Form: Argument

  • Unpleasant Truths In A Complete Answer

    —-“Should whites pay reparations for colonialism?’— I wonder, if white people ( Native Europeans) should collect taxes (Income) for their spread of Aristotelianism (Science), Natural Law under Reciprocity by Tort (Rule of Law), Accounting, Finance, Banking, Credit, and Interest, and The suppression of systemic corruption and in doing so dragging the whole of humanity kicking and screaming, in one revolt after another out of ignorance, superstition, hard physical labor, child labor, poverty, diseases, infanticide, and tyranny in less than 500 years. When beginning with the Abrahamic Dark Age (Judaism, Christianity and Islam, the world had made little caloric progress for almost two thousand years.) As far as I know, the only mistake white people have made is entering into a civil war with cousins in Germany, that was initiated by communists, starting in Russia, and spreading like islam today (westward) to the point of internal exhaustion, and therefore leaving the colonial problem incomplete, and therefore leaving so much of the world to struggle through the long process of corruption-suppression, rule of law development, and middle class development, while the only western peoples left standing (Americans, Australians, and Canadians) were geographically isolated from the less developed peoples – all of whom still struggle with corruption, truthfulness, rule of law, moral commerce, and dysgenic reproduction rates. WHAT DOES THE WORLD OWE THE GREEKS AND ROMANS? WHAT DOES THE WORLD OWE NATIVE NORTHERN EUROPEANS (WHITES)?
  • Are Middle Eastern People Caucasian? If So, Why Are They Perceived As Not Being White In America?

    No. Middle easterners are from a different genetic group, and have assimilated Europeans – exterminating them from the Bosphorus to India.

    Look at genes. (See lists below) Middle Easterner’s are of West Asian origins (anatolian, semitic, persian). And while the west asian branch of caucasians has reached across more of the world than europeans (until the 1400’s) Arabs appear to originate from Ethiopian/Arabian crossing (an early trade location) and are a mixture of african and west asian. This is largely because west asians (black haired swarthier) had different agrarian, pastoral needs, and much greater outgroup competition (middle east is the intersection of four continents, and nearly all the racial, sub racial, and tribal groups – hence the obvious tribalism still present in the demographics – particularly among ‘The Evil 80’s’ which the warmer climates have not been able to eliminate.

    Caucasian is the wrong term. Principally because ‘Whites’ are not of west asian origins, nor from the caucuses, but from the north and west of the black sea, while west asians have darker coloring, more cartilage, different cephalic indexes, and higher impulsivity (which I prefer to state as ‘more emotional’).

    Indo european expansion was successful across the eurasian plain, and down into west asia. However, *all those peoples were assimilated and are gone*. This is because the ‘uniqueness’ of westerners cannot survive competition with outsiders any more than east asians (Han, Korean, Japanese) can. East asians have succeeded at greater neoteny than even europeans – but from an earlier fork in the homo sapiens sapiens expansion.

    West indo europeans appear to have ‘matured’ in poland and ukraine, and then expanded eastward displacing their west asian competitors. and we can see patterns of radiation of genes in europe consisting of at least three waves a) early neolithic, agrarian, and horse-riding. The last wave (R1a-germanic-slavic) divides the prior two (I1/I2-Nordic,Southern, and R1b/Atlantic) very clearly along the european plain (where horses and cattle can be easily fed).

    We have learned a lot in the past thirty years, and it mirrors pre-war thought. Post-war this line of thought has been prosecuted – especially since 1960s and the introduction of Postmodernism from the French (once Marxism’s class warfare had failed, the marxists adopted identity warfare.)

    TRAITS: MOST GROUP DIFFERENCES ARE EXPRESSIONS OF SUCCESS OR FAILURE AT NEOTONIC SELECTION GIVEN THE PRESSURES OF WARM CLIMATES.

