(FB 1544809476 Timestamp) NO JORDAN PETERSON – NO MORE LIES No, Jordan, you’re just comfortable tolerating White Lies [1]. You are comfortable with white lies because white lies are how we provide solace to those who are suffering when we cannot ,or cannot afford to, or will not, take the actions necessary to end that suffering. Your work as a therapist could involve cognitive behavioral therapy. It does involve suggestion by the use of narration, thereby circumventing the trauma, analysis, and self criticism all of us make use of. But then you take this means of suggestion from the realm of interpersonal circumvention of trauma so that we might offer education by suggestion, and attempt to scale it to education. And this is where your white lies become ordinary lies, which you justify (obscure) with the lie of conflating the truth with the good and the preferable. There is no such thing as ‘darwinian truth’. There is only utility that satisfies a personal good, or a personal preference. We can weave a set of these utilities, like a story, into a justificationary network, that provides us with defense against our fears and insecurities – rather than training us out of fear and insecurity. But these are just another network of white lies. Judaism, Christianity, Islam and Buddhism are constructed of little other than these comforting white lies. Stoicism in the form of ritual self authoring(mindfulness) and ritual ancestor worship(Thanks), ritual community worship(thanks), and ritual nature worship(thanks) do nothing other than perform cognitive behavioral therapy that gives us confidence to act in a kaleidic universe the causal density of which is beyond our comprehension. So, Even today you maintain your market position with white lies. And you selectively argue with (a) scientific results, (b) clinical example, (c) historical example, and lastly (d) parables constructed of those white lies. And while in therapy, absent chemical assistance necessary to provide distance between cognition and trauma, fear, and insecurity, white lies allow us to operate by suggestion. Such lies do not scale. There are 1B dead between old world abrahamism( judaism, christianity, islam), and new world abrahamism (marxism, postmodernism, and feminism) and a thousand year dark age some of us are still trying to drag our civilization out of. And abrahamism consists of what appear to be white lies: False promise of the impossible, and destructive if successful, straw man criticism of the opposition, a vast network of lies in supernatural (religious), pseudoscientific (feminism, marxism, freudianism, boasianism, cantoriansim, messianism, keynesianism and mathematical platonism), sophist (postmodernism) prose, defended not by rational, operational, and scientific argument, but where argument is avoided by disapproval, shaming, ridicule, rallying, gossip, undermining, and reputation destruction on the personal, social, political, and intellectual scales. So no. There is no ‘excuse’ (justification) for white lies outside of catastrophic loss, therapy, injury, sick bed, and death bed. There is only one truthful definition of truth: that which is decidable independent of individual comprehension, preference, or collective good. And worse, it is through the scale of white lies that we have endured and still endure, a dark age of ignorance, and the billion lives loss to the conflicts created by defense of lies and offence with lies. NO MORE LIES. Curt Doolittle The Propertarian Institute Kiev, Ukraine [1] white lie[comfort] > grey lie[avoidance] > black lie[predation] > ‘Evil'(harm for harm’s sake)
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(FB 1544979288 Timestamp) VS TALEB There isn’t any difference between taleb and I other than he prefers literary philosophy, literature, reason, and math. He’s exhausted the math direction. He’s pretty much exhausted the literary direction, and he is very close to understanding that there is no positivist solution, and that only the law (warranty of due diligence) – which he calls skin in the game – is a possible method of testing whether individuals have sufficient agency AND honesty AND ethics to make choices. Otherwise I don’t know why we’re incompatible. Jeppeson hasn’t had an idea other than to retread derrida by adding in chomsky, and trying to create ‘social construction’ of authoritarianism (a religion of male authoritarian postmodernism) to compete with the left’s religion of feminine authoritarianism.) (I just deal with science, economics, law, education, and now that form of education we call religion.)
