Category: Commentary, Critique, and Response

  • IT TAKES TWO YEARS by John Mark —“It’s laughable that somebody thinks they can

    IT TAKES TWO YEARS

    by John Mark

    —“It’s laughable that somebody thinks they can just roll up, watch my vid & maybe read a few posts on the website, watch an interview or 2 with Curt, and then dive into a critique. This is why most of these “critiques” make elementary errors & strawman/misrepresent. They don’t really understand what they’re critiquing. … Heck, I followed Curt for close to 2yrs, reading daily, before opening my mouth. And I’m still hyper-aware of trying to make sure I don’t say something incorrect & still learn new things & angles of understanding frequently.

    …. When they’re getting property-in-toto wrong you know they haven’t spent much time.”—


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-21 15:13:00 UTC

  • POSTED ON HOWE’S SITE Judge for yourself whether Howe is (a)Stupid, (b)Ignorant

    POSTED ON HOWE’S SITE

    Judge for yourself whether Howe is (a)Stupid, (b)Ignorant and Lazy, (c) Intellectually Dishonest, or (d) All of The Above.

    Compare his definitions of propertarianism, of property, of operationalism, of the means of decidability (testimonialism) and claims made, with posts that are three or more years old.

    https://www.facebook.com/curt.doolittle/posts/10157002703142264

    Even worse, his confusion of justificationism (norm, philosophy, religion), with falsificationism (math, science, law) and that P constitutes an instance of law (decidability in matters of conflict) not justification (suggested or consensual behavior) or that he cannot seem to comprehend the difference between theory (search for opportunities) and recipes-actions (operational transformations) – say the theory of smelting vs the means of smelting different metals under different conditions. Or that the purpose of P is force the speaker to demonstrate he has the knowledge that he makes a truth claim in matters of conflict. Or that the Operationalist/Operational/intuitionistic/Praxeological movement resulted in current scientific prose. Or that Eprime is only used to formally criticize operational speech not ‘speak in it’ – in the same way formal logic is only used to formally criticize set statements. I mean… Howe’s criticism is one stupid ignorant lazy arrogant presumptuous statement after another.

    Ask yourself if it was even vaguely possible to make the above podcast if you had even taken a cursory read of the material, and even a trivial understanding of it. Especially given that we tend to make definitions in series and he doesn’t use a single one. I mean, would you misrepresent the definition of P if it’s on the home page of the site? Would you misrepresent the definition of property and it’s means of construction? Would you misrepresent the operational and ePrime movements by criticism of the personalities of the time, or whether they performed as claimed? I mean, would you? Does the OED contain false definitions because they were written by a man, insane, and in an asylum?

    Then ask yourself that given that little understanding, that much straw manning, the claim that it’s not personal compared to the gossiping he does at the end whether. And you’ve called my wife, who I met on my second day in Ukraine, a whore and me a sex tourist. And this is because the last time you came after me I did a pretty thorough destruction of apriorism – not that I had to since it’s pretty common knowledge among the educated (even someone like Rand) that this kantian nonsense was just an attempt at secular preservation of authority of the church and state.

    Yes we are getting popular. In our popularity we are leaving behind people with malinvestments in failed intellectual, economic, and political movements. We might fail in our mission. That said WASTING MY TIME and POLLUTING THE INFORMATIONAL COMMONS with stupid, ignorant, intellectually dishonest pretense does nothing to advance anything except a polluted commons, and to prohibit good people with good intentions, seeking a POSSIBLE solution to the problem of leftist usurpation of propaganda from paying the rather high cost of investing in learning how to do so.

    Which is precisely what P is designed to do.

    Dishonest, lazy ignorant, stupid, self interested shills. The world needs fewer of you. You’re just as cancerous to our people as the leftists.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-21 13:45:00 UTC

  • REGARDING HOWE’S “DEBUNKING OF P” IN PLAIN SIGHT OVERVIEW SIMPLE VERSION FOR LIB

    REGARDING HOWE’S “DEBUNKING OF P”

    IN PLAIN SIGHT

    OVERVIEW

    https://propertarianism.com/basic-concepts/

    SIMPLE VERSION FOR LIBERTARIANS

    https://propertarianism.com/2018/10/28/propertarianism-for-for-libertarians/

    SHORTCUTS

    –Testimonialism (2015)–

    https://propertarianism.com/2015/06/28/a-short-course-on-propertarianisms-testimonial-truth/

    –Due Diligence (2015)–

    https://propertarianism.com/2015/06/04/due-diligence-necessary-for-the-warranty-of-truthfulness/