    “Europeans” share continuous, and difficult-to-evolve traits that west asians do not.
    a) lower testosterone levels (and lower impulsivity)
    b) greater neoteny (slower sexual maturity)
    c) greater pedomorphism (retention of aquiline/childhood traits)
    d) lighter coloring (skin and hair – less ‘swarthy’)
    e) greater cephalic index (probably due to greater neoteny)
    (f) lower ‘clannishness’ from birth. (really. from the day they’re born.)
    (g) (I am not sure about this yet) Possibly higher rates of sociopathy (purely rational actors, and free of governing impulse). There is too much overlap in the (scarce and questionable) literature to separate biological sociopathy (lack of empathy) which is evident in brain structure, and various anti-social behaviors. In whites, the autism spectrum appears more common, and without comorbidity, whereas in non-whites it appears comorbid with other (birth) mental defects. This could be caused by nothing other than northern european whites have been exceptionally successful not only at neoteny, but at ‘ridding the population’ of the underclass through winters, starvation, manorialism, disease, war – and extremely aggressive hanging for over 1000 years. So I suspect that these statistics are merley demographic (class), and that the positive results of class (lower emotionality and impulse, higher influence of reason) just express themselves to a higher degree in whites (sociopathy, non-comorbid autism, lower testosterone, more aquiline features).


    GENETIC AND CULTURAL GROUPS (RACES, SUBRACES, TRIBES) COMPARING EUROPEAN AND MIDDLE EASTERN

    1)EUROPEANS (‘UKRAINIANS’) (NORTH BRANCH) (
    ……..FINN/UGRIC/URALIC (N)
    ……..SCANDINAVIAN (I1)
    ……..SLAVIC (R1a)
    ……..GERMANIC (R1b)
    ……..ATLANTIC (CELTIC)(R1b)
    ……..BASQUE (R1b+)
    ……..SOUTHERN EUROPEANS ( I2 ‘proto-europeans’)
    …………….Sardinians
    …………….Moldovans,
    …………….Romanians,
    …………….Bulgarians,
    …………….Serbians,
    …………….Bosnians,
    …………….Croatians

    2) IRANIANS (SOUTH BRANCH)
    ……..IRANIAN
    …………….Armenians(R1b/J2)
    …………….Jews (E1/J)
    …………….Greeks and Southern Italians (I2)
    …………….Kurds
    …………….Iranians (J2)
    …………….Jordanians
    …………….Iraqis
    …………….Assyrians
    …………….Druze
    …………….Lebanese
    …………….Georgians
    …………….Caspians
    …………….Palestinians
    ……TURKIC (Displaced from China)
    …………….Turks
    ……TAJIK
    …………….Tajik
    …………….Bukhara Arab
    …………….Shugnan
    …………….Kallar
    …………….Sourashtran
    …………….Yadhava

    ……IRANIAN AFRICAN (ARAB / SEMITIC) (J1)
    …………….Kuwaiti*
    …………….Arabian (Saudi – Yemeni – Bedouin)*
    …………….Egyptian
    ……IRANIAN NORTH AFRICAN
    …………….North African Race (Moroccan – Libyan – Tunisian – Canarian)
    …………….Berber Race*** (Berber)
    …………….Algerian Race (Algerian)

    3) INDO IRANIAN (DRAVIDIAN/IRANIAN?) (EAST BRANCH)
    ……INDO-IRANIAN
    …………….Kalash***
    …………….West Asian/East Iranian
    …………………………..Pashtun
    …………………………..Brahui
    …………………………..Balochi
    …………………………..Makrani
    …………………………..Sindhi
    …………….West Himalayan
    …………………………..Hunza
    …………………………..Bartangi
    …………………………..Roma
    …………….Himalayan***
    …………………………..Gurkha
    …………………………..Tharu
    …………………………..Ladakhi
    …………….North Indian**
    …………………………..Punjabi
    …………………………..Central Indic
    …………………………..Punjabi Brahmin
    …………………………..Rajput
    …………………………..Vania Soni
    …………………………..Mumbai Brahmin
    …………………………..Jat
    …………………………..Kerala Brahmin
    …………………………..Koli
    …………….Karnet-Uttar Pradesh Brahmin***
    …………………………..Karnet
    …………………………..Uttar Pradesh Brahmin

