Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology

  • Religion and The Sects

    Religion and The Sects https://propertarianism.com/2020/05/09/religion-and-the-sects/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-05-09 19:39:19 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1259206332177055749

  • Religion and The Sects

    Apr 25, 2020, 8:59 PM Religion combines wisdom literature, rituals, and social assembly to create personal, interpersonal, social, and political mindfulness with of a system of intuitive, coherent measurement, that relieves the pre-consious brain of stress about status, conflict, and uncertainty. We gain the elation of the primitive animal running with, hunting, feasting, resting, and safety within the pack (herd). Narratives (stories) using archetypes (expressions of instincts) are the most imprecise but universal and easily understood system of measurement. Christianity works. Religion works. Institutions, traditions, laws, and norms work. For the same reason: error elimination on one hand, and norm creation on the other, together which reduce cognitive load, which reduce stress, which maintains self image, which maintains status in interacting with others. Of the christian sects it appears that we find the best of something in each group. In evangelical protestantism we find the closest to Jesus’ teachings. In orthodoxy we find the preservation of tradition, and nationalism. In Catholicism we find an attempt at an intellectual and philosophical expansion of the underlying theology. In secular christianity we find the completion of the christian evolution into the via negativa natural law AND via positiva christian love. I can quite easily explain what we find as failing in each of those traditions – most of which result in (a) universalism (b) failure to accommodate the fundamental, ritualistic-traditional, phiosophical-moral, and scientific spectrum – and worse, a failure to integrate and retain our martial gods and their teachings – that saved us in the real world when christianity failed. I admit when I’m wrong all the time. I make many mistakes (irrelevant) but I err (relevant) very infrequently. Not because I am special but because the P-method makes it very, very, difficult to err.

  • Religion and The Sects

    Apr 25, 2020, 8:59 PM Religion combines wisdom literature, rituals, and social assembly to create personal, interpersonal, social, and political mindfulness with of a system of intuitive, coherent measurement, that relieves the pre-consious brain of stress about status, conflict, and uncertainty. We gain the elation of the primitive animal running with, hunting, feasting, resting, and safety within the pack (herd). Narratives (stories) using archetypes (expressions of instincts) are the most imprecise but universal and easily understood system of measurement. Christianity works. Religion works. Institutions, traditions, laws, and norms work. For the same reason: error elimination on one hand, and norm creation on the other, together which reduce cognitive load, which reduce stress, which maintains self image, which maintains status in interacting with others. Of the christian sects it appears that we find the best of something in each group. In evangelical protestantism we find the closest to Jesus’ teachings. In orthodoxy we find the preservation of tradition, and nationalism. In Catholicism we find an attempt at an intellectual and philosophical expansion of the underlying theology. In secular christianity we find the completion of the christian evolution into the via negativa natural law AND via positiva christian love. I can quite easily explain what we find as failing in each of those traditions – most of which result in (a) universalism (b) failure to accommodate the fundamental, ritualistic-traditional, phiosophical-moral, and scientific spectrum – and worse, a failure to integrate and retain our martial gods and their teachings – that saved us in the real world when christianity failed. I admit when I’m wrong all the time. I make many mistakes (irrelevant) but I err (relevant) very infrequently. Not because I am special but because the P-method makes it very, very, difficult to err.

  • The Secularization Debate

    The Secularization Debate https://propertarianism.com/2020/05/09/the-secularization-debate/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-05-09 19:38:53 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1259206225343979522

  • The Secularization Debate

    Apr 26, 2020, 9:37 AM Read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secularization And This Philip S. Gorski (2000) “Historicizing the Secularization Debate: Church, State, and Society in Late Medieval and Early Modern Europe, ca. 1300 to 1700” American Sociological Review (65:1) Special Issue: “Looking Forward, Looking Back: Continuity and Change at the Turn of the Millenium” pp. 138-167 http://www.jstor.org/stable/2657295 The Disciplinary Revolution In his 2003 book, The Disciplinary Revolution: Calvinism and the Rise of the State in Early Modern Europe,[5] Gorski offers a new explanation for the rise of a strong, centralized nation-state in certain areas of Europe in early Modernity, when other areas were not as successful.[citation needed] Gorski rejects[citation needed] two of the dominant explanations, which are the bellicist explanation, which sees military growth as key to the emergence of strong states, and the neo-Marxist explanation, which sees economic factors as key to the explanation. Instead, Gorski points to the strong influence of religion in the formation of strong states. Specifically, Gorski sees Calvinism as crucial to the emergence of the Netherlands and Prussia as strong, centralized states, because of its emphasis on discipline and public order. The effects of Calvinism could be seen in crime rates, in education, in military effectiveness, in financial responsibility, and many other parts of Dutch and Prussian social life, all of which increased their ability to form bureaucratic states.[citation needed] Where in the Netherlands the effect of Calvinism was from the ground upwards, as most of its population was indeed Calvinist, in Prussia—where most of the population was Lutheran and only the royal house was Calvinist—the effect was from the rulers downwards (to some extent through the Pietist Lutheran movement, which was influenced by Calvinism).[citation needed]