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(FB 1544957315 Timestamp) THE DESIRES OF ABSOLUTISTS by Bill Joslin I don’t think the absolutists are haters. I think they lack what they claim we lack – that being a foundation for meaning,. motivation -“a superordinate transcendental ideal to be subservient to”… We have that – it’s called Career, Friends, Family and Kids. They’re looking for meaning and inspiration. They’re unestablished males seeking to individuate from “dad”. The critiques leveled at us as best as I can see are a series of straw men and equivocations , but suspect their main recruitment efforts which are successful are build off critique of propertarianism (much like our strongest arguments are leveled against libertarians) – without prop – there would not really be much for absolutist to build their case on without going whole hog pomo. Besides it’s a strange conflation of de Jouvenel On Power used to justify “charisma” (he who drives the idiom is king) as a “metaphysically” coherent justification for absolute rule (the idiomatic subterrain king) (which if you really thought about it – what drives idiomatic mimicking in society (fashion, fame etc) is often driven from the underclasses up (pop music, pop culture, thug culture etc)… At least we understand why this is: omegas service as stress relief for the group – deferred aggression and initiation of play. Why? Because that’s all they have to offer. They’re not haters per say, just building a castle in the clouds and looking for others to agree it’s made of stone. Now, I shouldn’t have said they “lack” what they claim we are lacking, but rather have said they are looking for (trying to construct) what they see we are missing. But it kind of baffles me… For instance; aesthetics and transcendentals being required for motivation… Joel once said to me that having an aesthetic is propelling these young men toward excellence – working out, self perfection, career etc…. Yet under in the sheepdog group the things which Ivar is doing with is family business, of Alain is doing personally, or Bryan is doing locally… There are many of us driven forward by understanding the operational necessity of agency-en-toto . It’s a simple if-then operation. If agency is at the root of this then I should build agency, if I value (xyz) then I should act (agency) … This doesn’t diminish or reduce motivation to some materialistic or positivist frame (Anglo ontology as they would say) but rather demonstrates that aesthetics grounds into something more fundamental. The result is a market for aesthetics – each moving in the same direction (increase agency) for their own personal reasons opposed to a grand unifying aesthetic. Just seems like they’re seeking another monopoly – or rather seeking someone who has a monopoly on aesthetics and/or a monopoly on inspiration ( a leader ) You know…. “Anglo ontology can’t provide a transcendental” – yet I see that it is. It’s just not always a shiny, polished, sophisticated ideal… It can be mundane – like love of your family, or pride in work well done – it can be simple. And that is where I see their dissatisfaction – what we propose isn’t “special” enough. And that specialness they seek I think is the outward manifestation of young males seeking to establish themself via status symbols (specialness) at reduced costs (ideals over reals). I have a great respect for and see them walking the same path I did 20 years ago… That path leads here not over there. Give them time, let them live, forebearence for what ever costs they’ll impose in the meantime… They’ll eventually meet us somewhere in the middle – all young men must individuate on their own terms (or it wouldn’t be an individuation process). They’re my brothers too…. If anything it’s taught me what that patient yet irritated look on my father’s face meant, when I railed away at some stupidity in my youth.
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1544979288 Timestamp) VS TALEB There isn’t any difference between taleb and I other than he prefers literary philosophy, literature, reason, and math. He’s exhausted the math direction. He’s pretty much exhausted the literary direction, and he is very close to understanding that there is no positivist solution, and that only the law (warranty of due diligence) – which he calls skin in the game – is a possible method of testing whether individuals have sufficient agency AND honesty AND ethics to make choices. Otherwise I don’t know why we’re incompatible. Jeppeson hasn’t had an idea other than to retread derrida by adding in chomsky, and trying to create ‘social construction’ of authoritarianism (a religion of male authoritarian postmodernism) to compete with the left’s religion of feminine authoritarianism.) (I just deal with science, economics, law, education, and now that form of education we call religion.)