    ……INDO-IRANIAN-DRAVIDIAN
    …………….South Indian**
    …………………………..Munda
    …………………………..Bhil
    …………………………..Maratha
    …………………………..Rajbanshi
    …………………………..Oraon
    …………………………..Parji
    …………………………..Kolami-Naiki
    …………………………..Chenchu Reddi
    …………………………..Konda
    …………………………..Kolya
    …………………………..West Bengal Brahmin
    …………………………..Parsi
    …………………………..Gond
    …………….South Dravidian***
    …………………………..Sinhalese
    …………………………..Lambada
    …………………………..Irula
    …………………………..Izhava
    …………………………..Kurumba
    …………………………..Nayar
    …………………………..Toda
    …………………………..Kota
    …………………………..Malayaraya
    …………………………..Tamil
    …………….Kerala Kadar***
    …………………………..Kerala Kadar


    TOTAL CURRENT UNDERSTANDING OF RACES, SUBRACES AND TRIBES.

    (for those that find these things interesting)

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    ======Caucasian Macro Race======
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    (Northern Branch of Indo-European Migration)

    ==Northwestern European Races / North Sea and Rivers(R1b/I1) ==
    Atlantic, Celtic, Geramanic (R1b),
    Nordic (Swedish, Norwegian)(I1)

    ===Slavic Race/Baltic/Dniepr/European Plain(R1a) ===
    West Slavic, South Slavic, East Slavic

    === Uralic / Finno-Ugric Race (N) ===
    Finn, Estonian, Latvia, Lithuania, (Russia/Moscovy)
    Norwegian-Swedish Saami Race*** (Norwegian Saami – Swedish Saami)
    Finnish Saami Race** (Finnish Saami)

    === Basque Race ===
    Basque Race (Basque) (R1b1+Heavy non-european Admixture)

    ===Southern Proto Europeans (I2)===
    Sardinian Race** (Sardinian)
    Moldovans,Romanians,Bulgarians,Serbians,

    Bosnians, Croatians (et al)

    ======================
    West Asian Major Race
    ======================

    ===”Iranian” Race(West Asian)***===
    Iranian Race ( Armenian(R1b/J2) – Jewish(E1/J) – Greek(I2) — Southern Italians(I2) — Turk – Kurd – Iranian – Jordanian – Iraqi – Assyrian – Druze – Lebanese – Georgian – Caspian – Palestinian)
    Tajik Race (Tajik – Bukhara Arab – Shugnan – Kallar – Sourashtran – Yadhava)

    === Arab (Semitic / Iranian-African?) Race===
    (J) (Kuwait, and southern peninsula)
    Kuwaiti Race* (Kuwaiti)
    Arabian Race (Saudi – Yemeni – Bedouin)*
    Egyptian Race (Egyptian)

    ===North African===
    North African Race (Moroccan – Libyan – Tunisian – Canarian)
    Berber Race*** (Berber)
    Algerian Race (Algerian)

    ===Indo Iranian Major Race***===
    Kalash Race*** (Kalash)
    West Asian Race/East Iranian Race (Pashtun – Brahui – Balochi – Makrani – Sindhi )
    West Himalayan Race (Hunza – Bartangi – Roma)
    Himalayan Race*** (Gurkha – Tharu – Ladakhi)

    North Indian Race** (Punjabi – Central Indic – Punjabi Brahmin – Rajput – Vania Soni – Mumbai Brahmin – Jat – Kerala Brahmin – Koli)
    Karnet-Uttar Pradesh Brahmin Race*** (Karnet – Uttar Pradesh Brahmin)

