Curt Doolittle

Category: Natural Law and Reciprocity

  • “If the law mandated the Golden Rule, it would produce Dysgenic Communism. If th

    —“If the law mandated the Golden Rule, it would produce Dysgenic Communism. If the law mandated the Silver Rule, it would produce Eugenic Propertarianism.”—John Mark

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    Source date (UTC): 2018-11-02 07:34:00 UTC

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    by John Mark

    A picture/example/illustration of reciprocity, the silver rule (or violation of it)…

    CEO of a large corporation in America says “I want more profit. One very easy path to that is more warm bodies entering the USA – more people to buy our company’s product/service, and drives down price of labor too! Huge win! (For me and company shareholders.) I care not who they are, just bring in more people!!! If they are more badly behaved/criminal, if they destroy social cohesion, if they drive working class whites out of their neighborhoods, if they demonize white people…I care not. I am insulated from these problems by my wealth (gated community, private jet, homes around the world). So I will donate to politicians (buy them) who will keep the borders open.”

    This CEO is doing unto others what he would *not* have done to himself. He is stealing property (Curt’s accurate expanded definition of property, which includes common property, all those things white working/middle class whites value and have invested in for generations in America). He is violating reciprocity, natural law.

    ;)Stephen Murrayso thats what Curt means by commons.Nov 1, 2018, 4:33 PMCurt Doolittlehttps://propertarianism.com/2017/03/23/definition-commons-with-links-to-the-core/Nov 1, 2018, 4:35 PMCurt Doolittlehttps://propertarianism.com/2013/01/15/the-complete-definition-of-property-excerpt-from-propertarianism/Nov 1, 2018, 4:35 PMNick DahlheimThe only property I want that CEO to own is a pike and a pyreNov 1, 2018, 4:42 PMLuke WeinhagenTwo fold violation –

    1. Doing unto others (violating the silver rule)

    2. Insulating (externalizing risks/costs)

    He could be just doing 1 while exposing himself to the consequences and it would still be a violation of reciprocity.

    By doing 2 as well he undermines natural law’s inherent capacity for corrections against violations (personal wealth gets destroyed, business fails, etc… natural consequences eliminating problem 1).Nov 1, 2018, 4:45 PMStephen Murrayneed I ask what the golden rule is?Nov 1, 2018, 4:53 PMCurt DoolittleI”m not gonna google that for you…. ;)Nov 1, 2018, 4:59 PMCurt Doolittle“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”Nov 1, 2018, 4:59 PMCurt Doolittle^the communist version.Nov 1, 2018, 5:00 PMStephen Murrayis that not the silver rule?Nov 1, 2018, 5:00 PMAndrew ClaytonThe golden rule: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

    The silver rule: Give, and you can benefit. Take, and you will pay.Nov 1, 2018, 5:02 PMStephen MurraygreatNov 1, 2018, 5:03 PMSteve PenderIs it the pressure of quarterly earnings?Nov 1, 2018, 5:05 PMAndrew ClaytonCombined with a severed connection to social moresNov 1, 2018, 5:06 PMJennifer DeanIn a public company, for sure. I’ve seen a lot of that. They do things to generate short-term profit at the expense of longer-term or further reaching consequences.Nov 1, 2018, 5:07 PMYiannis KontinopoulosStephen Murray the silver rule is “Don’t do to them what they wouldn’t want to have done onto themselves”Nov 1, 2018, 5:07 PMJennifer DeanWally world is a treasure trove of examples of violation of reciprocity.Nov 1, 2018, 5:09 PMStephen ThomasAbolish the Government institution of “corporations”.

    Solves a lot of parasitic behaviorNov 1, 2018, 5:38 PMCurt Doolittlewell, a corporation in the sense you mean it, is one that is granted limited liability by the insurer of last resort (the government).

    A corporation in the sense that it is a contract for the production of commons is something else.

    The qestion is, will corporations form without the insurer of last resort granting them limited liability? no I don’t think so. they didn’t at any useful scale.Nov 1, 2018, 5:52 PMCurt Doolittlethe problem isn’t the corporation its that you can’t sue them for impositon upon the commons.Nov 1, 2018, 5:53 PMStephen ThomasCorrect.

    The idea of a corporation or incorporation is fine, wonderful even.Nov 1, 2018, 6:10 PMJohn MarkIf the law mandated the Golden Rule, it would produce Dysgenic Communism. If the law mandated the Silver Rule, it would produce Eugenic Propertarianism.Nov 1, 2018, 6:33 PMJohn MarkIn the current system, there is zero incentive for CEOs to give up profits to preserve societal (commons) wealth (of various forms). Each CEO (or any other corporate employee) knows that if he refuses to plunder the commons thus giving up profit opportunity, the board will replace him with someone who will plunder the commons for profit, and nothing will change. So, “it might as well be me that gets richer.”Nov 1, 2018, 6:42 PMJohn MarkGood distinction.Nov 1, 2018, 6:43 PMJohn MarkTook me a while to get that too when I first started following Curt.Nov 1, 2018, 6:45 PMAndrew StrachanI would love to know how these CEOs/shareholders/directors make their money because I’m all of the above and I pay tax through my nose! I live in a 3 bedroom house in the East of England and I drive a 30 year old car! I’m subject to the same tax laws as everyone else in this country! Maybe there’s some con that I’m not onto? But as far as I’m concerned the whole CEO, company director conspiracy theory is just that!, a conspiracy! 😏Nov 1, 2018, 8:24 PMMicah Pezdirtzbrings to mind the broken window fallacyNov 3, 2018, 5:51 PMNick DahlheimBigger CEOs up the food chain stuff their money in offshore tax havens while also flooding your country with Muslim shitholersNov 3, 2018, 6:09 PMAN EXAMPLE OF RECIPROCITY

    by John Mark

    A picture/example/illustration of reciprocity, the silver rule (or violation of it)…

