Category: Religion, Myth, and Theology

  • Lumping Abrahamic Religons

    Jan 31, 2020, 8:37 PM by Anne Summers with Curt

    [That collection of posts on Christianity] only explains / compares female/r capacity and ethnic judaic group strategy. I still don’t see what exactly Christianity is in this. On the one hand Christianity is founded by a pretty alright dude (Jesus) who, for the most part got things right. His teachings seem a bit too radicle for his Semite Bros and are accepted into (found compatible enough for the [female] population of Europe).

    ( CD: Correct. )

    You seem to lump all three religions together in tone as well as origin. I see the origins a little different… Judaic was K and converted to r and subterfuge for survival. Islam started out r and turned feral (Mohamed is very r) and Christianity is (In my opinion) full on K. Human individualism is a constant act of sin against the commons. It takes self sacrifice to correct the damage done to the commons. I grant that there are a lot of christians who are r, or deeply poisoned by Marxist culturalism. I can’t speak for them. And maybe, in a way my questioning you and partially answering my own questions has clarified my own take on Christianity. Thanks for such an opportunity of the thought dive.


    Very, very, good Anne Summers Damn. Impressed. As for this quote:

    —“You seem to lump all three religions together in tone as well as origin. I see the origins a little different… Judaic was K and converted to r and subterfuge for survival. “—

    Because I disambiguate the method of arguing the religion with the content of it. The content is fine. But the abrahamic method of deceit that is used to create the monotheistic religions is the same method used to create the false promises and undermining of marxism, cultural marxism, feminism, postmodernism, and politcal correctness (denialism). So if I want to end that category of lying and protect our people from undermining by the false promise of abrahamic deceit, then I am sort of stuck with scientifically explaining christianity, following jefferson’s example of the Jeffferson Bible ( thin new testament) and discovering some way of combining our ancestral religions so that we get the benefits of them without the cancer of abrahamism. So that is what you’re not seeing. And that’s why it’s not making sense to you.

  • Lumping Abrahamic Religons

    Jan 31, 2020, 8:37 PM by Anne Summers with Curt

    [That collection of posts on Christianity] only explains / compares female/r capacity and ethnic judaic group strategy. I still don’t see what exactly Christianity is in this. On the one hand Christianity is founded by a pretty alright dude (Jesus) who, for the most part got things right. His teachings seem a bit too radicle for his Semite Bros and are accepted into (found compatible enough for the [female] population of Europe).

    ( CD: Correct. )

    You seem to lump all three religions together in tone as well as origin. I see the origins a little different… Judaic was K and converted to r and subterfuge for survival. Islam started out r and turned feral (Mohamed is very r) and Christianity is (In my opinion) full on K. Human individualism is a constant act of sin against the commons. It takes self sacrifice to correct the damage done to the commons. I grant that there are a lot of christians who are r, or deeply poisoned by Marxist culturalism. I can’t speak for them. And maybe, in a way my questioning you and partially answering my own questions has clarified my own take on Christianity. Thanks for such an opportunity of the thought dive.


    Very, very, good Anne Summers Damn. Impressed. As for this quote:

    —“You seem to lump all three religions together in tone as well as origin. I see the origins a little different… Judaic was K and converted to r and subterfuge for survival. “—

    Because I disambiguate the method of arguing the religion with the content of it. The content is fine. But the abrahamic method of deceit that is used to create the monotheistic religions is the same method used to create the false promises and undermining of marxism, cultural marxism, feminism, postmodernism, and politcal correctness (denialism). So if I want to end that category of lying and protect our people from undermining by the false promise of abrahamic deceit, then I am sort of stuck with scientifically explaining christianity, following jefferson’s example of the Jeffferson Bible ( thin new testament) and discovering some way of combining our ancestral religions so that we get the benefits of them without the cancer of abrahamism. So that is what you’re not seeing. And that’s why it’s not making sense to you.

  • The Compromise Between Europeans and Christians Is the Same as Between Men and W

    The Compromise Between Europeans and Christians Is the Same as Between Men and Women: A Trade https://propertarianism.com/2020/05/24/the-compromise-between-europeans-and-christians-is-the-same-as-between-men-and-women-a-trade/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-05-24 23:35:37 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1264701618395795457

  • The Compromise Between Europeans and Christians Is the Same as Between Men and Women: A Trade

    —-“Stop your Nietzscheanism. At least Christianity allows for forgiveness and cancel culture don’t. “We are all sinners,” don’t forget that.”—Haniel @HanielAzzi