    South Indian Race** (Munda – Bhil – Maratha – Rajbanshi – Oraon – Parji – Kolami-Naiki – Chenchu Reddi – Konda – Kolya – West Bengal Brahmin – Parsi – Gond)

    South Dravidian Race*** (Sinhalese – Lambada – Irula – Izhava – Kurumba – Nayar – Toda – Kota – Malayaraya – Tamil)

    Kerala Kadar Race*** (Kerala Kadar)

    ==============================
    ======Asian Macro Race======
    ==============================

    ===Northeast Asian Major Race*===
    Japanese-Korean Race (Japanese – Korean)
    Southern Japanese Race (Honshu Kinki – Kyushu)
    Ryukyuan Race (Okinawans)
    Ainu Race*** (Ainu)
    Gilyak Race** (Gilyak)
    Northern Chinese Race (Northern Han – Qiang – Manchu – Hui – Yunnan Han)
    Oroqen Race (Oroqen)
    Sherpa-Yakut Race (Sherpa – Yakut)
    Nepalese Race (Nepali – Newari)
    Mongolian Race (Mongolian – Inner Mongolian – Buryat – Kazakh)
    Northern Turkic Race*** (Dolgan – Altai – Shor – Tofalar – Uighur – Chelkan – Soyot – Kumandin Teleut – Hazara)
    Central Asian Race (Kirghiz – Karalkalpak – Uzbek – Turkmen)
    Tuva Race (Tuva)
    Tungus Race (Even – Evenki – Russian Saami)
    Siberian Race
    Beringian Race** (Chukchi – Aleut – Siberian Eskimo)
    Paleosiberian Race (Koryak – Itelmen)
    Reindeer Chukchi Race (Reindeer Chukchi)
    General Tibetan Race (Tibetan – Lisu – Nu – Tujia – Akha – Burmese – Yizu)
    Mizo Race (Mizo)
    Bhutanese Race (Bhutanese Buddhist)
    Siberian Uralic Race (Nentsy – Samoyed – Ket – Mansi – Khanty)
    Nganasan Race (Nganasan)
    Uralic Race (Komi – Mari)
    North American Eskimo Race (Inuit)

    ==Amerindian Major Race*==
    Northern Na-Dene Race
    Northwestern American Amerindian Race
    Northern Amerind Race
    Central Amerind Race
    Southern Amerind Race
    Ge Amerindian Race (Ge Language Group)
    Tucanoan Amerindian Race (Tucanoan Language Group)
    Nootka Amerindian Race (Nuuchahnulth – Makah)
    Fuegian Amerindian Race (Ona – Yaghan – Kaweskar – Aonikenk – Alacaluf)

    ===Southeast Asian Major Race*===
    Southern Chinese Race (Dong – Henan Han – Yi – She – Punu – Naxi)
    Hmong-Mien Race (Chinese Hmong – Thai Hmong – Mien)
    Li-Khmer Race (Li – Khmer)
    Southeast China Race (Hakka – Min Nan – Singapore Chinese – Thai Chinese – Cantonese Han)
    South China Sea Race (Tagalog – Ilocano – Visayan – Ami Taiwanese Aborigine – Guangdong Han)
    Manobo Race (Manobo)
    Philippines Negrito Race (Aeta – Agta – Palau Micronesian)
    Mangyan-Ati Race (Iraya – Ati)
    Mamanwa Philippines Negrito Race (Mamanwa)
    Tai Race (Thai – Tai Lue – Tai Kern – Tai Yong – Tai Yuan – Lao – Lahu – Aini – Shan – Dai – Muong – Buyei)
    Vietnamese Race (Vietnamese – Deang – Jinuo – Blang)
    Mlabri Race** (Mlabri)
    Htin Race (Htin)
    Kachin Race (Kachin – Karen – Va – Nung – Lu – Lawa)
    General Taiwanese Aborigine Race (Ayatal – Bunun – Yami)
    Island SE Asian Race (Paiwan Taiwanese Aborigine – Sea Dayak – Sumatran – Balinese)
    Bidayuh Race** (Jagoi)
    Indonesian Race (Sulawesi – Borneo – Lesser Sunda – Sarawak – Javanese)
    Mentawi Race (Mentawi)
    Toraja Race (Toraja)
    Lesser Sunda Race (Kambera – Lembata – Lamaholot – Manggarai)
    Malay Race (Malaysia Malay – Singapore Malay)
    Proto-Malay Race** (Temuan)
    Austroasiatic Race (Mon – Zhuang – She – Ho – Lyngngam)
    Nongtrai Race (Nongtrai)
    Santhal-Naga Race (Santhal – Naga – Munda – Kurmi – Sudra)
    Meghalaya Race (War Jantia – Bhoi – Maram – War Khasi – Kynriam – Nishi – Pnar – Bai)
    Senoi Race (Senoi)
    Shompen Race (Shompen)
    Garo Race (Garo)
    NE Indian Indo-European Race (Mahishya – Bagdi – Gaud – Tanti – Lodha)
    Indian Tibeto-Burman Race (Apatani – Nishi – Adi – Tripuri – Jamatia – Mog – Chakma)
    Semang Malay Negrito Race*** (Semang – Jehai – Kensui)