  • The Secularization Debate

    Apr 26, 2020, 9:37 AM Read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secularization And This Philip S. Gorski (2000) “Historicizing the Secularization Debate: Church, State, and Society in Late Medieval and Early Modern Europe, ca. 1300 to 1700” American Sociological Review (65:1) Special Issue: “Looking Forward, Looking Back: Continuity and Change at the Turn of the Millenium” pp. 138-167 http://www.jstor.org/stable/2657295 The Disciplinary Revolution In his 2003 book, The Disciplinary Revolution: Calvinism and the Rise of the State in Early Modern Europe,[5] Gorski offers a new explanation for the rise of a strong, centralized nation-state in certain areas of Europe in early Modernity, when other areas were not as successful.[citation needed] Gorski rejects[citation needed] two of the dominant explanations, which are the bellicist explanation, which sees military growth as key to the emergence of strong states, and the neo-Marxist explanation, which sees economic factors as key to the explanation. Instead, Gorski points to the strong influence of religion in the formation of strong states. Specifically, Gorski sees Calvinism as crucial to the emergence of the Netherlands and Prussia as strong, centralized states, because of its emphasis on discipline and public order. The effects of Calvinism could be seen in crime rates, in education, in military effectiveness, in financial responsibility, and many other parts of Dutch and Prussian social life, all of which increased their ability to form bureaucratic states.[citation needed] Where in the Netherlands the effect of Calvinism was from the ground upwards, as most of its population was indeed Calvinist, in Prussia—where most of the population was Lutheran and only the royal house was Calvinist—the effect was from the rulers downwards (to some extent through the Pietist Lutheran movement, which was influenced by Calvinism).[citation needed]

  • The Feet of Clay (stagnation)

    Apr 29, 2020, 11:15 AM by Bjarg Jonsson Each pagan god or goddess typically contained well rounded attributes, not just one. Freya, usually associated with sex and fertility, received first choice of the battle slain for her hall. Freya was followed by some warriors as their patron goddess. Thor, the god of the common man, was also associated with fertility. His hammer was placed in the lap of a new bride, to bless the marriage with children. Odin/Woden/Wotan, the god of the nobility, was not very popular. He was associated with death (the business of nobility). He was associated with the boatman, ferryman, disapater, selector and conductor of the slain. God of the subconscious and dark places. The cost of reciprocity with Odin could be death, he is a collector of the select dead. All of these gods were caught up in an epic struggle, which was cyclical. The cycle would end and begin again. It was a mythology, which brought order. Each diety could play the central part for that diety’s followers. The big G god, is everything all together and therefore unknowable or comprehensible. Pagan gods are not everywhere or all knowing. The Romans of the time considered Christians to be atheists. The big G was beyond understanding and certainly not a Phonecian thunder god adopted as the Hebrew big G or the rabbi version of Mythris. The Christians gave themselves feet of clay when they went from mythology to saying their cosmology was fact and without error. The great falling away was in the cards when they lost the capability of killing people for pointing out the obvious. The power is in the myth (J. Campbell). If not then the sword, I suppose.

  • I emphasize religion because you don’t understand that your ‘religion’ (binding

    I emphasize religion because you don’t understand that your ‘religion’ (binding narrative) is nation to justify monopoly bureaucracy. Our ‘religion’ is abstract, to maintain harmony despite a market of many small competing states. Chinese are low trust and can’t understand.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-05-09 12:37:16 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1259100120731258880

    Reply addressees: @HaiTaoYang9

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1259099194888908800

  • We should not be fighting because only china and west and india vs the enemy of

    We should not be fighting because only china and west and india vs the enemy of judaism and islam – Islam destroys from within. Christianity makes weak from within. Look to the good of both civilizations so that we see the bad of our only enemy.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-05-09 12:32:00 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1259098794739802115

    Reply addressees: @HaiTaoYang9

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1259098345131380737


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    @HaiTaoYang9 So this is why you have your history:Monopoly bureaucracy and hierarchy, and why we have our history: Markets in everything including government, mediated by our law. This is why we have HIGH TRUST and truth before face, and you have low trust, corruption and face before truth.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1259098345131380737

  • THE FEET OF CLAY (STAGNATION) by Bjarg Jonsson Each pagan god or goddess typical

    THE FEET OF CLAY (STAGNATION)

    by Bjarg Jonsson

    Each pagan god or goddess typically contained well rounded attributes, not just one. Freya, usually associated with sex and fertility, received first choice of the battle slain for her hall. Freya was followed by some warriors as their patron goddess.

    Thor, the god of the common man, was also associated with fertility. His hammer was placed in the lap of a new bride, to bless the marriage with children.

    Odin/Woden/Wotan, the god of the nobility, was not very popular. He was associated with death (the business of nobility). He was associated with the boatman, ferryman, disapater, selector and conductor of the slain. God of the subconscious and dark places. The cost of reciprocity with Odin could be death, he is a collector of the select dead.

    All of these gods were caught up in an epic struggle, which was cyclical. The cycle would end and begin again. It was a mythology, which brought order. Each diety could play the central part for that diety’s followers.

    The big G god, is everything all together and therefore unknowable or comprehensible. Pagan gods are not everywhere or all knowing.

    The Romans of the time considered Christians to be atheists. The big G was beyond understanding and certainly not a Phonecian thunder god adopted as the Hebrew big G or the rabbi version of Mythris.

    The Christians gave themselves feet of clay when they went from mythology to saying their cosmology was fact and without error.

    The great falling away was in the cards when they lost the capability of killing people for pointing out the obvious.

    The power is in the myth (J. Campbell). If not then the sword, I suppose.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-29 11:15:00 UTC