Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1545400555 Timestamp) UM NO. HERE IS WHERE THEISM COMES FROM: CONFLICT AVOIDANCE AND COOPERATIVE DISCOUNTS —“Atheism can only be tenable if consciousness can be explained.”— Carl Onni A declaration not an observation. I can explain consciousness, the demand for mindfulness absent life in the band(tribe), and the means by which gods provide that mindfulness. —“But since consciousness can not be explained by a materialist paradigm; theism is tenable and atheism untenable.”— Carl Consciousness can be explained scientifically and it’s not even complicated. Within a few decades we’ll be able to both explain it biologically, and reproduce it mechanically. Sympathy/Empathy between conscious creatures is limited to shared sensations. Shared sensations and language in particular, overstate the equality of our experiences. Theism and Atheism are choices of decision models, just like theology, philosophy, history, law, and science are choices of decision models. It’s that each of these models places greater demands on our intuition or greater demands on our knowledge and reason. in other words, it’s just a question of neural economics. Particularly because the solipsism-autism (female-male) cognitive spectrum burdens us with either greater intuition (female) or greater reason (male). —“Clarification: mere matter can never explain consciousness. Because consciousness is made up of a completely different category of things (qualia) than the material (matter)”— Carl The experience of changes in state between neurological connections and the accompanying responses from our reward systems are rather easy to explain. The fact that due to informational sparseness required for our continuous forecasting (humans) rather than continuous experiencing (apes, crows, dogs ) – our mental models are inverted where chimps are almost always experiencing the present and humans vary from partly experiencing the present to entirely experiencing the forecast (model, imagination). In other words, consciousness is made of actions (verbs) and material is made of objects (nouns), and so the comparison of the two is a sophism of conflating a constant category with a continuous category. In other words, we run, we experience consciousness. They are actions. Actinos transform state they are not a state. So like most philosophical questions this one is rather dimwitted. Like I say regularly – there are no difficult philosophical questions that are not errors in grammar. If sentences are stated in operational grammar then these philosophical questions are immediately shown to be simply malformed equations. –“There is a fundamental categorical separation between them. That separation negates the explanatory value of any scientific understanding of consciousness.”– Carl Yes, continuous actions vs static states. The fact that the continuously recursive neural processing – the ‘light of the christmas tree lights’ that make up your brain – takes time to decay preserves state from millisecond to millisecond, provides you with persistence of vision across a series of changes is rather simple – and your ability to introspect on those changes is not possible because it would require a separate memory to do so. But it’s literally no more complicated than what occurs when watching a video at x frames per second. –“It will always miss the mark so to speak. Even if the “phenomenon” of consciousness where to be described perfectly down to the quark level.”— We well can explain it down to the quark level. Which is why we know we have some degree of free will: neural economy requires we assemble experience from a combination of sensory inputs and fragmentary memory. And our rather fragmentary memory is necessary in order to reduce costs sufficiently to produce speech continuously and recursively in real time. —“Some “thing” would be missing. That thing would be qualia.”— Nothing is missing other than training in how to avoid sophisms in language, how to avoid sophisms in philosophy and theology, and the general construction of brain regions and reward systems, and the general problem of solving problems with bayesian networks. In other words, any sufficiently advanced understanding appears like magic to the ignorant. There is no magic here. There is nothing supernatural here. The brain is a rather understandable object at present with the caveat that we will spend the rest of the century if not longer exploring its nuances. None of which, so far, have been more complex than we imagined in the 1950’s. We all need models in order to calculate action amidst complex social orders. We can create models with the people we have: family, band, clan, tribe, nation, man; or we can create models of imaginary families, bands, clans, tribes, nations. There is some value in using imaginary pack leaders, parents, friends, families, bands, clans, tribes, and nations, because we can idealize them and therefore neither fear judgment nor judge, fear grudges, nor begrudge, fear offense, nor be offended. By circumventing fear of judgement, grudge or offense we can relax and role play truthfully with these imaginary individuals. We can idolize them and use them as role models to calculate actions with others who also use them as role models to calculate actions with you. This is how we use imaginary pack leaders, parents, friends, families etc. With men more likely to use a pack leader and women more likely to use the consensus of the herd. FOr this very reason women are more susceptible to idealizations then men are. It is impossible to calculate the herd without models. it is rather easy to calculate using a pack leader. It’s really that simple. No. Really. It’s THAT SIMPLE. We are still carrying the intuition that evolved with us: male packs and female herds held by males. Everything else is narrative attempts to compensate for those differences and many others between the super-predators that we are.

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1545320274 Timestamp) Sure, gods exist in the minds of men, but so do numbers, math, chemistry, biology, history, socrates, and gandalf – and with the same consequences: our display word and deeds are influence heavily if not entirely determined by them.

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1545522537 Timestamp) THE OLDEST RELIGION? —“Which is the world’s oldest religion? What is the evidence of it?”— Quora The correct question is “What is the oldest political religion?”, because that is the function of all surviving religions from the Axial period. Sumerians first wrote down their religions in 3500 BCE and most political religions evolved evolved from competition with theirs. We see evidence if organized religion in Anatolia from 8–9,000 bc, predating stonehenge by 6000 years. It appears we developed religious practices (what we call sacred, but is more correctly, suppression of all self interest, status signal, and dominance expression ) no less than 40k years ago. There was our first and longest dark age around 20–21k bc. Then practices resumed, around 13k bc. it wasn’t that long – about 8000 bc – until farming, and farming creates folk religions in an and around anatolia -still burial focused. Around 5500 bc the indo europeans developed sacrificial religion, and spread it – man now bargaining with the gods. And again, by 3300 we see the rapid development of political religion in every region of eurasia. |Religion|: Burial > Sacrificial > Political > [Theraputic]

