. Although the soul is immortal, due to it’s ignorance (avidya), at death its desires will lead it to take birth again and again, in various lokas (planes of existence), as per its deeds and merits which form the basis of future thoughts and actions (also karma). Free will exists but is not fully exercised because the soul is not entirely free from its causal nature. Therefore all beings take birth as a result of desire, except the perfected beings or divine incarnations (Avatars), which take birth with full knowledge of their divine nature for a higher purpose. This in a nutshell was the culmination of the Vedic philosophy that occurred by around 700 BCE. The Rig Veda’s later books start to delve into this area, but the earlier books are properly in the realm of nature worship. The Rig Veda makes few references to sea faring, but regularly refers to chariots, cattle, horses, and metal work. The frequency of their vocabulary references tells us their cultural milieu. They were aware of the ocean and the ships, but it was not an integral part of their daily life. However, sea faring was an integral part of the Dravidian way of life, and this is also why we suspect they are the original founders of the Indus Valley Civilization – which relied extensively on sea trading with Mesopotamia. Today studies have show that Indians, even isolated tribal populations, have a mix of DNAs from every part of the world notably Austro-Asiatic, Indo-European, and Mongoliod with a spectrum of variations between regional populations. The chronology seems to indicate that the mature civilization of Indus Valley was weakened by weather changes, especially drought and the decline of major rivers that were glacier fed. These glaciers formed in the last ice age that ended around 10,000 BCE and held in the Himalayas vast stores of water. As they retreated, they fed glacial streams and rivers, which gave steady supply of drinking quality water to the Indus river basin, that was further enriched by the monsoon rains. The Himalayas are huge and glaciers appear to have provided water for several thousand years but eventually the rivers start to dry up, and the entire way of life that depends on them is now facing uncertainty with droughts becoming common and many cities being abandoned. Some key cities remain but only a fraction of what existed before. At this time, the nomadic Vedics arrive and are attracted by wealth of the Indus cities and appear to be in a conflict. The Vedics have the advantage of the horse and the archer. The Indus Valley had no horses but they may have had the ass or donkey. The horse does not appear in any seal – although there is one disputed seal that could be a small horse. The Vedic hymns describe chargers, coursers, steeds very frequently – large, fast and powerful horses. If Indus Valley was the same as the Rig Vedics, they would have had many artifacts of horses. Whereas many animals are found, horse is notably absent. The horse is originally from the central Eurasian steppe, so it would make sense that the people coming from that area have the horse before anyone else. After taking over these cities, the Vedics seem to realize that the Indus Valley was very advanced, and have soon adopted their ideas and philosophy. By the time, we get into the late Rig Veda, they are no longer roving barbarians seeking spoils and treasure, but have mellowed out quite a bit. They have now adopted and integrated with the Indus religion and culture. Also, they may have taken Dravidian wives. The later Rig Veda starts to show the pre-cursors of Upanishadic thinking. The creation hymn Nasadiya Sukta – considered to be one of the newest hymns – is a completely different form of thinking than the incantations of the early Vedic hymns. This is so different that we have to suspect these ideas are coming from the proto-Dravidian religion and have developed further similar to the Hellenistic syncretism that occurs 500 years later.

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    photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/42222156_10156653187192264_728773379384934400_o_10156653187182264.jpg THE CORRECT ANSWER