    –Propertarianism (2015)– https://propertarianism.com/2015/07/27/a-short-course-in-propertarian-morality-2/

    –Propertarian Reasoning (2015) —

    https://propertarianism.com/2015/09/26/a-short-course-in-propertarian-reasoning/

    –Operationalism–

    Operationalism in historical context.

    http://propertarianism.com/2018/05/01/economic-intuitionism-or-scientific-praxeology/

    –Natural Law–

    https://propertarianism.com/2017/03/29/a-short-course-in-natural-law/

    HERE IS WHAT IT APPEARS HOWE DID

    Asked a bunch of people to tell them verbal nonsense, or watched john mark’s videos, and didn’t actually do any research on the ~7000 posts i’ve written.

    Petty stupid nonsense. Made a hit piece in ignorance. I mean, is he stupid? Lazy and Ignorant? Fearful and Dishonest? All of the above?

    PROPERTARIANISM IS AN IQ TEST.

    If you can’t do it…. then you can’t do it.

    I mean. P is articulated well enough in the Overview for someone with education in economics and the philosophy of science to understand.

    —SO—

    Do I really answer this absurd ignorant straw man of Howe’s? Really, this guy doesn’t look up a definition of anything, he just makes shit up? Or goes by what someone tells him? I mean, I mean how much straw for this much straw manning.

    So far wrong on operationalism, wrong on ePrime, wrong on property, I mean this is… laughable…. I mean. It’s intellectually embarrassing.

    How can you invest this much time without just going thru the overview.

    Ok. So. This guy….


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-21 12:21:00 UTC

  • IT’S MOSTLY CHRISTIAN TROLLS THIS TIME —“We’re getting a lot more trolls latel

    IT’S MOSTLY CHRISTIAN TROLLS THIS TIME

    —“We’re getting a lot more trolls lately”–

    It’s just (a) the christians (b) those falling behind the window, (c) because we are getting a lot of attention, (d) because john mark is talking about the solution rather than the methodology.

    Devout Libertarians > Ancaps > Christians – they’re the margins which is why they’re here. Note that we get the opposite reaction from police, military, families, laboring, working, lower middle, and middle class who are being screwed by the current condition.

    Our market is those with personal agency but political subjugation. The online community is rife with people of little personal agency. Or as bill says “skin in the game”.

    (PS: I thought trolls were a heathen thing? But we built a lot of bridges in the past century, so we made troll condos everywhere I guess, and there was massive immigration. )


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-21 11:37:00 UTC

  • Josh Jeppson negotiated ‘play nice’. Ergo I will play nice. Thank him not me for

    Josh Jeppson negotiated ‘play nice’. Ergo I will play nice. Thank him not me for keeping the peace.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-21 11:15:00 UTC

  • We are big boys, and sometimes big boys play big boy games. I think we have agre

    We are big boys, and sometimes big boys play big boy games. I think we have agreed to cool down. 😉


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-21 05:45:52 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1098458763776978944

    Reply addressees: @Macron96Cheese @DataDistribute @lordhumongous3

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1098453709221027841


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  • Not over criticism of P. Not at all. Crit of P is a good thing. Crossing the lin

    Not over criticism of P. Not at all. Crit of P is a good thing. Crossing the line is not.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-21 03:45:30 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1098428471339114497

    Reply addressees: @cheapseatsecon @DataDistribute

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1098425290370543616


    IN REPLY TO:

    @lontusracref

    .@curtdoolittle attempting to sue @DataDistribute over criticism of propertarianism.

    I think we’ve found the antisocial anti-justice warriors we’ve been looking for. https://t.co/pcnIdvOcwj

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1098425290370543616

  • It’s my job. so sure. set something up

    It’s my job. so sure. set something up.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-21 03:26:39 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1098423730332712963

    Reply addressees: @WokeRedpill

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1098423176772628481


    IN REPLY TO:

    @WokeRedpill

    @curtdoolittle Would love to correspond more via email/DM if you’re open. This is a game-changing idea if applied right that even the Left has to acknowledge: they’d want to securitize the environment, anti-bigotry, diversity etc—a tangible market will suss the true “worth” of their values.

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  • Then don’t. Someone else will

    Then don’t. Someone else will.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-21 02:47:22 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1098413842508513280

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  • (Hence why I said it was a hard problem.)

    (Hence why I said it was a hard problem.)


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-21 00:09:38 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1098374147216936961

    Reply addressees: @SomeAccountMan @HHBenedictXVII

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