Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology

  • “There is an intimate relation between the work of Wagner and of Nietzsche. It i

    —“There is an intimate relation between the work of Wagner and of Nietzsche. It is important to stress this relation, for Nietzsche himself made a major manoeuvre of distraction, intending to demonstrate—perhaps first of all to himself—that his work was independent of, and even opposed to, that of Richard Wagner. This exercise of concealment has strongly influenced the judgement of philosophers and intellectuals, who are naturally inclined to pay more attention to the ‘intellectual’ work of Nietzsche than to Wagner’s ‘artistic’ work.”— Daniel Gurpide


    Source date (UTC): 2018-11-06 09:03:00 UTC

  • ADAM VOIGHT: “TOLKIEN WAS SHOWING US THE MIDDLE WAY”– —“Sauron is the sort of

    –ADAM VOIGHT: “TOLKIEN WAS SHOWING US THE MIDDLE WAY”–

    —“Sauron is the sort of thing both Christians and Aryans can agree on and the Lord of the Rings is meant to show that. This is also the theme of CS Lewis’ “Abolition of Man”, where he speaks of the Tao instead of God. It is meant to be a Law of nature.”— Adam Voight

    Our ancestral method is not us good vs them evil, but us ORDER and the universe CHAOS and unpredictable.

    This is the correct understanding of our relationship to our gods. They were undependable. Fickle.

    Hence we were SUPERIOR GODS ASCENDANT.

    When we mastered fire it put us equal to the gods.

    When we mastered metal it put us superior to the gods.

    That one lesson is THE lesson.



    So I think that Tolkiens narrative, and Adam’s argument is best understood as the problem of a homogenous people against nature (our western way) and heterogeneous peoples against each other (the zoroastrian middle-eastern way).

    I mean we have evidence in our mythology of the pre-metal europeans and their religion, then the metal europeans and their religion, and that is the origin of the Vanir-Aesir divide.

    We have the western ascendance of the prophet figure of odin over the indo european ancestral gods, to create what we think of as nordic-germanic- pagan religion.

    And then we have the nordic-germanic-pagan of the Etru being overtaken by the Itals.

    And we have the southern adoption of the greek pantheon into the etru-italic thereby obscuring the ancient religion except for it’s ‘naturalism’ which the romans persisted.

    Then we had the imposition (by force) of a semitic<zoroastrian religion into europe, and it’s expansion under the ‘bribery’ of literacy and political power.

    And we have been trying desperately to restore our Natural Religion, and almost did so prior to the world wars.

    But after the world wars the Semites (marxism-feminism) and their co-conspirators the Parisians (postmodernism-feminism) and the Anglo Puritans (social democracy-feminism) worked desperately to destroy that restoration of our Natural Religion.

    All religion is political in nature, we just have so many layers of allegory and fraud and deception that it’s extremely difficult to untangle.

    REligion produces a group competitive strategy so that our many micro-decisions support that strategy, at very near zero cost, because many, many of our decisions are otherwise undecidable. As such religion teaches us that whenever possible, given any set of choices, among those that are in your self interest, then chose the decision that is ALSO in the common interest.

    This is the means by which the ‘decision economy of religion’ functions to advance – many times per day per person – the group: many micro payments into the commons.

    We can be an homogenous people against the vicissitudes of nature and transcend man into the stars and eternity or fall again victim to the heterogeneous people against the attempt at transformation, and the sedation of the many into a long sleep and hyper consumption decline by continuous regression of man into the abrahamic stupor of dysgenia, superstition, and ignorance.

    Ancestor Worship is an enrichment.

    Hinduism a subsistence.

    Buddhism is an illness.

    Abrahamism is a cancer.

    It is not that complicated.

    You just have to understand if you’re an addict.

    Some of us are not addicts.

    But those who are addicts are just as lost as those on opiates.

