October 27th, 2018 11:10 AM
WHO IS AND ISN’T HUMAN?
—“Curt, Who isn’t currently human?”—Joel Harvey
[I]s the line of demarcation between human and animal:
1) Morphology?
2) Sentience? (Reaction to stimuli)
3) Awareness? (Sympathy-intent/Empathy-experience/Imitation-action)
4) Speech?
5) Reason? (Agency)
As far as I know, it is reason and agency which separates us from the animals.
That means very few of us are yet human. The rest are in different stages of domesticated animal.
And I suspect that number (percentage) corresponds to the pareto minimum.
Yes, really.
Our process of self domestication is far from complete. It is merely sufficient for west and to a lesser degree, east, to drag mankind out of ignorance, superstition, hard labor, filth, poverty, starvation, disease, plagues, suffering, child mortality, early death, continuous violence, and the vicissitudes of nature.
|HUMAN| The gods we aspire to be < Trained Humans < untrained humans < trained animals < untrained animals < untrainable animals.
We domesticated plants, those animals we could domesticate, and those humans we could domesticate.
We just left the job unfinished.
October 27th, 2018 10:58 AM
ARGUING WITH THE LEFT (FEMININE-COGNITIVE PROCESS) MALE
—“I knew it, A veritable scream, I would play organ music and do bongs whilst you chanted in the corner, Ya crack stinks fella, Keep it snappy, 5-second attention span when looking at anything that doesn’t flash, squelch or explode.”— Damien Woodgate
[A]gain. A statement of psychologism, the feminine substitute for argument, by use of “disapproval, shaming, ridicule, gossiping, rallying, reputation destruction, and straw manning”, where the “straw manning” most commonly consists of mirroring the feminine emotional overwhelming of any semblance of agency or reason.
Statement of fact. You have no intrinsic value. You have no value to me or mine. You cannot use the tactics of females because you do not have sex, affection, care, reproduction, or ally-negotiation to trade. You must produce some form of value to trade with me and mine, and demonstrate your fitness to trade with me and mine, BEFORE you have any value, and therefore BEFORE your attempted threat of non-cooperation, undermining, reputation destruction has any persuasive value.
There is a reason for paternalism: sovereignty, reciprocity, truth, duty, rule of law, and markets in everything – so that we domesticate the animals-that-speak, into the humans through training, education, and controlling their breeding.
We domesticated the animal man. We have unfortunately left the job incomplete – as only some of us are currently human.
October 27th, 2018 3:52 PM
ON OPTIMUM PERSONALITY
(from Marginal Revolution)
https://t.co/eh4rRr2Jkp
Toward a theory of optimal personality?
[I]f you are too conscientious, you might experience undue stress during a negative performance review. Or being too agreeable is correlated with lower salary levels, especially for men. And surely too much extroversion and too much openness are possible too?
Rolf Degen reproduces a few relevant paragraphs from a new paper. The work is by Nathan T. Carter, Joshua D. Miller, and Thomas A. Widiger, here is one excerpt from their abstract:
â¦researchers have only recently begun to uncover evidence that extreme standing on ânormalâ or âdesirableâ personality traits might be maladaptiveâ¦many more people possess optimal personality-trait levels than previously thoughtâ¦
—CURT—
What I like about this is evolution from (a) Freudian (clown world), (b) jungian( better and close to literary evidence), (c) big 5 better but therapeutic so seeking IDEAL rather than optimum NETWORK (Division of Labor) traits which results in different distributions of traits.
Rolf, DIdn’t you recently promote that paper on clustering in the big 5? That was premature but closer to my understanding of the division of perceptual, cognitive, negotiative, labor.
October 27th, 2018 3:52 PM
ON OPTIMUM PERSONALITY
(from Marginal Revolution)
https://t.co/eh4rRr2Jkp
Toward a theory of optimal personality?
[I]f you are too conscientious, you might experience undue stress during a negative performance review. Or being too agreeable is correlated with lower salary levels, especially for men. And surely too much extroversion and too much openness are possible too?
Rolf Degen reproduces a few relevant paragraphs from a new paper. The work is by Nathan T. Carter, Joshua D. Miller, and Thomas A. Widiger, here is one excerpt from their abstract:
â¦researchers have only recently begun to uncover evidence that extreme standing on ânormalâ or âdesirableâ personality traits might be maladaptiveâ¦many more people possess optimal personality-trait levels than previously thoughtâ¦
—CURT—
What I like about this is evolution from (a) Freudian (clown world), (b) jungian( better and close to literary evidence), (c) big 5 better but therapeutic so seeking IDEAL rather than optimum NETWORK (Division of Labor) traits which results in different distributions of traits.
Rolf, DIdn’t you recently promote that paper on clustering in the big 5? That was premature but closer to my understanding of the division of perceptual, cognitive, negotiative, labor.
photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/44898909_10156736984502264_8618489398599614464_o_10156736984487264.jpg TOLD YA. MEN/CONSERVATIVE=NOUN (existence).
Female/Liberal = Verb (experience).Paul BardCurt, I’m curious how come neo-liberalism, and by extension the liberal tradition, is fatally flawed and limited?Oct 28, 2018, 3:34 AMCurt DoolittleThe form of government *necessary* for a people depends upon their demographic distribution, homogeneity, and the size of the middle class, because the middle class generates demand for rule of law, and the state generates demand for income from the wealth the middle class generates. So in the competition between rule of law and rule by man, demand is driven by conditions.
THis market is created by the competition for profits by the middle classes and their employees vs rents by the state and their dependents, with the principle difference being that the state can more easily concentrate startup capital and market advantage for heavy capital industries at the cost of corruption – and while the private sector cannot so easily produce the capital and market advantage through trade policy, the private sector can better utilize that capital and suppress state corruption since market competition suppresses rents.
For historical reasons (geography, militia order, and ‘competitive’ bipartite manorialism), the west evolved cross-family corporations rather than intra-family clans, and as such superior trust, superior ability to produce commons because of it, and as such superior ability to generate large scale private sector organizations with greater innovation and returns on capital.
Just as social orders became anchored (religion) during the age of transformation (the restoration after the bronze age collapse) societies became anchored during the industrial transformation after the Abrahamic Collapse (judaism,christianity,islam: the semitic – turkic invasion).
Fukuyama attributed the success of european bureaucracy to its development prior to democracy. Because, despite his stated positions, his analysis favors the sino tradition of monolithic bureaucracy.
Cheers.Oct 28, 2018, 10:19 AMTim Beckley-SpillaneInteresting that the findings argue against a personal need for structure as an adequate explanation of the preference, that is, argue against a biographical or conditional cause. To the extent that men demonstrate the noun preference and women don’t, to the extent that it can be shown to have a biological or genetic cause, it’s a nice corollary to what you’ve said about the divisions of reproductive labor.Oct 28, 2018, 8:29 PMMichael ChurchillThe centrality of the cultural commons … man … that is THE key insight that is completely missing from the entire policy-making matrix today.Oct 30, 2018, 10:55 PMCurt Doolittleyes. because they cant measure it and maintain the mythos.Oct 30, 2018, 10:56 PMTOLD YA. MEN/CONSERVATIVE=NOUN (existence).
photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_43196237263/44898909_10156736984502264_8618489398599614464_o_10156736984487264.jpg TOLD YA. MEN/CONSERVATIVE=NOUN (existence).
