Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology

  • I’m sure we can agree to an extent that the adoption of Christianity led to many

    https://propertarianism.com/2015/09/26/as-far-as-i-know-this-is-the-definitive-analysis-of-the-church/—“Curt, I’m sure we can agree to an extent that the adoption of Christianity led to many advancements within European society. I would like to know you’re thoughts on those who wish to see a return to the traditions of pre-Christian Europe. Not only from a religious aspect but from a societal change as well. While some people enjoy the fascinating aspects from a purely historical standpoint of pre-Christian European society what do you think the ramifications would be if such a large change took place in Europe?”—

    Well the change is here. The question is whether or not we do something about it.

    A SHORT COURSE ON THE PAST AND FUTURE OF RELIGION

    https://propertarianism.com/2015/09/26/as-far-as-i-know-this-is-the-definitive-analysis-of-the-church/

    https://propertarianism.com/2015/06/29/the-church-amplified-western-civilization-it-did-not-create-it/

    https://propertarianism.com/2016/10/07/the-church-failed-to-reform-and-the-sciences-didnt-have-time-to-complete-their-evolutionary-program/

    https://propertarianism.com/2016/11/26/christianity-judaism-and-islam-moral-or-immoral/

    https://propertarianism.com/2016/03/08/the-athenian-art-of-truth-vs-jerusalems-art-of-lying/

    https://propertarianism.com/2016/02/04/why-discuss-lies-youre-just-being-a-useful-idiot-a-host-for-lies/

    https://propertarianism.com/2016/11/23/lets-give-everyone-a-precise-language-and-for-the-discussion-of-religion/

    https://propertarianism.com/2016/05/30/the-good-in-religion-is-the-civic-ritual-not-the-content/

    https://propertarianism.com/2016/06/19/weve-been-focused-on-the-wrong-institution-we-need-the-church/

    https://propertarianism.com/2016/11/25/the-church-of-tomorrow/

    https://propertarianism.com/2016/08/17/our-new-church-lets-frame-this-question-of-the-church-correctly/


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-19 20:29:00 UTC

  • Francisco Antonio: –“QUESTION: How does mysticism compare with pseudo-science?”

    Francisco Antonio: –“QUESTION: How does mysticism compare with pseudo-science?”–

    Example

    1) Mysticism: Supernatural existence,lack of deducibility from testable experience, lack of correspondence, lack of evidence, with anthropomorphic intention, cognitive bias to justify, argument corresponds to previous types of human error. (ex: intentional design) ASSERTION: arbitrary introduction of INTENT

    2) Supernatural existence, lack of deducibility from testable experience, lack of correspondence, lack of evidence, without anthropomorphic intention, cognitive bias to justify, argument corresponds to previous types of human error. (ex: multiple worlds) ASSERTION: arbitrary introduction of EXISTENCE.

    3) the hard one is pseudorationalism, but it basically means artificial insertion of information between the premise and the conclusion. Some people mentioned Kant and Hegel today (kant’s dependence upon the excluded middle is an example).


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-18 18:48:00 UTC

  • yes i think framing nat-soc as a post-mystical religion is correct. Too bad they

    yes i think framing nat-soc as a post-mystical religion is correct. Too bad they blew it by seeking a government rather than a church.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-18 10:07:00 UTC

  • RELIGION AND REVOLUTION (very important post) Religion functions as a regulatory

    RELIGION AND REVOLUTION

    (very important post)

    Religion functions as a regulatory institution limiting culture. It is one thing to allow religious ‘ghettos’ for political utility, another to tolerate those ghettos for commercial utility, and it’s quite another to create a poly-logical cultural (normative) equivalent to the mono-logical legal system. In other words, it is no more logical(honest) to produce a poly logical legal order, than it is a poly logical ethical order, than it is to produce a poly logical aesthetic order. These are not matters of preference but of truth. And matters of truth are not positive assertions but negative prohibitions. By the possibility of prohibiting that which violates physical, natural, and informational laws, we create a market for goods, but we prohibit a market for bads.

    So the separation of church and state is incorrect. That separation is necessary not so that we may permit competing religions – not so whatsoever – but (a) to prevent the conflation of religion with law, and (b) to allow the evolution of religions increasingly compatible with informational, natural, and physical laws.

    The military, organized crimes(federal police), local crimes (local police), and sheriffs (community police) must be independent because they do not choose, they only ACT. The judiciary must be independent to prevent its conflation, misuse, and corruption as an organization that decides (chooses) not acts. The church (and I use that term very loosely to describe all forms of aesthetics) must be independent for the same reasons as the judiciary and the military – to prevent its conflation, misuse or corruption. These are regulatory bodies for (1) military:force, (2) judiciary:exchange, and (3) aesthetics:good commons.

    The academy must be independent for the same reasons as the military, judiciary, and church: to prevent its conflation, misuse, and corruption. However this limits the academy to the sciences (the true) and preserves ‘the good’ as work for the church. Ergo, the aesthetic (allegorical) disciplines then are the providence of the regulation of the church, not the research and training of the academy. The Academy may produce good as a byproduct of truth, but the church must limit the good.

    Our Laws of Nature: Physical Laws, Cooperative Laws(Natural Law), and Informational Laws (Testimonial Law) must then limit all of these disciplines.