    (a) genetics (we have higher neoteny), (b) homogeneity developed low clannishness although we maintain high disgust sensitivity, (c) commercial societies develop liberalism since everyone is a customer for either marriage, cooperation, business, or politics (d) christianity pushed universalism in there as well which caused the really bad consequences (e) WORSE women cause the openness to suicide by immigration. Men have voted consistently against it. So OUR WOMEN WERE RECRUITED AND DEFECTED JUST AS THEY DID UNDER CHRISTIANITY.David HughesLack of balls?Sep 21, 2018, 4:03 PMIvan AlleyNot saying you are wrong but :(Sep 21, 2018, 4:04 PMCurt DoolittleI don’t make mistakes. it’s my job. 😉 lolSep 21, 2018, 4:04 PMJamie RobinsonOur willingness to go along as long as we can. When we stop. the whole worlds gonna know it.Sep 21, 2018, 4:06 PMCurt DoolittleyepSep 21, 2018, 4:06 PMChristopher IvančićThey have lost control of their nations to foreign entities that work against their best interests?Sep 21, 2018, 4:17 PMDane ClumA) what does neoteny have to do with it?Sep 21, 2018, 4:19 PMGiego CaleiroNope. https://kbimages1-a.akamaihd.net/4cf57842-4bb4-4fe9-a645-9aa9412865a9/1200/1200/False/the-secret-of-our-success.jpgSep 21, 2018, 4:19 PMGiego Caleirochildren are more friendly to new things, and more into play than into war.Sep 21, 2018, 4:20 PMCurt DoolittleAgain. I don’t make mistakes. it’s my job. 😉 lolSep 21, 2018, 4:22 PMJoseph L. DiekhoffI think its reducible to the fact that almost anyone with a brain is susceptable to MK ultra mind programming. Especially if they dont know or refuse to believe its happening to them on a daily basis.Sep 21, 2018, 4:25 PMDane ClumAre there multiple definitions of this word? I’m seeing neoteny in humans results in physical traits such as x,y,z….Sep 21, 2018, 4:30 PMStephen FlowersThe impulse to fairness, kindness and so on is part of the Indo-European way. It myst be managed with WISDOM. Left unchecked it becomes suicidal, ignored it ends in criminal excess like the world has never known before. Mastery of moderation is a difficult path.Sep 21, 2018, 4:57 PMGiego Caleironeoteny means you become an adult while retaining characteristics of non adults. Humans are more neotenous than chimps. Dogs more than foxes.

    Also works in the brain.Sep 21, 2018, 4:59 PMGiego Caleiro(b) Is false, as per the book above, and the Hajnal line, are a result of the anti-cousing fucking policies of Christianity in the 16th century and onwards. Do you even HBD chick bra?

    (d) Stop blaming christianity, which created everything you love, for your problems.

    Entropy + technology that reduces distance of memetic transmission can make the world a stinking pile of shit mighty fine on their own. Christianity didn’t do it.Sep 21, 2018, 5:03 PMGiego CaleiroAs I said before, Christianity is what created the civilization you love.

    No truth can make Aryan women have 2.1 kids or more. No country based off truth ever did it.

    But Jesus Christ and Joseph Smith both did.

    If you sustain your anti-christian standard of aspie “truth” in the face of that…. well…..

    then you’re just another Islamist in diguise

    😎Sep 21, 2018, 5:05 PMJoe Boyumfree willSep 21, 2018, 5:09 PMChristopher IvančićChristianity made women want to have babies.Sep 21, 2018, 5:15 PMGiego Caleiromhm…Sep 21, 2018, 5:15 PMChristopher IvančićGiego Caleiro The destruction of it not itself is the reason why civilization is in decline… atheists hate to admit this.Sep 21, 2018, 5:16 PMCroib MagaHigher neoteny than who???Sep 21, 2018, 5:16 PMGiego CaleiroThat’s pushing it a little. But it’s closer to the truth than what our friend Curt here likes to tell :pSep 21, 2018, 5:17 PMGiego Caleiroarabs, africans, abos, pygmis, etc.. everyone but east asians.Sep 21, 2018, 5:18 PMCroib MagaArabs? Pygmies? I’ll give you abos and BantusSep 21, 2018, 5:19 PMChristopher IvančićThese guys are going to end up making a new religion at the end.. because of their fear of ‘Jesus Smuggling’Sep 21, 2018, 5:19 PMBrandon HayesYou may be discounting economic incentives too heavily.Sep 21, 2018, 5:19 PMChristopher IvančićBrandon Hayes maybe.. economy in Europe was in shambles after the war.. but it didn’t stop the baby boomSep 21, 2018, 5:25 PMMurphy CellWhat if you redirected pathological altruism towards ones own kind?Sep 21, 2018, 5:35 PMEric GroseMurphy Cell then your kind would winSep 21, 2018, 5:54 PMDax RaynerHave other ethnicities around the world who adopted christianity had similar self-inflicted detrimental effects on protectionism of their culture and lines?Sep 21, 2018, 6:13 PMNick DahlheimCurt Doolittle for Pope. LolSep 21, 2018, 6:59 PMLan KenThere is only one God (to me) and Joseph Smith is his prophet.Sep 21, 2018, 7:40 PMMitch TwerskyIt was something Eisenhower said to Patton. Then it all went downhill.Sep 21, 2018, 7:43 PMDane ClumEverything I’ve read thusfar on neoteny relates to physical traits, and not behavioral characteristics. But for the sake of argument, let’s just say we aren’t using the scientific definition of the word. You are saying that white adults exhibit childlike behavior more so than other races do. What evidence of this is there?Sep 22, 2018, 12:26 AMIgor RogovThe downside of habitual out – group cooperation (with long periods in history when it was a strategy to survive and advance), which requires random acts of altruism and forgiveness to a complete stranger. How this is fixed on a genetic level would be very interesting to find out.Sep 22, 2018, 12:28 AMGiego Caleirohair, feminility, childplay, science.

