(FB 1544299862 Timestamp) —If we had the icelandic church here I would go. I don’t care about desert dwelling sheep-f–kers. I want to hear the history of our people, and the lessons that we can learn from that. Learn from men who are gods not slaves.—
Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1544298380 Timestamp) WHAT DO THESE RELIGIOUS TERMS MEAN? You won’t like the answers…. What do the rituals mean? Membership Fees. What is sacrament? Debt Creation. What is atonement? Debt Repayment. What is baptism? Debt Forgiveness What is the priesthood? Accountant. I told you that you wouldn’t like the answers. All these ‘fancy words’ are code words for debt for creatures who are extremely sensitive to proportionality. (reciprocity). Christianity consists uniquely of just the rules I stated, respect for the women and slaves, in retaliation against tripartism and aristocracy, and nothing else. Everything else is simply our pre-literate western tradition
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1544299862 Timestamp) —If we had the icelandic church here I would go. I don’t care about desert dwelling sheep-f–kers. I want to hear the history of our people, and the lessons that we can learn from that. Learn from men who are gods not slaves.—
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1544293231 Timestamp) I just want to point out that Anglo Christians run away like cowards when challenged. Russians don’t run. They watch. They correct errors. They listen. They learn. They hold their faith. Why? Because faith is not something to argue like the law. Orthodoxy didn’t malinvest in christianity, because christianity never was the source of Russian corruption of oppression or parasitism. It certainly was in europe. One simply performs christian rituals and learns from them. One does not treat them as logic, law, or science. And one does not cower from the the dissonance between faith, reason, and science. Germans are similar in that they all too often cannot conceive of the difference between the moral, good, and true. They straddle the world. However, they are the most ‘correct’ of the civilizations – at least prior to the world wars under which their prussianism was conquered ‘unjustly’. So again, the high trust west, lower trust catholics, lower trust orthodox, and lowest trust east asians. A division of labor of the circumpolar peoples. High risk and innovation to low risk and conservation. Christianity is weak because christians are weak.
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1544298380 Timestamp) WHAT DO THESE RELIGIOUS TERMS MEAN? You won’t like the answers…. What do the rituals mean? Membership Fees. What is sacrament? Debt Creation. What is atonement? Debt Repayment. What is baptism? Debt Forgiveness What is the priesthood? Accountant. I told you that you wouldn’t like the answers. All these ‘fancy words’ are code words for debt for creatures who are extremely sensitive to proportionality. (reciprocity). Christianity consists uniquely of just the rules I stated, respect for the women and slaves, in retaliation against tripartism and aristocracy, and nothing else. Everything else is simply our pre-literate western tradition
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1544292535 Timestamp) (HINT: What I am doing is teaching you how to deflate that form of law, education, and indoctrination we call religion into constituent parts, and therefore give you the vocabulary to discuss it as operations rather than ideals.)
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1544292535 Timestamp) (HINT: What I am doing is teaching you how to deflate that form of law, education, and indoctrination we call religion into constituent parts, and therefore give you the vocabulary to discuss it as operations rather than ideals.)
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1544289574 Timestamp) IS IT POSSIBLE TO ELIMINATE RELIGION? Well yes, but again, it’s not possible to deny that religion did serve as a (very) cheap (simple) universal (available to morons) education (training) in mindfulness (and sacredness – non-consumption ), and in the positive laws (manners, ethics, morals, rituals, traditions) in an era where only the privileged could get an education. The only difficult education in that list is mindfulness and stoicism was clearly the best of all methods of mindfulness discovered in both the ancient world and the present (cognitive behavioral therapy). The rest is just ordinary education through repetition (ritual) and oath (prayer). There is nothing else other than the act of doing all that repetition and oath in public. There is some advantage and giving that oath to a proxy (ancestor, king, hero, god) rather than to each other – those with whom we have material conflicts. That abrahamism and the abrahamic religions are outright evil is not to say that the category of training (education) religions provided is not both beneficial, and very likely, necessary – because it’s as unnatural as reading and math. The question is how can we convert the depreciating asset that is our existing religious infrastructure into a new asset that is appreciating, and removes the vulnerability and harm of the past.
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1544289574 Timestamp) IS IT POSSIBLE TO ELIMINATE RELIGION? Well yes, but again, it’s not possible to deny that religion did serve as a (very) cheap (simple) universal (available to morons) education (training) in mindfulness (and sacredness – non-consumption ), and in the positive laws (manners, ethics, morals, rituals, traditions) in an era where only the privileged could get an education. The only difficult education in that list is mindfulness and stoicism was clearly the best of all methods of mindfulness discovered in both the ancient world and the present (cognitive behavioral therapy). The rest is just ordinary education through repetition (ritual) and oath (prayer). There is nothing else other than the act of doing all that repetition and oath in public. There is some advantage and giving that oath to a proxy (ancestor, king, hero, god) rather than to each other – those with whom we have material conflicts. That abrahamism and the abrahamic religions are outright evil is not to say that the category of training (education) religions provided is not both beneficial, and very likely, necessary – because it’s as unnatural as reading and math. The question is how can we convert the depreciating asset that is our existing religious infrastructure into a new asset that is appreciating, and removes the vulnerability and harm of the past.
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1544288676 Timestamp) CAN WE ELIMINATE RELIGION? NOT REALLY, BUT THAT REQUIRES WE DEFINE RELIGION AS MARKET DEMANDS RATHER THAN THE CURRENT MEANS OF PRODUCTION. —“However unrealistic of a goal it might be, wouldn’t the ideal situation be a world without organised religion? Or is there some benefit to religion that I’m not seeing?”—Dann Hopkins Religion is just education. that’s all. Period. The ‘trick’ of both church and state is to claim church does no education, or that state education is sufficient. We need training in physical fitness, mindfulness, manners-ethics-morals-rituals (payments to the commons), the laws, the means of calculating that we think of as the 3R’s, the skills to run a household, and the skills for employment. It does not, as it once did, provide for physical fitness. It provides mindfulness in the personal, interpersonal, and public spheres of life. It provides the some of the manners, ethics, morals rituals that are the positive laws of the social order (not negative laws as is law proper). It provides a venue for public contract making (this is my child, this is my promise to the community, this is my mate, this is our property, this person has died and his or her property may be distributed). It is, to some degree, a computational necessity – meaning that it is very bad not to have that mindfulness. It provides child-level parables and myths which are no less a form of calculation about action in the world than are laws, logic, and mathematics. But there is no reason we cannot have lessons, parables and mythos and histories for each class of people at each stage of their lives, all of which contain the same messages. There is no reason the church rather than the school, post office, or library is not still the center of civic life, and that government is not relegated to the production and maintenance of material commons, just as we keep commerce out of religion. So I think I have most of this figured out – not that I am interested in the content in and of itself, but that I understand how to frame the problem, and restore the incentives, such that the second abrahamic dark age does not capture our people.