    Cancel Culture (marxism, neo-marxism, postmodernism, feminism, and difference-denialism) are just christianity v2: undermining meritocracy, reason, evidence, and testimony by replacing the false promise of life after death with the false promise of equality after replacement. Cancel culture is just the strategy of women to undermine, just as christianity is the strategy of women to create social constructions. This is because women are fearful because their bodies evolved to supply fetuses rather then muscles and speed, they’re nervous systems evolved to include their offspring, and verbal ability a discount on manipulating children. And because of these adaptations they’re physically weaker, and emotionally neurotic, but verbally superior, and so they compete as they can by manipulation, using the positive range of seductions: feeding, caring, nurturing, and informing, and the negative spectrum of disinformations: approval and disapproval vs truth or falsehood, half truth vs complete truth, undermining vs debate, resistance and advocacy vs boycott and cooperation, short term devotion vs persistent loyalty. There are no gods, no heaven, no sins. Only myth, evolution, and crimes. Crimes of violating physical, natural, and evolutionary laws, by acts of irreciprocity in display, word, or deed, that resist our evolution into the gods we imagined by truth, science, technology and markets. We are the only gods that may yet be. And in the test of civilizations, only western man discovered the laws of the universe and adapted their civilization to mirror them. If there were gods, europeans would be the chosen people, Aristotle their prophet, and truth their scripture. Christianity is the religion of false promise, ignorance, deceit, manipulation, en-serfment, poverty, and the dark ages, that asks women, slaves, and the weak, to submit to a false god, of an alien people, who produced nothing except lies, usury, rent seeking, and organized crime. Simple people need lies and social construction to reinforce them against insecurities, worries, stresses, slights, signaling, and status pressures in order to sedate their neuroticism from the pressures of low status and low agency – providing the illusion of understanding and control. It is sufficient for them, just as fairy tales are for children. To say we all need mindfulness: personal, interpersonal, social, political, and metaphysical is nothing more than to state we need to limit the cost of a neural economy frustrated by incalculability of status in the chaos outside the life of the hunting-gathering tribe. To say that pagan ‘religion’, aryan, stoic, epicurean values solved the problem of masculine religions, but did not solve the problem of feminine religion (traditional religion of the hearth), is simply to note that Rome expanded into old poor, majority underclass, semitic civilization without first solving the problem of producing a religion of women, slaves, and underclasses – is simply to say that we grew too fast under aryanism in the ancient world just as we are growing too fast under aryanism in the modern world – and that rates of adaptation reflect confidence, agency(conscientiousness), intelligence, and neuroticism – which is what separates the genders and classes. In a rapidly evolving commercial empire under Western Rome, and a collapsing commercial empire under Eastern Byzantium, Christianity provided women, slaves, and the underclasses a means of obtaining self-worth, and status by demanding reciprocal behavior despite their lack of physical, emotional, mental, social, economic, political agency. Monotheism is the religion of the herd not yet human. But the enduring values of our civlization are not semitic christian – they’re four thousand years old, first captured in writing by the Greeks: Excellence and Beauty, Heroism and Duty, Truth and Oath, Sovereignty and Reciprocity, Jury and Law, and resulting markets in everything as the only means of survival: evolution. This set of values – despite that they were only metaphysical, traditional, and institutional, functioned as the operating principle for western civilization that produced the fastest innovation and adaptation possible by man, and dragged mankind out of ignorance, superstition, hard labor, poverty, starvation, disease, suffering and early death. The restoration of Aristotelian thought, northern and Atlantic trade, the contractualism that trade demanded, the printing and literacy that resulted, re-harmonized our scholarly thought with our social, commercial, legal, and military thought restored european civilization. The 20th century false promises are just the second attempt to destroy western civlization from within – by marxism neo-marxism, postmodernism, feminism, and human difference denialism – planted the fertile minds already accustomed to false promise as escape from reality. The dirty secret of western civlization, is that the martial aristocracy created western civilization by profiting from the incremental domestication man like they domesticated animals, using incremental slavery, serfdom, freedom, citizenship, and sovereignty to produce equals. And the failure of the British Experiment of an Aristocracy of Everyone, was caused in the modern world as it was in the ancient by over extension of the franchise to those peoples insufficiently genetically pacified by western values, to survive persist, and participate in them. So continuing our thousands of years of civilizational tradition, the aristocracy of the masculine who have agency in reality, agree to use our law of reciprocity, to trade loyalty with the priesthood of the feminine who lack agency in reality, to persist our civilization. Because we all prioritize the pagan(aryan/martial), heathen(ancestor/nature), Aristotelian (masculine/scientific), secular humanist (feminine), christian (feminine) differently. And given each of us varies on the spectrum between the feminine and masculine mind, we prioritize our systems of calculating (faiths), according to our genetic needs. But as long as we hold to our ancestral law of oath, contract, reciprocity, jury, markets we survive, prosper, and evolve. And that is enough. And that is what I seek to achieve: the continued evolution of our tradition from informal traditional law, to rights of anglo saxons, to British constitution, to american constitution, to finally a ‘bible’ of western civilization written in the neutral language of our martial-dominant male, judicial-neutral, priestly-feminine Trifunctionalism: the Natural Law of Reciprocity. And our continued evolution into the gods we imagined.

  • The Compromise Between Europeans and Christians Is the Same as Between Men and Women: A Trade

    —-“Stop your Nietzscheanism. At least Christianity allows for forgiveness and cancel culture don’t. “We are all sinners,” don’t forget that.”—Haniel @HanielAzzi

