Form: Argument

  • You Have Many Choices. We Have One. so Leave

    Feb 12, 2020, 12:14 PM [I]f you want socialism, and open borders, then leave – open borders work both ways. And you have a whole world offering socialism that is willing to take you. Canada alone wants 100M people in this century and there are as many as 100M of you that want Canadian Socialism. But If you want western civilization, and in particular anglo American high trust institutions, and the proceeds from them, then there is only one country left to get them. And we are going to keep it that country and those institutions, no matter what the cost – including no matter what cost to you – including the greatest cost.

  • You Have Many Choices. We Have One. so Leave

    Feb 12, 2020, 12:14 PM [I]f you want socialism, and open borders, then leave – open borders work both ways. And you have a whole world offering socialism that is willing to take you. Canada alone wants 100M people in this century and there are as many as 100M of you that want Canadian Socialism. But If you want western civilization, and in particular anglo American high trust institutions, and the proceeds from them, then there is only one country left to get them. And we are going to keep it that country and those institutions, no matter what the cost – including no matter what cost to you – including the greatest cost.

  • The Presumptions in Discourse and Argument in The Positiva and Negativa Traditions

    (CORE) Feb 12, 2020, 9:16 PM [I] would rather let this conversation go forward without my interjection to let the team demonstrate their skills but to save time 0) I use falsification. Falsification in science evolved from falsification by contest (competition, adversarial) in European law. And falsification by adversarial competition in law is our oldest continuous political tradition after sovereignty. 1) I do not presume people have agency, or that they have other than the minimum consciousness and self-reflection and self-regulation to engage in negotiation deception, parasitism, and predation to minimize the costs of obtaining wants and needs by productive voluntary exchange (people only demonstrate the minimum morality necessary to act in their interests.) 2) I do not presume that people seek truth but that people seek to justify priors, to lie, or sow social constructions for manipulation in pursuit of a discount, to engage in fraud, or to engage, or to conspire. 3) I do not presume when I don’t know the answer – I say something from the spectrum “We don’t know, I don’t know yet”, or “as far as I know”, or “we only know x so far”, or” we only know x so far and these possibilities are consistent with what we know so far”, or “as far as I know that’s false”, or “that can’t be true” – as that is the only truthful testimony I can give. 4) The history of all thought consists of the history of falsification of all causal claims other than realism naturalism under operationalism 5) All alternatives, all knowledge claims that are consistent with failure of all alternatives to realism, naturalism, under operationalism, must depend on some incentive other than “we don’t know yet, but all causality will depend upon realism, naturalization under operationalism”. 6) While we can testify to causes of realism naturalism operationalism and empiricism including subjective testing of incentives (rational choice), we cannot possibly testify to any claim that is not dependent upon realism, naturalism, under operationalism, because we cannot claim to have that knowledge, 7) If we can identify incentive, meaning, means motive and opportunity, for giving false testimony, by claiming the untestifiable then there is nothing else to determine – the person is lying. 8) In other words, theology and philosophy, negotiation and chit chat (exchange of signals of safety) seek opportunity for agreement or consent by means motive and opportunity, while, mathematics, logic, science, and law seek opportunity for falsification or decidability in dispute resolution by means motive and opportunity. In other words, if you can’t testify to a claim you’re starting out informing, negotiating, persuading, threatening by lying. Now, in a public forum at distance without direct physical contact I can’t engage in physical punishment for lying. But as a European man, defending the informational commons, I do the best I can in prose.

  • The Presumptions in Discourse and Argument in The Positiva and Negativa Traditions

    (CORE) Feb 12, 2020, 9:16 PM [I] would rather let this conversation go forward without my interjection to let the team demonstrate their skills but to save time 0) I use falsification. Falsification in science evolved from falsification by contest (competition, adversarial) in European law. And falsification by adversarial competition in law is our oldest continuous political tradition after sovereignty. 1) I do not presume people have agency, or that they have other than the minimum consciousness and self-reflection and self-regulation to engage in negotiation deception, parasitism, and predation to minimize the costs of obtaining wants and needs by productive voluntary exchange (people only demonstrate the minimum morality necessary to act in their interests.) 2) I do not presume that people seek truth but that people seek to justify priors, to lie, or sow social constructions for manipulation in pursuit of a discount, to engage in fraud, or to engage, or to conspire. 3) I do not presume when I don’t know the answer – I say something from the spectrum “We don’t know, I don’t know yet”, or “as far as I know”, or “we only know x so far”, or” we only know x so far and these possibilities are consistent with what we know so far”, or “as far as I know that’s false”, or “that can’t be true” – as that is the only truthful testimony I can give. 4) The history of all thought consists of the history of falsification of all causal claims other than realism naturalism under operationalism 5) All alternatives, all knowledge claims that are consistent with failure of all alternatives to realism, naturalism, under operationalism, must depend on some incentive other than “we don’t know yet, but all causality will depend upon realism, naturalization under operationalism”. 6) While we can testify to causes of realism naturalism operationalism and empiricism including subjective testing of incentives (rational choice), we cannot possibly testify to any claim that is not dependent upon realism, naturalism, under operationalism, because we cannot claim to have that knowledge, 7) If we can identify incentive, meaning, means motive and opportunity, for giving false testimony, by claiming the untestifiable then there is nothing else to determine – the person is lying. 8) In other words, theology and philosophy, negotiation and chit chat (exchange of signals of safety) seek opportunity for agreement or consent by means motive and opportunity, while, mathematics, logic, science, and law seek opportunity for falsification or decidability in dispute resolution by means motive and opportunity. In other words, if you can’t testify to a claim you’re starting out informing, negotiating, persuading, threatening by lying. Now, in a public forum at distance without direct physical contact I can’t engage in physical punishment for lying. But as a European man, defending the informational commons, I do the best I can in prose.