Female/Liberal = Verb (experience).Paul Bard@[741197263:2048:Curt], I’m curious how come neo-liberalism, and by extension the liberal tradition, is fatally flawed and limited?Oct 28, 2018 3:34amCurt DoolittleThe form of government *necessary* for a people depends upon their demographic distribution, homogeneity, and the size of the middle class, because the middle class generates demand for rule of law, and the state generates demand for income from the wealth the middle class generates. So in the competition between rule of law and rule by man, demand is driven by conditions.
THis market is created by the competition for profits by the middle classes and their employees vs rents by the state and their dependents, with the principle difference being that the state can more easily concentrate startup capital and market advantage for heavy capital industries at the cost of corruption – and while the private sector cannot so easily produce the capital and market advantage through trade policy, the private sector can better utilize that capital and suppress state corruption since market competition suppresses rents.
For historical reasons (geography, militia order, and ‘competitive’ bipartite manorialism), the west evolved cross-family corporations rather than intra-family clans, and as such superior trust, superior ability to produce commons because of it, and as such superior ability to generate large scale private sector organizations with greater innovation and returns on capital.
Just as social orders became anchored (religion) during the age of transformation (the restoration after the bronze age collapse) societies became anchored during the industrial transformation after the Abrahamic Collapse (judaism,christianity,islam: the semitic – turkic invasion).
Fukuyama attributed the success of european bureaucracy to its development prior to democracy. Because, despite his stated positions, his analysis favors the sino tradition of monolithic bureaucracy.
Cheers.Oct 28, 2018 10:19amTim SpillaneInteresting that the findings argue against a personal need for structure as an adequate explanation of the preference, that is, argue against a biographical or conditional cause. To the extent that men demonstrate the noun preference and women don’t, to the extent that it can be shown to have a biological or genetic cause, it’s a nice corollary to what you’ve said about the divisions of reproductive labor.Oct 28, 2018 8:29pmTOLD YA. MEN/CONSERVATIVE=NOUN (existence).
photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/44942019_10156736979742264_5394455533384105984_o_10156736979737264.jpg AGAIN, ALL STEREOTYPES ARE TRUE
https://t.co/zCti4BNwcTGünther Shroomacherfaces are very informative
https://www.datasciencecentral.com/profiles/blogs/ai-s-ethical-dilemma-an-unexpectedly-urgent-problem?fbclid=IwAR1YMHrjeXhla83wF0V8NHi-GjN3x6yKCMKic23JbV-b2ipIeU3OpjX3tlkOct 27, 2018, 4:24 PMCurt DoolittleYes, that’s a great study
Goes to show that we are REALLY GOOD at categorizing people and that as we expected, people’s history is written in their faces.Oct 27, 2018, 5:06 PMRay MicalettiPhysiognomy is realOct 27, 2018, 8:19 PMTomás Rodriguez VillegasCurt Doolittle what do you think about Cesare Lombroso’s studies and conclusions?Oct 27, 2018, 8:34 PMCurt Doolittle( Liam Eddy usually helps us with questions of criminality, and my experience is that he is more up-to-date than I am.)
For Lombroso, AFAIK, he sort of had it backwards: our faces display our histories because our brain records our histories.
(a) Yes there are features that show developmental asymmetries that may also cause increase the chances of criminality. Most of these are well know, but testosterone load is on of them. However the evidence is that it’s cognitive load in combination with those features is what creates the problem.
(b) People who engage in criminal activity bear the memories of it, and as such, these people’s faces bear the results. the combination morphology and expression (wear, habit).
(c) These traits appear to be visible in behavior by age nine.
(d) As new AI’s have demonstrated, we can identify criminals by face with more than 90% accuracy, and similarly for homosexuality. Unfortunately we can’t test humans out of context because they can’t self report well enough from pictures, while AI’s can.
(e) As far as I know criminality, intelligence, race, social class, and personality profiles are correlated by they fucking HATE the research and work like hell to deny it. because that would END the american experiment (ideology).
So as far as I know it’s a cumulative problem. Assuming someone doesn’t have a personality disorder, criminality seems to depend on the accumulated weights of intelligence, personality, age, gender, race, familial environment, socio-economic class, social environment, environmental opportunity.
The more the worse so to speak, but the truth is we are all vulnerable to acts of desperation, and some of us are less able to create environments that are free of periods of desperation.Oct 27, 2018, 8:56 PMTomás Rodriguez VillegasCurt Doolittle thanks for the answer. Regarding (b) I guess the same could be said about war veterans right?Oct 27, 2018, 9:31 PMCurt DoolittleTomás Rodriguez Villegas all of us reallyOct 27, 2018, 9:34 PMTomás Rodriguez VillegasCurt Doolittle yupOct 27, 2018, 9:38 PMKash Vikaashttps://www.amazon.com/Social-Perception-Reality-Dominates-Self-Fulfilling/dp/0195366603Oct 28, 2018, 3:16 AMMegan K. UsuiCurt, funny story. I was in college during the OJ trial. After the verdict, I encouraged the black student union to host a symposium on race to have a ‘civil’ campus discussion. While all of the speakers delivered the expected neo-marxist claptrap (which I only understood in hindsight), I addressed the reality of stereotypes as a path towards healing the racial divide. Everyone of course looked at me sideways. Youth.Oct 28, 2018, 11:43 PMDaniel Roland AndersonWhat did you do for an encore? Give your “Holocaust Notwithstanding, Hitler Made Some Mistakes” speech?Oct 29, 2018, 3:41 AMCurt Doolittle( Ok. you gotta understand. Megan is a nerd. Kind of a supernerd. Just a chick version. A pretty AWESOME chick version tho. lol. Very hard to find these women. Almost impossible to find them without any crazy factor. My wife was one of the unicorns. megan is another unicorn. unicorn females exist. lol they are just rare, and you don’t find them in glades in forests…. They hide in plain sight. 😉 )Oct 29, 2018, 8:00 AMScott Claremontand here’s me thinking youre in your late 20’s..Oct 29, 2018, 8:32 AMCurt DoolittleMe? I’m emotionally 14, socially 27, mentally 800, and physically who cares as long as I can still get laid…. lolOct 29, 2018, 8:33 AMScott ClaremontCurt Doolittle no megan! but that’s a good mix. it allows you to be playful and intimate while youre being a intellectual staunch lordOct 29, 2018, 8:41 AMScott ClaremontWhile I got ya, wanted to let you know youre one of my hero’s. I don’t have the capacity or ability to do what you do, I thank god there are people like you alive who have the processing power to generate what you do. Love coming to class..Oct 29, 2018, 8:49 AMCurt DoolittleScott Claremont love you man. made my day. lets fight the good fight…. ;)Oct 29, 2018, 8:50 AMRaymond WarnerWhen you have a election poll a sample represents the wholeOct 29, 2018, 9:12 AMMegan K. UsuiScott Claremont don’t be fooled. Curt’s just my pimp LOL. Add that to the ‘mix.’Oct 29, 2018, 9:58 AMCurt DoolittleMegan K. Usui ouch… dammit. lolOct 29, 2018, 9:58 AMScott ClaremontMegan K. Usui oh.. I thought Richard was your Pimp.. or maybe he’s applying for the job lolOct 29, 2018, 5:00 PMCurt DoolittleEvery fking nerd hits on megan cause she’s rational, conversant, dominant, and attractive. The problem is, those nerds are in fact, anerds. Or let me put it differently. There is a degree of adolescent narcissism in the community because males who are very analytical use themselves for comparison since they cannot use empathy and therefore others for comparison. This causes all sorts of negative feedback loops., Some of us are able to circumvent that feedback loop, work at understanding others, make use of that understanding of others, and produce some accomplishments as well. The problem for women like Megan (any dominant rational female) is that those (rare) men (who are desirable ) are unicorns and in high demand. (hence why I tell ‘our kind’ to get fit, socialize, compete, and achieve, because as you get older your market value will continue to increase.)