    Read boook “The eternal child”

    I’m a scientist in the area, by the way. my adviser came up with some of the anacronic developmnet labels that are less famous than neoteny.Sep 22, 2018, 12:28 AMDane ClumIn my life experience I’ve found whites to behave in a more mature manner than other groups. I’ve also observed latin and asian women to be considerably more feminine than white women. Are there any articles or studies you can link me to backing up the claim that white adults are more childlike in behavior? Honestly, I’m not going to go out and get the eternal child…Sep 22, 2018, 12:38 AMDane ClumB is essentially saying that homogeneous societies lead to heterogeneous societies… no?Sep 22, 2018, 1:52 AMDane ClumC) commercial societies develop wealth and order, which leads to comfort and openness, and reduces the need for self preservation. The incoming population desires the high living standard while the host population whittles away.Sep 22, 2018, 1:58 AMDane ClumE) what is not mentioned is why WHITE women have been targeted by pulling on their heart strings, while it hasn’t happened to women of other races. To me it makes more sense to say: White people have higher empathy, and women have higher empathy than men, and lower awareness of the threats posed by incoming populations. Therefore, this current situation is a reflection of white societies empowering women in the sphere of politics to a much larger degree than other societies.Sep 22, 2018, 2:16 AMZen-o LechanceI think people are being manipulated by social pressure, to be so altruistic that they lose their identity… And I believe that is the motive behind all this sjw crap, it’s just the way to dehumanize us, that way we’ll be easier to control … and control our mindsSep 22, 2018, 9:28 AMZen-o LechanceI don’t think you can direct pathological altruism to your own kind because it would not be altruism if it would benefit youSep 22, 2018, 9:30 AMMurphy CellZen-o Lechance lol that’s ridiculous.Sep 22, 2018, 10:00 AMCurt DoolittleKin selection isn’t altruism.Sep 22, 2018, 10:35 AMMurphy CellCurt Doolittle is altruism bad?Sep 22, 2018, 10:45 AMWyatt StorchPut your kids in an institution at an age where narcissistic defense strategies are the only means of survival.

    Observe.Sep 22, 2018, 11:08 AMCurt DoolittleMurphy Cell it doesn’t exist.Sep 22, 2018, 11:17 AMCurt DoolittleNowhere in nature can we find it that isn’t self interest or kin selection.Sep 22, 2018, 11:18 AMCurt DoolittleAnd kin seletion is self interset.Sep 22, 2018, 11:18 AMMurphy CellCurt Doolittle self sacrifice doesn’t exist? Do morals exist? Not trying to challenge you here, just want you’re perspective.Sep 22, 2018, 11:21 AMCurt DoolittleSeriously, we cannot find any altruism in nature (it would be dangerous) that is not in self interest. When people act altruistically they are just buying options on future cooperation, and we evolved to have very clear perceptions of status (we are hardwired in the brain to calculate status) and so, we do what we can to increase or defend it. It’s not complicated.Sep 22, 2018, 11:24 AMCurt DoolittleA person who acts morally is buying insurance. The cumulative effect is a good thing. The more the better. The less the worst.

