Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1544804659 Timestamp) THOMAS JEFFERSON ON JESUS AS JUST A PHILOSOPHER —-“The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth, commonly referred to as the Jefferson Bible, refers to one of two religious works constructed by Thomas Jefferson. The first, The Philosophy of Jesus of Nazareth, was completed in 1804, but no copies exist today.[1] The second, The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth, was completed in 1820 by cutting and pasting with a razor and glue numerous sections from the New Testament as extractions of the doctrine of Jesus. Jefferson’s condensed composition is especially notable for its exclusion of all miracles by Jesus and most mentions of the supernatural, including sections of the four gospels that contain the Resurrection and most other miracles, and passages that portray Jesus as divine.”— THE JEFFERSON BIBLE (20 Pages) http://www.pattonhq.com/links/uccministry/jeffbible.pdf

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1544920571 Timestamp) No religion should require you believe a falsehood – only pay the cost of initiation and ongoing rituals in exchange for personal, interpersonal, social, political, and universal mindfulness. There is nothing false in the natural law of sovereignty reciprocity, truth, duty, charity, and markets in everything. There is nothing false in the elimination of hatred from the human heart, the extension of kinship love of family to the polity, personal acts of charity, and the exhaustion of forgiveness before abandonment or punishment. There is nothing false in ritual thanks to one another, to our ancestors, to those who made our existence possible, to the natural world, to the universe, and to the universe’s god – in whatever form that might be. There is nothing false in their parables, their myths, their histories other than their ignorance and vulnerability of time and place. There is nothing false in the ritual training of the body, intuition(soul), memory(knowledge), reason (calculation), ethics, morality, the law, and the skills with which to prosper. There is nothing false in that combination of of which will cause us, and any who likewise do the same, to transcend into the gods we have not yet made. That is not a sentimental argument. It is the optimum order for human beings. There is none better possible. It’s just science.

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1544920924 Timestamp) I feel history of the universe and man, and this world, and the natural world ‘spiritually’. But this is because I can. I understand that each of us has a range of possible comprehension and possible imagination and possible experience. Any religon that is not a barrier to transcendence (evolution) must provide a range of narratives (worlds) that supply the market demand for our different abilities.

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1544919791 Timestamp) (I know the religion thing is painful but I am very close to finished with it. Most people want a new religion. I want to restore the church and family as the central institution of our society, and eliminate the state-finance-consumption sector as a means of preying upon our people. To make that work requires another reformation. Not to the exclusion of the protestant one. But to restore a religion for OUR people. And it doesn’t mean I have to invent it. I just have to put the box around it to protect whatever is there. So i’m sorry if it’s offensive but it’s got to be done. Even atheists have a religion, they just can’t articulate it as one. And the one we have is dying along with the next generation.)

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1544920571 Timestamp) No religion should require you believe a falsehood – only pay the cost of initiation and ongoing rituals in exchange for personal, interpersonal, social, political, and universal mindfulness. There is nothing false in the natural law of sovereignty reciprocity, truth, duty, charity, and markets in everything. There is nothing false in the elimination of hatred from the human heart, the extension of kinship love of family to the polity, personal acts of charity, and the exhaustion of forgiveness before abandonment or punishment. There is nothing false in ritual thanks to one another, to our ancestors, to those who made our existence possible, to the natural world, to the universe, and to the universe’s god – in whatever form that might be. There is nothing false in their parables, their myths, their histories other than their ignorance and vulnerability of time and place. There is nothing false in the ritual training of the body, intuition(soul), memory(knowledge), reason (calculation), ethics, morality, the law, and the skills with which to prosper. There is nothing false in that combination of of which will cause us, and any who likewise do the same, to transcend into the gods we have not yet made. That is not a sentimental argument. It is the optimum order for human beings. There is none better possible. It’s just science.

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1544805635 Timestamp) JEFFERSON ON RELIGON —“The religious views of Thomas Jefferson diverged widely from the orthodox Christianity of his era. Throughout his life, Jefferson was intensely interested in theology, religious studies, and morality. Jefferson was most comfortable with Deism, rational religion, and Unitarianism. He was sympathetic to and in general agreement with the moral precepts of Christianity.[4] He considered the teachings of Jesus as having “the most sublime and benevolent code of morals which has ever been offered to man,”[5] yet he held that the pure teachings of Jesus appeared to have been appropriated by some of Jesus’ early followers, resulting in a Bible that contained both “diamonds” of wisdom and the “dung” of ancient political agendas.[6] Still, together with James Madison, Jefferson carried on a long and successful campaign against state financial support of churches in Virginia. Also, it is Jefferson who coined the phrase “wall of separation between church and state” in his 1802 letter to the Danbury Baptists of Connecticut. During his 1800 campaign for the presidency, Jefferson even had to contend with critics who argued that he was unfit to hold office because of their discomfort with his “unorthodox” religious beliefs. In a letter to John Adams dated August 22, 1813, Jefferson named Joseph Priestly (an English Unitarian who moved to America) and Conyers Middleton (an English Deist) as his religious inspirations.[9] Jefferson used certain passages of the New Testament to compose The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth (the “Jefferson Bible”), which excluded any miracles by Jesus and stressed his moral message. Though he often expressed his opposition to many practices of the clergy, and to many specific popular Christian doctrines of his day, Jefferson repeatedly expressed his admiration for Jesus as a moral teacher, and consistently referred to himself as a Christian (though following his own unique type of Christianity) throughout his life. Jefferson opposed Calvinism, Trinitarianism, and what he identified as Platonic elements in Christianity. In private letters Jefferson also described himself as subscribing to other certain philosophies, in addition to being a Christian. In these letters he described himself as also being an “Epicurean” (1819),[10] a “19th century materialist” (1820),[11] a “Unitarian by myself” (1825),[12] and “a sect by myself” (1819).[13] Upon the disestablishment of religion in Connecticut, he wrote to John Adams: “I join you, therefore, in sincere congratulations that this den of the priesthood is at length broken up, and that a Protestant Popedom is no longer to disgrace the American history and character.”—

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1544919791 Timestamp) (I know the religion thing is painful but I am very close to finished with it. Most people want a new religion. I want to restore the church and family as the central institution of our society, and eliminate the state-finance-consumption sector as a means of preying upon our people. To make that work requires another reformation. Not to the exclusion of the protestant one. But to restore a religion for OUR people. And it doesn’t mean I have to invent it. I just have to put the box around it to protect whatever is there. So i’m sorry if it’s offensive but it’s got to be done. Even atheists have a religion, they just can’t articulate it as one. And the one we have is dying along with the next generation.)

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1545060927 Timestamp) That jesus will forgive you is in practice true – for rather complex reasons, all of which are scientific if your concept of deities is that they consist of information distributed between minds. In this sense deities exist as numbers exist – and all of them exist. They have no control over nature but vast influence and control over the minds and actions of humans.

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1545060927 Timestamp) That jesus will forgive you is in practice true – for rather complex reasons, all of which are scientific if your concept of deities is that they consist of information distributed between minds. In this sense deities exist as numbers exist – and all of them exist. They have no control over nature but vast influence and control over the minds and actions of humans.

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    (FB 1545060768 Timestamp) —“How do we repair our religions? Curt Doolittle, what do you think”—Muhamed Dukmak (a) no more lies (b) make lies prosecutable in court so that the state can’t intervene, (c) prosecute liars for profit until there are no more lies. (d) let our religions adapt to the prohibition on lies, (e) try to organize new religions (which is likely to include restoration of our folk religions), (f) and let the natural self interest of all of us take its course.