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1544957315 Timestamp) THE DESIRES OF ABSOLUTISTS by Bill Joslin I don’t think the absolutists are haters. I think they lack what they claim we lack – that being a foundation for meaning,. motivation -“a superordinate transcendental ideal to be subservient to”… We have that – it’s called Career, Friends, Family and Kids. They’re looking for meaning and inspiration. They’re unestablished males seeking to individuate from “dad”. The critiques leveled at us as best as I can see are a series of straw men and equivocations , but suspect their main recruitment efforts which are successful are build off critique of propertarianism (much like our strongest arguments are leveled against libertarians) – without prop – there would not really be much for absolutist to build their case on without going whole hog pomo. Besides it’s a strange conflation of de Jouvenel On Power used to justify “charisma” (he who drives the idiom is king) as a “metaphysically” coherent justification for absolute rule (the idiomatic subterrain king) (which if you really thought about it – what drives idiomatic mimicking in society (fashion, fame etc) is often driven from the underclasses up (pop music, pop culture, thug culture etc)… At least we understand why this is: omegas service as stress relief for the group – deferred aggression and initiation of play. Why? Because that’s all they have to offer. They’re not haters per say, just building a castle in the clouds and looking for others to agree it’s made of stone. Now, I shouldn’t have said they “lack” what they claim we are lacking, but rather have said they are looking for (trying to construct) what they see we are missing. But it kind of baffles me… For instance; aesthetics and transcendentals being required for motivation… Joel once said to me that having an aesthetic is propelling these young men toward excellence – working out, self perfection, career etc…. Yet under in the sheepdog group the things which Ivar is doing with is family business, of Alain is doing personally, or Bryan is doing locally… There are many of us driven forward by understanding the operational necessity of agency-en-toto . It’s a simple if-then operation. If agency is at the root of this then I should build agency, if I value (xyz) then I should act (agency) … This doesn’t diminish or reduce motivation to some materialistic or positivist frame (Anglo ontology as they would say) but rather demonstrates that aesthetics grounds into something more fundamental. The result is a market for aesthetics – each moving in the same direction (increase agency) for their own personal reasons opposed to a grand unifying aesthetic. Just seems like they’re seeking another monopoly – or rather seeking someone who has a monopoly on aesthetics and/or a monopoly on inspiration ( a leader ) You know…. “Anglo ontology can’t provide a transcendental” – yet I see that it is. It’s just not always a shiny, polished, sophisticated ideal… It can be mundane – like love of your family, or pride in work well done – it can be simple. And that is where I see their dissatisfaction – what we propose isn’t “special” enough. And that specialness they seek I think is the outward manifestation of young males seeking to establish themself via status symbols (specialness) at reduced costs (ideals over reals). I have a great respect for and see them walking the same path I did 20 years ago… That path leads here not over there. Give them time, let them live, forebearence for what ever costs they’ll impose in the meantime… They’ll eventually meet us somewhere in the middle – all young men must individuate on their own terms (or it wouldn’t be an individuation process). They’re my brothers too…. If anything it’s taught me what that patient yet irritated look on my father’s face meant, when I railed away at some stupidity in my youth.