    Women have this in spades so it’s a freaking disease if its not controlled in them.Sep 22, 2018, 11:25 AMEric GroseCurt Doolittle are white women worse (or better) about this than other races?Sep 22, 2018, 11:27 AMMurphy CellCurt Doolittle I don’t know about that. Acting morally today can get you doxed, alienated from family and loved ones. Even discussing things that are “morally good” in the classical context can get you unpersoned on social networking. Acting morally can even get you thrown in prison today. I think there is a difference though between doing what is right and doing what is good. Doing what is right can require one to do something morally bad and doing good can lead to ones own death. So I think there is a tiny gray area between this cosmic “yin and yang” That allows for some flexibility. I don’t think a parent loves and sacrifices for their children out of the expectation that they’ll somehow get something in return. If that’s how someone looks at parenting then they are most likely just sociopathic no? Definitely not in regards to parenting in nature since existence is marginal at best. What does a bear get out of raising offspring that will simply take away more resources for them in the long run? So this impulse for altruism is rooted in instinct. Or am I in over my head?Sep 22, 2018, 11:44 AMRobert Radulescuhttps://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/11537306?ncid=engmodushpmg00000003Sep 22, 2018, 1:25 PMLori Alayne Weber MillerAsians have greater neoteny.Sep 22, 2018, 2:23 PMLori Alayne Weber MillerNothing, East Asians have more.Sep 22, 2018, 2:25 PMLori Alayne Weber MillerSame reason Jesus hung with prostitutes and tax collectors The physician is for the sick.Sep 22, 2018, 2:28 PMLori Alayne Weber MillerThis woman votes against open borders.Sep 22, 2018, 2:29 PMLori Alayne Weber MillerLiberals also not really Caucasian. They just play Caucasian’s on TV.Sep 22, 2018, 2:30 PMLori Alayne Weber MillerWhich means yes it is Christianity.Sep 22, 2018, 2:31 PMLori Alayne Weber MillerWyatt Storch good point.Sep 22, 2018, 2:32 PMLori Alayne Weber MillerChristopher Ivančić actually the feminist ideology that being a mother and wanting to raise and nurture your children at home is betraying your gender and the only good woman with a voice in politics is a barren CEO PHD that shouts her abortion triumphantly as victory over the patriarchy.Sep 22, 2018, 2:37 PMSimon Nick TemplarIf you could please stop before I’m old that would be great.Sep 22, 2018, 2:52 PMGiego CaleiroIf you think Joseph Smith is his prophet, and you care about the west, you’ll love my writing Lance…… Also add me on facebook: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yw3-NZtD3nBilegQYnjdmUIRzRTn3njn3CwtKbI62Qc/edit#Sep 22, 2018, 3:46 PMLan KenKyle WahlquistSep 24, 2018, 2:57 PMJim YankowskyMy people come first, good luck everybody else…Sep 24, 2018, 6:06 PMKyle WahlquistInteresting statement. Anyone know where I can get some of the source data these arguments derive from?Sep 24, 2018, 7:45 PMLan Kenask CurtSep 24, 2018, 8:28 PMTHE CORRECT ANSWER

    (a) genetics (we have higher neoteny), (b) homogeneity developed low clannishness although we maintain high disgust sensitivity, (c) commercial societies develop liberalism since everyone is a customer for either marriage, cooperation, business, or politics (d) christianity pushed universalism in there as well which caused the really bad consequences (e) WORSE women cause the openness to suicide by immigration. Men have voted consistently against it. So OUR WOMEN WERE RECRUITED AND DEFECTED JUST AS THEY DID UNDER CHRISTIANITY.