  • Free Speech Means Free TRUTHFUL Speech

    Feb 13, 2020, 7:52 AM

    —“Free speech is free TRUTHFUL speech. Not carte blanche to spread false allegations, lies, deception, or accusations without a demonstrated attempt at due diligence for truth. You don’t get to be a lying parasite. Your resistance proves your desire for continued parasitism. Under P-Law, truthful speech is always protected. P-Law serves as the Raid for lying deceitful parasites that the left tends to breed like roaches. Your continued slander proves only that you have no real invested time in learning Propertarianism, or do not have the cranial capacity to fully understand Propertarianism. Neither are a good excuse to troll these pages with your ill conceived illogical commentary on a subject matter you clearly have no understanding of… ..”—Clinton McLaggan

  • “Free speech is free TRUTHFUL speech. Not carte blanche to spread false allegati

    —“Free speech is free TRUTHFUL speech. Not carte blanche to spread false allegations, lies, deception, or accusations without a demonstrated attempt at due diligence for truth. You don’t get to be a lying parasite. Your resistance proves your desire for continued parasitism. Under P-Law, truthful speech is always protected. P-Law serves as the Raid for lying deceitful parasites that the left tends to breed like roaches. Your continued slander proves only that you have no real invested time in learning Propertarianism, or do not have the cranial capacity to fully understand Propertarianism. Neither are a good excuse to troll these pages with your ill conceived illogical commentary on a subject matter you clearly have no understanding of… ..”—Clinton McLaggan


    Source date (UTC): 2020-02-13 07:52:00 UTC

  • If the question is ‘who is the observer’ (which I suspect is the origin of most

    If the question is ‘who is the observer’ (which I suspect is the origin of most problems in philosophy and cognitive science) it’s memory of the last few memories recursively processed as a stream of changes in model in the hippocampal region. Consciousness is a verb not a noun.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-02-12 19:43:31 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1227679648219324416

    Reply addressees: @robinhanson

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1227679190314573825


    IN REPLY TO:

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    @robinhanson Why do I care? No more woo woo in cognitive science please. If you can’t pass the mirror test, the gesture test, sympathy test (cooperation), demonstrate natural operational grammar (language), and create multi-part tools, or enter into agreement (consent) then you’re far behind.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1227679190314573825

  • The greatest mistakes our country made were not letting the south secede, expand

    The greatest mistakes our country made were not letting the south secede, expanding the franchise to those unproductive and lacking responsibility, and the hart cellar act to open the gates to the underclasses – destroying the American experiment in a third way: middle class civ. These are followed closely by tolerating the postwar suppression of the american eugenics movement, and not brutally crushing the communist movement, marxist-postmodernist movements.

    We were tolerant in greek, roman, germanic, and british civilizations.

    Tolerance is a weakness not a virtue.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-02-12 11:12:00 UTC

  • THE RIGHT TO SELF DETERMINATION We either have the right to self determination –

    THE RIGHT TO SELF DETERMINATION

    We either have the right to self determination – or we have the right to extermination. So choose. (I’m happy either way.)

    Genomes, genetic distributions, institutions, culture, traditions, norms, manners, ethics, morals, laws, history, myth, legend, monuments, territory, are all assets. Some assets are valuable. Some are not. Some are harmful. If we choose to preserve an asset, we do so.

    1) We know that moral intuition is genetic, sex biased, and that only trauma can change it – even then only slightly. We know that all traits are somewhere between 70-80% heritable and the rest is idiosyncratic accumulation rather than patterns of environment.

    2) We know that class is genetic, with lower classes accumulating more loads (defects), upper middle the fewest, and aside from noble families, the upper classes random lottery results from the middle – but otherwise there is little to no class rotation.

    3) We know that moral biases reflect female (herd, infant-equality, devotion, consumption) strategy and the male (pack, mature-hierarchy, loyalty, capitalization) instinct and that females use social superpredation by undermining, and males political superpredation by violence.

    4) We know that each of us is born with a bias in female (lateral breadth) vs male(longitudinal velocity) brain structures, and that the stereotype of male analytic and female empathic is physical construction, and that given freedom to do so we pursue interests fitting our bias.

    5) We know that at present we are wealthy enough to want to diverge by the female, empathic, equalitarian, consumptive, infantilized, and underdeveloped strategy and some by the male, analytic, hierarchical, capitalizing, and mature strategy. And so we must separate or civil war.

    6) Because while you are of the opinion that you reason, you have very little agency. And if you did, and you had knowledge, you would know that the female strategy is dysgenic, the left’s strategy is dysgenic, and standard of living is dependent on the center of the distribution.

    7) So if you want to feel harmony in suicide and bring about another dark age of ignorance, this time with social construction of the myth of possible equality, the only result of which will be dysgenia and decline – we are fine with it.

    But you can’t take the rest of us with you.

    8) Some of us are more than semi domesticated animals sensing, perceiving, feeling, experiencing intuiting, and responding to incentives to hyper consume.

    And some of us are willing to let you turn your cities into dysgenic favelas.

    Which is what we plan to let you do.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-02-11 17:34:00 UTC

  • Anyone who tries to deny others choice genetic purity, or impurity is mentally i

    Anyone who tries to deny others choice genetic purity, or impurity is mentally ill and not fit for motherhoood, fatherhood, or continued existence.

    We either have the right to self determination – or we have the right to extermination. So choose.

    I’m happy either way.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-02-11 16:17:36 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1227265439400591360