    Cancel Culture (marxism, neo-marxism, postmodernism, feminism, and difference-denialism) are just christianity v2: undermining meritocracy, reason, evidence, and testimony by replacing the false promise of life after death with the false promise of equality after replacement. Cancel culture is just the strategy of women to undermine, just as christianity is the strategy of women to create social constructions. This is because women are fearful because their bodies evolved to supply fetuses rather then muscles and speed, they’re nervous systems evolved to include their offspring, and verbal ability a discount on manipulating children. And because of these adaptations they’re physically weaker, and emotionally neurotic, but verbally superior, and so they compete as they can by manipulation, using the positive range of seductions: feeding, caring, nurturing, and informing, and the negative spectrum of disinformations: approval and disapproval vs truth or falsehood, half truth vs complete truth, undermining vs debate, resistance and advocacy vs boycott and cooperation, short term devotion vs persistent loyalty. There are no gods, no heaven, no sins. Only myth, evolution, and crimes. Crimes of violating physical, natural, and evolutionary laws, by acts of irreciprocity in display, word, or deed, that resist our evolution into the gods we imagined by truth, science, technology and markets. We are the only gods that may yet be. And in the test of civilizations, only western man discovered the laws of the universe and adapted their civilization to mirror them. If there were gods, europeans would be the chosen people, Aristotle their prophet, and truth their scripture. Christianity is the religion of false promise, ignorance, deceit, manipulation, en-serfment, poverty, and the dark ages, that asks women, slaves, and the weak, to submit to a false god, of an alien people, who produced nothing except lies, usury, rent seeking, and organized crime. Simple people need lies and social construction to reinforce them against insecurities, worries, stresses, slights, signaling, and status pressures in order to sedate their neuroticism from the pressures of low status and low agency – providing the illusion of understanding and control. It is sufficient for them, just as fairy tales are for children. To say we all need mindfulness: personal, interpersonal, social, political, and metaphysical is nothing more than to state we need to limit the cost of a neural economy frustrated by incalculability of status in the chaos outside the life of the hunting-gathering tribe. To say that pagan ‘religion’, aryan, stoic, epicurean values solved the problem of masculine religions, but did not solve the problem of feminine religion (traditional religion of the hearth), is simply to note that Rome expanded into old poor, majority underclass, semitic civilization without first solving the problem of producing a religion of women, slaves, and underclasses – is simply to say that we grew too fast under aryanism in the ancient world just as we are growing too fast under aryanism in the modern world – and that rates of adaptation reflect confidence, agency(conscientiousness), intelligence, and neuroticism – which is what separates the genders and classes. In a rapidly evolving commercial empire under Western Rome, and a collapsing commercial empire under Eastern Byzantium, Christianity provided women, slaves, and the underclasses a means of obtaining self-worth, and status by demanding reciprocal behavior despite their lack of physical, emotional, mental, social, economic, political agency. Monotheism is the religion of the herd not yet human. But the enduring values of our civlization are not semitic christian – they’re four thousand years old, first captured in writing by the Greeks: Excellence and Beauty, Heroism and Duty, Truth and Oath, Sovereignty and Reciprocity, Jury and Law, and resulting markets in everything as the only means of survival: evolution. This set of values – despite that they were only metaphysical, traditional, and institutional, functioned as the operating principle for western civilization that produced the fastest innovation and adaptation possible by man, and dragged mankind out of ignorance, superstition, hard labor, poverty, starvation, disease, suffering and early death. The restoration of Aristotelian thought, northern and Atlantic trade, the contractualism that trade demanded, the printing and literacy that resulted, re-harmonized our scholarly thought with our social, commercial, legal, and military thought restored european civilization. The 20th century false promises are just the second attempt to destroy western civlization from within – by marxism neo-marxism, postmodernism, feminism, and human difference denialism – planted the fertile minds already accustomed to false promise as escape from reality. The dirty secret of western civlization, is that the martial aristocracy created western civilization by profiting from the incremental domestication man like they domesticated animals, using incremental slavery, serfdom, freedom, citizenship, and sovereignty to produce equals. And the failure of the British Experiment of an Aristocracy of Everyone, was caused in the modern world as it was in the ancient by over extension of the franchise to those peoples insufficiently genetically pacified by western values, to survive persist, and participate in them. So continuing our thousands of years of civilizational tradition, the aristocracy of the masculine who have agency in reality, agree to use our law of reciprocity, to trade loyalty with the priesthood of the feminine who lack agency in reality, to persist our civilization. Because we all prioritize the pagan(aryan/martial), heathen(ancestor/nature), Aristotelian (masculine/scientific), secular humanist (feminine), christian (feminine) differently. And given each of us varies on the spectrum between the feminine and masculine mind, we prioritize our systems of calculating (faiths), according to our genetic needs. But as long as we hold to our ancestral law of oath, contract, reciprocity, jury, markets we survive, prosper, and evolve. And that is enough. And that is what I seek to achieve: the continued evolution of our tradition from informal traditional law, to rights of anglo saxons, to British constitution, to american constitution, to finally a ‘bible’ of western civilization written in the neutral language of our martial-dominant male, judicial-neutral, priestly-feminine Trifunctionalism: the Natural Law of Reciprocity. And our continued evolution into the gods we imagined.