    ===Oceanian Major Race*===
    Micronesian Race (Yap – Kanaka – Toba Batak Indonesian – Kora Batak Indonesian)
    Polynesian Race* (Tonga – Western Samoa – French Polynesia – Cook Islands)
    Melanesian Race (Fiji – Vanuatu – New Ireland – Papuan Melanesian – Nasioi – Alor Indonesian)

    ==============================
    ======Australoid Macro Race======
    ==============================

    ===Australian Major Race***===

    ===General Australian Aborigine Major Race***===
    Queensland Aborigine Race***
    Western Territory Pama-Nguyan Aborigine Race***

    ===Papuan Major Race***===
    General Papuan Race***
    Motu Papuan Race***
    Sepik-Ramu Papuan Race***

    ===Greater Andaman Islands Major Race***===
    Greater Andaman Islands Negrito Race***

    ===Onge Andaman Islands Major Race***===
    Onge Andaman Islands Negrito Race***

    ==============================
    African Macro Race
    ==============================

    ===African Major Race***===
    Tigrean Race*** (Tigrean)
    Amharic Race*** (Amharic)
    Sudanese-Barya Race*** (Sudanese – Barya)
    General Nilotic Race (Shilluk – Masai – Nuer – Dinka – Luo – Turkana – Karanojo – Mabaan)
    Funji Nilotic Race (Funji)
    Tuareg-Beja Cushitic Race*** (Tuareg – Beja)
    Nubian Race*** (Nubian)
    Wolof-Peul-Serer Race (Wolof – Peul – Serer)
    General Bantu Race (Most Bantus)
    Bedik Bantu Race (Bedik)
    West African Race (Most West Africans)
    Mbuti Pygmy Race
    Sara Nilotic-Biaka Pygmy Race (Sara – Biaka)
    San Khoisan-Somali Race*** (San – Somali)
    Khoi Khoisan Race*** (Nama – !Ora)
    Hadza Khoisan Race*** (Hadza)
    Sandawe Khoisan Race (Sandawe)

    https://www.quora.com/unanswered/Are-Middle-Eastern-people-Caucasian-If-so-why-are-they-perceived-as-not-being-white-in-America

  • Should The United States Switch To The Metric System?

    No. the metric system was a mistake. “Human Scale” measurements are superior.
    a thumb is an inch.
    A foot is a foot.
    A yard is an arm.
    A mile is a thousand paces.
    Fahrenheit is superior for temperature sensitivity.
    The only reason for the metric system was to make calculations easier.

    https://www.quora.com/Should-the-United-States-switch-to-the-metric-system

  • Can We Argue That Improving Dispensation Of Social Justice And Social Equity Has A Positive Linear Relationship With The Ability Of A Society To Participate And Benefit From A Free Market?