Nothing is complicated.Oct 29, 2018, 5:11 PMRichard NikoleyNot. Touching. This.Oct 29, 2018, 5:28 PMScott ClaremontCurt Doolittle can you talk more of what a desirable man looks like..?Oct 29, 2018, 5:47 PMScott ClaremontOr Megan can add..Oct 29, 2018, 5:48 PMCurt Doolittlemegan will now call me her pimp again – or something even worse…. lol…Oct 29, 2018, 6:12 PMMegan K. UsuiBjorn Moritz I need an image of Curt with pom poms and a short skirt.Oct 29, 2018, 6:21 PMCurt DoolittleMegan K. Usui Have I said that you fight dirty recently????Oct 29, 2018, 6:44 PMMegan K. UsuiScott Claremont all jokes aside, Rollo Tomassi’s recent blog on body language (with descriptive photos) says a LOT about “desirable” males from a female POV. It’s quite devastating but true: https://therationalmale.com/2018/09/26/body-language/Oct 29, 2018, 6:47 PMMegan K. UsuiCurt – “Recently”??? 😂Oct 29, 2018, 6:48 PMCurt DoolittleMegan K. Usui A euphemism for “can I get away with repeating myself again….”Oct 29, 2018, 6:55 PMRob McMullanCurt gave me the truth and said ‘you can’t cheat your sexual market value so stop trying… just get fit’Oct 29, 2018, 7:18 PMRob McMullanSo I did…Oct 29, 2018, 7:20 PMRob McMullanOct 29, 2018, 7:20 PMRob McMullanAnd now the girl that I was chasing for months is in love with me hahaOct 29, 2018, 7:22 PMMegan K. UsuiRob McMullan – Nice work, now check out that body language post. It may help you keep her ;)Oct 29, 2018, 7:25 PMRob McMullanI have every ability as much as anyone else on these corners of the inter webs to escape into intellectualism and even ‘look down’ on how society perceives these things, but Curt said it straight… you can’t cheat your SMV so don’t even try.
If you are smart, you’re not supposed to me smart ‘instead of’, your supposed to be smart ‘as well as’.
If your smart ‘instead of’ attractive and successful then you’re just a nerd. If you’re smart ‘as well as’ then you’re killing it 😉Oct 29, 2018, 7:27 PMRob McMullanMegan K. Usui thanks will do, although it’s not looking like I’ll have any problems keeping her so far.Oct 29, 2018, 7:27 PMRichard NikoleyEveryone keep it up, please. You’re giving me hints on what to ask Noah Revoy tomorrow.
Specifics are fine.Oct 29, 2018, 7:31 PMRob McMullanRichard Nikoley Noah J Revoy is awesome. I chat to him, highly recommended.Oct 29, 2018, 7:31 PMDaniel Roland AndersonMegan K. Usui
Aaaaaaannnd, with that picture in my head, what I need is alcohol.Oct 29, 2018, 8:01 PMDaniel Roland AndersonRob McMullan
( Pssst! Dude, don’t talk about weight for awhile. Somebody called Curt rotund, and I’m pretty sure the Cult War Bands are our lookin for the culprit. He’s just very sensitive right now. I offered to rub his back, so he could be happy—-just for a few minutes.
Then this ACTUAL cult leader called him stupid.—that’s how she obliterated him in this debate-type-thing!! Brilliant move! Who saw that coming?? Curt just needs our support right now.)Oct 29, 2018, 8:08 PMScott ClaremontMegan K. Usui hmmm. Ultimately it’s a power game I think. I desire a balance of playfulness/silliness with intimacy/tenderness. *this is when you’re exclusive* so far I have failed lol
Megan, does being too smart for your own good gets in the way of intimacy? *assuming you areOct 29, 2018, 10:02 PMRichard NikoleyScott Claremont Megan is not too smart for her own good.
She is, as Curt described, a total unicorn.
Like Curt, I have met her face to face and she is a graceful, attentive female, lovely and aborable. She super knows how to treat a man. Zero hubris, zero B or C. It’s almost embarrassing because so unusual. It’s like she embraces a Geisha sort of ethic. One who is a master at social engagement for a man. It’s a practiced skill.
Intimidating. Viciously delicious.Oct 29, 2018, 10:41 PMMegan K. UsuiScott Claremont That “balance” of which you speak lives inside of another, perhaps unspoken, power game where the male reigns. Women mate across and up, right? Then a woman who is only satiated by off the charts high IQ men COUPLED with neo-barbarian instincts must be smart enough to capture the unicorns. Very, very difficult to be smart enough for one’s own GOOD.Oct 29, 2018, 11:01 PMRichard NikoleyBack when I showed up in Japan in 1984, the newly arrived dummies were often heard “I’m gonna get me a Geisha.”
There was a micro culture at the Navy Base in Yokosuka. Enlisted men who had gone tour after tour since going back to the Korean War. They go across the pier to a new ship every two years, maybe do a shore tour.
They’re all married to Japanese women they snagged out and about, who now live on base and they raise bilingual kids. Most send them to Japanese schools off base.
These guys would instruct the young arrivals in what a Geisha was. To put it in terms for this audience, she entertains the Sigma males expertly. It’s not prostitution by any stretch.
The betas just go pay. The Alphas do their game. The Sigmas get the pleasure of skilled banter.
At least that was the way it was. There are no true Geisha in Japan, anymore. What does that mean?Oct 29, 2018, 11:27 PMScott ClaremontMegan K. Usui I think the ability to recognize and articulate intimacy and tenderness with another is rare in and of itself. It’s what separates the spoken from the unspoken. Understanding what’s going on there.. Would that be classified as agency?Oct 29, 2018, 11:57 PMMegan K. UsuiScott Claremont Not to be a killjoy, I don’t think agency is the right term in that context but Curt is a better judge. FWIW, I’m not into Esther Perel-styled INTO-ME-SEE sexual dynamics, and therefore totally unqualified to make any comments about EQ. Some men insist that men and women are in perpetual combat, never partnership, and at best at a temporary armistice; that paradigm matches my own experience.Oct 30, 2018, 12:09 AMRichard NikoleyMegan says:
“Very, very difficult to be smart enough for ones own Good.”
