Category: Politics, Power, and Governance

  • What is clear from your words is that you think that control is possible. It isn

    What is clear from your words is that you think that control is possible. It isn’t. That your understanding is possible. it isn’t. Events will evolve one way or another. Strategy is the same: moral license (done), set of demands: (~done). plan of transition (done). Pressure? 😉


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-24 20:36:20 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1253784864597463044

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    @unfinis06265716 Everyone knows what’s in that video except average people. The point was to counter those that overestimated state power and underestimated vulnerability. It worked. Of course it’s still visible. The final question isn’t clear.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1253784175162920961

  • Everyone knows what’s in that video except average people. The point was to coun

    Everyone knows what’s in that video except average people. The point was to counter those that overestimated state power and underestimated vulnerability. It worked. Of course it’s still visible. The final question isn’t clear.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-24 20:33:36 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1253784175162920961

    Reply addressees: @unfinis06265716

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1253778107074441216

  • Nation vs State vs Country

    Nation vs State vs Country https://propertarianism.com/2020/04/24/nation-vs-state-vs-country/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-24 18:57:24 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1253759965107556358

  • Nation vs State vs Country

    NATION VS STATE VS COUNTRY Most common errors conflate nation (people), country (territory) and state (government) because the ‘natural’ order is that these are the same: a body of people, the territory they live in and the government they defend and operate it with. HUMAN GROUP individual > family > clan > tribe > nation > race > man HUMAN RULES norms (manners, morals, ethics) > laws > institutions, traditions > arts > myths > religions. TERRITORY Farm > village > town > city > county – province > country > state > federation (capital) > empire (core state, and capital) > civilization. ORGANIZATION father > pater familia (extended family or clan) > headman or chieftain (tribe of clans) > king(kingdom) of tribes > monarch(monarchy under christianity) > state (corporation over all) > federation (of states) > empire (heterogeneous states) > civilization. LEADERSHIP individual > family or clan > oligarchy (group) > democracy (most)

  • Nation vs State vs Country

    NATION VS STATE VS COUNTRY Most common errors conflate nation (people), country (territory) and state (government) because the ‘natural’ order is that these are the same: a body of people, the territory they live in and the government they defend and operate it with. HUMAN GROUP individual > family > clan > tribe > nation > race > man HUMAN RULES norms (manners, morals, ethics) > laws > institutions, traditions > arts > myths > religions. TERRITORY Farm > village > town > city > county – province > country > state > federation (capital) > empire (core state, and capital) > civilization. ORGANIZATION father > pater familia (extended family or clan) > headman or chieftain (tribe of clans) > king(kingdom) of tribes > monarch(monarchy under christianity) > state (corporation over all) > federation (of states) > empire (heterogeneous states) > civilization. LEADERSHIP individual > family or clan > oligarchy (group) > democracy (most)

  • Disambiguation of Government (Bankruptcy)

    [D]isambiguation:

    1. Military > State > Government > Commons > institutions-organization
    2. Rule of Law > Law > Courts > Contracts > Biz-trade
    3. Strategy+Tradition > Religion+Education+Academy+Media > Families/Consumers > People-consumption

    State (corporation holding assets) 1. Federal State -> Federal Government 2. … Regional State -> Regional Government 3. … … Territorial: County Corporation -> County Government 4. … … Market: Local Corporation -> Local Government If a state declares bankruptcy the creditors get screwed all or partly. The state has demonstrated incompetence in the management of state affairs, and then the creditors will seek higher interest rates in the future, and after a cycle or two governments ‘learn’ partly because they have evidence of the consequences after bankruptcy and no evidence prior to bankruptcy – just as we now have evidence of immigration, diversity, monetary policy, and democracy – evidence of failure seems to be necessary to prevent repetition of human hubris. The state as a monopoly on violence is evidently false because it was a construct of the westphalian peace. At present it’s falsified, just as it was prior to the westphalian peace. In other words it was always false. The state is a corporation. The institutions organize the use of assets. The owners of that corporation consist of a small number of people willing to use sufficient violence to prevent alternative organizations of institutions and assets. The people who govern may or may not constitute sufficient violence to do so. Usually they don’t. In china they do. In russia they do. Because the fear of chaos in those countries is the opposite of the love of opportunity in NE European civilizations. – something the rest of the world cannot comprehend – because they never developed trust or commons … as we did.

  • Disambiguation of Government (Bankruptcy)

    [D]isambiguation:

    1. Military > State > Government > Commons > institutions-organization
    2. Rule of Law > Law > Courts > Contracts > Biz-trade
    3. Strategy+Tradition > Religion+Education+Academy+Media > Families/Consumers > People-consumption

    State (corporation holding assets) 1. Federal State -> Federal Government 2. … Regional State -> Regional Government 3. … … Territorial: County Corporation -> County Government 4. … … Market: Local Corporation -> Local Government If a state declares bankruptcy the creditors get screwed all or partly. The state has demonstrated incompetence in the management of state affairs, and then the creditors will seek higher interest rates in the future, and after a cycle or two governments ‘learn’ partly because they have evidence of the consequences after bankruptcy and no evidence prior to bankruptcy – just as we now have evidence of immigration, diversity, monetary policy, and democracy – evidence of failure seems to be necessary to prevent repetition of human hubris. The state as a monopoly on violence is evidently false because it was a construct of the westphalian peace. At present it’s falsified, just as it was prior to the westphalian peace. In other words it was always false. The state is a corporation. The institutions organize the use of assets. The owners of that corporation consist of a small number of people willing to use sufficient violence to prevent alternative organizations of institutions and assets. The people who govern may or may not constitute sufficient violence to do so. Usually they don’t. In china they do. In russia they do. Because the fear of chaos in those countries is the opposite of the love of opportunity in NE European civilizations. – something the rest of the world cannot comprehend – because they never developed trust or commons … as we did.