    Cheers


    Source date (UTC): 2018-11-06 08:48:00 UTC

  • THE ABRAHAMIC METHOD OF CIVILIZATIONAL DESTRUCTION (important concept) I refer A

    THE ABRAHAMIC METHOD OF CIVILIZATIONAL DESTRUCTION

    (important concept)

    I refer Abrahamism as a group (judaism->undermining, christianity->submitting, islam->conquering) because analysis of any SINGLE sub-religion obscures the function of the group of abrahamic religions as a force of destruction.

    Because those are the three stages of Abrahamism’s method of conquest of the aristocratic peoples by conversion and conquest of women and underclasses (those yet not ‘domesticated into agency’).

    Stage 1 – Small external population (vanguard) undermines the main by straw man criticism and ridicule of the organization and its categories relations and values (Judaism – GOSSIP: Reputation Destruction)

    Stage 2 – The population is undermined into submission by sale of a false promise – the verbal equivalent of a physical drug (Christianity – FRAUD: Selling a false promise ).

    Stage 3 – The major external population conquers the submitted through raiding the trade routes, immigration, conversion, and conquest and population replacement. (islam – FORCE).

    The consequence is the reversal of civilization of the hierarchical pack and the restoration of primitivism of the equalitarian herd.

    Only the west subsaharan africa, and the far east were able to resist the regression due to rates of underclass reproduction and raiding on aristocracy (judaism), culture (christianity), population and economy (islam).

    Understand the ancient enemy of mankind.

    Fear of being Left Behind > False Promise > Sophistry > Critique > Pilpul > Supernatural.

    Women are the most vulnerable because they evolved to be irrationally dependent upon the ‘cover’ of the herd. The underclass as well. the less capable classes out of utility. The middle class out of profit from it, and the upper class replaced by a priesthood (frauds) rather than a military (science).

    IT IS A VERY SIMPLE PROCESS ONCE UNDERSTOOD.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-11-06 08:02:00 UTC

  • Deep Meaning

    DEEP MEANING —“Eating the fruit of the tree of “good and evil”, a dichotomy, resulted in the fall of man… Perhaps the fall of man isn’t so much due to acquisition of knowledge but rather shifting the foundation of knowledge from spectra to dichotomy.”— Bill Joslin “WOTAN IS TO HELP THE MATURING MAN ABOUT IDENTIFYING THE DETAILS AND NUANCE WITHIN THE MYRIAD OF DEGREES FOUND WITHIN THE SPECTRUM BETWEEN THOSE LIMITS.” —“One of the beauties of operational thought is to exhume oneself from arguments of dichotomies to identifying spectra (the range of possibilities within limits). Eating the fruit of the tree of “good and evil”, a dichotomy, resulted in the fall of man… Perhaps the fall of man isn’t so much due to acquisition of knowledge but rather shifting the foundation of knowledge from spectra to dichotomy. There isn’t a good Wotan and an evil Wotan – there is only Wotan whose range of action and experience occurs within a spectra…. Like the rest of us – able to be ultimate asses and wise old silver backs with in one life, body and personality…. And that’s kind of the point. Dichotomies of perfectly good and perfectly bad are only useful to teach children about the tails of a spectrum… To distinguish the tails. Wotan is to help the maturing man about identifying the details and nuance within the myriad of degrees found within those limits.” —- Bill Joslin (from the “stuff I wish I’d said” department)

  • Deep Meaning

    DEEP MEANING —“Eating the fruit of the tree of “good and evil”, a dichotomy, resulted in the fall of man… Perhaps the fall of man isn’t so much due to acquisition of knowledge but rather shifting the foundation of knowledge from spectra to dichotomy.”— Bill Joslin “WOTAN IS TO HELP THE MATURING MAN ABOUT IDENTIFYING THE DETAILS AND NUANCE WITHIN THE MYRIAD OF DEGREES FOUND WITHIN THE SPECTRUM BETWEEN THOSE LIMITS.” —“One of the beauties of operational thought is to exhume oneself from arguments of dichotomies to identifying spectra (the range of possibilities within limits). Eating the fruit of the tree of “good and evil”, a dichotomy, resulted in the fall of man… Perhaps the fall of man isn’t so much due to acquisition of knowledge but rather shifting the foundation of knowledge from spectra to dichotomy. There isn’t a good Wotan and an evil Wotan – there is only Wotan whose range of action and experience occurs within a spectra…. Like the rest of us – able to be ultimate asses and wise old silver backs with in one life, body and personality…. And that’s kind of the point. Dichotomies of perfectly good and perfectly bad are only useful to teach children about the tails of a spectrum… To distinguish the tails. Wotan is to help the maturing man about identifying the details and nuance within the myriad of degrees found within those limits.” —- Bill Joslin (from the “stuff I wish I’d said” department)