This is true, per se. of course, smarts always generally result in better survival outcomes and survival is eugenic, per se, as well.
But human sociality always results in trades. It’s probably extremely outlier that a razor sharp hottie guides an oaf properly in competent defense if survival is on the line.
The true value in female smarts is in guiding and training and directing the male combination of smarts, brawn, hubris, and essential blood lust.
Males are way more distributed in terms of innate and learned. The female is the natural computer that selects decent mixes of what nature and society provides.
The very best of them encourage and nurture.
Dudes like to break shit, fix shit, create shit, build shit, protect shit and all sorts of stuff like that. That’s the hardware and ROM. Females are the programming.Oct 30, 2018, 12:16 AMMegan K. UsuiRichard Nikoley women directing men? Major face palm.Oct 30, 2018, 12:21 AMRichard NikoleyMegan K. Usui It’s not what I said. You’re just being flippant.
That’s what you think you wanted to hear what I said. It’s like I tell women all the time “that’s just what you think you want to think.”
Think Sigma. You know, the guys who mock or pet betas, and never care what alphas think.
Of course females program, dummy. All humanity comes from female, and are nursed and nurtured. Don’t be stupid and hubristic with me, Megan, especially not when I’m seeking mutual understanding.
“face palm” is cunty behavior in the context of a discussion like this, far beneath you.Oct 30, 2018, 12:28 AMRichard NikoleyRob McMullan
“Women and men choose and select each other.”
Like what, a lottery? Bingo?
I think men and women ought both try for those they think are a catch, out of reach, and make an investment.
It’s not a department store.Oct 30, 2018, 12:39 AMRichard Nikoley“Richard Nikoley women directing men? Major face palm.”
Uh, oh, Meagan. You fucking lied.
I used the word guide.
Is that cunty, or what, just so you could say “major face palm?”
Huh, Meagan?
How about give us a distinction between guide and direct.
You are SO intent in besting me and embarrassing me publicly, aren’t you?Oct 30, 2018, 12:46 AMMegan K. UsuiRob McMullan if a woman perceives her sexual market value to be higher than her mates, nagging ensues. If a woman has to start engaging in “directing” it means she’s shopping elsewhere. Most women settle for less than their perceived SMV because we all think we’re great where it counts and are largely clueless about our actual defects and wonder how on earth men could leave them and resort to men are assholes theory.Oct 30, 2018, 1:01 AMMegan K. UsuiAl Freeman clean up – aisle 4!Oct 30, 2018, 1:01 AMRob McMullanMegan K. Tsui Yes I agree… and what I was saying is that yes many women will lose great guys because as you said, we can all be less than perfectly objective about our SMV, some more so than others, and because of that flaw in these women they will end up worse off.
When directing was brought into this conversation I wasn’t thinking nagging, I was thinking more of women directing men’s behaviour using the stick and carrot of subtly building him up vs tearing him down. And I know a lot of great men, and I don’t know any decent one who isn’t to some degree susceptible to this from his woman.
Curt also referenced this saying that women don’t like men who are able to be directly bossed about, but love the game of subtly manipulating them (or letting them think they are hahaha).
So I don’t know how that fits into what you’re saying, but I see women ‘directing’ men like this all the time and it doesn’t look like a negative to me. But yes, i’m talking about something totally different than men failing a shit test and being bossed around.Oct 30, 2018, 1:09 AMMegan K. UsuiShit tests run a spectrum. “Directing” as you put it as a subtle form of it.Oct 30, 2018, 1:12 AMRichard NikoleyMegan K. Usui “Al Freeman clean up – aisle 4!”
LOL. You SO want to have someone clean up my shit, don’t you.
I do no know Al and have zero idea why you summon him to “clean up.”
We’re dudes, perceptive I gather about him. Perhaps we can have a discussion about how females are generally just worthless in electronic banter, even when Red Pill.
There’s a topic for discussion.
Can a female every really surrender? Even when Red pilling it out on the Internet making men yawn?Oct 30, 2018, 1:15 AMScott ClaremontMegan K. Usui “INTO ME SEE” I thought that was from Austin powers?
By intimacy I mean closeness with another. I guess it’s a projection or a human need …Oct 30, 2018, 1:15 AMMegan K. UsuiWomen like men who are deemed men by other men.Oct 30, 2018, 1:17 AMRob McMullanMegan K. Tsui Sure, but i’m also thinking that this kind of subtle directing as I put it, is how women often have power. And I think that many women will have no interest in a relationship that they have no power in either.Oct 30, 2018, 1:17 AMRichard NikoleyMegan female blather:
“Rob McMullan if a woman perceives her sexual market value to be higher than her mates, nagging ensues. If a woman has to start engaging in “directing” it means she’s shopping elsewhere. Most women settle for less than their perceived SMV because we all think we’re great where it counts and are largely clueless about our actual defects and wonder how on earth men could leave them and resort to men are assholes theory.”
Such a mix of BS in practical terms.
Grandmothers and my mother knew and knows how to tame and guide males, and raise kids, and put on fabulous family gatherings on special occasions.
Megan is preaching feminism from a non-familial perspective and my argument is that the female creates and nurtures the family, it’s fucking hard, and this is a major face palm for her.Oct 30, 2018, 1:23 AMRichard NikoleyRob McMullan Megan brought in “directing” as a lie. I used the word guide.
So, go forth on her lie if you like, but it’s all non-sequitur cuntiness to me.
And an abject lie.Oct 30, 2018, 1:25 AMMegan K. Usui–“The true value in female smarts is in guiding and training and directing the male combination of smarts, brawn, hubris, and essential blood lust.”–Oct 30, 2018, 1:35 AMRichard NikoleyRob McMullan I read you’re full comment after getting inpatient with Megan’s female insolence and rallying.
I agree in full and it’s not to blow smoke up your ass, but for keeping your wits about you and checking her gently.
That’s good.
Indeed. It’s a priori that female guidance is part of all of everything.
I’m 57 years old and I don’t only talk to my dad. That’s a bit mundane. My 77 year old mom (she sees everything), asks me pressing questions I did not ask of myself. That makes me look.
Megan was so intent on handing me a dis publicly, calling in others to clean up, this is how it went.
Females cannot help themselves.
Dudes get along, cause violence is costly. Bicker is free.Oct 30, 2018, 1:42 AMRichard Nikoley“Shit tests run a spectrum. “Directing” as you put it as a subtle form of it.”
Shut up, Megan and go from this convo.
You lied, about me. You have no standing here, now.
Come back to fight another day and do better.
I will not let you get away with it and pretend it didn’t happen.