    PAINFUL TRUTH

    You can’t define Social Justice, and you probably can’t define Social Equity, or describe how either could come about. And if you did, you would of necessity define injustice and inequity.

    However;

    You can desire that your genetic, behavioral, social, economic, and political ‘status’ relative to others is more or less visible, and that you are more or less treated independent of that status by others. (Signaling or ‘Association and Cooperation’.)

    You can desire that you are not ignored, dismissed, outcast, or treated according to your reproductive value to others. (Genetic)

    You can desire that you are not avoided, ignored, dismissed, outcast or treated according to your behavior which is determined by your genetic, behavioral, social, economic, and political value to others.(Behavioral)

    You can desire that you are not prohibited from use of commons, regardless of your genetic, behavioral, social, economic and political value to others. (Social)

    You can desire that you are given dividends via taxation to compensate for your lower genetic, behavioral, social, economic, and political value to others. (Economic)

    You can desire that you are given political influence over the production of commons to compensate for your lower genetic, behavioral, social, economic, and political value to others. (Political)

    So you can desire many false (non-market) forms of compensation from others, or you can reap many true (market) forms of compensation from others.

    So far as I know (and we know, and we can demonstrate) you require:
    1) rule of law that protects property rights (self, spouse, kin, investments, assets, property) from involuntary transfer (we call this tort, common, or natural law) regardless of you genetic, behavioral, social, economic, and political value to others.
    2) A military, police, sheriff, and judiciary that will not violate that rule of law, but enforce it regardless of you genetic, behavioral, social, economic, and political value to others.
    3) A bureaucracy that acts according to rule of law and accepts no payment, advantage, or influence, to bias their decisions, and treats all individuals identically regardless of their genetic, behavioral, social, economic, and political value to others.

    And the reason to make use of MARKETS, is because they produce greater wealth than all possible alternatives, and as such, provide us with means of providing the luxury of law, enforcement, and bureaucracy, and market, treating you as equally as your willingness to demonstrate market-normative behavior warrants, despite your genetic, behavioral, social, economic, and political value to others.

    Curt Doolittle
    The Propertarian Institute
    Kiev, Ukraine

    https://www.quora.com/Can-we-argue-that-improving-dispensation-of-social-justice-and-social-equity-has-a-positive-linear-relationship-with-the-ability-of-a-society-to-participate-and-benefit-from-a-free-market

  • If The Usa Is The Leade Of The ‘free World’, Who Is The Leader Of The ‘muslim World’ Now?

    The current battle for leadership, if not the historical battle for leadership, is between the Saudis and the Iranians. The west’s preferences for leadership were 1) A Secular Turkey that led by commercial growth, 2) A Secular Iran that led by political power, 3) an expansion of the arab monarchies in the Saudi model that would reflect the old european monarchies.

    What the west did not want was the spread of communism, or the spread of fundamentalism.

    At present, Turkey has decided to abandon it’s secularization program, iran has sought imperial status by unification of syria, iraq, iran, and to compete on the world stage as a fundamentalist hostile power.

    So at present we see The Monarchies/Israel/the USA, against Iran/Turkey/Russia.

    All civilizations require at least one core state to limit the danger exposed by their own on the world stage, while defending their own on the world stage.

    The last civilization to ‘mature’ is islam, because it was the farthest developmentally behind AND had a devolutionary religion to preserve that backwardness.

    Africa was technologically farther behind, and economically more disadvantaged, but they are not held back by an institutionalized religion bent on preserving it’s power over society.

    https://www.quora.com/If-the-USA-is-the-leade-of-the-Free-World-who-is-the-leader-of-the-Muslim-world’-now

  • David (all) It is quite possible to reduce human categories, relations and value

    David (all)

    It is quite possible to reduce human categories, relations and values to a correspondent, consistent, coherent, and commensurable set of references.