  • Tri-Partism and The Tri-Functional Hypothesis of Our Natural Gods, and Our Natur

    Tri-Partism and The Tri-Functional Hypothesis of Our Natural Gods, and Our Natural Religion https://propertarianism.com/2020/05/24/tri-partism-and-the-tri-functional-hypothesis-of-our-natural-gods-and-our-natural-religion-2/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-05-24 23:09:59 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1264695165488414721

  • Tri-Partism and The Tri-Functional Hypothesis of Our Natural Gods, and Our Natural Religion

    Feb 1, 2020, 7:02 PM (mandatory understanding on IE origins of Market Gods) (compare with the Monopoly of semitic underclass gods) The Trifunctional Hypothesis of prehistoric Proto-Indo-European society postulates a tripartite ideology (“idéologie tripartite”) reflected in the existence of three classes or castes—priests, warriors, and commoners (farmers or tradesmen)—corresponding to the three functions of the sacral, the martial and the economic, respectively. The trifunctional thesis is primarily associated with the French mythographer Georges Dumézil, who proposed it in 1929 in the book Flamen-Brahman, and later in Mitra-Varuna. According to Dumézil (1898–1986), Proto-Indo-European society comprised three main groups corresponding to three distinct functions:

    1. Sovereignty, which fell into two distinct and complementary sub-parts: … 1.1 one formal, juridical and priestly but worldly; … 1.2 the other powerful, unpredictable, and also priestly but rooted in the supernatural world. 2. Military, connected with force, the military and war. 3. Productivity, herding, farming and crafts; ruled by the other two. In the Proto-Indo-European mythology each social group had its own god or family of gods to represent it and the function of the god or gods matched the function of the group. Many such divisions occur in the history of Indo-European societies: Southern Russia: Bernard Sergent associates the Indo-European language family with certain archaeological cultures in Southern Russia and reconstructs an Indo-European religion based upon the tripartite functions. Early Germanic society: The supposed division between the king, nobility and regular freemen in early Germanic society. Norse mythology: Odin (sovereignty), Týr (law and justice), the Vanir (fertility). Odin is assigned one of the core functions in the Indo-European pantheon as a representative of the first function (sovereignty) corresponding to the Hindu Varuṇa (fury and magic) as opposed to Týr, who corresponds to the Hindu Mitrá (law and justice); while the Vanir represent the third function (fertility). Odin has been also been interpreted as a death-god (“Psychopomp”: transporting us to the afterlife) and connected to cremations, and has also been associated with ecstatic practices. Classic Greece: The three divisions of the ideal society as described by Socrates in Plato’s The Republic. Bernard Sergent examined the trifunctional hypothesis in Greek epic, lyric and dramatic poetry. India: The three Hindu castes, the Brahmins or priests; the Kshatriya, the warriors and military; and the Vaishya, the agriculturalists, cattle rearers and traders. The Shudra, a fourth Indian caste, is a peasant or serf. A 2001 study found that the genetic affinity of Indians to Europeans is proportionate to caste rank, the upper castes being most similar to Europeans whereas lower castes are more like Asians. The researchers believe that the Indo-European speakers entered India from the Northwest, mixing with or displacing proto-Dravidian speakers, and may have established a caste system with themselves primarily in higher castes. TRIPLE (TRIPARTITE) DIETIES A triple deity (sometimes referred to as threefold, tripled, triplicate, tripartite, triune or triadic, or as a trinity) is three deities that are worshipped as one. Such deities are common throughout world mythology; the number three has a long history of mythical associations. Carl Jung considered the arrangement of deities into triplets an archetype in the history of religion. In classical religious iconography or mythological art, three separate beings may represent either a triad who always appear as a group (Greek Moirai, Charites, Erinyes; Norse Norns; or the Irish Morrígan) or a single deity known from literary sources as having three aspects (Greek Hecate, Roman Diana). THE INDO EUROPEAN ORIGINS OF TRIPARTISM, TRIFUNCTIONALISM, TRIPLE GODS, AND TERNARY LOGIC Georges Dumézil’s trifunctional hypothesis proposed that ancient Indo-European society conceived itself as structured around three activities: worship, war, and toil. In later times, when slave labor became common, the three functions came to be seen as separate “classes”, represented each by its own god. Dumézil understood this mythology as reflecting and validating social structures in its content: such a tripartite class system is found in ancient Indian, Iranian, Greek and Celtic texts. In 1970, Dumézil proposed that some goddesses represented these three qualities as different aspects or epithets and identified examples in his interpretation of various deities including the Iranian Anāhitā, the Vedic Sarasvatī and the Roman Juno. Vesna Petreska posits that myths including trinities of female mythical beings from Central and Eastern European cultures may be evidence for an Indo-European belief in trimutive female “spinners” of destiny. But according to the linguist M. L. West, various female deities and mythological figures in Europe show the influence of pre-Indo-European goddess-worship, and triple female fate divinities, typically “spinners” of destiny, are attested all over Europe and in Bronze Age Anatolia. POST BRONZE AGE COLLAPSE CULTURESAncient Celtic cultures The Matres or Matronae are usually represented as a group of three but sometimes with as many as 27 (3 × 3 × 3) inscriptions. They were associated with motherhood and fertility. Inscriptions to these deities have been found in Gaul, Spain, Italy, the Rhineland and Britain, as their worship was carried by Roman soldiery dating from the mid 1st century to the 3rd century AD.