Go away, now.Oct 30, 2018, 1:45 AMRichard Nikoley“–“The true value in female smarts is in guiding and training and directing the male combination of smarts, brawn, hubris, and essential blood lust.”–
Ah, the female shit test.
The thing you need to understand about it, is that the last the female wishes to do is ask a question (the post was not a challenge to her), clarify, come to terms, or anything.
She wants to use the “ethics” of feminism to fuck with you, knowing full well that without the protection of the surrogate grandfather, father, and husband of socialism, she’s pretty safe if you’re smart.
Of course, this isn’t IRL, but intelligent chicks like Megan amuse themselves similarly online.
They know there is no natural danger, a synthesis born of the feminization of society. But she’ll take it.
Worse, it’s dishonest. I fucking hate dishonestly. I hope to explore this with Curt on Wednesday. From my perspective, I see a lot of “truth telling” dishonesty. I have understood the distinction since 1991. I want to explore that with Curt.
Megan, you very fucking well knew and know that I don’t advocate females directing males around.
But, you went all cunty about it, and then called in forces to clean up.
I’m not one of your boys. Hope none of them are, either.
When in the fuck are you going to lean to never, ever fuck with me in public?
Have you not all the dispensation you need, privately?Oct 30, 2018, 2:01 AMDaniel Roland AndersonAlex Birch
Check this thread out bud. Some really good stuff here.Oct 30, 2018, 3:29 AMAlex BirchThanks. I’ll save it and look at it tomorrow. Remind me if I don’t comment.Oct 30, 2018, 3:47 AMRichard NikoleyAlex Birch “Thanks. I’ll save it and look at it tomorrow. Remind me if I don’t comment.”
Zero people on all of planet Earth are holding breath.Oct 30, 2018, 7:14 AMRichard NikoleyMegan, what is the nature of Alex Birch’s comment? I see nothing in the thread. If I click on his profile, I see a boy smoking a pipe. Cool enough.
I did the same when in my 20s.
My guess is you called him privately to come “clean up.”
Am I right?
Bring him on, pipe and all.Oct 30, 2018, 7:22 AMDaniel Roland AndersonAlex Birch
Will do. Excellent, actionable stuff. And the comments to Megan’s comment are useful as well. Great discussion.
To focus on developing strengths, not focusing too much on weaknesses can hardly be bad advice, eh?Oct 30, 2018, 10:24 AMAl Freeman”Dudes get along, because violence is costly”
Indeed
Megan is an interesting soul, but she has a grand tendency to overthink and overcomplicate things when it comes to relations between men and women.
As the definition of direct includes “to guide”, you may be pushing the bickering button yourself.
Women should guide, or direct, somewhat on a familial level, just not in the ways in which we are used to. Historically familial women have often been a positive catalyst by shaming their husbands and sons into action via indirect means. A woman could not hold power in her own right, but she indirectly carried the power of her father or husband, so she used her means to increase their power.
I’m not sure why I was called into this dysfunctional mess.
Nice to meet you Richard, send me a message if you want to chat.Oct 30, 2018, 12:49 PMAGAIN, ALL STEREOTYPES ARE TRUE
photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_43196237263/44942019_10156736979742264_5394455533384105984_o_10156736979737264.jpg AGAIN, ALL STEREOTYPES ARE TRUE
https://t.co/zCti4BNwcTGünther Shroomacherfaces are very informative
https://www.datasciencecentral.com/profiles/blogs/ai-s-ethical-dilemma-an-unexpectedly-urgent-problem?fbclid=IwAR1YMHrjeXhla83wF0V8NHi-GjN3x6yKCMKic23JbV-b2ipIeU3OpjX3tlkOct 27, 2018 4:24pmCurt DoolittleYes, that’s a great study
Goes to show that we are REALLY GOOD at categorizing people and that as we expected, people’s history is written in their faces.Oct 27, 2018 5:06pmRay MicalettiPhysiognomy is realOct 27, 2018 8:19pmTomás Rodriguez Villegas@[741197263:2048:Curt Doolittle] what do you think about Cesare Lombroso’s studies and conclusions?Oct 27, 2018 8:34pmCurt Doolittle( @[100000288708538:2048:Liam Eddy] usually helps us with questions of criminality, and my experience is that he is more up-to-date than I am.)
For Lombroso, AFAIK, he sort of had it backwards: our faces display our histories because our brain records our histories.
(a) Yes there are features that show developmental asymmetries that may also cause increase the chances of criminality. Most of these are well know, but testosterone load is on of them. However the evidence is that it’s cognitive load in combination with those features is what creates the problem.
(b) People who engage in criminal activity bear the memories of it, and as such, these people’s faces bear the results. the combination morphology and expression (wear, habit).
(c) These traits appear to be visible in behavior by age nine.
(d) As new AI’s have demonstrated, we can identify criminals by face with more than 90% accuracy, and similarly for homosexuality. Unfortunately we can’t test humans out of context because they can’t self report well enough from pictures, while AI’s can.
(e) As far as I know criminality, intelligence, race, social class, and personality profiles are correlated by they fucking HATE the research and work like hell to deny it. because that would END the american experiment (ideology).
So as far as I know it’s a cumulative problem. Assuming someone doesn’t have a personality disorder, criminality seems to depend on the accumulated weights of intelligence, personality, age, gender, race, familial environment, socio-economic class, social environment, environmental opportunity.