    And as far as I know we can also simulate the same changes in state within the machine that we experience via our reward systems (emotions).

    Now, just as some people can’t imitate your actions, sympathize with your thinking, and empathize with your feelings, because the differences in frames are too hard to overcome, I suspect that machines will ‘get it wrong’ with some of us now and then.

    Some people want to work with the neural network architecture. And NN’s are exceptional at reducing inputs to symbols (objects, relations, values). And in my opinion the NN ceases being useful(cost effective and controllable) at the point at which we develop symbols (objects, relations, values).

    Beyond the construction of symbols, the game engine (algorithmic) architecture appears to be a better solution.

    We can create transparency, auditability, and yes, conscience, as long as we use such an architecture. For example, imagine that you could only act upon what you could vocalize?

    I’ll also stay on message that the fundamental problem any intelligence faces is taking action to conduct tests. Ergo the primary problem with ‘superintelligence’ or even ‘general intelligence’ as I understand it, (and I have been at this a long time), are the same as the primary problem with knowledge creation in any other field: cost, logistics, and permission to organize a network of actions.

    There don’t seem to be many other people in AI that have both an understanding of computer science, an understanding of economics, and the economics of the increasingly complex problem of experimentation whether personal, political, entrepreneurial, technical, or

    It is, believe it or not, within one lifetime, possible for a human being of adequate ability and time to comprehend the limits of each and every major discipline. And it is equally possible to ‘keep up’ with the current status of those disciplines.

    As far as I know computers will not mine much that is good out of the existing base of knowldge.

    The primary difference is that machies will be able to think and act faster than us in work capacities.

    In creativity? Creativity isn’t a process of reasoning but free association, and experimentation.

    The problem in every field today is that where it took one person to solve a scientific problem a century ago, it takes armies of them today.

    The problem is cost.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-12-08 16:35:00 UTC

  • David (all) It is quite possible to reduce human categories, relations and value

    David (all) It is quite possible to reduce human categories, relations and values to a correspondent, consistent, coherent, and commensurable set of references. And as far as I know we can also simulate the same changes in state within the machine that we experience via our reward systems (emotions). Now, just as some people can’t imitate your actions, sympathize with your thinking, and empathize with your feelings, because the differences in frames are too hard to overcome, I suspect that machines will ‘get it wrong’ with some of us now and then. Some people want to work with the neural network architecture. And NN’s are exceptional at reducing inputs to symbols (objects, relations, values). And in my opinion the NN ceases being useful(cost effective and controllable) at the point at which we develop symbols (objects, relations, values). Beyond the construction of symbols, the game engine (algorithmic) architecture appears to be a better solution. We can create transparency, auditability, and yes, conscience, as long as we use such an architecture. For example, imagine that you could only act upon what you could vocalize? I’ll also stay on message that the fundamental problem any intelligence faces is taking action to conduct tests. Ergo the primary problem with ‘superintelligence’ or even ‘general intelligence’ as I understand it, (and I have been at this a long time), are the same as the primary problem with knowledge creation in any other field: cost, logistics, and permission to organize a network of actions. There don’t seem to be many other people in AI that have both an understanding of computer science, an understanding of economics, and the economics of the increasingly complex problem of experimentation whether personal, political, entrepreneurial, technical, or It is, believe it or not, within one lifetime, possible for a human being of adequate ability and time to comprehend the limits of each and every major discipline. And it is equally possible to ‘keep up’ with the current status of those disciplines. As far as I know computers will not mine much that is good out of the existing base of knowldge. The primary difference is that machies will be able to think and act faster than us in work capacities. In creativity? Creativity isn’t a process of reasoning but free association, and experimentation. The problem in every field today is that where it took one person to solve a scientific problem a century ago, it takes armies of them today. The problem is cost.
  • David (all) It is quite possible to reduce human categories, relations and value