    Our germanic ancestors unfortunately did not grasp the genius of the ethics of the germanic oath (responsibility for truth, life, property, and commons), and the utility of common over continental law which enforced this oath not only upon the citizens but on the very institutions of government and religion themselves. The germans feared anglo truth. The anglos were seduced by the commercial gains of cosmopolitan empire – as are all empires that fail.

    The national socialists did not understand what they had discovered: a post-mystical religion – one that we all desire, and (unfortunately) one that we need. They too practiced conflation. They had one piece of the institutional puzzle but not enough of it to prevent ‘bads’.

    We can create a new ‘church’ and make use of our established monuments. That church must fulfill its duty as a limiter of aesthetics, just as the military(force), and judiciary(cooperation), create limits.

    But we must not make the mistake that other civilizations have made when their primary institutions fail: conflation. The answer we seek to restore western civilization is found in the choice of: Sovereignty, and the consequential choice of Transcendence and the consequential necessity of Markets in Everything. And in the means of decidability under them: The Laws: Physical, Cooperative(Natural), and informational (testimonial). And in the specialized institutions that limit the three means of coercion: Military, Judiciary, Church. And the one institution that provides innovation: Science, Academy, School, and Gymnasium.

    The human mind seeks simple models. We call them under various terms: stereotypes, ideal types, and ideals. It’s the most simple form of comparison. We want one rule,and one institution. But this ‘want’ leads us into conflation, and conflation leads us into misuse, corruption, stagnation, and failure.

    In retrospect our ancestors practiced soveregnty and tripartism (estates of the realm), intuitively and habitually, rather than scientifically (operationally and analytically). When the economic shift provided by the end of the plagues, the evolution of the hanseatic civilization as a competitor to the mediterranean, and the scientific enlightenment, unfortunately the middle class seized power by overestimating the potential of the commercial order and the power of markets.

    The accumulated cultural capital did take a long time to spend down. But spend it down we have. And by spending it down we can claim one benefit: by analyzing our loss, we can understand our error. And having understood our error, we can repair it.

    Deconflate the conflations of the enlightenment. End the attempt to construct an institutional monopoly – the antithesis of our historical reasons for success. Restore markets in everything. Restore markets in everything by restoring a judiciary under natural law, and adding informational law to the responsibility of that judiciary. Restore the church by restoring its responsibilities, and chartering it with a new natural rather than supernatural mission. Restore the military to its pervasive position in society as the central method of emergency services of all kinds.

    How can this be done?

    – Moral Permission (we have it)

    – A set of demands (a more precise version of that which is stated above)

    – A plan of transition (a demand for a new constitution, the reformation of our institutions, and the purge of certain institutions).

    – A plan of ‘persuasion’ ( Promise violence against the status quo, then incrementally increase it, until those demands are either met- or we descend into civil war, and we impose them ourselves.)

    Why is it possible?

    – because no civilization in history other than perhaps the Late Roman or Late Ottoman has been as fragile as ours is today.

    Opportunity knocks.

    Curt Doolittle

    The Propertarian Institute

    Kiev, Ukraine


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-18 09:42:00 UTC

  • IVAN ILAKOVAC on the demarkation between moral literature and mythology. Ivan Il

    IVAN ILAKOVAC on the demarkation between moral literature and mythology.

    Ivan Ilakovac: —“I tend to place a division mark between moral literature and mythology in existence of characters. Particularity of their experience, at least for me, warranties that the writer is just trying to explore and present one of many possible variations of human experience, and then, value judgment that may or may not proceed from that experience are just particular to that experience or that character, precisely: that reproductive strategy and its biases. (I could work more on this division now that I have a clear spectrum.)”—


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-17 11:24:00 UTC

  • Merry Mithra Day. 😉

    Merry Mithra Day. 😉


    Source date (UTC): 2016-12-26 12:46:00 UTC

  • I can see us turning into The Inquisition

    I can see us turning into The Inquisition.


    Source date (UTC): 2016-12-16 21:42:00 UTC

  • It is and has always been the religion of our people. And the liars lie in order

    It is and has always been the religion of our people. And the liars lie in order to defeat us.


    Source date (UTC): 2016-12-05 16:19:54 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/805808930379202561

    Reply addressees: @MartialSociety

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/805808523313442816


    IN REPLY TO:

    @MartialSociety

    @curtdoolittle It is the only viable alternative to Islamism and liberalism.

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/805808523313442816

  • It’s a ‘4th generation religion’ so to speak, for a 4th generation era

    It’s a ‘4th generation religion’ so to speak, for a 4th generation era.


    Source date (UTC): 2016-12-05 16:19:24 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/805808801358245889

    Reply addressees: @MartialSociety

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/805808523313442816


    IN REPLY TO:

    @MartialSociety

    @curtdoolittle It is the only viable alternative to Islamism and liberalism.

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/805808523313442816

  • We have both our science, our law, and our religion. We have captured it in scie

    We have both our science, our law, and our religion. We have captured it in scientific, rational, and literary terms.


    Source date (UTC): 2016-12-05 16:16:37 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/805808102989852672

    Reply addressees: @MartialSociety

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/805807561517633537


    IN REPLY TO:

    @MartialSociety

    @curtdoolittle you hit the nail on the head with natural law fundamentalism, exactly where I was going with this

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/805807561517633537