The more the worse so to speak, but the truth is we are all vulnerable to acts of desperation, and some of us are less able to create environments that are free of periods of desperation.Oct 27, 2018 8:56pmTomás Rodriguez Villegas@[741197263:2048:Curt Doolittle] thanks for the answer. Regarding (b) I guess the same could be said about war veterans right?Oct 27, 2018 9:31pmCurt Doolittle@[1044216036:2048:Tomás Rodriguez Villegas] all of us reallyOct 27, 2018 9:34pmTomás Rodriguez Villegas@[741197263:2048:Curt Doolittle] yupOct 27, 2018 9:38pmTom Tomorrowhttps://www.amazon.com/Social-Perception-Reality-Dominates-Self-Fulfilling/dp/0195366603Oct 28, 2018 3:16amMegan K. UsuiCurt, funny story. I was in college during the OJ trial. After the verdict, I encouraged the black student union to host a symposium on race to have a ‘civil’ campus discussion. While all of the speakers delivered the expected neo-marxist claptrap (which I only understood in hindsight), I addressed the reality of stereotypes as a path towards healing the racial divide. Everyone of course looked at me sideways. Youth.Oct 28, 2018 11:43pmDaniel Roland AndersonWhat did you do for an encore? Give your “Holocaust Notwithstanding, Hitler Made Some Mistakes” speech?Oct 29, 2018 3:41amCurt Doolittle( Ok. you gotta understand. Megan is a nerd. Kind of a supernerd. Just a chick version. A pretty AWESOME chick version tho. lol. Very hard to find these women. Almost impossible to find them without any crazy factor. My wife was one of the unicorns. megan is another unicorn. unicorn females exist. lol they are just rare, and you don’t find them in glades in forests…. They hide in plain sight. 😉 )Oct 29, 2018 8:00amScott Claremontand here’s me thinking youre in your late 20’s..Oct 29, 2018 8:32amCurt DoolittleMe? I’m emotionally 14, socially 27, mentally 800, and physically who cares as long as I can still get laid…. lolOct 29, 2018 8:33amScott Claremont@[741197263:2048:Curt Doolittle] no megan! but that’s a good mix. it allows you to be playful and intimate while youre being a intellectual staunch lordOct 29, 2018 8:41amScott ClaremontWhile I got ya, wanted to let you know youre one of my hero’s. I don’t have the capacity or ability to do what you do, I thank god there are people like you alive who have the processing power to generate what you do. Love coming to class..Oct 29, 2018 8:49amCurt Doolittle@[100000423868307:2048:Scott Claremont] love you man. made my day. lets fight the good fight…. ;)Oct 29, 2018 8:50amRaymond WarnerWhen you have a election poll a sample represents the wholeOct 29, 2018 9:12amMegan K. Usui@[100000423868307:2048:Scott Claremont] don’t be fooled. Curt’s just my pimp LOL. Add that to the ‘mix.’Oct 29, 2018 9:58amCurt Doolittle@[100014934584772:2048:Megan K. Usui] ouch… dammit. lolOct 29, 2018 9:58amScott Claremont@[100014934584772:2048:Megan K. Usui] oh.. I thought @[100009672279790:2048:Richard] was your Pimp.. or maybe he’s applying for the job lolOct 29, 2018 5:00pmCurt DoolittleEvery fking nerd hits on megan cause she’s rational, conversant, dominant, and attractive. The problem is, those nerds are in fact, anerds. Or let me put it differently. There is a degree of adolescent narcissism in the community because males who are very analytical use themselves for comparison since they cannot use empathy and therefore others for comparison. This causes all sorts of negative feedback loops., Some of us are able to circumvent that feedback loop, work at understanding others, make use of that understanding of others, and produce some accomplishments as well. The problem for women like Megan (any dominant rational female) is that those (rare) men (who are desirable ) are unicorns and in high demand. (hence why I tell ‘our kind’ to get fit, socialize, compete, and achieve, because as you get older your market value will continue to increase.)
Nothing is complicated.Oct 29, 2018 5:11pmRichard NikoleyNot. Touching. This.Oct 29, 2018 5:28pmScott Claremont@[741197263:2048:Curt Doolittle] can you talk more of what a desirable man looks like..?Oct 29, 2018 5:47pmScott ClaremontOr Megan can add..Oct 29, 2018 5:48pmCurt Doolittlemegan will now call me her pimp again – or something even worse…. lol…Oct 29, 2018 6:12pmMegan K. Usui@[687166933:2048:Bjorn Moritz] I need an image of Curt with pom poms and a short skirt.Oct 29, 2018 6:21pmCurt Doolittle@[100014934584772:2048:Megan K. Usui] Have I said that you fight dirty recently????Oct 29, 2018 6:44pmMegan K. Usui@[100000423868307:2048:Scott Claremont] all jokes aside, Rollo Tomassi’s recent blog on body language (with descriptive photos) says a LOT about “desirable” males from a female POV. It’s quite devastating but true: https://therationalmale.com/2018/09/26/body-language/Oct 29, 2018 6:47pmMegan K. Usui@[741197263:2048:Curt] – “Recently”??? 😂Oct 29, 2018 6:48pmCurt Doolittle@[100014934584772:2048:Megan K. Usui] A euphemism for “can I get away with repeating myself again….”Oct 29, 2018 6:55pmRob McMullan@[741197263:2048:Curt] gave me the truth and said ‘you can’t cheat your sexual market value so stop trying… just get fit’Oct 29, 2018 7:18pmRob McMullanSo I did…Oct 29, 2018 7:20pmRob McMullanOct 29, 2018 7:20pmRob McMullanAnd now the girl that I was chasing for months is in love with me hahaOct 29, 2018 7:22pmMegan K. Usui@[666271573:2048:Rob McMullan] – Nice work, now check out that body language post. It may help you keep her ;)Oct 29, 2018 7:25pmRob McMullanI have every ability as much as anyone else on these corners of the inter webs to escape into intellectualism and even ‘look down’ on how society perceives these things, but Curt said it straight… you can’t cheat your SMV so don’t even try.
If you are smart, you’re not supposed to me smart ‘instead of’, your supposed to be smart ‘as well as’.
If your smart ‘instead of’ attractive and successful then you’re just a nerd. If you’re smart ‘as well as’ then you’re killing it 😉Oct 29, 2018 7:27pmRob McMullan@[100014934584772:2048:Megan K. Usui] thanks will do, although it’s not looking like I’ll have any problems keeping her so far.Oct 29, 2018 7:27pmRichard NikoleyEveryone keep it up, please. You’re giving me hints on what to ask @[121881935136443:274:Noah Revoy] tomorrow.
Specifics are fine.Oct 29, 2018 7:31pmRob McMullan@[100009672279790:2048:Richard Nikoley] @[1749340484:2048:Noah J Revoy] is awesome. I chat to him, highly recommended.Oct 29, 2018 7:31pmDaniel Roland Anderson@[100014934584772:2048:Megan K. Usui]
Aaaaaaannnd, with that picture in my head, what I need is alcohol.Oct 29, 2018 8:01pmDaniel Roland Anderson@[666271573:2048:Rob McMullan]
( Pssst! Dude, don’t talk about weight for awhile. Somebody called @[741197263:2048:Curt] rotund, and I’m pretty sure the Cult War Bands are our lookin for the culprit. He’s just very sensitive right now. I offered to rub his back, so he could be happy—-just for a few minutes.
Then this ACTUAL cult leader called him stupid.—that’s how she obliterated him in this debate-type-thing!! Brilliant move! Who saw that coming?? Curt just needs our support right now.)Oct 29, 2018 8:08pmScott Claremont@[100014934584772:2048:Megan K. Usui] hmmm. Ultimately it’s a power game I think. I desire a balance of playfulness/silliness with intimacy/tenderness. *this is when you’re exclusive* so far I have failed lol
Megan, does being too smart for your own good gets in the way of intimacy? *assuming you areOct 29, 2018 10:02pmRichard Nikoley@[100000423868307:2048:Scott Claremont] Megan is not too smart for her own good.
She is, as Curt described, a total unicorn.
Like Curt, I have met her face to face and she is a graceful, attentive female, lovely and aborable. She super knows how to treat a man. Zero hubris, zero B or C. It’s almost embarrassing because so unusual. It’s like she embraces a Geisha sort of ethic. One who is a master at social engagement for a man. It’s a practiced skill.
Intimidating. Viciously delicious.Oct 29, 2018 10:41pmMegan K. Usui@[100000423868307:2048:Scott Claremont] That “balance” of which you speak lives inside of another, perhaps unspoken, power game where the male reigns. Women mate across and up, right? Then a woman who is only satiated by off the charts high IQ men COUPLED with neo-barbarian instincts must be smart enough to capture the unicorns. Very, very difficult to be smart enough for one’s own GOOD.Oct 29, 2018 11:01pmRichard NikoleyBack when I showed up in Japan in 1984, the newly arrived dummies were often heard “I’m gonna get me a Geisha.”