    Source date (UTC): 2018-09-21 16:01:00 UTC

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    photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/42222156_10156653187192264_728773379384934400_o_10156653187182264.jpg THE CORRECT ANSWER

    (a) genetics (we have higher neoteny), (b) homogeneity developed low clannishness although we maintain high disgust sensitivity, (c) commercial societies develop liberalism since everyone is a customer for either marriage, cooperation, business, or politics (d) christianity pushed universalism in there as well which caused the really bad consequences (e) WORSE women cause the openness to suicide by immigration. Men have voted consistently against it. So OUR WOMEN WERE RECRUITED AND DEFECTED JUST AS THEY DID UNDER CHRISTIANITY.David HughesLack of balls?Sep 21, 2018, 4:03 PMIvan AlleyNot saying you are wrong but :(Sep 21, 2018, 4:04 PMCurt DoolittleI don’t make mistakes. it’s my job. 😉 lolSep 21, 2018, 4:04 PMJamie RobinsonOur willingness to go along as long as we can. When we stop. the whole worlds gonna know it.Sep 21, 2018, 4:06 PMCurt DoolittleyepSep 21, 2018, 4:06 PMChristopher IvančićThey have lost control of their nations to foreign entities that work against their best interests?Sep 21, 2018, 4:17 PMDane ClumA) what does neoteny have to do with it?Sep 21, 2018, 4:19 PMGiego CaleiroNope. https://kbimages1-a.akamaihd.net/4cf57842-4bb4-4fe9-a645-9aa9412865a9/1200/1200/False/the-secret-of-our-success.jpgSep 21, 2018, 4:19 PMGiego Caleirochildren are more friendly to new things, and more into play than into war.Sep 21, 2018, 4:20 PMCurt DoolittleAgain. I don’t make mistakes. it’s my job. 😉 lolSep 21, 2018, 4:22 PMJoseph L. DiekhoffI think its reducible to the fact that almost anyone with a brain is susceptable to MK ultra mind programming. Especially if they dont know or refuse to believe its happening to them on a daily basis.Sep 21, 2018, 4:25 PMDane ClumAre there multiple definitions of this word? I’m seeing neoteny in humans results in physical traits such as x,y,z….Sep 21, 2018, 4:30 PMStephen FlowersThe impulse to fairness, kindness and so on is part of the Indo-European way. It myst be managed with WISDOM. Left unchecked it becomes suicidal, ignored it ends in criminal excess like the world has never known before. Mastery of moderation is a difficult path.Sep 21, 2018, 4:57 PMGiego Caleironeoteny means you become an adult while retaining characteristics of non adults. Humans are more neotenous than chimps. Dogs more than foxes.

    Also works in the brain.Sep 21, 2018, 4:59 PMGiego Caleiro(b) Is false, as per the book above, and the Hajnal line, are a result of the anti-cousing fucking policies of Christianity in the 16th century and onwards. Do you even HBD chick bra?

    (d) Stop blaming christianity, which created everything you love, for your problems.

    Entropy + technology that reduces distance of memetic transmission can make the world a stinking pile of shit mighty fine on their own. Christianity didn’t do it.Sep 21, 2018, 5:03 PMGiego CaleiroAs I said before, Christianity is what created the civilization you love.

    No truth can make Aryan women have 2.1 kids or more. No country based off truth ever did it.

    But Jesus Christ and Joseph Smith both did.

    If you sustain your anti-christian standard of aspie “truth” in the face of that…. well…..