  • I told ya. Religion was the hardest problem in social science. The rest was triv

    I told ya. Religion was the hardest problem in social science. The rest was trivial by comparison. But once you understand religion as a science, you are no longer bound by the limits of your experience.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-11-05 13:58:58 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1059444966831874048

  • SO WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PRAYER AND A SPELL? (Don’t be misled. This i

    SO WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PRAYER AND A SPELL?

    (Don’t be misled. This is a profoundly important topic.)


    Source date (UTC): 2018-11-05 13:31:51 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1059438145601724416

  • ANSWERED 1) Merseburg Charm (what I was looking for) 2) Anglo-Saxon Metrical Cha

    ANSWERED
    1) Merseburg Charm (what I was looking for)
    2) Anglo-Saxon Metrical Charms (the general category)


    Source date (UTC): 2018-11-05 13:30:17 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1059437750800314369

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1059424165529305088


    IN REPLY TO:

    Unknown author

    memory help: what is the name, begins with an ‘M’, of the format of magic spells in western verse. “… bone to bone, sinew to sinew…” Most ‘spells’ follow the same structure, much like a poem. These are effectively western man’s ‘prayers’. And I can’t remember the name ….

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1059424165529305088


    IN REPLY TO:

    @curtdoolittle

    memory help: what is the name, begins with an ‘M’, of the format of magic spells in western verse. “… bone to bone, sinew to sinew…” Most ‘spells’ follow the same structure, much like a poem. These are effectively western man’s ‘prayers’. And I can’t remember the name ….

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1059424165529305088

  • by Adam Voight An example of why Religion is more moral than science, engineerin

    by Adam Voight

    An example of why Religion is more moral than science, engineering, philosophy or magic.

    “Saruman” – Old English for “engineer”.

    Of course, over the long run the difference between religion and magic is contested and variable.

    This is why Odin is the sketchiest Sky Father ever. He is both Gandalf and Sauron, whom Tolkien split up into Good and Evil facets. The clue is the Nine Rings of Power given to the Ringwraiths: Odin’s Ring produced nine rings every day, and the giving of rings is typical of the lord’s gifts to his men. The phrase “Lord of the Rings” is only used once in all of Germanic lit: it refers to Beowulf, but it is so used late in the story, just before the fatal dragon episode (I cannot find it now. it mentioned during some swimming episode, perhaps in recounting his expedition against Grendel’s mom or swimming to Finnmark.)

    It seems that Tolkein saw the modern era as a struggle within the soul of Europe, between the good Odin and the bad Odin. Notice that Gandalf officiates at a wedding, something that Odin would never do; the Vanir and Thor were best for this purpose.

    Wagner also made Odin the crux of the conflict in the Ring cycle, by making Odin’s one lie to the Giants the tragic flaw that brought about Ragnarok. Odin in this version is more of a villain than in the Eddas, but shares the villainy with Alberich. In the Eddas, he is a good guy, but still crazy. Praying to him before a battle could bring victory, or it could bring you death with induction into the Einherjar.

    (CD: Thank you. exactly.)


    Source date (UTC): 2018-11-05 10:36:00 UTC

  • I told ya. Religion was the hardest problem in social science. The rest was triv

    I told ya. Religion was the hardest problem in social science. The rest was trivial by comparison. But once you understand religion as a science, you are no longer bound by the limits of your experience.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-11-05 08:58:00 UTC