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1545522537 Timestamp) THE OLDEST RELIGION? —“Which is the world’s oldest religion? What is the evidence of it?”— Quora The correct question is “What is the oldest political religion?”, because that is the function of all surviving religions from the Axial period. Sumerians first wrote down their religions in 3500 BCE and most political religions evolved evolved from competition with theirs. We see evidence if organized religion in Anatolia from 8–9,000 bc, predating stonehenge by 6000 years. It appears we developed religious practices (what we call sacred, but is more correctly, suppression of all self interest, status signal, and dominance expression ) no less than 40k years ago. There was our first and longest dark age around 20–21k bc. Then practices resumed, around 13k bc. it wasn’t that long – about 8000 bc – until farming, and farming creates folk religions in an and around anatolia -still burial focused. Around 5500 bc the indo europeans developed sacrificial religion, and spread it – man now bargaining with the gods. And again, by 3300 we see the rapid development of political religion in every region of eurasia. |Religion|: Burial > Sacrificial > Political > [Theraputic]

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1545788481 Timestamp) There is no war between science and religion – only between science the natural law, and false religion.

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1545666396 Timestamp) SANTA – GIFTS WITHOUT DEBT by Eli Harman Santa’s a metaperson. The only way he can keep tabs on all those people, judge all those people, place all those gifts, and eat all those cookies is through division of labor. The reason we use a meta person to give gifts instead of just giving them to each other is to give gifts without giving a corresponding debt. Your debt to santa is already paid by the time you receive his gifts. You just have to keep being good if you want any more next year.

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1545788481 Timestamp) There is no war between science and religion – only between science the natural law, and false religion.

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1545666396 Timestamp) SANTA – GIFTS WITHOUT DEBT by Eli Harman Santa’s a metaperson. The only way he can keep tabs on all those people, judge all those people, place all those gifts, and eat all those cookies is through division of labor. The reason we use a meta person to give gifts instead of just giving them to each other is to give gifts without giving a corresponding debt. Your debt to santa is already paid by the time you receive his gifts. You just have to keep being good if you want any more next year.

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1546012377 Timestamp) Evolution or Scope of Religion over time. Phase 1: Burials > (Possible 1a: Marking as Monument?) > Phase 2: Sacrifices > Phase 3: Seasons > Phase 4: Politics > Phase 5: Education Each of these is rather obvious in progression as complexity increases. The only ‘evil’ here is monotheism. The greatest evil in history is Abrahamic Monotheism. And it is our duty to eradicate this mental disease from mankind over the next few centuries. It is the most important advance we can give to our people. Truth is enough.

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1546011953 Timestamp) Truth is the most intolerant religion. This is the oath of that religion: A HEATHEN, A CHRISTIAN, AN ARYAN, A WARRIOR, A MAN TRANSCENDENT I am a Heathen if 1) I accept the laws of nature as binding on all of existence; and 2) if I treat nature as sacred and to be contemplated, protected and improved; and 3) I treat the world as something to transform closer to a Garden in whatever ways I can before I die; and 4) if I deny the existence of supreme beings with dominion over the physical laws; and I treat all gods, demigods, heroes, saints, figures of history, and ancestors as characters with whom I may speak to in private contemplation in the hope of gaining wisdom and synchronicity from having done so. And 5) if I participate with others of my society in repetition of oaths, repetition of myths, repetition of festivals, repetition of holidays, and the perpetuation of all of the above to my offspring. And 6) if I leave open that synchronicity appears to exist now and then, and that it may be possible that there is a scientific explanation for it, other than just humans subject to similar stimuli producing similar intuitions and therefore similar ends. As far as I know this is all that is required of me to be a Heathen: the Worship(Appreciation) of Kin, Hearth and Home. I am a christian if I have adopted the teaching of christianity: 1) the eradication of hatred from the human heart. 2) the extension of kinship love to non-kin. 3) the demand for personal acts of charity, 4) the extension of exhaustive forgiveness before punishment, enserfment, enslavement, death, or war. As far as I know, this is all that is required of me to be a Christian. I am an Aryan if 1) I proudly display my excellences so that others seek to achieve or exceed them; 2) I seek competition to constantly test and improve myself so I do not weaken; 3) I swear to speak no insult and demand it; 4) I speak the truth and demand it; 5) I take nothing not paid for and demand it; 6) I grant sovereignty to my kin and demand it; 7) I insure my people regardless of condition, and demand it; and in doing so leave nothing but voluntary markets of cooperation between sovereign men; and to discipline, enserf, enslave, ostracize or kill those who do otherwise; 8) to not show fear or cowardice, abandon my brothers, or retreat, and 9) to die a good death in the service of my kin, my clan, my tribe and my people. As far as I know, this is all that is required of me to be an Aryan. I am a warrior in that 1) we will prepare for war so perfectly that none dare enter it against us. 2) Once we go to war, we do so with joy, with eagerness, and with passion, and without mercy, without constraint, and without remorse; And 3) before ending war, we shall defeat an enemy completely such that no other dares a condition of our enemy, and the memory of the slaughter lives a hundred generations. As far as I know, this is all that is required of me to be a Warrior. As far as I know, if I succeed as a Heathen, as a Christian, as an Aryan, as a Warrior, then I have transcended the animal man, and earned my place among the saints, heroes, demigods, gods, in the memories, histories, and legends of man. And that is the objective of heroes. We leave the rest for ordinary men who are still animals, and not man transcendent.