    then you’re just another Islamist in diguise

    😎Sep 21, 2018, 5:05 PMJoe Boyumfree willSep 21, 2018, 5:09 PMChristopher IvančićChristianity made women want to have babies.Sep 21, 2018, 5:15 PMGiego Caleiromhm…Sep 21, 2018, 5:15 PMChristopher IvančićGiego Caleiro The destruction of it not itself is the reason why civilization is in decline… atheists hate to admit this.Sep 21, 2018, 5:16 PMCroib MagaHigher neoteny than who???Sep 21, 2018, 5:16 PMGiego CaleiroThat’s pushing it a little. But it’s closer to the truth than what our friend Curt here likes to tell :pSep 21, 2018, 5:17 PMGiego Caleiroarabs, africans, abos, pygmis, etc.. everyone but east asians.Sep 21, 2018, 5:18 PMCroib MagaArabs? Pygmies? I’ll give you abos and BantusSep 21, 2018, 5:19 PMChristopher IvančićThese guys are going to end up making a new religion at the end.. because of their fear of ‘Jesus Smuggling’Sep 21, 2018, 5:19 PMBrandon HayesYou may be discounting economic incentives too heavily.Sep 21, 2018, 5:19 PMChristopher IvančićBrandon Hayes maybe.. economy in Europe was in shambles after the war.. but it didn’t stop the baby boomSep 21, 2018, 5:25 PMMurphy CellWhat if you redirected pathological altruism towards ones own kind?Sep 21, 2018, 5:35 PMEric GroseMurphy Cell then your kind would winSep 21, 2018, 5:54 PMDax RaynerHave other ethnicities around the world who adopted christianity had similar self-inflicted detrimental effects on protectionism of their culture and lines?Sep 21, 2018, 6:13 PMNick DahlheimCurt Doolittle for Pope. LolSep 21, 2018, 6:59 PMLance KennedyThere is only one God (to me) and Joseph Smith is his prophet.Sep 21, 2018, 7:40 PMMitch TwerskyIt was something Eisenhower said to Patton. Then it all went downhill.Sep 21, 2018, 7:43 PMDane ClumEverything I’ve read thusfar on neoteny relates to physical traits, and not behavioral characteristics. But for the sake of argument, let’s just say we aren’t using the scientific definition of the word. You are saying that white adults exhibit childlike behavior more so than other races do. What evidence of this is there?Sep 22, 2018, 12:26 AMIgor RogovThe downside of habitual out – group cooperation (with long periods in history when it was a strategy to survive and advance), which requires random acts of altruism and forgiveness to a complete stranger. How this is fixed on a genetic level would be very interesting to find out.Sep 22, 2018, 12:28 AMGiego Caleirohair, feminility, childplay, science.

    Read boook “The eternal child”

    I’m a scientist in the area, by the way. my adviser came up with some of the anacronic developmnet labels that are less famous than neoteny.Sep 22, 2018, 12:28 AMDane ClumIn my life experience I’ve found whites to behave in a more mature manner than other groups. I’ve also observed latin and asian women to be considerably more feminine than white women. Are there any articles or studies you can link me to backing up the claim that white adults are more childlike in behavior? Honestly, I’m not going to go out and get the eternal child…Sep 22, 2018, 12:38 AMDane ClumB is essentially saying that homogeneous societies lead to heterogeneous societies… no?Sep 22, 2018, 1:52 AMDane ClumC) commercial societies develop wealth and order, which leads to comfort and openness, and reduces the need for self preservation. The incoming population desires the high living standard while the host population whittles away.Sep 22, 2018, 1:58 AMDane ClumE) what is not mentioned is why WHITE women have been targeted by pulling on their heart strings, while it hasn’t happened to women of other races. To me it makes more sense to say: White people have higher empathy, and women have higher empathy than men, and lower awareness of the threats posed by incoming populations. Therefore, this current situation is a reflection of white societies empowering women in the sphere of politics to a much larger degree than other societies.Sep 22, 2018, 2:16 AMZen-o LechanceI think people are being manipulated by social pressure, to be so altruistic that they lose their identity… And I believe that is the motive behind all this sjw crap, it’s just the way to dehumanize us, that way we’ll be easier to control … and control our mindsSep 22, 2018, 9:28 AMZen-o LechanceI don’t think you can direct pathological altruism to your own kind because it would not be altruism if it would benefit youSep 22, 2018, 9:30 AMMurphy CellZen-o Lechance lol that’s ridiculous.Sep 22, 2018, 10:00 AMCurt DoolittleKin selection isn’t altruism.Sep 22, 2018, 10:35 AMMurphy CellCurt Doolittle is altruism bad?Sep 22, 2018, 10:45 AMWyatt StorchPut your kids in an institution at an age where narcissistic defense strategies are the only means of survival.

    Observe.Sep 22, 2018, 11:08 AMCurt DoolittleMurphy Cell it doesn’t exist.Sep 22, 2018, 11:17 AMCurt DoolittleNowhere in nature can we find it that isn’t self interest or kin selection.Sep 22, 2018, 11:18 AMCurt DoolittleAnd kin seletion is self interset.Sep 22, 2018, 11:18 AMMurphy CellCurt Doolittle self sacrifice doesn’t exist? Do morals exist? Not trying to challenge you here, just want you’re perspective.Sep 22, 2018, 11:21 AMCurt DoolittleSeriously, we cannot find any altruism in nature (it would be dangerous) that is not in self interest. When people act altruistically they are just buying options on future cooperation, and we evolved to have very clear perceptions of status (we are hardwired in the brain to calculate status) and so, we do what we can to increase or defend it. It’s not complicated.Sep 22, 2018, 11:24 AMCurt DoolittleA person who acts morally is buying insurance. The cumulative effect is a good thing. The more the better. The less the worst.