[24] Miranda Green observes that “triplism” reflects a way of “expressing the divine rather than presentation of specific god-types. Triads or triple beings are ubiquitous in the Welsh and Irish mythic imagery” (she gives examples including the Irish battle-furies, Macha, and Brigit). “The religious iconographic repertoire of Gaul and Britain during the Roman period includes a wide range of triple forms: the most common triadic depiction is that of the triple mother goddess” (she lists numerous examples).[25] In the case of the Irish Brigid it can be ambiguous whether she is a single goddess or three sisters, all named Brigid.[26] The Morrígan also appears sometimes as one being, and at other times as three sisters,[27][28][29][30] as do the three Irish goddesses of sovereignty, Ériu, Fódla and Banba.[31] Hinduism In Hinduism, the supreme divinity Para Brahman can take the form of the Trimurti, in which the cosmic functions of creation, preservation, and destruction of the universe are performed by the three deities of Brahma (the creator), Vishnu (the preserver), and Shiva (the destroyer), who are at the same time three forms of the one Para Brahman.[32] The divine being Dattatreya is a representation of all three of these deities incarnated as a single being.[33] Christianity (the trinity) Christians profess “one God in three divine persons” (God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost). This is not to be understood as a belief in (or worship of) three Gods, nor as a belief that there are three subjectively-perceived “aspects” in one God, both of which the Catholic Church condemns as heresy. The Catholic Church also rejects the notions that God is “composed” of its three persons and that “God” is a genus containing the three persons. The Gnostic text Trimorphic Protennoia presents a threefold discourse of the three forms of Divine Thought: the Father, the Son, and the Mother (Sophia). Many Christian saints, especially martyrs, are trios who share a feast day or other remembrance. (See Category:Saints trios.) Whether they are subject to actual veneration and prayed to for supernatural aid, or simply honored, varies by Christian denomination. ESTATES OF THE REALM A 13th-century French representation of the tripartite social order of the Middle Ages – Oratores (“those who pray”), Bellatores (“those who fight”), and Laboratores (“those who work”). The estates of the realm, or three estates, were the broad orders of social hierarchy used in Christendom (Christian Europe) from the medieval period to early modern Europe. Different systems for dividing society members into estates developed and evolved over time. The best known system is the French Ancien Régime (Old Regime), a three-estate system used until the French Revolution (1789–1799). Monarchy was for the king and the queen and this system was made up of clergy (the First Estate), nobles (the Second Estate), and peasants and bourgeoisie (the Third Estate). In some regions, notably Scandinavia and Russia, burghers (the urban merchant class) and rural commoners were split into separate estates, creating a four-estate system with rural commoners ranking the lowest as the Fourth Estate. Furthermore, the non-landowning poor could be left outside the estates, leaving them without political rights. In England, a two-estate system evolved that combined nobility and clergy into one lordly estate with “commons” as the second estate. This system produced the two houses of parliament, the House of Commons and the House of Lords. In southern Germany, a three-estate system of nobility (princes and high clergy), knights, and burghers was used. In Scotland, the Three Estates were the Clergy (First Estate), Nobility (Second Estate), and Shire Commissioners, or “burghers” (Third Estate), representing the bourgeois, middle class, and lower class. The Estates made up a Scottish Parliament. TRIPARTISM (COOPERATIONISM, MARKETS) IN PROPERTARIANISM In P we begin with the three means of coercion: Force-Defense, Remuneration-Deprivation, and Inclusion-Undermining (ostracization) in a market preserved by the judiciary. We argue that the three classes developed three ‘market competitions’ for elites; martial-judicial, priestly-educational, and productive-labor and trade. These three sets of elites we recognize as Conservative-Capitalizing (force), Progressive-consuming(Undermining), and Libertarian-Productive (Trade). In P we restore the “cooperation between the compatible but unequal classes”: The Monarchy as judge of last resort, The Judiciary as preservation of sovereignty, the Senate (nobility) as territorial (tribal) interests, the Upper House as the Commercial Interests, and the Lower House as Family and Labor Interests. Under this interpretation, christianity is migrating to its natural place as the feminine (forgiveness, love), while we are restoring our traditional gods as we try to restore our civlization after the abrahamic dark ages of death and decline. LEARN MORE This info is collected from wikipedia, but read Dumezil or at least the spartk notes version. 😉 If you undestand Dumizel’s description of, Campbell’s Monomyth, and the nordic myths you can begin to reconstruct our natural religions in both northern second generation and southern european first generation forms.