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(FB 1545219478 Timestamp) THE TRUTH IS A HARSH RELIGION –“for a “scientist,” you have an awfully 7th-grade level of religious understanding. just a quick scroll through your feed shows a total lack of discernment when it even comes to the most basic differences between monotheistic faiths, as if you can just say “muh abrahamism” and that somehow means anything as an umbrella term. don’t you think that, if you’re going to claim to be empirical and objective, you should at least take the time to understand what you’re talking about?”—Michael Witcoff (As if my campaign against abrahamic sophism is limited to the old world religions of judaism, christianity, and islam – and the new world religions of marxism, socialism, postmodernism, feminism, and anti-europeanism – as much as it is against the causes of demand for falsehoods, and our ability to provide an alternative due to lack of understanding and costs.) That isnt a criticism. it’s an excuse. religion consists of what existed before 7th grade education, and declines now that we have that education. There is a reason religiosity deceases with intelligence and knowledge. There is a reason religiosity increases with declines in intelligence. There is a reason religiosity increases with diversity and decreases with homogeneity. In other words, religion as you understand it, is symptomatic of ‘the bad’. Yet, there is a reason why we have demand for personal, interpersonal, civic, and political rituals and feasts. there are many ways of supplying that demand. That’s the evidence from around the world and throughout history. The fact that one can scientifically articulate the causes of tht demand and the range of methods of supplying it is no more mysterious than the study of any other human behavior. Sure, it was the hard problem of social science. But that was only because of the poor framing of the work in understanding it. Einstein, Menger and Darwin were revolutionary because of their understanding that the problem was framing. Once you understand the commonality between their discoveries was framing (and once you understand my work for that matter) it is rather easy to see that the problem of religion as behavioral therapy is rather obvious. And therefore the satisfaction of demand for that problem by more constructive means, and eliminating the need for therapy by eliminating its causes: alienation. Patients easily become addicted to their therapists. So your ‘criticism’ that I should ‘understand’ (sympathize) is nothing more than the appeal of the gambler, drunk or addict, for sympathy with the experience of gambling, drunkenness or addiction. I want to and others want to find a form of MEDICATION that is not harmful to the host.
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(FB 1545150911 Timestamp) REGARDING CLAIRE KHAW’S CRITIQUE OF JOHN MARK by The Propertarian Institute Let’s understand Claire’s critique: Claire is a die-hard advocate for monotheistic religious, Christian if necessary, and Muslim if possible, Authoritarianism. Her argument is reducible to “I can’t understand it so it’s not good”, and here motive is “I can understand authoritarian religion so it is good.” That’s all she has to say – really. The rest is just (((critique))): meaning criticism of straw men, rather than proposal of a possible educational, social, economic, legal, and political order that can compete with the alternatives. Critique is always employed as a deceit. It’s just been Industrialized during the (((late 19th and entire 20th))) centuries due to the hostile attack on western civilization in the modern world using sophism, utopianism, and pseudoscience like judaism, christianity, and islam used sophism and supernaturalism to create a hostile attack on the great civilizations of the ancient world, through the natural vulnerability of women to such ideas, and the natural demand by the underclass of such ideas – despite those ideas being in conflict with anything other than dysgenia and decline. -Cheers Fool us once, shame one (((abrahamists))) of all religions. Fool us twice, shame on us for letting them.
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1545150911 Timestamp) REGARDING CLAIRE KHAW’S CRITIQUE OF JOHN MARK by The Propertarian Institute Let’s understand Claire’s critique: Claire is a die-hard advocate for monotheistic religious, Christian if necessary, and Muslim if possible, Authoritarianism. Her argument is reducible to “I can’t understand it so it’s not good”, and here motive is “I can understand authoritarian religion so it is good.” That’s all she has to say – really. The rest is just (((critique))): meaning criticism of straw men, rather than proposal of a possible educational, social, economic, legal, and political order that can compete with the alternatives. Critique is always employed as a deceit. It’s just been Industrialized during the (((late 19th and entire 20th))) centuries due to the hostile attack on western civilization in the modern world using sophism, utopianism, and pseudoscience like judaism, christianity, and islam used sophism and supernaturalism to create a hostile attack on the great civilizations of the ancient world, through the natural vulnerability of women to such ideas, and the natural demand by the underclass of such ideas – despite those ideas being in conflict with anything other than dysgenia and decline. -Cheers Fool us once, shame one (((abrahamists))) of all religions. Fool us twice, shame on us for letting them.