    Women have this in spades so it’s a freaking disease if its not controlled in them.Sep 22, 2018, 11:25 AMEric GroseCurt Doolittle are white women worse (or better) about this than other races?Sep 22, 2018, 11:27 AMMurphy CellCurt Doolittle I don’t know about that. Acting morally today can get you doxed, alienated from family and loved ones. Even discussing things that are “morally good” in the classical context can get you unpersoned on social networking. Acting morally can even get you thrown in prison today. I think there is a difference though between doing what is right and doing what is good. Doing what is right can require one to do something morally bad and doing good can lead to ones own death. So I think there is a tiny gray area between this cosmic “yin and yang” That allows for some flexibility. I don’t think a parent loves and sacrifices for their children out of the expectation that they’ll somehow get something in return. If that’s how someone looks at parenting then they are most likely just sociopathic no? Definitely not in regards to parenting in nature since existence is marginal at best. What does a bear get out of raising offspring that will simply take away more resources for them in the long run? So this impulse for altruism is rooted in instinct. Or am I in over my head?Sep 22, 2018, 11:44 AMRobert Radulescuhttps://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/11537306?ncid=engmodushpmg00000003Sep 22, 2018, 1:25 PMLori Alayne Weber MillerAsians have greater neoteny.Sep 22, 2018, 2:23 PMLori Alayne Weber MillerNothing, East Asians have more.Sep 22, 2018, 2:25 PMLori Alayne Weber MillerSame reason Jesus hung with prostitutes and tax collectors The physician is for the sick.Sep 22, 2018, 2:28 PMLori Alayne Weber MillerThis woman votes against open borders.Sep 22, 2018, 2:29 PMLori Alayne Weber MillerLiberals also not really Caucasian. They just play Caucasian’s on TV.Sep 22, 2018, 2:30 PMLori Alayne Weber MillerWhich means yes it is Christianity.Sep 22, 2018, 2:31 PMLori Alayne Weber MillerWyatt Storch good point.Sep 22, 2018, 2:32 PMLori Alayne Weber MillerChristopher Ivančić actually the feminist ideology that being a mother and wanting to raise and nurture your children at home is betraying your gender and the only good woman with a voice in politics is a barren CEO PHD that shouts her abortion triumphantly as victory over the patriarchy.Sep 22, 2018, 2:37 PMSimon Nick TemplarIf you could please stop before I’m old that would be great.Sep 22, 2018, 2:52 PMGiego CaleiroIf you think Joseph Smith is his prophet, and you care about the west, you’ll love my writing Lance…… Also add me on facebook: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yw3-NZtD3nBilegQYnjdmUIRzRTn3njn3CwtKbI62Qc/edit#Sep 22, 2018, 3:46 PMLance KennedyKyle WahlquistSep 24, 2018, 2:57 PMJim YankowskyMy people come first, good luck everybody else…Sep 24, 2018, 6:06 PMKyle WahlquistInteresting statement. Anyone know where I can get some of the source data these arguments derive from?Sep 24, 2018, 7:45 PMLance Kennedyask CurtSep 24, 2018, 8:28 PMTHE CORRECT ANSWER

    (a) genetics (we have higher neoteny), (b) homogeneity developed low clannishness although we maintain high disgust sensitivity, (c) commercial societies develop liberalism since everyone is a customer for either marriage, cooperation, business, or politics (d) christianity pushed universalism in there as well which caused the really bad consequences (e) WORSE women cause the openness to suicide by immigration. Men have voted consistently against it. So OUR WOMEN WERE RECRUITED AND DEFECTED JUST AS THEY DID UNDER CHRISTIANITY.

    Source date (UTC): 2018-09-21 16:01:00 UTC