  • Tri-Partism and The Tri-Functional Hypothesis of Our Natural Gods, and Our Natural Religion

    Feb 1, 2020, 7:02 PM (mandatory understanding on IE origins of Market Gods) (compare with the Monopoly of semitic underclass gods) The Trifunctional Hypothesis of prehistoric Proto-Indo-European society postulates a tripartite ideology (“idéologie tripartite”) reflected in the existence of three classes or castes—priests, warriors, and commoners (farmers or tradesmen)—corresponding to the three functions of the sacral, the martial and the economic, respectively. The trifunctional thesis is primarily associated with the French mythographer Georges Dumézil, who proposed it in 1929 in the book Flamen-Brahman, and later in Mitra-Varuna. According to Dumézil (1898–1986), Proto-Indo-European society comprised three main groups corresponding to three distinct functions:

    1. Sovereignty, which fell into two distinct and complementary sub-parts: … 1.1 one formal, juridical and priestly but worldly; … 1.2 the other powerful, unpredictable, and also priestly but rooted in the supernatural world. 2. Military, connected with force, the military and war. 3. Productivity, herding, farming and crafts; ruled by the other two. In the Proto-Indo-European mythology each social group had its own god or family of gods to represent it and the function of the god or gods matched the function of the group. Many such divisions occur in the history of Indo-European societies: Southern Russia: Bernard Sergent associates the Indo-European language family with certain archaeological cultures in Southern Russia and reconstructs an Indo-European religion based upon the tripartite functions. Early Germanic society: The supposed division between the king, nobility and regular freemen in early Germanic society. Norse mythology: Odin (sovereignty), Týr (law and justice), the Vanir (fertility). Odin is assigned one of the core functions in the Indo-European pantheon as a representative of the first function (sovereignty) corresponding to the Hindu Varuṇa (fury and magic) as opposed to Týr, who corresponds to the Hindu Mitrá (law and justice); while the Vanir represent the third function (fertility). Odin has been also been interpreted as a death-god (“Psychopomp”: transporting us to the afterlife) and connected to cremations, and has also been associated with ecstatic practices. Classic Greece: The three divisions of the ideal society as described by Socrates in Plato’s The Republic. Bernard Sergent examined the trifunctional hypothesis in Greek epic, lyric and dramatic poetry. India: The three Hindu castes, the Brahmins or priests; the Kshatriya, the warriors and military; and the Vaishya, the agriculturalists, cattle rearers and traders. The Shudra, a fourth Indian caste, is a peasant or serf. A 2001 study found that the genetic affinity of Indians to Europeans is proportionate to caste rank, the upper castes being most similar to Europeans whereas lower castes are more like Asians. The researchers believe that the Indo-European speakers entered India from the Northwest, mixing with or displacing proto-Dravidian speakers, and may have established a caste system with themselves primarily in higher castes. TRIPLE (TRIPARTITE) DIETIES A triple deity (sometimes referred to as threefold, tripled, triplicate, tripartite, triune or triadic, or as a trinity) is three deities that are worshipped as one. Such deities are common throughout world mythology; the number three has a long history of mythical associations. Carl Jung considered the arrangement of deities into triplets an archetype in the history of religion. In classical religious iconography or mythological art, three separate beings may represent either a triad who always appear as a group (Greek Moirai, Charites, Erinyes; Norse Norns; or the Irish Morrígan) or a single deity known from literary sources as having three aspects (Greek Hecate, Roman Diana). THE INDO EUROPEAN ORIGINS OF TRIPARTISM, TRIFUNCTIONALISM, TRIPLE GODS, AND TERNARY LOGIC Georges Dumézil’s trifunctional hypothesis proposed that ancient Indo-European society conceived itself as structured around three activities: worship, war, and toil. In later times, when slave labor became common, the three functions came to be seen as separate “classes”, represented each by its own god. Dumézil understood this mythology as reflecting and validating social structures in its content: such a tripartite class system is found in ancient Indian, Iranian, Greek and Celtic texts. In 1970, Dumézil proposed that some goddesses represented these three qualities as different aspects or epithets and identified examples in his interpretation of various deities including the Iranian Anāhitā, the Vedic Sarasvatī and the Roman Juno. Vesna Petreska posits that myths including trinities of female mythical beings from Central and Eastern European cultures may be evidence for an Indo-European belief in trimutive female “spinners” of destiny. But according to the linguist M. L. West, various female deities and mythological figures in Europe show the influence of pre-Indo-European goddess-worship, and triple female fate divinities, typically “spinners” of destiny, are attested all over Europe and in Bronze Age Anatolia. POST BRONZE AGE COLLAPSE CULTURESAncient Celtic cultures The Matres or Matronae are usually represented as a group of three but sometimes with as many as 27 (3 × 3 × 3) inscriptions. They were associated with motherhood and fertility. Inscriptions to these deities have been found in Gaul, Spain, Italy, the Rhineland and Britain, as their worship was carried by Roman soldiery dating from the mid 1st century to the 3rd century AD.[24] Miranda Green observes that “triplism” reflects a way of “expressing the divine rather than presentation of specific god-types. Triads or triple beings are ubiquitous in the Welsh and Irish mythic imagery” (she gives examples including the Irish battle-furies, Macha, and Brigit). “The religious iconographic repertoire of Gaul and Britain during the Roman period includes a wide range of triple forms: the most common triadic depiction is that of the triple mother goddess” (she lists numerous examples).[25] In the case of the Irish Brigid it can be ambiguous whether she is a single goddess or three sisters, all named Brigid.[26] The Morrígan also appears sometimes as one being, and at other times as three sisters,[27][28][29][30] as do the three Irish goddesses of sovereignty, Ériu, Fódla and Banba.[31] Hinduism In Hinduism, the supreme divinity Para Brahman can take the form of the Trimurti, in which the cosmic functions of creation, preservation, and destruction of the universe are performed by the three deities of Brahma (the creator), Vishnu (the preserver), and Shiva (the destroyer), who are at the same time three forms of the one Para Brahman.[32] The divine being Dattatreya is a representation of all three of these deities incarnated as a single being.[33] Christianity (the trinity) Christians profess “one God in three divine persons” (God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost). This is not to be understood as a belief in (or worship of) three Gods, nor as a belief that there are three subjectively-perceived “aspects” in one God, both of which the Catholic Church condemns as heresy. The Catholic Church also rejects the notions that God is “composed” of its three persons and that “God” is a genus containing the three persons. The Gnostic text Trimorphic Protennoia presents a threefold discourse of the three forms of Divine Thought: the Father, the Son, and the Mother (Sophia). Many Christian saints, especially martyrs, are trios who share a feast day or other remembrance. (See Category:Saints trios.) Whether they are subject to actual veneration and prayed to for supernatural aid, or simply honored, varies by Christian denomination. ESTATES OF THE REALM A 13th-century French representation of the tripartite social order of the Middle Ages – Oratores (“those who pray”), Bellatores (“those who fight”), and Laboratores (“those who work”). The estates of the realm, or three estates, were the broad orders of social hierarchy used in Christendom (Christian Europe) from the medieval period to early modern Europe. Different systems for dividing society members into estates developed and evolved over time. The best known system is the French Ancien Régime (Old Regime), a three-estate system used until the French Revolution (1789–1799). Monarchy was for the king and the queen and this system was made up of clergy (the First Estate), nobles (the Second Estate), and peasants and bourgeoisie (the Third Estate). In some regions, notably Scandinavia and Russia, burghers (the urban merchant class) and rural commoners were split into separate estates, creating a four-estate system with rural commoners ranking the lowest as the Fourth Estate. Furthermore, the non-landowning poor could be left outside the estates, leaving them without political rights. In England, a two-estate system evolved that combined nobility and clergy into one lordly estate with “commons” as the second estate. This system produced the two houses of parliament, the House of Commons and the House of Lords. In southern Germany, a three-estate system of nobility (princes and high clergy), knights, and burghers was used. In Scotland, the Three Estates were the Clergy (First Estate), Nobility (Second Estate), and Shire Commissioners, or “burghers” (Third Estate), representing the bourgeois, middle class, and lower class. The Estates made up a Scottish Parliament. TRIPARTISM (COOPERATIONISM, MARKETS) IN PROPERTARIANISM In P we begin with the three means of coercion: Force-Defense, Remuneration-Deprivation, and Inclusion-Undermining (ostracization) in a market preserved by the judiciary. We argue that the three classes developed three ‘market competitions’ for elites; martial-judicial, priestly-educational, and productive-labor and trade. These three sets of elites we recognize as Conservative-Capitalizing (force), Progressive-consuming(Undermining), and Libertarian-Productive (Trade). In P we restore the “cooperation between the compatible but unequal classes”: The Monarchy as judge of last resort, The Judiciary as preservation of sovereignty, the Senate (nobility) as territorial (tribal) interests, the Upper House as the Commercial Interests, and the Lower House as Family and Labor Interests. Under this interpretation, christianity is migrating to its natural place as the feminine (forgiveness, love), while we are restoring our traditional gods as we try to restore our civlization after the abrahamic dark ages of death and decline. LEARN MORE This info is collected from wikipedia, but read Dumezil or at least the spartk notes version. 😉 If you undestand Dumizel’s description of, Campbell’s Monomyth, and the nordic myths you can begin to reconstruct our natural religions in both northern second generation and southern european first generation forms.