    CEO of a large corporation in America says “I want more profit. One very easy path to that is more warm bodies entering the USA – more people to buy our company’s product/service, and drives down price of labor too! Huge win! (For me and company shareholders.) I care not who they are, just bring in more people!!! If they are more badly behaved/criminal, if they destroy social cohesion, if they drive working class whites out of their neighborhoods, if they demonize white people…I care not. I am insulated from these problems by my wealth (gated community, private jet, homes around the world). So I will donate to politicians (buy them) who will keep the borders open.”

    This CEO is doing unto others what he would *not* have done to himself. He is stealing property (Curt’s accurate expanded definition of property, which includes common property, all those things white working/middle class whites value and have invested in for generations in America). He is violating reciprocity, natural law.

    😉

    Source date (UTC): 2018-11-01 16:28:00 UTC

  • Yes, the thing is, nassim tried to find an empirical solution and couldn’t, so h

    Yes, the thing is, nassim tried to find an empirical solution and couldn’t, so he’s come around FINALLY to the law: we can only WARRANTY not prove. As such, skin in the game is colloquial proxy for western rule of law: warranty of due diligence.

    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-31 22:33:57 UTC

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    photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/45019836_10156745910012264_3201060089444171776_n_10156745910007264.jpg RECIPROCITY AS THE STRONG VERSION OF THE SILVER RULEDaniel Roland AndersonI love this angle. Kant tried to rationalize the Golden Rule of Christianity with his categorical imperative.

    That never quite worked for me, but in undergrad, I wasn’t sure if it was because I was too dense to follow Kant, or whether he’d made a misstep.

    Reciprocity just works.

    If any decent person stood by and watched a reciprocal exchange, he’d say “yep, that’s how moral people do things.”

    Most people may not be able to explain why, but any moral person would know he’d just observed a moral transaction.Oct 31, 2018, 3:15 PMKari Anne DorstadCould you offer me an Example of that. I get it but I still need an example of some kind. Like a picture for instants I need you to paint me a picture of what this is.Oct 31, 2018, 8:38 PMKari Anne DorstadThis thing about reciprocity ?Oct 31, 2018, 8:39 PMCurt DoolittleJohn Mark?Oct 31, 2018, 8:49 PMKari Anne DorstadCurt Doolittle ok so John Mark will be responsible for this question ?Oct 31, 2018, 8:53 PMKari Anne DorstadCurt Doolittle John Mark he got a total New testament Name Awesome!! 👋Oct 31, 2018, 8:54 PMJohn MarkHah I’ll try. Hi Kari. (Curt is super busy and gets like 100 notifications/hr, sees that I’m on FB right now and is delegating to me, so I’ll do my best, and he can add/correct as needed.)Nov 1, 2018, 8:23 AMJohn MarkA picture/example/illustration of reciprocity, the silver rule (or violation of it)…

    CEO of a large corporation in America says “I want more profit. One very easy path to that is more warm bodies entering the USA – more people to buy our company’s product/service, and drives down price of labor too! Huge win! (For me and company shareholders.) I care not who they are, just bring in more people!!! If they are more badly behaved/criminal, if they destroy social cohesion, if they drive working class whites out of their neighborhoods, if they demonize white people…I care not. I am insulated from these problems by my wealth (gated community, private jet, homes around the world). So I will donate to politicians (buy them) who will keep the borders open.”

    This CEO is doing unto others what he would *not* have done to himself. He is stealing property (Curt’s accurate expanded definition of property, which includes common property, all those things white working/middle class whites value and have invested in for generations in America). He is violating reciprocity, natural law.Nov 1, 2018, 8:36 AMKari Anne DorstadJohn Mark ok thank you !Nov 1, 2018, 8:51 AMJohn MarkReciprocity forces people to “get” by fully-informed trade, providing value *without stealing anything* (no “externalities” aka indirect theft like the CEO described above engaged in.)

    Gotta run to work but will revisit this post later if I can help in any way.Nov 1, 2018, 8:51 AMKari Anne DorstadJohn Mark thanks that really helps ! I understand now !Nov 1, 2018, 8:53 AMDaniel Roland AndersonSolid John Mark.Nov 1, 2018, 9:03 AMJennifer DeanExcellent. Thank you. Real world examples help.Nov 1, 2018, 4:23 PMBill JoslinKant’s a dick.Nov 2, 2018, 12:22 AMDaniel Roland AndersonBill Joslin

    I tried hard to like him in undergrad.Nov 2, 2018, 12:45 AMRECIPROCITY AS THE STRONG VERSION OF THE SILVER RULE

    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-31 13:25:00 UTC

  • “Make Aristocracy Great Again: Propertarianism: “— Adam Walker

    —“Make Aristocracy Great Again: Propertarianism: “— Adam Walker

    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-30 21:39:56 UTC

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  • “The White Law. It’s All Natural!”