There was a micro culture at the Navy Base in Yokosuka. Enlisted men who had gone tour after tour since going back to the Korean War. They go across the pier to a new ship every two years, maybe do a shore tour.
They’re all married to Japanese women they snagged out and about, who now live on base and they raise bilingual kids. Most send them to Japanese schools off base.
These guys would instruct the young arrivals in what a Geisha was. To put it in terms for this audience, she entertains the Sigma males expertly. It’s not prostitution by any stretch.
The betas just go pay. The Alphas do their game. The Sigmas get the pleasure of skilled banter.
At least that was the way it was. There are no true Geisha in Japan, anymore. What does that mean?Oct 29, 2018 11:27pmScott Claremont@[100014934584772:2048:Megan K. Usui] I think the ability to recognize and articulate intimacy and tenderness with another is rare in and of itself. It’s what separates the spoken from the unspoken. Understanding what’s going on there.. Would that be classified as agency?Oct 29, 2018 11:57pmMegan K. Usui@[100000423868307:2048:Scott Claremont] Not to be a killjoy, I don’t think agency is the right term in that context but Curt is a better judge. FWIW, I’m not into Esther Perel-styled INTO-ME-SEE sexual dynamics, and therefore totally unqualified to make any comments about EQ. Some men insist that men and women are in perpetual combat, never partnership, and at best at a temporary armistice; that paradigm matches my own experience.Oct 30, 2018 12:09amRichard NikoleyMegan says:
“Very, very difficult to be smart enough for ones own Good.”
This is true, per se. of course, smarts always generally result in better survival outcomes and survival is eugenic, per se, as well.
But human sociality always results in trades. It’s probably extremely outlier that a razor sharp hottie guides an oaf properly in competent defense if survival is on the line.
The true value in female smarts is in guiding and training and directing the male combination of smarts, brawn, hubris, and essential blood lust.
Males are way more distributed in terms of innate and learned. The female is the natural computer that selects decent mixes of what nature and society provides.
The very best of them encourage and nurture.
Dudes like to break shit, fix shit, create shit, build shit, protect shit and all sorts of stuff like that. That’s the hardware and ROM. Females are the programming.Oct 30, 2018 12:16amMegan K. Usui@[100009672279790:2048:Richard Nikoley] women directing men? Major face palm.Oct 30, 2018 12:21amRichard Nikoley@[100014934584772:2048:Megan K. Usui] It’s not what I said. You’re just being flippant.
That’s what you think you wanted to hear what I said. It’s like I tell women all the time “that’s just what you think you want to think.”
Think Sigma. You know, the guys who mock or pet betas, and never care what alphas think.
Of course females program, dummy. All humanity comes from female, and are nursed and nurtured. Don’t be stupid and hubristic with me, Megan, especially not when I’m seeking mutual understanding.
“face palm” is cunty behavior in the context of a discussion like this, far beneath you.Oct 30, 2018 12:28amRichard Nikoley@[666271573:2048:Rob McMullan]
“Women and men choose and select each other.”
Like what, a lottery? Bingo?
I think men and women ought both try for those they think are a catch, out of reach, and make an investment.
It’s not a department store.Oct 30, 2018 12:39amRichard Nikoley“Richard Nikoley women directing men? Major face palm.”
Uh, oh, Meagan. You fucking lied.
I used the word guide.
Is that cunty, or what, just so you could say “major face palm?”
Huh, Meagan?
How about give us a distinction between guide and direct.
You are SO intent in besting me and embarrassing me publicly, aren’t you?Oct 30, 2018 12:46amMegan K. Usui@[666271573:2048:Rob McMullan] if a woman perceives her sexual market value to be higher than her mates, nagging ensues. If a woman has to start engaging in “directing” it means she’s shopping elsewhere. Most women settle for less than their perceived SMV because we all think we’re great where it counts and are largely clueless about our actual defects and wonder how on earth men could leave them and resort to men are assholes theory.Oct 30, 2018 1:01amMegan K. Usui@[638418131:2048:Al Freeman] clean up – aisle 4!Oct 30, 2018 1:01amRob McMullanMegan K. Tsui Yes I agree… and what I was saying is that yes many women will lose great guys because as you said, we can all be less than perfectly objective about our SMV, some more so than others, and because of that flaw in these women they will end up worse off.
When directing was brought into this conversation I wasn’t thinking nagging, I was thinking more of women directing men’s behaviour using the stick and carrot of subtly building him up vs tearing him down. And I know a lot of great men, and I don’t know any decent one who isn’t to some degree susceptible to this from his woman.
Curt also referenced this saying that women don’t like men who are able to be directly bossed about, but love the game of subtly manipulating them (or letting them think they are hahaha).
So I don’t know how that fits into what you’re saying, but I see women ‘directing’ men like this all the time and it doesn’t look like a negative to me. But yes, i’m talking about something totally different than men failing a shit test and being bossed around.Oct 30, 2018 1:09amMegan K. UsuiShit tests run a spectrum. “Directing” as you put it as a subtle form of it.Oct 30, 2018 1:12amRichard Nikoley@[100014934584772:2048:Megan K. Usui] “Al Freeman clean up – aisle 4!”
LOL. You SO want to have someone clean up my shit, don’t you.
I do no know Al and have zero idea why you summon him to “clean up.”
We’re dudes, perceptive I gather about him. Perhaps we can have a discussion about how females are generally just worthless in electronic banter, even when Red Pill.
There’s a topic for discussion.
Can a female every really surrender? Even when Red pilling it out on the Internet making men yawn?Oct 30, 2018 1:15amScott Claremont@[100014934584772:2048:Megan K. Usui] “INTO ME SEE” I thought that was from Austin powers?
By intimacy I mean closeness with another. I guess it’s a projection or a human need …Oct 30, 2018 1:15amMegan K. UsuiWomen like men who are deemed men by other men.Oct 30, 2018 1:17amRob McMullanMegan K. Tsui Sure, but i’m also thinking that this kind of subtle directing as I put it, is how women often have power. And I think that many women will have no interest in a relationship that they have no power in either.Oct 30, 2018 1:17amRichard NikoleyMegan female blather:
“Rob McMullan if a woman perceives her sexual market value to be higher than her mates, nagging ensues. If a woman has to start engaging in “directing” it means she’s shopping elsewhere. Most women settle for less than their perceived SMV because we all think we’re great where it counts and are largely clueless about our actual defects and wonder how on earth men could leave them and resort to men are assholes theory.”
Such a mix of BS in practical terms.
Grandmothers and my mother knew and knows how to tame and guide males, and raise kids, and put on fabulous family gatherings on special occasions.