  • The time has come once again to set limits.

    Feb 2, 2020, 9:14 AM (re-post from ban) Imitate Jesus. There wasn’t much better advice. I’ve harped on it here for a while, but this requires re-telling. Jesus imitation offers the best strategy for those that lack agency. And in his time; that was damn near every soul. The low/no-agency Jesus strategy works in low-trust and high-trust systems/situations. But, please understand at the time of emergence it was ONLY patriarchal systems of order in which to navigate. The foundation for an agency-less ethic to disperse to an underclass was sorely lacking. When there is proper order, acceptance and maintenance of that order is needed. With the Jesus trick one is sure not to run afoul of those with more power (specifically in ways that could get you picked out of the herd and culled). This allows one to stick around long enough to develop agency of their own. But, in a landscape of chaos (currently caused by over-order and over-abundance of information lacking coherence and salience) the Jesus trick only allows for further entropy. In times where order needs to be created the creator’s son falls short of the mark [his trick doesn’t multiply/no breeding]: By: James Thomson (d. 1882)

    “This poor sexless Jew, with a noble feminine heart, and a magnificent though uncultivated and crazy brain, did no work to earn his bread; evaded all social and political responsibilities, took no wife and contemned his own family; lived [as] a vagabond, fed and housed by charity (if by miracle, it is clear that we cannot imitate him: would that we could!); uttered many beautiful and even sublime moral truths and more impracticable precepts; preached continually himself, and faith in himself alone as the one thing necessary; and died with the lamentable cry of womanish desperation, perhaps the most significant confession in history of a life of supreme self-illusion laid bare to itself at the point of death. My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? He founded a sect which holds him up as the Great Exemplar of mankind, and scarcely one member of which even tries to tread in his footsteps. I have much love and reverence for him as a man; but am quite certain that if everyone really set about following his example, the world (which is surely mad enough already) would soon be one vast Bedlam broken loose.”