  • Where Does the Propertarian Party Fit Into the Propertarian Movement?

    Where Does the Propertarian Party Fit Into the Propertarian Movement? https://propertarianism.com/2020/04/24/where-does-the-propertarian-party-fit-into-the-propertarian-movement/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-24 18:16:21 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1253749637221154817

  • Where Does the Propertarian Party Fit Into the Propertarian Movement?

    By Nathen I have been thinking about where this political party fits into the movement as a whole quote a bit recently. P is fundamentally an intellectual, not political movement, but it has profound political ramifications. I consider myself a Newb so take this for what it’s worth, but my observation is that Curt Doolittle is focusing primarily on developing leaders and teachers who can spread and grow this next intellectual revolution. While leaders like John Mark (who provided my introduction to P through his Youtube videos), ITV, Brandon Hayes, Bill Joslin and Noah Revoy are sharing the intellectual and political ideas of P with many people, there is not, as far as I know, a grassroots, boots-on-the-ground organization yet. In my opinion, this is the purpose of the Propertarian Party. While the internet is an incredible tool for sharing information and connecting people, we are hardwired for face-to-face interaction. If our goal is to enact real change, it must happen in meatspace, not in the electronic ether. While display and word can happen electronically, these must eventually be translated into deed. Deeds require hands and muscles and sweat and blood. If we talk but do not act, we are useless and have no place in the Pack. The effectiveness of political parties is in being able to look your neighbor in the eye and speak to him about how your political ideas can improve his life. Face-to-face communication is visceral, not just intellectual. People can experience your conviction, or lack thereof, much more completely. Consider the possibilities of setting up a table at a gun show (once we start having them again). Having the opportunity to meet dozens, if not hundreds of like-minded people from your area and talk to them about the solutions that P offers. People are familiar and comfortable with political parties. This may make us more approachable. The Party may also be a good vehicle for fund-raising. Another consideration is what happens after we achieve victory (we will) and the Propertarian Constitution, or as I think of it, the Revitalized US Constitution is enacted? How will these 1000 Aristocracies bloom? Having multiple local Propertarian Party organizations already in place will make the transition quicker and more focused. It all comes down to Boots On The Ground. This Group is a great way to start the process, but ultimately it is each of our responsibility to begin talking to people in our communities and introducing them to Propertarianism. The Propertarian Party is a vehicle to make it easier to start that conversation, but WE must be it’s advocates. We must each be willing to speak the difficult and uncomfortable truths directly to another person knowing we may anger or offend them and that we may get yelled at or even physically assaulted. Are you ready and willing to stand in front of another man and speak the truth he needs to hear even if it upsets him? Are you ready to deal with GSRRM right in your face? I am. Do you have the courage to stand up in front of a group of strangers and tell the truth regardless of cost?

  • Where Does the Propertarian Party Fit Into the Propertarian Movement?

    By Nathen I have been thinking about where this political party fits into the movement as a whole quote a bit recently. P is fundamentally an intellectual, not political movement, but it has profound political ramifications. I consider myself a Newb so take this for what it’s worth, but my observation is that Curt Doolittle is focusing primarily on developing leaders and teachers who can spread and grow this next intellectual revolution. While leaders like John Mark (who provided my introduction to P through his Youtube videos), ITV, Brandon Hayes, Bill Joslin and Noah Revoy are sharing the intellectual and political ideas of P with many people, there is not, as far as I know, a grassroots, boots-on-the-ground organization yet. In my opinion, this is the purpose of the Propertarian Party. While the internet is an incredible tool for sharing information and connecting people, we are hardwired for face-to-face interaction. If our goal is to enact real change, it must happen in meatspace, not in the electronic ether. While display and word can happen electronically, these must eventually be translated into deed. Deeds require hands and muscles and sweat and blood. If we talk but do not act, we are useless and have no place in the Pack. The effectiveness of political parties is in being able to look your neighbor in the eye and speak to him about how your political ideas can improve his life. Face-to-face communication is visceral, not just intellectual. People can experience your conviction, or lack thereof, much more completely. Consider the possibilities of setting up a table at a gun show (once we start having them again). Having the opportunity to meet dozens, if not hundreds of like-minded people from your area and talk to them about the solutions that P offers. People are familiar and comfortable with political parties. This may make us more approachable. The Party may also be a good vehicle for fund-raising. Another consideration is what happens after we achieve victory (we will) and the Propertarian Constitution, or as I think of it, the Revitalized US Constitution is enacted? How will these 1000 Aristocracies bloom? Having multiple local Propertarian Party organizations already in place will make the transition quicker and more focused. It all comes down to Boots On The Ground. This Group is a great way to start the process, but ultimately it is each of our responsibility to begin talking to people in our communities and introducing them to Propertarianism. The Propertarian Party is a vehicle to make it easier to start that conversation, but WE must be it’s advocates. We must each be willing to speak the difficult and uncomfortable truths directly to another person knowing we may anger or offend them and that we may get yelled at or even physically assaulted. Are you ready and willing to stand in front of another man and speak the truth he needs to hear even if it upsets him? Are you ready to deal with GSRRM right in your face? I am. Do you have the courage to stand up in front of a group of strangers and tell the truth regardless of cost?