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(FB 1545309375 Timestamp) Able? Able? You’re an addict acting like a clown spewing abrahamic critique in the competitive method of females because you can’t put forth an argument other than normative, justificationary, or ridicule. Abrahamism: false promise, baiting into moral hazard, advanced by “Pilpul” consisting of the heaping of undue praise, sophism, supernaturalism, and pseudoscience, and defended by “Critique”, consisting of disapproval, moralizing, shaming, ridicule, rallying, gossiping, and reputation destruction – thereby advancing a falsehood on one hand, and attacking the person rather than argument on the other. What I do, is teach how to identify and defeat these arguments. What you don’t know is that Truth under threat of violence is the competitive strategy of males, and conformity under threat of reputation destruction the competitive strategy of females. Nor do you realize you are making TEXTBOOK ARGUMENTS using every one of the female techniques. The problem is, someone has to care about your approval, when you’re conducting your Pilpul and Critique in a forum of men for whom truth is far more important than approval, and who are training specifically to end the Abrahamic Deceits in their modern form: Marxism, Boasianism, Freudianism, Keynesianism (pseudoscience), Postmodernism and Libertarianism (sophism), and Feminism (false promise, denial). Truth is what differentiates the west from the rest. We survived christianity and the dark ages thanks to our sovereignty, heroism, truth, duty, and law, with the restoration of martial behavior under the viking conquest, and the restoration of greek thought, the replacement of the church’s mandated ignorance and superstition with literacy, and british contractualism and legalism, combined with greek thought, restoring our empiricism. All of these resulted in the agrarian revolution, world conquest, industrialization, and the creation of the modern world that has dragged the entire world out of semitic ignorance, superstition, poverty, hard labor, starvation, disease, suffering, tyranny, and the vicissitudes of nature. You’re just another drug user, defending his ‘high’, by reaching for any excuse you can find, like a woman defending her reputation despite sleeping with the enemy for money. We ought to shave your head and make you wear a dress. TRUTH IS TRUTH AND TRUTH IS ENOUGH. Satisfaction of demand for Religion(membership in the pack or herd) can be produced by Education(Stoicism), Therapy(buddhism), or Medication(Abrahamism). Cheers.
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1545309375 Timestamp) Able? Able? You’re an addict acting like a clown spewing abrahamic critique in the competitive method of females because you can’t put forth an argument other than normative, justificationary, or ridicule. Abrahamism: false promise, baiting into moral hazard, advanced by “Pilpul” consisting of the heaping of undue praise, sophism, supernaturalism, and pseudoscience, and defended by “Critique”, consisting of disapproval, moralizing, shaming, ridicule, rallying, gossiping, and reputation destruction – thereby advancing a falsehood on one hand, and attacking the person rather than argument on the other. What I do, is teach how to identify and defeat these arguments. What you don’t know is that Truth under threat of violence is the competitive strategy of males, and conformity under threat of reputation destruction the competitive strategy of females. Nor do you realize you are making TEXTBOOK ARGUMENTS using every one of the female techniques. The problem is, someone has to care about your approval, when you’re conducting your Pilpul and Critique in a forum of men for whom truth is far more important than approval, and who are training specifically to end the Abrahamic Deceits in their modern form: Marxism, Boasianism, Freudianism, Keynesianism (pseudoscience), Postmodernism and Libertarianism (sophism), and Feminism (false promise, denial). Truth is what differentiates the west from the rest. We survived christianity and the dark ages thanks to our sovereignty, heroism, truth, duty, and law, with the restoration of martial behavior under the viking conquest, and the restoration of greek thought, the replacement of the church’s mandated ignorance and superstition with literacy, and british contractualism and legalism, combined with greek thought, restoring our empiricism. All of these resulted in the agrarian revolution, world conquest, industrialization, and the creation of the modern world that has dragged the entire world out of semitic ignorance, superstition, poverty, hard labor, starvation, disease, suffering, tyranny, and the vicissitudes of nature. You’re just another drug user, defending his ‘high’, by reaching for any excuse you can find, like a woman defending her reputation despite sleeping with the enemy for money. We ought to shave your head and make you wear a dress. TRUTH IS TRUTH AND TRUTH IS ENOUGH. Satisfaction of demand for Religion(membership in the pack or herd) can be produced by Education(Stoicism), Therapy(buddhism), or Medication(Abrahamism). Cheers.