Megan is preaching feminism from a non-familial perspective and my argument is that the female creates and nurtures the family, it’s fucking hard, and this is a major face palm for her.Oct 30, 2018 1:23amRichard Nikoley@[666271573:2048:Rob McMullan] Megan brought in “directing” as a lie. I used the word guide.
So, go forth on her lie if you like, but it’s all non-sequitur cuntiness to me.
And an abject lie.Oct 30, 2018 1:25amMegan K. Usui–“The true value in female smarts is in guiding and training and directing the male combination of smarts, brawn, hubris, and essential blood lust.”–Oct 30, 2018 1:35amRichard Nikoley@[666271573:2048:Rob McMullan] I read you’re full comment after getting inpatient with Megan’s female insolence and rallying.
I agree in full and it’s not to blow smoke up your ass, but for keeping your wits about you and checking her gently.
That’s good.
Indeed. It’s a priori that female guidance is part of all of everything.
I’m 57 years old and I don’t only talk to my dad. That’s a bit mundane. My 77 year old mom (she sees everything), asks me pressing questions I did not ask of myself. That makes me look.
Megan was so intent on handing me a dis publicly, calling in others to clean up, this is how it went.
Females cannot help themselves.
Dudes get along, cause violence is costly. Bicker is free.Oct 30, 2018 1:42amRichard Nikoley“Shit tests run a spectrum. “Directing” as you put it as a subtle form of it.”
Shut up, Megan and go from this convo.
You lied, about me. You have no standing here, now.
Come back to fight another day and do better.
I will not let you get away with it and pretend it didn’t happen.
Go away, now.Oct 30, 2018 1:45amRichard Nikoley“–“The true value in female smarts is in guiding and training and directing the male combination of smarts, brawn, hubris, and essential blood lust.”–
Ah, the female shit test.
The thing you need to understand about it, is that the last the female wishes to do is ask a question (the post was not a challenge to her), clarify, come to terms, or anything.
She wants to use the “ethics” of feminism to fuck with you, knowing full well that without the protection of the surrogate grandfather, father, and husband of socialism, she’s pretty safe if you’re smart.
Of course, this isn’t IRL, but intelligent chicks like Megan amuse themselves similarly online.
They know there is no natural danger, a synthesis born of the feminization of society. But she’ll take it.
Worse, it’s dishonest. I fucking hate dishonestly. I hope to explore this with Curt on Wednesday. From my perspective, I see a lot of “truth telling” dishonesty. I have understood the distinction since 1991. I want to explore that with Curt.
Megan, you very fucking well knew and know that I don’t advocate females directing males around.
But, you went all cunty about it, and then called in forces to clean up.
I’m not one of your boys. Hope none of them are, either.
When in the fuck are you going to lean to never, ever fuck with me in public?
Have you not all the dispensation you need, privately?Oct 30, 2018 2:01amDaniel Roland Anderson@[100028162609592:2048:Alex Birch]
Check this thread out bud. Some really good stuff here.Oct 30, 2018 3:29amAlex BirchThanks. I’ll save it and look at it tomorrow. Remind me if I don’t comment.Oct 30, 2018 3:47amRichard Nikoley@[100028162609592:2048:Alex Birch] “Thanks. I’ll save it and look at it tomorrow. Remind me if I don’t comment.”
Zero people on all of planet Earth are holding breath.Oct 30, 2018 7:14amRichard NikoleyMegan, what is the nature of Alex Birch’s comment? I see nothing in the thread. If I click on his profile, I see a boy smoking a pipe. Cool enough.
I did the same when in my 20s.
My guess is you called him privately to come “clean up.”
Am I right?
Bring him on, pipe and all.Oct 30, 2018 7:22amDaniel Roland Anderson@[100028162609592:2048:Alex Birch]
Will do. Excellent, actionable stuff. And the comments to @[100014934584772:2048:Megan]’s comment are useful as well. Great discussion.
To focus on developing strengths, not focusing too much on weaknesses can hardly be bad advice, eh?Oct 30, 2018 10:24amAl Freeman”Dudes get along, because violence is costly”
Indeed
Megan is an interesting soul, but she has a grand tendency to overthink and overcomplicate things when it comes to relations between men and women.
As the definition of direct includes “to guide”, you may be pushing the bickering button yourself.
Women should guide, or direct, somewhat on a familial level, just not in the ways in which we are used to. Historically familial women have often been a positive catalyst by shaming their husbands and sons into action via indirect means. A woman could not hold power in her own right, but she indirectly carried the power of her father or husband, so she used her means to increase their power.
I’m not sure why I was called into this dysfunctional mess.
Nice to meet you Richard, send me a message if you want to chat.Oct 30, 2018 12:49pmAGAIN, ALL STEREOTYPES ARE TRUE
We assume what we intuit from our childhood is natural rather than taught. What moves us is well understood. The question is why some of us are taught it via nonsense and some of us not. 😉
photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/44882467_10156736908502264_7770001755823144960_n_10156736908487264.jpg ON OPTIMUM PERSONALITY
(from Marginal Revolution)
https://t.co/eh4rRr2Jkp
Toward a theory of optimal personality?
If you are too conscientious, you might experience undue stress during a negative performance review. Or being too agreeable is correlated with lower salary levels, especially for men. And surely too much extroversion and too much openness are possible too?
Rolf Degen reproduces a few relevant paragraphs from a new paper. The work is by Nathan T. Carter, Joshua D. Miller, and Thomas A. Widiger, here is one excerpt from their abstract:
…researchers have only recently begun to uncover evidence that extreme standing on “normal” or “desirable” personality traits might be maladaptive…many more people possess optimal personality-trait levels than previously thought…
—CURT—
What I like about this is evolution from (a) Freudian (clown world), (b) jungian( better and close to literary evidence), (c) big 5 better but therapeutic so seeking IDEAL rather than optimum NETWORK (Division of Labor) traits which results in different distributions of traits.
Rolf, DIdn’t you recently promote that paper on clustering in the big 5? That was premature but closer to my understanding of the division of perceptual, cognitive, negotiative, labor.ON OPTIMUM PERSONALITY
(from Marginal Revolution)
https://t.co/eh4rRr2Jkp
Toward a theory of optimal personality?
If you are too conscientious, you might experience undue stress during a negative performance review. Or being too agreeable is correlated with lower salary levels, especially for men. And surely too much extroversion and too much openness are possible too?
Rolf Degen reproduces a few relevant paragraphs from a new paper. The work is by Nathan T. Carter, Joshua D. Miller, and Thomas A. Widiger, here is one excerpt from their abstract:
…researchers have only recently begun to uncover evidence that extreme standing on “normal” or “desirable” personality traits might be maladaptive…many more people possess optimal personality-trait levels than previously thought…
—CURT—
What I like about this is evolution from (a) Freudian (clown world), (b) jungian( better and close to literary evidence), (c) big 5 better but therapeutic so seeking IDEAL rather than optimum NETWORK (Division of Labor) traits which results in different distributions of traits.
Rolf, DIdn’t you recently promote that paper on clustering in the big 5? That was premature but closer to my understanding of the division of perceptual, cognitive, negotiative, labor.
