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( In interviews, it takes me a while to understand the other person’s ‘frame’, so that I can match it without losing them. So when an interview or conversation starts, in the background, I’m trying to create a ‘plan’ of how to educate the other person. As I build up a bit of understanding, and build out that plan, I can intuit their frame and I can stop working so hard to self monitor my speech. So that’s when the conversation ‘gets going’. I mean, I have to create a chain of reasoning rather than oversimplify the ideas, since that’s a substantial part of the difference in my work. So I feel like I’m working pretty hard in these interviews because if I don’t then I almost always lose the interviewer and the audience. (And then Megan disciplines me for a few weeks…) I’m quite a bit different in person, or on stage because those problems are less challenging in those venues. )