    David (all) It is quite possible to reduce human categories, relations and values to a correspondent, consistent, coherent, and commensurable set of references. And as far as I know we can also simulate the same changes in state within the machine that we experience via our reward systems (emotions). Now, just as some people can’t imitate your actions, sympathize with your thinking, and empathize with your feelings, because the differences in frames are too hard to overcome, I suspect that machines will ‘get it wrong’ with some of us now and then. Some people want to work with the neural network architecture. And NN’s are exceptional at reducing inputs to symbols (objects, relations, values). And in my opinion the NN ceases being useful(cost effective and controllable) at the point at which we develop symbols (objects, relations, values). Beyond the construction of symbols, the game engine (algorithmic) architecture appears to be a better solution. We can create transparency, auditability, and yes, conscience, as long as we use such an architecture. For example, imagine that you could only act upon what you could vocalize? I’ll also stay on message that the fundamental problem any intelligence faces is taking action to conduct tests. Ergo the primary problem with ‘superintelligence’ or even ‘general intelligence’ as I understand it, (and I have been at this a long time), are the same as the primary problem with knowledge creation in any other field: cost, logistics, and permission to organize a network of actions. There don’t seem to be many other people in AI that have both an understanding of computer science, an understanding of economics, and the economics of the increasingly complex problem of experimentation whether personal, political, entrepreneurial, technical, or It is, believe it or not, within one lifetime, possible for a human being of adequate ability and time to comprehend the limits of each and every major discipline. And it is equally possible to ‘keep up’ with the current status of those disciplines. As far as I know computers will not mine much that is good out of the existing base of knowldge. The primary difference is that machies will be able to think and act faster than us in work capacities. In creativity? Creativity isn’t a process of reasoning but free association, and experimentation. The problem in every field today is that where it took one person to solve a scientific problem a century ago, it takes armies of them today. The problem is cost.
  • Supreme Court: Bakers and Gays. (sorry, just had to crank this one out at 2:45am

    Supreme Court: Bakers and Gays.

    (sorry, just had to crank this one out at 2:45am)

    Arguments before the court are incorrect. There is a vast difference between personal conviction, small business between individuals, enterprise policy, and practical monopoly.

    There is no practical monopoly of cake bakers, there is no enterprise policy forcing interpersonal rejection, and so this is an interpersonal matter of a difference in ethics.

    I mean, I wouldn’t ask a jew to make a nazi cake. I just wouldn’t because that would VIOLATE RECIPROCITY.

    And I wouldn’t confuse my personal conviction with corporate policy, nor near monopoly policy depriving choice in a market, nor political policy determining rights under rule of law before the courts.

    I don’t let certain people service me in stores because I do not want to reward their manner of dress or speech or behavior, or ‘attire of separatism’. But I am happy to simply move on to someone else, and aside from utilities, I don’t see any commerce I can conduct that is a near monopoly.

    So this has been a travesty since the beginning.

    Voluntary Reciprocity provides the answer to everything.


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  • Supreme Court: Bakers and Gays. (sorry, just had to crank this one out at 2:45am

    Supreme Court: Bakers and Gays. (sorry, just had to crank this one out at 2:45am) Arguments before the court are incorrect. There is a vast difference between personal conviction, small business between individuals, enterprise policy, and practical monopoly. There is no practical monopoly of cake bakers, there is no enterprise policy forcing interpersonal rejection, and so this is an interpersonal matter of a difference in ethics. I mean, I wouldn’t ask a jew to make a nazi cake. I just wouldn’t because that would VIOLATE RECIPROCITY. And I wouldn’t confuse my personal conviction with corporate policy, nor near monopoly policy depriving choice in a market, nor political policy determining rights under rule of law before the courts. I don’t let certain people service me in stores because I do not want to reward their manner of dress or speech or behavior, or ‘attire of separatism’. But I am happy to simply move on to someone else, and aside from utilities, I don’t see any commerce I can conduct that is a near monopoly. So this has been a travesty since the beginning. Voluntary Reciprocity provides the answer to everything.