    Jesus provides an imitation model for the ideal under-class citizen {That is ANY dependent: men/women that lack agency, disabled, children, etc.} but, doesn’t set up an iterative, imitable, image for those needing to create order. See, in order creation, what IS isn’t enough. If it were, we wouldn’t be driven to produce. In a situation that needs order more of those able to unfurl order in the cosmic space are necessary one must be able to produce. We ought not have incentives that favor consumers but producers. It is irresponsible to imitate Jesus as you ought to do more than sacrifice yourself to the greater “good”{as right now it’s the greater BAD} of humanity. As humanity isn’t what it was; and to sacrifice yourself to it (for their sins) isn’t heroic anymore but moronic; they’re undeserving and spoiled {NOT oppressed}. They know EXACTLY what they do; and if they don’t it’s a failure on their behalf to correct for the error {you have the internet and the worlds information at your finger-tips; ignoramus}[if you’d like to place the blame on the system, fine, but you best not be a part of it]. We are now at a point in time where we ought to be saying do as Jesus said; not as he did [calculate like Jesus]. And we ought to be picking out specific instances to pull from: We need the Jesus that flipped over tables and scolded the higher-ups of the day; we need the Jesus that proclaimed “go forth and multiple,” we need the Jesus that spat out the lukewarm, we need the Jesus that warns us of God coming back with that flaming sword of Truth to do some swift re-ordering… the tolerance isn’t (for)bearable any longer! It’s irresponsible to act in this naive manner: forbearing for those that will surely act irreciprocal when given the chance. Irreciprocity IS immoral and to roll out the red carpet for its manifestation is suicide. To extend tolerance to those that will use tolerance against you to undermine and usurp your position is not kind, it isn’t Jesus like; it’s immoral, an insane display of ineptness and it’s no better if it’s innate {your instinct to allow others to walk all over you; agreeable; feminine}. The time has come once again to set limits. And as man is the measure of all things; it is he that ought to set those limits. And those limits ought to lead to the form and function of a flourishing culture. One that preserves its landscape of Jesus-like emergence as opposed to dismantling that very landscape in His name.’  

  • The time has come once again to set limits.

    Feb 2, 2020, 9:14 AM (re-post from ban) Imitate Jesus. There wasn’t much better advice. I’ve harped on it here for a while, but this requires re-telling. Jesus imitation offers the best strategy for those that lack agency. And in his time; that was damn near every soul. The low/no-agency Jesus strategy works in low-trust and high-trust systems/situations. But, please understand at the time of emergence it was ONLY patriarchal systems of order in which to navigate. The foundation for an agency-less ethic to disperse to an underclass was sorely lacking. When there is proper order, acceptance and maintenance of that order is needed. With the Jesus trick one is sure not to run afoul of those with more power (specifically in ways that could get you picked out of the herd and culled). This allows one to stick around long enough to develop agency of their own. But, in a landscape of chaos (currently caused by over-order and over-abundance of information lacking coherence and salience) the Jesus trick only allows for further entropy. In times where order needs to be created the creator’s son falls short of the mark [his trick doesn’t multiply/no breeding]: By: James Thomson (d. 1882)

    “This poor sexless Jew, with a noble feminine heart, and a magnificent though uncultivated and crazy brain, did no work to earn his bread; evaded all social and political responsibilities, took no wife and contemned his own family; lived [as] a vagabond, fed and housed by charity (if by miracle, it is clear that we cannot imitate him: would that we could!); uttered many beautiful and even sublime moral truths and more impracticable precepts; preached continually himself, and faith in himself alone as the one thing necessary; and died with the lamentable cry of womanish desperation, perhaps the most significant confession in history of a life of supreme self-illusion laid bare to itself at the point of death. My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? He founded a sect which holds him up as the Great Exemplar of mankind, and scarcely one member of which even tries to tread in his footsteps. I have much love and reverence for him as a man; but am quite certain that if everyone really set about following his example, the world (which is surely mad enough already) would soon be one vast Bedlam broken loose.”

    Jesus provides an imitation model for the ideal under-class citizen {That is ANY dependent: men/women that lack agency, disabled, children, etc.} but, doesn’t set up an iterative, imitable, image for those needing to create order. See, in order creation, what IS isn’t enough. If it were, we wouldn’t be driven to produce. In a situation that needs order more of those able to unfurl order in the cosmic space are necessary one must be able to produce. We ought not have incentives that favor consumers but producers. It is irresponsible to imitate Jesus as you ought to do more than sacrifice yourself to the greater “good”{as right now it’s the greater BAD} of humanity. As humanity isn’t what it was; and to sacrifice yourself to it (for their sins) isn’t heroic anymore but moronic; they’re undeserving and spoiled {NOT oppressed}. They know EXACTLY what they do; and if they don’t it’s a failure on their behalf to correct for the error {you have the internet and the worlds information at your finger-tips; ignoramus}[if you’d like to place the blame on the system, fine, but you best not be a part of it]. We are now at a point in time where we ought to be saying do as Jesus said; not as he did [calculate like Jesus]. And we ought to be picking out specific instances to pull from: We need the Jesus that flipped over tables and scolded the higher-ups of the day; we need the Jesus that proclaimed “go forth and multiple,” we need the Jesus that spat out the lukewarm, we need the Jesus that warns us of God coming back with that flaming sword of Truth to do some swift re-ordering… the tolerance isn’t (for)bearable any longer! It’s irresponsible to act in this naive manner: forbearing for those that will surely act irreciprocal when given the chance. Irreciprocity IS immoral and to roll out the red carpet for its manifestation is suicide. To extend tolerance to those that will use tolerance against you to undermine and usurp your position is not kind, it isn’t Jesus like; it’s immoral, an insane display of ineptness and it’s no better if it’s innate {your instinct to allow others to walk all over you; agreeable; feminine}. The time has come once again to set limits. And as man is the measure of all things; it is he that ought to set those limits. And those limits ought to lead to the form and function of a flourishing culture. One that preserves its landscape of Jesus-like emergence as opposed to dismantling that very landscape in His name.’