    “The White Law. It’s All Natural!”

    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-30 21:10:00 UTC

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    October 30th, 2018 10:19 AM WHY WILL PEOPLE WILL RESIST PROPERTARIANISM? (defense of investment in fraud) [P]ropertarianism: All words, phrases, sentences, paragraphs, and arguments consist of measurements accumulating in transactions. Most importantly, propertarian argument makes visible ALL pretense of knowledge – falsifying any claim made with pretense of knowledge. Reciprocity is a value independent test of decidability. With these two tools we can falsify all fraudulent speech (argument). That’s why people FEAR propertarianism. Propertarianism serves its purpose as a formal logic of social science from metaphysics, through epistemology through psychology, sociology, ethics, law, politics group evolutionary strategy and aesthetics. Propertarianism is ‘frightening’ to the ‘frauds’ precisely because it will restore the market for fully informed, warrantied, voluntary exchange, free of imposition of costs by externality upon others. This will deny those who use false language to obtain status and therefore organize non-market action and restore all means of theft. Worse (for the frauds), it eliminates their ability to create false self image and false status signaling thereby ending the competition in the signal (status) economy by fraud. This is why people will resist propertarianism. Because it suppresses lies. Unlike abrahamism, marxism, postmodernism and feminism which enable lies – particularly when industrialized lying was made possible by media and the academy, which could then be used by the state to deceive in order to obtain POWER.

  • Curt Doolittle updated his status.

    October 30th, 2018 10:19 AM WHY WILL PEOPLE WILL RESIST PROPERTARIANISM? (defense of investment in fraud) [P]ropertarianism: All words, phrases, sentences, paragraphs, and arguments consist of measurements accumulating in transactions. Most importantly, propertarian argument makes visible ALL pretense of knowledge – falsifying any claim made with pretense of knowledge. Reciprocity is a value independent test of decidability. With these two tools we can falsify all fraudulent speech (argument). That’s why people FEAR propertarianism. Propertarianism serves its purpose as a formal logic of social science from metaphysics, through epistemology through psychology, sociology, ethics, law, politics group evolutionary strategy and aesthetics. Propertarianism is ‘frightening’ to the ‘frauds’ precisely because it will restore the market for fully informed, warrantied, voluntary exchange, free of imposition of costs by externality upon others. This will deny those who use false language to obtain status and therefore organize non-market action and restore all means of theft. Worse (for the frauds), it eliminates their ability to create false self image and false status signaling thereby ending the competition in the signal (status) economy by fraud. This is why people will resist propertarianism. Because it suppresses lies. Unlike abrahamism, marxism, postmodernism and feminism which enable lies – particularly when industrialized lying was made possible by media and the academy, which could then be used by the state to deceive in order to obtain POWER.

  • All you really need to know about propertarianism

    October 30th, 2018 3:01 PM

    [R]eductive version: “All you need to really understand about propertarianism is that it makes it possible to write law so these f—kers in the financial, media, academy, state, complex can’t keep stealing from you without repercussion, and because of that we can de-financialize, de-propagandize, de-politicize our country and live happily as one income families again.

  • Propertarianism Will Make Their Lives Better and Fast

    October 30th, 2018 2:52 PM THIS IS ALL NORMIES NEED TO UNDERSTAND: PROPERTARIANISM WILL MAKE THEIR LIVES BETTER AND FAST – NOT BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND IT. BUT BECAUSE OF THE LAW IT MAKES POSSIBLE. [N]ormal people are not students of, or interested in, nor necessarily capable of conceiving the world via the tools of calculus, economics, programming, law, or formal logic. They are merely the BENEFICIARIES of it when used by those of us who can. If you merely explain that it is possible to use the law to prohibit the financial sector, the media, politicians and the academy from taking advantage of them by lying to them, and that Propertarianism provides a method of writing the law in order to make that possible, they will understand. Because the work consists largely of: (a) a single value-independent language of logic, science, ethics, politics, economics, and law. (b) a set of criteria for testing whether or not statements made in that language (which is very close to law already) is false (such that it may still be true but it is not false or dependent upon pretense of knowledge). (c) that we can add this to the constitution and the courts fairly easily. And in doing so allow us to continue market support of what we favor, and court suppression of falsehoods that we don’t. (d) and if we do this most of the ‘redistributive demands’ can be made possible by disempowering of the financial, academy, media, and state sector, so that those proceeds can instead by consumed by the people (citizens), (e) so that once again it is possible to bear and rase a family on one income, pay for one’s house, and then save for retirement for the vast majority of the laboring, working, middle, and upper middle classes. That’s it. That’s what they have to understand. The rest of it is just the technical means of constructing, debating, writing, administering, and judging the law such that all of that is possible.